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Six Minutes English from BBC Learning English.
Hello. Welcome to 6 Minute English.
I'm Rob. And I'm Neil.
Now, Neil, can you remember the first time you ever used the World Wide Web, or as we often call it, the internet, and what you used it for?
Oh, that's a good question.
I do remember. And, well, nothing really changes, does it?
Because I looked up pictures of cats!
Cats, very useful. Anyway, do you think the internet has generally been positive or negative for the world?
Wow, now that is a big question.
A huge question, I don't know if I can answer that.
Well one person who perhaps can answer it is the man who invented it – British computer scientist Tim Berners -Lee.
We'll find out what he thinks has become of his child shortly.
But before that, a question for you all.
When did Berners -Lee first suggest the idea for what would become the World Wide Web?
Was it a.) 1985, b.) 1989 or c.) 1991?
Tricky, but I think it's earlier than people think so I'm going to go for 1985.
Well, that was a long time ago but we'll reveal the answer a little later in the programme.
I think it's true to say that the internet has been one of, if not the most important, technological developments perhaps of all time, would you agree, Neil?
Well, it's hard to imagine living without it.
Not impossible but not nearly as convenient.
These days, we take the internet for granted.
We share our lives on social media and not just with friends and family.
And that isn't always a positive thing according to the father of the internet, Tim Berners -Lee.
In a recent BBC tech tent programme, he talked about his concerns with the internet and particularly the companies that control its information.
Companies which he calls Internet giants.
What does he say he thought these companies had to do?
Initially I felt the main thing that an Internet giant had to do was to just to be neutral, just be a platform and humanity, once connected by technology, will do wonderful things.
And clearly it doesn't work like that.
If you connect humanity via Wikipedia, then they do produce in general, wonderful things.
If you connect people by a social network where they have anonymity, then it can bring out the very nastiest of people.
So what did he say he thought these internet giants had to do?
He said that he thought initially that they just had to be neutral.
Initially means at first, in the beginning.
And it also suggests that later he changed his mind.
Anyway, he said that he thought they just had to be neutral.
Neutral here means that they didn't need to do anything.
They didn't need to control the internet or information.
He thought it would be a tool to connect people and ideas and information and it would be wonderful.
But it's not all good, is it?
No. He does say that giving people access to sources of information is generally a good thing, but that when it comes to social networks, social media, people have anonymity.
Anonymity? Yes. It means that on the internet people can hide their true identity or personality.
Some people write things that they would never say to someone in person because they think there will be no consequences.
Berners -Lee says anonymity can bring out the nastiest side of people.
People saying horrible and terrible things to each other.
Berners -Lee does have some suggestions for how this could be changed, and it's based on the idea of likes and shares, which he calls kudos.
What's his suggestion?
The different social networks of different platforms are in different situations.
In some cases, they have acknowledged that there's an issue.
I think they realised that the issue could perhaps be hugely ameliorated by tweaking the way the thing works.
By changing the way re -tweets are propagated or changing the way people get kudos.
Give them more kudos for being constructive for example.
So how does he think companies could address the problem?
Well, he says that some of the social networks have agreed that there is a problem, and they know what could improve it.
He didn't use the word improve though, did he?
No, he actually used the rather formal verb ameliorate – which means to improve or make something better.
So how does he suggest the problem could be ameliorated?
By tweaking the way in which people give or receive kudos.
Tweaking means making a small change to the way something works.
Much of what happens on the internet is driven by desire to get likes and shares.
This is the kudos that Berners -Lee talks about.
He feels that tweaking this could lead to a better experience.
For example, getting more kudos for constructive or positive actions.
Hmm, interesting. But I wonder who would decide if something is constructive?
Well, that's another big question for another day I guess?
For now though, let's have the answer to our small question.
In what year did Berners -Lee present the idea for what would become the World Wide Web?
The options were a.
1985, b. 1989 or c.
1991? It was in fact 1989.
Now, before we go, let's have a quick recap of today's vocabulary.
initially means at first, in the beginning.
And then we had neutral.
In this case, it meant not controlling or not taking any action to control.
Then there was the noun anonymity, which the state of having a hidden identity or personality.
Next to ameliorate a situation is to make it better.
To tweak something is to make a small change to the way something works.
Then we have, of course, kudos.
Kudos is praise and appreciation for something you've done.
Well, kudos to you, Rob, for today's programme.
Thank you very much. Well, thank you, Neil.
And thank you everyone for listening.
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