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I'm so grateful to have conversations with friends, thought leaders, experts, athletes, musicians.
People from all walks of life and backgrounds who come here to share their stories, share their experiences and share their insights so that all of us can grow together.
Today, I get to invite one of my friends and someone who's really special to her too, so we have two amazing guests, two friends, two people that I've got to know over the last couple of years.
And today's conversation is going to be one that I hope you listen to with your friends, with your family, with your sisters, with your cousins, with your brothers.
I want this to be an episode that you consume with someone else so that you can discuss it just like we will.
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And you can share in the experience with someone else.
Today I'd like to introduce my two guests.
One of them is someone we've had on the show before.
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You love the episode. Her name is Alexis Ren, one of the most influential personalities on social media with over 18 million followers on Instagram alone.
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Please welcome to the show Alexis and Ali.
Thank you so much for being here.
Oh my God. I could just listen to you talk all day.
Oh my goodness. We were remembering when you were here a couple of years ago, we had a sacred Kyrotan ceremony at the home, and both of you joined, which are so beautiful.
And I'm so excited to have you back on the show Alexis.
Ali, I'm so excited to have you on the show for the first time.
And I want to start by just getting to understand how YouTube became friends and how you met.
I think it's always beautiful for our audience to hear how two powerhouse humans have come together to create beautiful things in the world.
You also have your podcast releasing this summer, I believe, and it's called EasyA.
EasyA. I love that title.
I love the movie. It's an easy A coming out this summer as well, and you're launching that together.
But I'd love to hear the origin story of how this relationship became to be.
So I'll leave it to you to figure out how you tell that story.
It was a super-secretistic one.
We met when we were what, 12, 13, 11, 11.
She remembers that. I just had jokes here and there.
We became very, very close, very quickly.
I think one of the reasons that we always stayed friends was we never held each other to a certain type of relationship.
We were very fluid with our friendship.
But it didn't really cement until my mom got sick.
When that started to happen to my family, her mom stepped in, her whole family stepped in, and then when my mom passed, they actually adopted me and I actually moved in with them.
Her mom taught me about taxes and business and got me into all sorts of book, Mary and Williamson, kind of set me on my path and reminded me of who I was.
Then after that, we just knew that this was going to be a lifelong relationship and a very unique one at that because we're actually kind of puller up.
We couldn't be more different.
I think because of that, we blend really nicely with each other and we always knew there was going to be some kind of path, divine path for us, but we didn't know what and how and for a while, we just kind of let each other go off and do different things.
I went more of the traditional Hollywood route and then she went and started traveling and we always have this funny joke like I'll take care of our outsides and she takes care of our insides and like that's how we got to do this.
And then things started manifesting for us to actually start working together when Warriors was founded in 2020.
It morphed into so many different things but then at one point I was like it would make so much sense to bring Ali on here because she's literally, she's my other heart, she's my other brain.
I trust her opinion as much as I trust my own.
And so bringing her onto We Are Warriors just felt right and then through that she's really helped me just harness and strengthen what that community does for the girls and for just everyone in it and so far we've already tackled like almost 10,000 girls in and out of that community and it's pretty insane because now we've we've actually become the big sister mentors
and yeah essentially become the girls that we needed when we were flailing around being like what is our purpose?
The weight of the world on our shoulders we need to save the earth.
And now we're just kind of coming back around to that joyful playfulness and seeing where it takes us and then Warriors kind of got us ready for the podcast and that was really nice because it's gated.
We had this opportunity to just learn how to speak to a crowd and learn how to host essentially because it is a talent and you're one of the best.
I will say my goodness gracious like no one tops you.
And so through that we got really comfortable with being able to balance each other out in that way and then it just made sense.
And of course selfishly there's so many people me and Ali want to talk to.
You've always just been so curious about different people of all landscapes.
I'm sure that's one of the reasons you also got to do it because it's just so cool.
You have an excuse to just speak to anyone that you've ever wanted to and and so now we actually have that excuse to do that.
Yeah, I mean, I think Warriors is really a love letter to her mom because she was always into the holistic health stuff of you know acupuncture and meditation and so she really introduced me to all of that.
So just feels like she almost brought us together for Warriors.
But to your point, I think the beautiful thing is we've never held each other hostage to a specific version or you know judge each other for choices or tried to change one another.
And so for me, it's been my greatest example of a healthy love.
Exactly. We really taught each other how to communicate in the hardest way as possible.
You know, well that's that's actually when I was thinking about when I was preparing for this interview, that was actually what was on my heart that I wanted to understand how you do that and even hearing you both describe it as we've allowed this relationship to be fluid and it's taken on many forms.
I think when you're young, especially we have this idea of this is my best friend and this is my next best friend and this person's right.
We live in this kind of very binary world when we're kids and so we do put people in boxes and we do label people and then sometimes those labels last as we get older and sometimes they fade away and sometimes we still act like kids even when we're older with how we see our relationships.
How did you both develop that ability to allow each other to be who you were separately?
Like you just said Alexis, you were like, I went down the Hollywood route.
You know, Ali, you went traveling.
You went, seems like down the healing route quite as a priority externally as well, even though Alexis was doing that internally, but her external career was different.
How did you allow each other to be who you were independently, but still respect each other and connect?
Because I think that seems to be a big need in our world today, whether it's friendships, whether it's romantic relationships, whether it's business and professional relationships.
I think we live at a time when it's so easy to judge each other.
How did you develop that over time?
Was it always like that or was there a time when you were like, oh, you know, she sold out or she's like, did you have those assumptions about each other?
I mean, we butt heads, of course, because we're opposites, but our North stars are the same.
And I think that's what sees us through is there's something so much bigger than us.
And, you know, especially because we made it through the loss of her mom together.
It didn't really matter if we were fighting because I'm going to talk to you next week.
We're family. And so, you know, I think when you have such a clear devotion to someone, it doesn't really matter what shape it takes.
It reminds me of that one poem where you talk about the marriage and how the guy was like, I've been married for X many years.
And someone was like, I'll let you, I'm butchering it, but gone.
So I watched this interview of these couples who had been together for 60 plus years.
And there was one that had been together for 67.
And the interviewer looks at the husband and says, how have you been with the same woman for so long?
And he says, she hasn't been the same woman at all.
Yeah, there's so much evolution and so much growth.
But I guess that's what it is, right?
I feel like as humans, we have a resistance to other people growing just as we have a limitation on who we can be.
And we almost extend that limitation to others as well.
When you saw each other grow in different ways, maybe in congruent ways, random ways, what allowed you to have difficult but healthy conversations around that?
And I'm speaking from my personal experience, even I've only been with Rady for 11 years.
Only. And nobody in the sense compared to 67.
Yeah. Yeah. We've been together for 11 years and I agree with that statement completely.
Like Rady has transformed in so many ways in the last 11 years since I met her.
I fully agree with that.
But that evolution requires two people to sign up to that and subscribe to that.
So what were those moments where you saw each other going through these big or small changes and how did you adapt with each other?
We would definitely trigger each other.
But then we had enough wisdom where we knew when there was a trigger, there was a path we had to take in order to get through that ego and then into the growth part.
So and we also, we truly do love watching each other grow.
It gives us a lot of joy. And we've also never held each other back.
If I disagree with her, for instance, I will state that truth immediately.
I disagree with you, but I absolutely respect your decision.
