As President of Fordham University, Tanya Tetlo oversees roughly 17,000 students and 750 faculty.
The biggest majors are in finance, psychology and government, Fordham also has several prestigious graduate programs, in business and law, education and social work, and even some theology still.
The school is split between two main campuses, both in New York City, one in the Rose Hill section of the Bronx, the other at Lincoln Center in Manhattan.
Those two campuses are about nine miles apart.
If you walked from one Fordham campus to the other, you would pass right through Columbia University.
This past spring, as pro-Palestinian demonstrators set up encampments at many schools, Columbia had some of the most intense protests which led to more than a hundred arrests.
So what was happening at Fordham?
I asked Tetlo to describe it.
We have students who are from Palestine who are very worried about parents and grandparents they can't get in touch with.
They're going through all the stages of grief and trauma and they've been extraordinary and I've also felt, you know, if yelling at me will make you feel better for even half a minute, go for it, it is my honor because they are feeling so powerless.
We also have members of our community who are Jewish and Israeli and who lost family members on October 7th.
And so it made me realize how close New York is to the Middle East and of how profound that pain is for part of our community.
And so what was really impressive this year is student activists did prayer vigils and they did teachings and they talked and they listened and they engaged with complexity and they really tried to do the work of expressing outrage at that which they are outraged by but without just yelling at the nearest authority figure or trying to disrupt the right of their
fellow students to learn.
That got ratcheted up when the clearing out of Hamilton Hall at Columbia happened.
By the police we should say.
By the police. Yeah. And the next morning students who told us later were really upset by that came and started a little encampment in a classroom building in our Manhattan campus.
We persuaded most of them to leave but we did end up having the police arrest on minor misdemeanors about 15 mostly students.
So that was painful because, you know, how do you navigate the rights of our 17,000 students to learn on the Cospa finals with the rights of those dozens students to express themselves into protest and it was really hard.
And what happened then did it deescalate after those arrests?
Yes. I've read that when you were a kid your father who was a psychologist and professor and also counseled prisoners that he had a sign on his desk that said question authority but politely and with respect.
How do you feel that slogan relates to, let's say, the campus politics around this particular issue at Fordham was authority questioned politely with respect and fruitfully or not really?
I think for the most part it was we met with student activists and they have been profound in the past.