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I gottasay, if you've been sitting around for twoweeks, wondering what the other 7 wonders of the ancient worldare?
Well, that is some seriouspatience, myfriends.
So here itis, part2, continuing from two weeksago, all the 7 wonders of the ancientworld.
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Part2.Great. Did you ever see hot shots part2, thesequel?
No, youknow, I didn't see a lot of those movies at all except for the airplane movies and the naked gunmovies.
The hot shots movies were worthseeing.
Did not seethose, did not see any scarymovies.
Oh, the scary movies you haven't seenthose?
Nope. All of them aregood.
Like every single one of those aregood.
Really?Yeah. I was crushed yesterday for the movie Screamthough.
Oh, yeah withwho? NateBargazzi.
Uh-huh.Comedian?Sure.
So it was interesting that I had to do screen research and like that moviechanged.
Like horror movies were on their lastlegs.
Yes, theywere. Not to say that something else might not have comealong, but it was Scream that revitalized agenre.
Yeah, that was prettycool.
Yeah, it was kind of a watershedmovie.
Did we talk about that in the horror movies that changed the genreepisode?
I'm pretty sure we hadto.
Boy, if wedidn't, we missedout.
Well, if wedidn't, we probably justsaid, and obviouslyScream.
We don't even need to mentionthat.
Well, it launched the Screamfranchise.
It launched the scary movie franchise in away.
Mm-hmm.Oh,yeah. And relaunched thegenre.
Yeah, so scary movies were seeing hot shots as we'reseeing.
Naked guns wereseen. Ofcourse.
Although I would put either one of the hot shots up against the third naked gun any day of theweek.
That's mybookie. Over the third nakedgun?
Yeah.Okay. That'sfair.
Yeah. And then don't get me startedon, what was it like the God'sson?
What? The God'sson? I don't know what thatis.
It was like a Godfather spoof that was Leslie Nielsen was in with Dom DelLuis.
I haven't evenseen. Holycow.
Five minutes ofit. I don't even know what thatis.
You stumpedme.Oh,good.
Thankyou.Well, it's a good start to thisepisode, don't youthink?
You'rewelcome. Thankyou.
Sochock.Yes. We're movingon.
We've already talked about the great pyramids atKufu.
We talked about the Hanging Gardens of Babylon and the Temple of Artemis atEphesus,right?
All three ofthem.Top, topnotch.
Yeah. And if you don't know what we're talking aboutnow, and this is your first episode of stuff you should knowever.
This is the second of a two-partepisode.
There yougo. On the sevenancient, seven wonders of the ancientworld.
And here's parttwo.Right.
And we're going to start with the statue of Zeus atOlympia.
Yeah, to say it likethat.
There's no other way to sayit.
That'show,well, who's the guy'sname, the boxingguy?
Thatguy, I don't know hisname.
Yeah. And at the statue of Zeus and say that on an hourlybasis.
Yeah. It's pretty amazingstuff.
So this one is one of myfavorites, but not myfavorite.
I promise it my favorite was inhere, but this is not quiteit.
Okay. Although it's closebecause, youknow, this is the main dealhere.
Olympia,Zeus. This is now run of the mill guide in some cast offcity.
No, it was the site of the firstOlympic.
So it was pretty importantcity.
Veryimportant. It was nowhere near Mount Olympusthough,curiously, but it waspretty, prettyimportant,right?
Yes. This one to me is the most ho-hom of themall.
Oh,yeah.Mm-hmm. Not quite surewhy, but I am just kind of like whatever aboutit.
Allright.Well, thetemple, let's talk about the temple atfirst.
Okay. Andalso, I should warn you that this article has the proportions wildlyincorrect.
Oh,the, how tall itwas.
Yeah. Allright. What is it forreal?
Thisthing, this article says there's 210 feettall.
That's a 20 storybuilding.
Yeah. The temple wasnot, it's tall as a 20 storybuilding.
It was 68 feettall. How did they get it thatwrong?
I don'tknow. I just don'tknow.
It'sstaggering. It's as staggering as this temple would have been had it been 200 feettall.
And it doesn't even say it was somewhere between 68 and 210feet.
Great. It'sweird.Yeah, that'sannoying.
Everything else is right about itthough.
Okay. So it was 68 feettall, still prettyimpressive.
Sure. For thetime.Yeah.
But I would have to say ifsomebody, if you were driving throughDunwoody, you saw a 68 foot talltemple, you would probably still be impressed even though somebody just builtit.
So I think it's still impressive eventoday.
Yes, so the temple's fairlyimpressive, but inside we're talking about the statue mainly the Greekartist,Phidius, wascommissioned.
And I imagine these artists were paid pretty handsomely for thesejobs.
Yeah. Because there's only a few of them who are capable of doing this at thetime.
Yeah, Imean, there are only a few people in the world who could do this now on something of thisscale.
Sure. So theysaid,hey, Zeus is theman.
We want a statue ofZeus.
And hesaid,yeah, I can knock thatout.
It's 450BC. He shouldn't take me toolong.
Eight yearslater, he wasfinished.
Right. And he used some really weirdmaterials.
So the templeitself, it was like a standardtemple, 68 feettall, like all of themwere.
A bunch ofcolumns, that kind ofthing.
But the statue inside is apparently what was the bigdraw.
And one of the reasons why it was something to see was because Phidius used ivory and gold rather thanmarble, which was pretty much what you used to make a statue back at thattime.
And they think one of the reasons why heused, or notEbony, but ivory and goldwas,right.
But the reason why they thought that was because he was building a statue toZeus,right?
So you neededto, it needed to bespecial.
This is like the king of thegods.
Yeah. And ivory was definitely something that people would travel to see a statue made of ivory ofZeus.
Yeah. Sobasically, Zeus is sitting down in this statue and he's sitting just straightup.
He's notlike, you know how the Lincoln and his memorials kind of chilling in hisseat.
Zeus is notchilling. He's sitting up ready foraction.
Okay. He'slike, what'd yousay?
What'd yousay? The statue itself was about 50 feethigh, which is superimpressive.
Like when you see a rendering of what someone looked like standing at the base of thisthing, it's really prettystriking.
And one of the things they said about it was that if he stoodup, his head would have burst through the roof of thetemple, which was probably pretty cool to seetoo.
Yeah. Because if he was sitting down at 50feet,right, totally wouldhave.
He would have just been like Zeussmash.
So he's holding in one hand a statue ofNike.
So it's a statue holding astatue.
And Nike was a wing goddess ofvictory,right?
Yeah. So it was kind of like his version of tinkerbell hanging out in hishand.
Yeah. And then the otherhand, he's holding ascepter, which is pretty appropriate for the king of thegods.
Sure. Andagain, he's seated on thisthrone.
Andyeah, if you look at artists rendering ofthem, we should sayhere, most of this stuff by the time these lists werewritten, were alreadyaged, and then they crumbled overtime.
So we actually don't know exactly what they lookedlike.
Some people saw himfirsthand, but a lot of this information comes from second hand sources or even further down the chain thanthat.
So we're not exactly certain of what they lookedlike.
But for most ofthese, because they were so widely regarded as seven wonders of the ancientworld, you have to see that enough people wrote aboutthem, talked aboutthem, that if you really spent sometime, you could put these sources together and come up with probably an accurate description of what it lookedlike.
Yeah, forsure. And the remarkable thing about this oneis,apparently, was the expression onZeus'face.
Not only is he sitting straight up ready foraction, he just said this look on hisface.
It was kind ofintimidating, I guess you couldsay.
You've disappointed me and yourmother.
And the legend hasit, and I don't buy this atall, but Phidia saidthat, once I'm finished with thisthing, heasked, forZeus' blessing on the sculpture and a bolt of lightning struck the temple at that verymoment.
Right. I don't believeit.
No.No. As a matter offact, if you do believethat, write in so we can tell you that you'rewrong.
So there were a couple of issues with thisstatue.
Numberone, it was built a couple hundredyears, a few hundredyears, before Christianity began and then started to spread in thearea.
Once thathappened, the worshipers ofZeus, who stillremained,said, we need to get this out ofhere.
TheseChristians, they don't playaround.
They're going to get rid of thisthing,right?
And they moved the statue toConstantinople.
Did it stay there safe for awhile,actually, apparently housed in apalace?
But one of the things about the statue was it was made of gold andivory, but those things were overlaid on top of a woodensculpture.
Yeah.Which, it's kind oflike, it's pretty slackPhidia, maybe you should have stuck with themarble.
Maybe. But the palace in Constantinople caughtfire.
Yeah, that's aproblem.
Because marble doesn'tburn,doesn't.
No, itdoesn't.Yeah, so it would havesurvived.
But he cheapedout. Let's behonest.
Yeah. He phoned this onein.
Yeah, and they were right to have moved that thing because the Christians did come in and take care ofbusiness, shut down that temple in 391AD.
By thattime, the statue was gone atleast.
Butyeah, burned in afire.
So earthquakes and fires are taking out all of thewonders.
Earthquakes, fires andChristians.
Yeah. The great levelof...
Prettymuch. So backin, Ithink,1950, thisguy, andagain, like this stuff just sat in the realm of legend for a longtime.
Although I think the ruins of the temple itself are stillaround, aren'tthey?
That I'm notsure. I think they mightbe.
I,like, over the last twodays, I've seen so many pictures of ancient temple ruins that I'mlike, whichway, which one isthat?
Yeah, it's trying totell.
Right? I think this one may still be around inOlympia, the ruins of thetemple.
Like, you can still make out a couple of steps leading up toit, that kind ofthing.
And there's like the posts of a couple pillars orwhatever.
But they found in 1950 the workshop that Phidias used beside thetemple.
Andapparently, we're able to recreate using the molds that they found probably what the statue lookedlike.
It's just pretty impressive just working from oldmolds.
Yeah, not onlythat, but these were oncoins,right?
Oh,yeah, that'sright.
That's the otherone.Yeah, they were on Greekcoins.
So this isn't one where you really had to guess so much what it looked like because on those coins there is a lot of detail about what it lookedlike.
And becausecoins, youknow, they were originated there just where they ended up eventually would give a little indication on how far people hadtraveled, come see this thing when they carried those coinsback.
Yeah, it made me wonder like were those coins currency or were they likesouvenirs?
Like if you go to Dollywood or Kennedy SpaceCenter, something like that and get a coinmade.
Yeah, I didn't think aboutthat.
I wonder because Imean, this was an age where there were tourists and they were already selling the replicas of the temple of Artemis as touristmomentos.
I wonder if these coins were thatthing.
Yeah. You do pretty neat to think about ancienttourists.
Should we take abreak?Yeah.
Allright, I'm going to contemplate that and we'll be back right afterthis.
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Okay,Chuck, here's my secondfavorite.
What'shere? This is in yourfavorite,huh?
Are you sure you have afavorite?
Ido, we're not thereyet.
Okay, allright.Well, this is my secondfavorite.
The mausoleum atHalikarnasus.
Okay. Do you don't like thisone?
Yeah, it was allright.Mausoleums.
I don'tknow, you see one you see themall.
Well, this is the originalone, like the word mausoleum came from thisstructure.
Yeah, that only goes so far withme.
Oh, I lovethat. The originalthing?
Yeah, I thought you were like an etymology kind ofguy.
Oh, it canbe. But just not withmausoleum?
Yeah. I don'tknow, there's something about mausoleums that bugme.
Because there's dead people in turninside?
Yeah. There's just a lot of hub hub for a deadbody.
Oh, Isee. Isee.Yeah, that makessense.
Youknow?Yeah. I don't want to knock itdown.
Okay, we'll just stop right herethen.
If you're kingmausoleum, you deserve to have this named afteryou.
I would saythat. Especially if you're married to your sister and she's madly in love with you and you've justdied.
Yeah, that was a littleweird.
He was the Persian king of Korea and he was indeed married to hissister,Artemisia.
And shereally, really was in love with her brother andhusband.
And hewas, from what Iunderstand, he seemed like a pretty successfulruler.
Yeah. They had the mausoleum under construction while he was stillalive.
And he died before it wasfinished,obviously.
But hissister,Artemisia, sisterwife, Artemisia was so broken up byit.
Shesaid, allright,stop.
Stop what you'redoing.
This is not goodenough.
This has to be the most amazing memorial anyone's ever made to theirhusband.
Andbrother, I've got to get in touch with all of the greatest sculptors of therealm.
And shedid. She got in touch with at least five of the greatest sculptors alive at thetime.
And they were headed by a guy namedPithius, who not only was one of thesculptors, he was the overseeing architect of the entireproject.
Yeah. He protected the whole thing and then she got a one sculptor per side to embellish the outsidescopus,breakfast,re-axis, LeoCharis.
Oh,lay. AndTimothy, that one'seasy.
That one iseasy. And this one has often been called because she had all these different people working onit.
And not onlythat, but I think for yearsafterward, it became a place where artists could exhibit and showcase theirwork.
So in theend, this thing ended upbeing, I think not as coherent as what you would think something might be when you just hire one person to work onit.
For this episode and the lastone, I went to the site onmuseum.
Have you ever heard ofit?
Yeah, I thinkso. They were very helpful in researchingthis.
And one of thethings, the way they put it was that duringconstruction, Artemisia died before it wascompleted.
And the five sculptors who were running the show looked at each other and they werelike, let's keepgoing.
We could stop here and leave itunfinished.
But itbecame...Artichoke, don't dothat,though.
Well,no,no, not trueones.
It became atemple, amonument, not just to Mazalius and Artemisia who were intumidinside, but it became a monument to art aswell.
That was the way we could do whatever we wantnow,guys.
Right. And theydid. So they went ahead and they completedit.
And it was a pretty impressivestructure.
Yeah, the structure itself was about 140 feettall.
Is thatright?Yeah, I believeso.
That's arelief.Yeah. The base was about 100feet, 24 stepstall.
Yeah. And then on either side of thesteps, flanking the steps were crouchedlions.
Yeah. Which is prettycool.
Around the outside of the second tier where you would walk into on all fourcorners, there were soldiers mounted onhorseback, sculptures of them protecting theplace.
Yeah.Yeah. Whatelse? Plenty of the elder said this thing is 440feet, and the perimeter was saying is 440feet.
So it waslarge. 36columns.
It was a bigstructure, veryimpressive.
I didn't get from the pictures that I saw ofrenderings.
It didn't look too busy tome.
No, I'm notsure. The only place I saw that kind of shade being thrown at it was in this house stuff works out tocall.
Yeah. Imean, I know that there were different people working onit, but it didn't looklike.
I expected when I saw it to look like a bigmess.
And it did not look like a bigmess.
No, it looked pretty neat andtidy,right?
Yeah. So one of the things that I love about thisthing, soagain, Artemisia and Mazelius are entombed inside thisthing, but it's also like just a place you wouldgo, youknow, take a date or something on a Sunday afternoon in the city of hellacanisus, hellacan, hellacanasus,right?
One of the cool things about this is that this structure stood for hundreds and hundreds of years after the city of hella canasus fell to ruin aroundit.
Yeah. That is socool. Just the imagining this abandoned ruin town and in the middle of it is this 140-foot tallmazaileum, the world's first mazaileum with all these ornate sculptures aroundit.
It's almost completely out of context with the surroundings now that the town has fallen toruin.
Yeah, that is pretty cool forsure.
But like all these otherones, earthquakes would eventually take care of business in the 1400s and shake this thingdown.
Andagain, like a lot of these other stories in1494, they used the Knights ofSt.
John of Maltasaid,hey, let's take all this scrap and use it for our owncastle.
Yeah. So the city as hella canasus fell to ruin another city nearby grew up called Bodrum and the ruins at hellacanasus.
You would go to Bodrum today to view the ruins of hella canasus to themazaileum, I shouldsay.
But the big draw apparently is the Knights ofSt.
John'scastle. And to build thatcastle, some of the scraps that they used were from themazaileum.
So you can still see original parts of themazaileum, but they've been incorporated into the structure of the castle that you wouldview.
Yeah. Which iscool. So it's still around in someway, shape orform.
Yeah,totally. That's verycool.
But that earthquake that got it in the1400s, it actually had a weird way of preserving some ofit,right?
Oh,yeah. So there are three big things that keep comingup,right?
There is earthquakes that keephappening.
There's people using scraps to build other citiesnearby.
And then there's the BritishMuseum.
Those three things figure into the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World bigtime.
Because if there's a piece of one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World somewhere in the world outside of its originallocation, it's probably in the BritishMuseum.
And that's the case withsome, a few things from the mazaileum at hellacanasus.
They think that what happened was the earthquake toppled the sculpture of mausoleus andArtemisia, riding a chariot pulled by fourhorses.
It was veryfamous. That was on the top of the mazaileum that it fell and was covered by rubble so that it was protected until it was finally excavated in the 19th century when they found a huge old chariotwheel.
And then they think the two sculptures of Artemisia and mazaileus and now they're all in the BritishMuseum.
Right. That earthquake had a weird way of protecting it from being looted and reused by the Knights ofSt.
John lateron.Amazing.
I'm telling you that's why it's my secondfavorite.
Well, we're coming upon myfavorite.
I wondered if this wasit.
The Colossus ofRhodes.
It's a good way to sayit,too.
Yeah, I like thisone. This was ancient Greece and this one was the granddaddy of them allstatuized.
This one was even bigger than the statue of Zeus atOlympia.
Third century and Rhodes was anisland.
Still is anisland. And Macedonians came knocking on the door and they were angry and they wanted the help of the people of Rhodes because tolemy was tolemy one that is was was was conquering and theysaid, we need your helphere.
And the people of Rhodessaid,hey, we don't want to get involved in allthat.
We kind of like it here on the island living our peaceful lifestylehere.
Well, plus if there was anybody they were alliedwith, it wastolemy.
Yeah. But they wanted to stay out of anywars.
They just weren't intoit.
Right. So they rebuffed the Macedonians and theyleft.
But they left behind a bunch of supplies andequipment.
I'm not sure why they did thatactually.
So this article is sobizarre,man.
The Macedonians besieged Rhodes for over a year and they had these huge war machines that were made of like bronze and wood and metal and they would pull these huge machines up to the city walls and like they had catapults on top and they were trying to crush the city for ayear.
And when the the road the roadians finally overcame theMacedonians, they werelike,well, we're just leaving the stuffbehind.
It's too big tomove. It didn't workanyway.
So we'll leaveit.Yeah.
That's why they leftit.
This article puts it in a really weirdway.
Yeah. Iagree.Yeah. So they ended up selling away thatstuff,right?
To make the money to build in part thestatue.
Yeah. And they reused some of it directly for thestatue.
Right. Like that huge thing that they used to besiege the city they pulled up to thewalls.
They actually used that as scaffolding to build the statuewith.
Likeyeah.Yeah. It's making plowshars out of I don'tknow.
Guns. So they used the sculptor charas of lindos and hesaid, I got this one under control and he is all these different materialsiron,bronze,stone.
And this one I'll have wrapped up in about 12years.
Which is that's aboutright.
Yeah. That's not bad for what they didhere.
Yeah. Imean, this thing was 110 feettall.
Yeah. I had a skeleton ofiron.
And inside the skeleton forstructure, it had huge stone columns running throughit.
Yeah. Andyeah, the actual statue itself was about as big as the statue of liberty as today and followed like a pretty similarstructure.
But like a thousand or so yearsbefore, a couple thousand yearsbefore.
Yeah. People think from written accounts that it was holding a torch like Lady Liberty does and that the face was modeled after Alexander theGreat, somesay.
And here's where it gets interesting to me is if you look up pictures of thisthing, you will likely see it standing astraddle, the entrance to theharbor.
So literally standing there like kind of with his leg spread and you would have to sail a ship between his legs to get into theharbor.
You shouldn't lookup.Yeah, don't lookup.
That's notbad. That's notbad.
That'samazing. Very amazing and 110 feethigh.
Youknow, it's going to be staring atit.
So there are accounts and there are plenty of illustrations and other things that support this and itlooks, trustme, if you look itup, it looks verycool.
Like, youknow, they wereinto, they were into making things this tall just because it was so mindblowing.
But also they were thanking their patronGod,Helios, for spitting them from having to go towar, which is prettycool.
This is one of the reasons I like this one is they were sayinglike, you knowwhat, we stayed out ofwar, we managed to remain atpeace.
We're going to build a monument to our God who we assume helps usout.
Yeah, but when they did these things like with most ofthese, I love that they were justlike, youknow, 20 foot high statue would begreat.
That'simpressive.Like, they would try and build things as large as humanly literally possible engineering wise at thetime.
I see yourpoint.Yeah, that's prettyneat.
So when you look at pictures of thisstraddling, the harbor is justlike, it'senormous.
It'shuge.Unfortunately, that's probably not what he how hestood.
Right. That's that's the downer here is that they didn't really have the materials or the knowledge or the skill to do something likethat, like the reason that statues back then were basically straight up and down us because that you needed that those legs to support the rest of thestatue.
Yeah, and they were a top of pedestal that could hold the weight of the statue aboveit.
Yeah. They would also if the if each foot was on either side of theharbor, that's usually not the strongest solid ground you canfind.
No, noway. They wouldn't have had any means of reinforcing the ground beneathit.
So it would have just sunk or fallen rightover.
Yeah. And plus the other thingtoo,Chuck, was that it would have closed the harbor down and they relied on the harbor for theireconomy.
Yeah. So it's probably unlikely that it looked as cool as it looks inpictures.
And what happened to this one 53 yearslater?
Yes.Earthquake.Yep. 53years.
That is soquick.Yeah, they didn't last long atall.
No. I think fell and they think that it probably was located closer to the center oftown.
Yeah. Somewhereinland.
But that when itfell, it crushed a bunch of people's houses andbusinesses.
Yeah. And some of it probably fell into the harboritself.
That'sright. And this one was notable because I think because it was so young when itfell, it'sstill, it's not like they werelike,oh, let's get rid of thisthing.
They let it lay there as a tourist attraction in its prone state formany, manyyears.
And people would come far and wide to go visit the fallenstatue.
Yeah. For almost a thousandyears.
It'scrazy.Yeah. It's still stayed a touristattraction.
Apparently the cool thing to do is to try to put your arms around thethumb.
Yeah. The thumb was bigger than moststatues.
Right. Like people couldn't get theirarms.
They couldn't touch their hands around thethumb.
Amazing. And apparently also the arms fell off prettypretty.
They may have even fallen off first during theearthquake.
Did you say it broke off at about the knees just below theknees?
No. So those probably stayed for awhile.
But the like from the kneedown.
Yeah.Yeah. I'm sure which looks a little weird like that picture of the person who suffered spontaneouscombustion.
All that was left was their oneleg.
I bet it looked kind of likethat.
But the stuff that was on theground, like you could see into like the armholes.
And apparently even that was just as breathtakingcavern.
It was just such a massivestructure.
They'relike, have you seen in thosearmholes?
Yes, Ihave. I've seen all the armholes all over theworld.
I'm the best touristever.
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And so the final nugget on this one that I thought was pretty fun was in653.
These invading Arabs sold like all the rest of these stories sold the scrapmetal.
And they sold it to a Jewish merchant who apparently used 900 camels to take this stuffaway.
Goodlord. So how aboutthat?
So 900 camels or just a few camels who had to make 900 tripstotal.
I don'tknow. It's a 900camels.
This isa, Imean, this is a Jewish merchant buying the scrap metal of the colossus ofroads.
He probably owned 900camels.
Gotcha. Youknow? And think of all the poop that generated aroundthere.
Man, it's a lot of camelpoop.
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AlrightChuck, we're at the lastone.
This one's pretty neattoo.
I don't think we ever said when the Colossus of Rose wasbuilt.
Didwe? Ohgeez, did wenot?
So it would have been in the4th, no the 3rdcentury.
No the 4th century BCE is when it wasbuilt.
294. So this is remember we've been going chronologically through all of these and this is then the youngest of the ancientwonders.
Yeah the little baby of thegroup.
The lighthouse of Alexandria and you know I've got a lighthousething.
Sure. And this one's pretty great when this was notable as one of the wonders of the ancient world because it was the only one that actually had a practical use and it wasn't just some monument ortemple.
Youknow.Right. It served apurpose.
Who wasn't that said nothing useless can ever truly bebeautiful.
It was just a movie line that Iremember.
I think that was JohnKusak.
Okay. It'sit. But nothing useless can ever bebeautiful.
Yeah man I wish I could remember what that's from because I'm sure we're going to get a lot of email aboutit.
But they said in the movie they say somebody said nothing useless can ever truly bebeautiful.
Yeah. I'll buythat. Yeah it's anopinion.
It's a well put opinion which is how it ends up in a movie you know what I'msaying.
Yeah. So this one this one did have utility and it was kind of beautiful too from the artist renderings I'veseen.
I likedit.Yeah. Pretty sweetlighthouse.
So the lighthouse at Alexandria supposedly it's got a pretty cool back story toit.
Allegedly Alexander himself had a dream and in the dream they said Alexander you need to go find the island of pharaohs and he said why they said it doesn't matter just do what we say and he woke up in a cold sweat and he'd like trembling lit a cigarette and he said I got to find pharaohs and that's how itstarted.
Yeah pretty much located off the coast of ancientEgypt.
He said you know what told him me since we're told him he is such a coolname.
I'm going to choose you as one of my generals to go inhabit and settle this place take care of it for me and told him he said I'm all over it but yeah I I you know what pharaohs needs though it needs like an identifier something that you can see from a long way something symbolic something that literally helps you identify it because it's you know tough navigating around the shores and Alexander said well I don't know if it was Alexander and my mind it was he said how about alighthouse.
Well supposedly it was either Tallah me or the Mausine which is the predecessor to the museum which is basically like a brain trust of think tank and the early prototype of the university where the library exact Alexandria was housed either Tallah me came up with it or the Mausine came up withit.
That's right and it's a great idea put a lighthouse because it serves a function and it can be tall and grand and the island will then be known for this right and it most certainlywas.
Well I have to say one of the things that love about these is how some of them are tied together like this is the same Tallah me that the Macedonians were fighting and tried to bring roads into roads had been conquered by King muzzleless and then was later reconquer by Arnamesia like all of these things kind of fit together and when you start to learn about one you learn about the story of the people who built them and how they relate to the stories of people who built other amazing wonders of the ancient world such a cool historylesson.
Have you seen the new Noah Bonbach movie onNetflix?
No. Yes called the Myer withstories?
No I haven't seenit. It's on Netflix it's funny it's AdamSandler.
The guy's not in the movie but Adam Sandler's neighbor he references a lot his name isTolemie.
Yeah. So he just keepssaying, well you know Tolemie says this andthat.
That's out the movie it's prettyfunny.
And a reminder that Adam Sandler should only play theseroles.
Yeah hedefinitely, well that or the original Billy Madison happy Gilmore role who's pretty good at thattoo.
Oh man he's so good in these kinds ofmovies.
I know a punch onclose. I'm going to dothese.
Sogood. And this character is sort of like a grown up version of that punch drunk love character a little bit tome.
Goodmovie. Check itout.
Yeahthanks. So it's Tolemie which is got a silent pee by theway.
Yeah it's a coolname. Which is why it's such a great name it'sPatolomy.
Patolomy. So Patolomy is on theisland.
They get this thing built around 285 BC they beginconstruction.
There's a dude named Sostrite ofNidos.
Sure. And they don't know what part he played other than the fact that it wasimportant.
He could have been thearchitect.
Could have been thefinancier.
Could have beenboth.Yeah, absolutely could have been both but he was he was definitely important to thatproject.
So supposedly this project they actually have a monetary value for how much itcosts.
They said it costs 800 talents which is a word for bars ofsilver.
Yeah. And apparently that's about three million dollarstoday.
Which is not bad for this lighthouse threemillion.
Ohyeah. Not bad atall. You couldn't build half a lighthouse today forthat.
No. No not one likethis.
Sono. Apparently it was about 450 feettall.
And one of the reasons they built this too was not just to put pharaohs on the map or Alexandria on themap.
Alexandria was already like a pretty important city or it was becoming an importantcity, portcity.
But having a lighthouse there just helped navigation which only helped the economyboom.
And actually after the lighthouse came into operation the economy did boom as a result of thatright?
Yeah. And 450 feet is really reallytall.
Yeah they said that you could see this things light from 100 milesaway.
Yeah I saw the ones that said it was more like 30 or40.
Still. But yeah that's a pretty high functioninglighthouse.
The 100 miles away is more believable than the temple of Zeus being struck by bolt of lightning after it wascompleted.
Agreed. So you could see this thing 30 milesaway.
We'll even go with 20 miles awayokay.
I'm not even going abovethat.
And the reason why you could see that is because atop this 450 foot structure there was a polished disc of somesort.
They think it was probablybronze.
And during the day they moved it so it would reflect the light of thesun.
So you could see itthen.
And then at night they had a fire going all thetime.
And there were structures within this amazingly tall structure that were basically what you would call dumb waiters or that type of elevator on police where you could raise and lower to get to bring like firewood or animal dried animal dung up toit.
Yeah and I don't think we said that one of the things that makes this so cool to me is it's not just a big cylindrical lighthouse like most of em yousee.
It is three different levels of three differentshapes.
So you've got your huge rectangularbase.
And you have the second level which is octagonal and then that third iscylindrical.
So it's just really coollooking.
And apparently you could even up to that first level which I mean had to be over 100 feet high initself.
You could bring carts and workwriters and stuff all the way up to that level because they had a bunch of storage upthere.
Right. This is prettycool.
And then dumb waiters to take stuff to the highesthours.
Right and they had like those ramps and like kind of circular or spiral staircases going around it to help to maximize the space that you use to get thingsup.
Yeah. It was very clever structure forsure.
Yeah it's verycool. And there are some cool renderings of this online aswell.
So this thing was a solid piece ofwork.
Apparently it survived a tsunami in 365CE.
Ohwow. But what got itChuck?
Earthquake?Earthquake.
Yep. And1303. And this is after like dozens ofearthquakes.
Yeah. So it was built around 280BCE.
It stood until1300.1300.
Right. It'samazing. And finally some earthquakes took itdown.
And the other thing that happened they reuse some of it as a fort which is still aroundtoday.
But the cool thing about it is in 1994 there was an underwater expedition around pharaohs and they found what they're almost positive are original blocks from the lighthouseitself.
Original blocks and I think statuestoo.
Ohwow. Yeah sculptures I shouldsay.
Yeah I did look at some of the underwaterpictures.
It's prettycool. Oh yeah it's just as cool as it getsman.
Anything that's underwater now that used to be and was meant to be abovewater.
Socool. Socreepy. I was reading this really interesting article about the AndreaDoria, the luxury liner for you really that I think it sunk in the 50s or early60s.
But it's like this incredible rec site that people dive and they call it like the underwaterEverest.
Because if you're an underwater rec diver that's like it doesn't get any better thanthat.
Yeah. But it's also extremelydangerous.
I read this really well written article about I can't remember who wroteit.
But to start reading Andrea Doria articles everybody and you'll find the oneeventually.
Well we'll do a podcast onit.
Okay. Let's doit. And that'sit.
We did the seven wonders of the ancient world finallyhuh?
That's the lastone. That's iteverybody.
That's the bigone. That's a Chevy Chasequote.
Isit? Yeah from Chris's vacation when he reveals thepool.
Ohright. It's so awkward the way he says it isperfect.
That'sit. That's the bigone.
Oh at any rate Chris is coming gone Chuck but this is the last episode that we're going to release thisyear.
So I think we should wish everybody a happy newyear.
Yeah. Happy new yeareverybody.
Thanks for sticking with us this2017.
And we'll see you 2018 on a personalnote.
Happy happy birthday to my sweet wife youme.
And we'll see you guys next yearright?
I sure hopeso. So in the meantime it's time for listenermail.
That's right we're going to finish out this two parter with a single listener mail about bath saltsappropriately.
Because whynot?Yeah. I hate guys I'm not wanting to take hard drugs off him but my friend and I were going to an EDM festival and decided to take what we believed wasMolly.
The drugs are crystalline and we took themorally.
Yuck. The experience did not go asplanned.
The few days later we used a drug testing kit on the remaining crystals and found out dun dundun.
Bathsalts. That'sscary.
I'll takethat. That looks like adrug.
Sure. It'scrystalline.
Yeah.Sure. Unlike any other party drug that might make you feel ready to dance this stuff gave my friend and I this sensation that our feet were stuck to the ground by a magnetic force and lifting them was almostimpossible.
It's made dancing very difficult as all we could do was awkwardly move around with the top half of ourbodies.
Additionally we felt super paranoid that everyone around us was watching us and judging and laughing at our pitiful attempts to dance by the wayanonymous.
No one noticedyou. I can go ahead and tell you that rightnow.
It was impossible to enjoy the music with my mind racing and these unpleasant thoughts in the feeling lasted for the fullday.
After the disappointing day we headed back to the apartment ready to get somerest.
We tackled a next day drug-free butno.
The bass salts would not let ussleep.
Tries we might all nightlong.
We laid there a white awake part of thesong, Turn Down for What by DJ Snake laid over and over in my mind for eight hoursstraight.
The sun's reallybad. Itdoes.
My eyes were closed and it felt as though I was watching a show of squiggly neon colored shapes pulsating in rhythm to the incessant music in mymind.
Somehow we managed to get to the festival the next day but we felt like zombies and we were not even at the cannibalism stageyet.
Not sure what that evenmeans.
Well you know the whole face eating bath saltslegend.
Ohgotcha. She's like we weren't even thereyet.
Yeahyeah. Still wasterrible.
She didn't even get the pleasure of eating someone'sface.
Right. So just from experience I will second with Josh and Chuck said inurge.
Steerclear. That is fromanonymous.
Thanks a lot anonymous appreciatethat.
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