This is the Business English Podcast, Episode 47.
How to be upfront about your skills at work in English.
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Oh, good. How was that? Oh, I was sick as a dog.
So you're sick as a dog. Yeah. Oh, it was fun.
It was fun. We went to see the Lion King, which I know is so touristy.
And I wouldn't have gone to the Lion King when I was living there.
But my friend loves the Lion King. So I took her there and it was magical.
It was awesome. Sometimes it's good to be a tourist in New York.
Yeah, why not? That's really cool. I never saw The Lion King.
I did see the Beauty and the Beast movie, though.
It's all cool. The movie or the show? The Broadway show.
The movie. Oh, the movie. Oh, awesome. Awesome.
Well, it was really cool the way they did the animals in The Lion King.
I was wondering how you would take a movie with animals and stuff as the primary characters and put them on Broadway.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love the Lion King. The music is beautiful.
Beautiful story. Beautiful play. Very nice costumes.
And we were sitting close so we could see the details and the costumes and things.
It was cool. It was. Oh, I'm glad you had fun.
Thank you. Yeah. So let's dive into it then, because we've you know, we're pushing through here today, Michelle.
I know you're a little bit sick, so I want to say thank you for showing up for our listeners today.
And we appreciate your dedication to the show.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Lindsay.
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Michelle, I want to start with a quote today.
Okay. Okay. Are you ready for the quote?
I want to know if you agree with this quote because I love this quote.
Here it is. Okay. Ready? I'm ready. Okay.
If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.
Okay. Oh, interesting. Interesting. So I saw online they attributed this to Confucius, but for some reason, I don't know if that's true.
I don't know who said it. But anyways, Michelle, what do you think about this quote?
Yeah, I like it. I like it a lot. I think...
And it's basically all about continuing to challenge yourself.
Even if you've reached some sort of height or peak, you should always be surrounding yourself by people who are going to make you smarter, make you have to think more and challenge your thoughts.
And I like that. I totally agree. You know, and I think to me, the way I interpret this quote is not just about intelligence like IQ.
I think that's such a limited way of looking at the world.
To me, this is about making sure you're in places where people challenge you in general.
Right. I mean, this past weekend when we were in New York, the reason we went was my friend was invited to a dinner at the Explorers Club, which is this famous restaurant.
This club, its members are people who do things like they go to Antarctica and they research penguins and they climb Mount Everest.
These people that do epic things in their lives.
They do things that change the world. They do research that makes important change for the quality of our lives.
And they also do a lot of exploring and adventuring.
These types of people are who are part of this club.
And we went to a happy hour. to meet some people in the club.
And it was just fascinating just being in the room with people.
I mean, one guy in the, in the club actually has been, was, was labeled like the world's greatest explorer, world's greatest adventure in the Guinness Book of World Records, like back in the 80s.
Wait, so did you meet him? No, I didn't meet him, but he was there.
So I don't know, just being in places where these people make you want to be a better person, I think is worth, is worth the, worth the trip, worth doing it, you know?
Right, right, right, right. Oh, I love that.
That's so cool. I'm glad you had fun. Exactly.
So that's important. But today we're going to talk about something that's related, but on the other side.
Today we're going to talk about what to do when someone offers you an opportunity at work, but it's not inside your skill set, right?
Okay. I mean, sometimes our skills will transfer and it makes sense to say yes, but other times it's completely out of our skill set and it would be silly to try to do that thing.
And now we have this other quote that's kind of on the opposite end of what we just talked about.
What is that quote, Michelle? Okay. It's don't bite off more than you can chew.
Yeah. What does that mean? It's basically don't do like don't say yes to more than you can really handle.
Yeah. And in some ways, I see these quotes as being like kind of opposites to each other.
Right. We should challenge ourselves and be around people who make us do things that maybe we put ourselves out of our comfort zone.
But at the same time, we shouldn't take on things that we know we absolutely don't have the skills to do.
Right. So I feel like success is finding a balance between the two.
What do you think, Michelle? Yeah, yeah.
I think the skills or the time or whatever, like maybe you have the skills to do something, but you don't always have the time, right?
Maybe it's too overwhelming for whatever reason.
Yeah, don't do more than you are able to at that moment in time.
Exactly. And that quote, don't bite off more than you can chew.
I feel like it's more often used in the way that you mentioned regarding being busy.
Right. Because some people tend to fill their schedules so much and they overextend themselves.
Right. Right. Oh, yeah. I think that's familiar.
That makes me also think of don't spread yourself too thin.
Oh, good one. We got all kinds of great quotes and idioms coming out today, guys.
This is gold. I hope you're getting the transcripts for today.
This is good stuff. Okay. So then today what we're going to show you guys is what if someone comes to you at work and they offer you an opportunity, like a project, but it's not in your skill set, right?
So we had a student of ours who came to us with this question and the student wanted to know what to say if this happened to her, okay?
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Exclusions apply. See details online. So, Michelle, let's let's tell our listeners some phrases that you can use and then we'll do a role play to show them how it's done.
OK. OK. So what's the first thing we could say if I come up to you and I say, hey, Michelle, you know, oh, I really need some help with with the blog, with the All Ears English blog, you know, would you be able to help me with that?
Oh, this sounds really interesting. And just so you know, I don't have any experience with that task.
I like how we used and instead of but. Why did we do that?
Because if you say but, it sounds kind of like a negative.
Yeah. Yeah, I feel like with this one, yeah, I feel like I would finish it personally by saying like, oh, I don't have any experience with that task, but like I'm willing to learn.
And in that situation, I think I would say but.
Yeah, but I'm willing to learn. Okay, I like it.
So it's personal choice here. Or we can add that one to the end of the list of our phrases here.
But there are a bunch of different ways we can do it.
And you know, sometimes we want to, you know, I think the point is just to be upfront, right?
And then that person can decide the person who invited you to do the task, they can decide whether they want you to do it or not.
Right? Okay, yeah, exactly. Yeah. How about the next one?
Okay, so the next one is, this sounds great and I want to be upfront about my skills.
I have never done X, Y, Z, right? Whatever it is, right?
I've never fixed a bike or I've never done brain surgery.
Right, right, right. Okay, good. So this sounds great and I want to be upfront.
I like this because it feels very communicative, right?
It feels very transparent. Okay. Especially if you're new in a certain workplace, you've just arrived, maybe you're coming in from abroad and you've been assigned to an office in New York and someone offers you something.
It's very communicative, very transparent.
Right, right, right. Exactly, exactly. Yeah.
And the next one is, it sounds like an incredible opportunity.
And I just want to let you know that I don't have experience in this, for example.
Right? Right. Right. Yeah, I think that's good.
That's very, I like, oh, it sounds like an incredible opportunity.
Yeah, saying something really positive. Yeah.
A key piece of this is that Michelle is saying something positive, like making sure that you're being clear in the beginning that you're very honored or that it's wow, you're impressed that you've been offered that.
OK, but then you need to be up front. OK, right.
Right. What's the last one, Michelle? OK, the last one is I would love to take advantage of this opportunity, but I should be transparent and tell you that.
Yeah, that I've never done it before, that I don't know about this, or I don't have a degree in this.
Okay, whatever it is, guys, you fill in the blank there, right?
Okay. So we want to show you guys how this comes into play in a role play so we can bring this to life a bit more.
Okay. So Michelle, in this case, we are researchers at MIT.
We're scientists, okay? Yeah. I think that one of the big fields where people tend to work who get relocated to the U.S. is scientists, right?
Because I know I've worked with some scientists at MIT.
I've worked with some physicists there, helping them with their English, and it's a common thing.
So I bet some of our listeners are actually working in labs around the country.
So, Michelle, you are going to be our PI, which is our principal investigator, okay?
Okay. That sounds like such a cool term.
It almost sounds like a cop or something.
Right. So it just means that you're the leader of the lab, okay?
Right. And I am a visiting scholar who came to do research on AIDS, and my entire background is focused on AIDS research, not any other diseases.
I don't know any other diseases, okay? Okay.
Here we go. All right. Good morning, Lindsay.
What's on your agenda for the week? Good morning, Michelle.
I'm getting an early start today so that I can get these cells under the microscope and get some notes down before lunch.
Oh, I see. Actually, Lindsay, the other team in the lab will be getting started with some new research on thyroid cancer later this week.
I thought you might want to be on the team for the week.
Oh, wow. This sounds great. And I just want to be upfront about my skills.
I've never done any research on thyroid cancer.
Oh, I understand. I thought you would make a great addition to the team when it comes to setting up our experimental groups.
Oh, okay. I see. Well, I think my work with AIDS research would transfer well.
Exactly. So we meet on Wednesday at 3 for the first time in room 203.
See you there? Absolutely. Thank you. Okay.
Yeah. I thought that was really good. That's really nice because now I can walk into that meeting feeling very comfortable because I've been completely clear. about what I can and cannot do.
I think where we get into trouble, especially if we're international researchers and we're already feeling uncomfortable, we get into trouble when we're not clear about what our skillset is, when we think people are gonna expect things from us that we can't do, right?
That causes stress. Right. Right. Exactly.
Yeah. I think that, you know, you know, it was explained up front and, you know, the other person still wanted your help, you know, like, I don't know.
It was good and it worked out. Exactly. So what was the phrase?
I could only really use one of the ones that we taught, guys.
So that's why you're going to want to go back and get the transcripts if you go to allearsenglish.com forward slash subscribe.
But Michelle, what was the one that we used here?
Okay. So you said, oh, wow. And then you said, this sounds great.
And right. So use that. And I just want to be upfront about my skills.
I have never done any research on thyroid cancer.
Yeah. And it's good because now that I've been upfront, you know, I, and the other thing that I didn't do is I didn't just curl up and say no, right.
Cause that's where opportunities stop coming our way.
That's where we start to lose a professional, you know, uh, our reputation or, you know, lose an opportunity is when we curl up and we say, oh, I don't, I can't do it.
No, thank you. Right. Why are you saying no?
You want to be clear. Okay. Right. Absolutely.
Absolutely. I think that's good. Yeah. So what's the takeaway today, Michelle?
Okay, so the takeaway is, you know, you should really communicate before there's a problem.
So, like, don't assume that you can't contribute to something if it doesn't seem directly related to your work.
Like in this example, like, you know, I thought, oh, Lindsay would still be good for this, even though she doesn't have experience on that particular, you know, on thyroid cancer, but her other skills would apply, right?
So don't assume like, oh, you can't do it.
You very well are likely to, and that's why the person... might be asking you, but definitely be upfront.
And that's the most important thing. Exactly.
And now you as the principal investigator, you're going to be able to like place me in the right place in the meeting, right?
Insert my skills where it's needed. And it's just so much, it just reduces so much stress when we communicate.
It's amazing, guys. And now you have the skills to do it if you're in this situation, right?
And I mean, I think it's always good to challenge ourselves and take on things that, you know, that maybe are a bit of a stretch if we're able to communicate.
And OK, so cool. Yeah. Awesome. OK, I like that.
I like that. OK, well, thanks. Yeah, that was really interesting topic.
Interesting topic. Guys, go on over, get the transcripts, allearsenglish.com forward slash subscribe.
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OK, we will be we will be back soon, Michelle.
Thanks for hanging out with that cold. We appreciate it.
Thank you. Have a good one, Lindsay. OK, bye.
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