Welcome to English as a Second Language Podcast, number 156, Rumors and Secrets.
You're listening to English as a Second Language Podcast, episode 156.
I'm your host, Dr Jeff McQuillan, coming to you from the Center for Educational Development in beautiful Los Angeles, California.
This podcast is going to be about two people talking about one of their fellow workers and talking about rumors that they have heard.
Let's get started.
So what do you think of the new guy?
Oh, you mean Bernard?
He's okay, I guess.
Why?
Well, I heard that he left his last company under mysterious circumstances.
I tried to find out more from Libby, but she was very hush-hush about it.
I'm not surprised.
Libby doesn't like to gossip, unlike some people.
I'm not gossiping.
I just like to know more about the people I work with.
Okay, but don't start any rumors.
Bernard seems nice, and I think we should give him a chance.
Don't worry.
I'll cut him some slack, but I want to know what skeletons are in his closet.
Take it from me you won't find any dirty little secrets, and you may make an enemy of Bernard in the process.
You're probably right, but I wonder what Nathan knows.
On this podcast we heard a dialogue between Jack and Kate, and they are talking at work about one of their new co-workers or new fellow employees.
The dialogue begins by Jack saying, so what do you think of the new guy?
The new guy would be the new person in this case.
And we use that expression sort of as a joke when you have someone new join your company or your organization.
And people will say, oh, yeah, he's the new guy.
He's the new person.
The old expression for this was the new kid on the block.
A block, of course, is part of a city where people live.
You have streets, and in between the streets are blocks where the houses and the buildings are.
So the expression a new kid on the block means that someone had just moved there and all the other kids, all the other children, would refer to him as the new kid on the block.
Well here, it's a similar idea, except we just say the new guy.
Kate says, oh, you mean Bernard.
That is, you are talking about Bernard.
She says, he's okay, I guess.
Why?
The use of I guess here means I think so.
She's not actually trying to guess what this person is like.
We use that expression to mean I think.
But usually when you're not quite sure, you don't have a strong opinion.
Jack says that he heard that the new guy left his company under mysterious circumstances.
In other words, Jack heard a rumor, and a rumor R-U-M-O-R is what someone says about someone else and you're not quite sure if it's true or not.
Rumors get started frequently about, for example, celebrities or movie stars.
One of the most famous rumors is that Elvis the singer, Elvis Presley, isn't really dead, that he's living somewhere on some small island.
Well, that's a rumor, a false rumor, I think.
Who knows?
But in this case, the rumor is about how Bernard the new guy left his previous company, his old company, his last company, under mysterious circumstances.
Mysterious is an adjective.
The noun is mystery.
And when we say something is a mystery, we mean we don't know what the answer is.
We don't understand it.
And mysterious would be the adjective.
Well, it's a mysterious circumstance.
A circumstance is a situation, what happens.
That's circumstance.
We use that word circumstance a lot.
To say, for example, under difficult circumstances, meaning under a situation that would be difficult, or in these circumstances, I would recommend that you find another job.
Meaning in this situation, I would recommend that.
Well, Bernard left his job under mysterious circumstances, according to Jack.
That's Jack's opinion, what he heard from someone else.
He says that he tried to find out more from Libby, one of his other co-workers, but she was very hush-hush about it.
Hush, H-U-S-H, hyphen hush, H-U-S-H.
To be hush, hush, hush means not to talk about it, to be secretive, to not want to tell anyone else.
Someone says, oh, he's very hush-hush about his new girlfriend.
Means he doesn't want to talk about his new girlfriend.
That's to be hush-hush.
Kate says that she isn't surprised that Libby, her co-worker, doesn't like to gossip, unlike some people.
To gossip G-O-S-S-I-P means to tell rumors to other people about someone else, or to talk about someone else when they aren't there.
This of course is a very popular thing that we do.
We talk about our friends or our family members.
And the word, in this case the verb, to gossip, is a negative, has a negative meaning in English.
To gossip is considered a bad thing.
But even so, people, of course, do gossip.
We can also use gossip as a noun.
I heard some gossip, for example.
Or did you hear the gossip about Tom Cruise?
Did you?
Well, Kate says in our story that Libby doesn't like to gossip, unlike some people.
That expression, unlike U-N-L-I-K-E some people, means that she is telling Jack that he likes to gossip.
We use this expression as something of an insult to someone else.
Usually it's not serious.
What we are saying is that this person is doing something wrong, something that he or she shouldn't do, and you are telling them that by using this indirect expression.
For example, My friend is complaining about his brother.
And I say, well, my brother doesn't like to complain, unlike some people.
And if I say that to him, I mean unlike you.
So we are telling someone that they are like that.
They have that negative characteristic.
Kate says that Libby doesn't like to gossip, unlike some people meaning unlike you Jack, who likes to gossip.
Jack says, I'm not gossiping.
I just like to know more about the people I work with.
Kate says that Jack should not start any rumors.
Notice we use the verb to start with a rumor.
I'm going to start a rumor means I'm going to make something up or I'm going to tell other people something.
I'll be the first one to tell them.
To give someone a chance, C-H-A-N-C-E, means to give them an opportunity.
There is a similar expression, which is to give someone a break, B-R-E-A-K.
You give someone a break when they do something wrong and you're not going to yell at them or be angry at them or think badly of them.
You say well, give me a break, can mean that you did something wrong, but now you want to be able to do it correctly.
We also use the expression give me a break When we don't believe someone or we think something that we are being told is wrong.
Someone will say did you hear that Elvis is living in Los Angeles.
And you say, give me a break, means I don't believe that.
Well, in the dialogue, Kate says that she thinks they should give Bernard a chance.
Give him an opportunity.
Jack says, don't worry, I'll cut him some slack.
I will cut him some slack.
S-L-A-C-K.
To cut someone some slack is similar to give someone a break.
It means that we aren't going to worry about that person doing everything right all the time.
We usually use this expression for someone who is just beginning a job or beginning a project, and you are giving them the opportunity to learn and to do better.
So you cut them some slack.
The word slack S-L-A-C-K actually is when you have a rope or a string and it's tight meaning two people are pulling on it, for example, from different directions.
Well, if you stop pulling on it, there will be some loose string or loose rope, and that's called slack, when the rope isn't tight.
But to cut someone some slack means to give them a break, to give them a chance, to give them an opportunity.
Jack says that he wants to know what skeletons are in Bernard's closet.
A skeleton.
S-K-E-L-E-T-O-N is, of course, the bones in your body, but without the skin, without the blood, without the organs.
When you die, for example... you will lose those things and you will have nothing but a skeleton.
Well, you often see a skeleton, for example, as a symbol on Halloween in the United States.
And it's just the bones of a person.
Now, the expression, you want to see what skeletons are in your closet or are hidden in your closet.
The idea is that if you kill someone and you don't want anyone to know, you may put their body in a closet and eventually, after time passes, there will be just their skeletons.
Not a very pleasant, nice idea, but it is a common expression.
People say I think he has some skeletons in his closet, meaning something happened in his past that was bad.
We often look for skeletons in the closets of politicians, for example.
A politician will be running for president, trying to become president or prime minister in a country.
And someone will go back and talk to their old friends and find out if they did anything wrong when they were younger.
That's looking for skeletons in someone's closet.
Well, Kate says, take it from me, you won't find any dirty little secrets.
The first expression, take it from me, means believe me.
Listen to what I am saying, because I know more than you do.
Take it from me, you do not want to visit Minnesota in December.
It's much too cold.
In other words, I know because I have some knowledge or some experience.
Kate also says that you won't find any dirty little secrets.
Well, a secret, you know, of course, is something that you are hiding from someone else, something you are not telling someone else.
Dirty little secrets is an expression which means some very bad secrets, some secrets about something negative that happened in this person's life.
Kate says that you may make an enemy of Bernard in the process.
To make an enemy of someone means that you get that other person angry, mad at you and then they will not like you if you do that.
So to make enemies means to do something that will get other people mad at you.
The expression in the process Kate says you may make an enemy of Bernard in the process means while you are doing that, and usually the expression in the process is used when a person doesn't realize or doesn't intend for the other thing to happen.
So, for example, In this dialogue, Jack wants to find out what skeletons are hidden in Bernard's closet.
But if he tries to do that, Bernard may become angry with him.
That isn't why Jack is looking for skeletons.
He's not trying to make Bernard angry.
But in the process that will happen, meaning because he's doing the other thing, looking for skeletons in his closet.
That may make Bernard unhappy.
The dialogue ends with Jack saying, you're probably right, but I wonder what Nathan knows.
Means he's still looking for rumors and secrets, and he's now going to talk to another one of his co-workers, Nathan.
Now let's listen to the dialogue, this time at a native rate of speech.
So, what do you think of the new guy?
Oh, you mean Bernard?
He's okay, I guess.
Why?
Well, I heard that he left his last company under mysterious circumstances.
I tried to find out more from Libby, but she was very hush-hush about it.
I'm not surprised.
Libby doesn't like to gossip, unlike some people.
I'm not gossiping.
I just like to know more about the people I work with.
Okay, but don't start any rumors.
Bernard seems nice, and I think we should give him a chance.
Don't worry.
I'll cut him some slack.
But I want to know what skeletons are in his closet.
Take it from me.
You won't find any dirty little secrets, and you might make an enemy of Bernard in the process.
You're probably right.
But I wonder what Nathan knows.
The script for today's podcast was written by our own Dr. Lucy Say.
Thank you, Lucy.
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From Los Angeles, California, I'm Jeff McQuillan.
Thanks for listening.
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English as a Second Language Podcast is written and produced by Dr Lucy Say, hosted by Dr Jeff McQuillan.
This podcast is copyright 2006.
