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Oh, yeah.
That's the smell I'm talking about.
Psst.
Hey, smarty pants.
See if you can guess where I am.
It's a place that makes and sells all kinds of goodies.
You know, things like cookies cupcakes croissants danishes, muffins and two of my most favorite things in the world cakes and pies.
Smarty Pants, you know where it's at.
Come on, let's all say it together.
Right now, I'm in a bakery.
That's right.
And whoever said the zoo, I hope you're just joking.
Anyway, the bakery is a wonderful place because it's where you can find both cakes and pies.
The question is, which do I want?
Cake or pie?
I'm thinking...
A slice of cake.
No, wait.
Make it pie.
No, I want cake.
But I do love pie.
And there's so many flavors.
But there's a lot of different cakes, too.
Uh, what do I do?
What would you do, Smarty Pants?
Would you go with a nice frosted cake?
Or maybe chocolate?
Or carrot?
Or red velvet?
Or cheese?
Or would you go with pie?
Like apple, pumpkin, blueberry, cherry, pecan, or key lime?
Hey, listen, buddy.
You want a piece of me or what?
Excuse me?
Who said that?
Down here.
I'm the freshly baked apple pie on the counter.
Let's go.
Pick me.
I ain't got all day, you know.
Right.
Apple pie does sound good, and I wouldn't want you to go bad.
Oh, dear.
Don't you worry.
Pies like him can last for up to two days at room temperature.
And now the white frosted cake is talking to me, too.
Of course I am.
Everything on Who Smarted Talk.
Yeah, did you forget what show you were narrating?
No, of course not.
And now my tummy is talking too.
Okay, Smarty Pants, which should I eat?
And don't say both.
I should really only eat one.
So do I go with cake or pie?
Oh, don't mind him.
He's just a little crusty.
Aw, ain't you sweet.
Well, guess what?
I'm sweet, too.
Come on, trustee.
You need to make up your mind already.
Remember, at the bakery, you get to have your cake and eat it, too.
Ah, what do I do?
Smarty pants, there's so many delicious options of cakes and pies.
But what makes a pie a pie and a cake a cake?
Where did they each come from?
And which is truly better?
Pie!
And what about the odd ones like cheesecake and Boston cream pie?
Or my favorite, pizza pie?
Oh boy, now I'm really hungry.
Get ready for a big, fresh-baked whiff of science and history on... Who's Smarted?
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Pie or cake?
Oh, boy.
Looks like this guy's going to be here for a while.
My dear, let me help you.
Is there a particular day that makes you happy?
Perhaps a celebration or...
Of you on the day you were born.
Oh, you mean like my birthday?
Yes.
And what do you always eat on your birthday?
A birthday cake.
A birthday cake.
Now, if it's good enough for your most special day, it's good enough for today.
A piece of cake it is.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
No tricks from the treats.
Sweetie, that was no trick.
Uh-huh.
Well, two can play at that game.
What do you eat after your Thanksgiving dinner?
Uh, pumpkin pie?
Well, sometimes apple pie.
Or both.
With ice cream.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, either way, you said pie.
And if pie is good enough for one of the biggest, best meals of the year, then it's good enough for today.
Well played, pie.
But I still say birthdays beat Thanksgivings.
Everyone celebrates Thanksgiving, but everyone has a birthday.
Facts.
Pie is better.
Facts.
That is not a fact.
That is an opinion.
And not a very good one.
Hold on.
I don't want any food fighting.
And cake's right.
Let's stick to the facts.
Maybe they can help me decide.
How about which of you came first?
Smarty Pants, who do you think invented the pie?
Was it A?
Ah, that's easy as pie.
The answer is C. goes all the way back to ancient Egypt.
They would wrap meat in pastry to keep it from burning.
Of course, this tasted pretty darn good, and they saw the potential for its greatness.
Not just with meats, mind you, but also with sweet stuff like honey.
Then the ancient Greeks and Romans tweaked the recipe to make their pies even better.
Ooh, like pizza pies.
No, I ain't talking about pizza pies.
I'm talking about delicious sweet meat treats.
Whoa, hang on a second.
Many of the ancient Roman pies weren't meant to be eaten as pies.
Uh, come again?
Like I said, many of the ancient Roman pies weren't meant to be eaten Smartypants.
Why would someone make a pie and then not eat it?
Was it because, A they were made of mud, B they were made to preserve meats or, C they contained poison?
Which is it, Pie?
All right, the answer is B. The thick crusts weren't meant to be eaten.
They simply kept the inside filling flavorful.
Sailors would take these kind of pies on long sea voyages because the meats inside them stayed fresher longer.
And the Romans were also known for building roads.
And then they'd go on long road trips and they'd bring their meat pies with them.
Did someone say meat pie?
Oh, maybe I should try making those too.
Absolutely.
Eventually, they did make meat pies that were eaten as delicious pies.
So there, I came first.
What do you say to that, cake?
Well, hold on now, Pike.
Smarty Pants, who do you think invented cake?
Was it A Italian bakers during the early 1500s, B prehistoric cavemen or C Egyptian bakers during ancient times?
That's a piece of cake.
The answer was is C?
The ancient Egyptians yep, ancient Egyptians made dessert breads with honey fruits, and The Greeks would also make their own cakes, adding eggs, butter and other ingredients to make them softer and richer.
They also put candles on them.
As you may remember learning about on our Birthday Traditions, episode Smarty Pants.
Of course.
Cake back then wasn't light and soft like it is today.
Ancient cake was very much like bread.
But?
Tinkered with cake recipes, Adding a substance called leaven.
Smarty Pants, any idea what a leaven does?
Does it A. Add air to a cake B. Add more flavor to a cake Or C, add more sugar?
The answer is A, it adds air.
The Romans used yeast to make cakes lighter, and then the Italians whipped eggs.
In the 1800s, bakers started using soda and baking powder leavens in their cakes.
These cakes were not only better, they baked faster.
So, to summarize, cakes and pies came from the same spot, ancient Egypt, and were improved by Greeks and Romans.
Hmm, that does not help me decide which one to choose.
You know what?
Forget the history.
Let's just choose by taste.
Pies have two basic parts.
One, you got your delicious pastry crust.
And two, you got your filling.
Fruit pies are the most popular.
There's blueberry, peach, and of course, apple.
The pilgrims who came to the United States baked a lot of those, turning it into an American symbol.
But you can thank the British for the cherry pie.
Supposedly the very first one was baked for Queen Elizabeth I, but you know what else the Brits love savory pies.
Smarty Pants, what kind of food is savory?
Is it A, sweet and sugary?
B, salty or spicy?
Or C, alive and kicking?
Uh, no, we're not eating live Basically, meat pies.
Meat pie!
I've got chicken pork lamb sausage, steak and cheese and mincemeat, which is a combination of meats, fats and sweets like dried fruits and sugar.
And don't forget pizza pies.
They count, right?
No, pizza pies are not technically pies. but those other meat and sweet pies are.
Look, any way you slice it, pies are better.
You can have one for dinner and dessert.
Can you do that with cake?
Well, there is.
Who wants meat cake?
Of course, outside of Who Smarted, I don't think you're going to be able to find too much meat cake.
Certainly not at your local bakery.
Thank goodness.
That's because cakes are usually sweet.
Made with flour sugar, eggs and that little ingredient, baking powder or soda.
There's also flavoring poured into the cake mix, so you can have chocolate lemon, strawberry or any.
And while most pies have a dry crust, cakes have a deliciously sweet covering.
First, it was icing, kind of like what you'd find on cookies.
Smarty Pants, what would icing cover a cake look like?
Why, ice, of course.
But that evolved into a thicker, more snow-like topping. called frosting.
And with special pants and frosting, you can make cakes that look like just about anything.
Unicorns, superheroes, Whatever.
Maybe people like to look at cakes, but they'd rather eat pies.
That is so not true.
Oh, boy.
Smarty Pants, which is more popular worldwide, pies or cakes?
Maybe the answer will help me decide.
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Now back to who's smarted.
Okay, I'm trying to decide between a slice of cake and a slice of pie.
And I definitely hear a lot of you saying, why not just have one of each?
But here's the thing.
Like with any treat, I don't want to overdo it.
Depending on the ingredients, both pies and cake contain lots of sugar and calories.
And while savory pies aren't sugary, they can be high in sodium and fat.
But having one every now and then is okay.
But which one?
That's easy.
Who doesn't want a piece of the pie?
Someone who thinks this decision is a cakewalk.
Okay, okay.
I have to know.
Which is more popular with people, cakes or pies?
Let me look online.
Hmm, not much help here.
Some say cake, some say pies.
Here's a survey that put every pie and cake in a bracket, like a sports tournament.
Smarty pants, guess who won?
Pie or cake?
The winner was... Cheesecake.
Oh, bless your heart, pie guy.
You tried hard, but it seems cake takes the cake.
Thank you, thank you.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up.
Did you say cheesecake?
I did.
You know what cheesecake has?
A crust.
That's because cheesecake is a pie.
But the crust is made with graham cracker or cookies, not pie pastry.
And look at the name, dear.
It's a cake.
So what do you think, Smarty Pants?
As it happens, what cheesecake is has been debated nearly as much as pies versus cakes.
Foods don't follow strict rules, and names often get mixed up.
Take the Boston Cream Pie.
Oh, I love Boston Cream Pie.
Probably because it's actually a cake.
What?
Is that true?
It is.
A Boston cream pie has cake ingredients but it's called a pie because it was originally baked in a pie pan.
Ingredients didn't matter.
And then there's the unusual pie that's perhaps the most famous and favorite of all.
Oh, no.
You're not going to say what I think you're going to say.
Oh, I sure am.
While you might not think of pizza as a traditional pie, it does have a crust and something like a filling, with all those yummy meat and veggie toppings.
And fruits like pineapple.
No!
No pineapple on pizza!
For me.
But now that I think about it, the choice of what to eat is clear.
Pie! take a pizza with pepperoni, mushrooms, garlic, and extra cheese to go.
Well, doesn't fat just take the cake?
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We're happy to have you smarting with us.
This episode...
Our associate producer is Max Carrotcake Kamaski.
The theme song is by Brian Seven Layer Suarez, with lyrics written and performed by Adam Tex-Davis.
Who Smarted was created and produced by Adam Tex-Davis and Jerry Kolber.
This has been an Atomic Entertainment production.