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My name is Jack and I'm here with my co-host social and today we're doing another topic talk and today's question is should humans switch to a plant based diet to protect animalrights?
What do youthink,social?
Hmm, should humans switch to a plant baseddiet?
Well, I have been vegan in the past Jack and I've also been vegetarian in thepast.
So I had eaten a plant based diet on multipleoccasions.
But I never judge anyone who didn't because it's a very hard switch because the world is kind of built around assuming that you have an ominemorediet.
And now vegan food is way more accessible back when I was vegan in highschool.
It was very hard to bevegan.
You couldn't go out to eatanywhere.
You couldn't buy any like ready-made vegan food at thestore.
And there weren't any products like there weren't any good veggie burgers orbeef.
No impossible burgers or anything likethat.
No, so it reallysucked.
And thenI,yeah, so I don'tknow.
And then there are there were there was a phase where I would eat plant based like two weeks out of the month and then the other two weeks I just eatnormal.
But that was more that wasyeah, Imean,yeah, it was kind of a healthything.
Not in the ways you mightexpect.
Butyeah, so I don'tknow.
This is a tricky one because to me now I likemeat.
I enjoy meat and I enjoy having food freedom and getting to eat whatever Iwant.
And I think that as people us being vegan is like far less or us consuming meat or choosing not to consume meat or choosing to eat plant based or not plant based whatever it maybe.
It's far less damaging to the environment or has far less of an impactoverall.
Then these giant greedy corporations and industries that are choosing practices that are they know have been harmful for years like the frackingindustry.
And so I think ultimatelyyes, it's just like our little drop in a bucket or drop in theocean.
And we can choose a dude or not to doit.
I don't think it really necessarily makes you better ornot.
Neither do I just think it's so much more impactful for a corporation to like and the government to put in regulations than it is for people to just go like me those Mondays orsomething.
Yeah, my problem with eating meat and it's the factory farming is I have a real problem with that because I know that there are definitely animal abuses that arehappening.
And yet even though I know thatintellectually, it's really hard for me to make the switch to vegan or vegetarian or vegan orvegetarian.
And even though I know that it's probably morally the right thing to do until farming practices become moreethical.
And youknow, because I think that like the way that they pack chickens into tiny littlespaces.
Right, these tiny cages and they don't can't walk oranything.
Yeah,yeah. And they pack each other to death and they all kinds of really horrible thingshappen.
Same withcows,sorry, same with cows and same with pigs aswell.
And yet I just lovemeat.
That isfunny. I really have noexcuse, youknow.
It's just like and when I don't eatmeat, I kind of feel the color kind of drain out of myface, youknow, like I feel weak when I'm not eatingprotein.
And I know that you can get protein from othersources.
Youknow, it's not like vegans don't eatprotein.
But it's just so much cheaper and so much easier to just buy like a bag of chicken breasts and orsome, youknow, some pork or something likethat.
Well, it's kind of tastier and it's like the way group because like it's probably cheaper to buy like a big thing of tofu or a big thing of beans and cook itreally.
But it is convenient and it's like something that you're usedto,right?
So it's like it's just hard to breakthat.
Like it'stasty. Like I'll be real withyou.
I don't want to eat like a like a I'd rather eat a plate of chicken wings and like a tofu and beans dish orsomething.
Yeah. Youknow, if I lived if I lived in Mexico and I could get like a really nice plate of like beans withrice.
Oh,yeah. I think I could actually I think inMexico, I could actually doit, youknow.
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I think I could doit. Almond milk or something likethat.
I like milk more than I like regularmilk, but it's like worse foryou.
Yeah. It's notright. Healthwise.
It's probably it's notbetter.
It's just might be better for the environment perhaps or or it might be more ethicalto, youknow.
Well, one interesting thing with like dealing with the ethics ofit,Jack, islike, does not necessarilylike, you could justeat, Imean, it's moreexpensive, but you could eat organic meat that has ethicalpractices, youknow.
That'strue. That'strue.
If you you source the right the rightproduct, you can find stuff that's a little bit more ethically growing orwhatever.
That'strue. That'strue.
Yeah. Iguess, youknow, forme, it just comes down to dollars and cents in manyways.
It's just I justlike, I don't want to pay the extra money forit.
And so I just I just kind of push it to the back of my mind thatlike,oh, it's probably not as bad as they say itis.
Youknow, but I do I think it is prettybad.
Actually, this the factory farmingsituation.
And I thinkit's, youknow, it'll be interesting to see like in thefuture, what happens when they start growinglab, youknow, lab growingmeat.
That that'll be interestingbecause, youknow, there may maybe a time when they when they don't need animals at allanymore.
We may not have to to deal with that atall.
I don't know how people might be disgusted byit.
I definitely would be less disgusted by lab growing meat than I would be by like how thepractices, you know what Imean?
Yeah,yeah, watching the animals torture each other into death in these tinycages, seems less disgusting than then growing some meat in alab.
So, lab meat seems like you would be reallysterile.
And like with the conditions that they have in these factoryfarms, like a lot of the meat probably has like nasty infections and stuff likeantibiotics.
Yeah, all thisstuff.Yeah, like they have to have antibiotics to avoid the infections and all thatnasty.
So I don'tknow. Iyeah, I honestly would would be more interested in lab meat because I would think it would besterile.
Imean, I wouldn't want to like die from some weirdmutation.
But, youknow, Imean, I'm sure that would beunlikely.
Yeah,yeah.Well, I may make I may make another run at vegetarianism here in the nearfuture.
But I'm I've got to mentally prepare myself forit.
Yeah, you don't have to go all ornothing.
You can you can just like slowly introduce more vegetarian meals into yourdiet.
Yeah. And youknow,like, youknow, maybe have a or go like pescatarian orsomething, which is so easy to do inKorea.
Yeah, that'strue.Yeah, you could go like pescatarian and you could just slowly like phase out and there's not that muchdairy.
Yeah. And for ourlisteners, pescatarian meansseafood.
So you could just go like fully seafooddiet.
Yeah, you just go like a seafood diet prettymuch.
Soyeah, Imean,yeah, I don'tknow.
I think that theyeah, I getit.
Imean, most of the time here inMexico, it's kind of more accessible to get like meat that's butchered locally and that you know the practices aregood.
Like, youknow, you the chickens running around and you know that they're healthy andhappy.
Yeah, before before it's had got lockedoff, at least it had a goodlife, youknow, it's like it washappy.
Soyeah.Yeah,yeah, it's kind of mything.
I think it's really more up to corporations to do things moreethically.
I think what in what wecan, we should like just eating less meat and high quality meat that has more ethicalpractice.
Overall, and Imean, I think that'simportant.
But at the sametime, I think it's like up to corporations to it's up to the government to put to make laws that guarantee corporations behaving in an ethicalmanner.
But they won't dothat. These corporations can make more money behavingunethically.
Soright. Kind of a good appshoot.
I'm interested to hear what our listeners have tosay.
I know that many of our listeners come from vegetarian cultures and others come from meat dominantcultures.
Many countries you weigh less meat than the USdoes.
So I'm justcurious. Sooverall, youknow, what what they have tosay, what theythink.
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