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Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I Heart Radio.
Hey and welcome to the podcast.
I'm Josh and there's Chuck and Jerry sitting into and this is Stuff You Should Know.
I got no addition to label this one.
It's Stuff You Should Know and leave it at that.
Well can we continue the conversation we're having for a We Hit Record?
Yes.
Because you said save it.
Well go ahead.
Well we said grit and Jerry said cheese grits and you said gross and I said cheese grits
gross and you went, yeah.
I don't know what what and you said save it.
Well here we are again and yes I reiterate I think cheese grits are gross.
So grits period or just the addition of cheese to grits?
Typically grits.
Really?
Let me qualify that.
There are like high end grits with the right kind of shrimp and the right kind of cheese
mixed in.
Okay.
I would eat those but typically like grits out of the box it's like, oh god.
Really?
It's like you just chewed up a bunch of gravel and vomited it out into a bowl.
Are you cooking them?
Because grits are soft.
Well and I'm eating them at the wrong places.
Okay.
All right.
I don't, maybe it's because I was raised in Ohio or something like that.
People have North look down on grits.
I'm not sure why but I'm not sure if maybe that percolated into my being.
I don't know.
You know what?
That might be a good shorty because I grew up in the South and I think there is a
northern antagrit bias.
There definitely is.
These because they're called grits.
I think that's part of it.
I mean, I associate chicken with grits but not like, like chickens eating grits or like
picking around in the grit.
It's just like something you want to eat.
But that's not at all what we're talking about.
No, no.
No, we're talking about the clever t-shirt that you used to be able to buy at Cracker
Barrel.
So that's a grits that stood for girls raised in the South.
I never saw those.
Well you didn't spend enough time at Cracker Barrel.
No, I was protesting.
Do you remember the protest?
Yes.
I did too.
When I was a teenager my parents wanted to go there.
It was at the height of their like whole anti-gay thing and I was like, okay.
And I went in and put on a bunch of my mom's makeup.
I was like, let's go.
Yeah, that one sticks with me because and I still think it's hysterical as a chant.
Do you remember the chant?
No.
It was, we're here.
We're queer and we're not eating breakfast.
I don't think I heard that.
I think of that every time I pass a Cracker Barrel on the highway, I still think about
that chant.
Well, yeah.
I guess I just kind of won away, right?
I don't, I think their anti-gay policy maybe was reverse, who knows?
I don't know.
I just think that chant is funny.
And awesome.
It is a great chant for sure.
But yeah, we're talking about an entirely different kind of grit.
No.
We're talking about, and we're going to get specific about sort of how it came back
into fashion as far as education goes, but we're talking about grit as an adjective, or,
well, no, it's still a noun.
Yeah, gritty would be an adjective, I think.
But grit as in, you got true grit.
You got real determination and real stick to itiveness.
That's my favorite one, stick to itiveness.
Yeah, that's the mouthful, huh?
Yeah, it's anything that has to do with perseverance.
And, you know, some people seem to have it better than others.
Some people seem to be willing to just hang in there through the highs and the lows
and just keep going.
And that is what, you know, the average person would call grit.
But the specific vein of grit that we're talking about was if you took that, just kind
of folk understanding of that quality of some people's personalities, and turned it into
a horrible idea about trying to figure out how to teach that to kids, and then even worse.