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Hey and welcome to the short stuff, where you been?
Is that our new slogan?
I guess.
Okay, I like it.
Okay, let's move forward.
Maybe they've been cut nice.
Yeah, maybe, riding around in a zamboni, because that's what you call those things no
matter what, right?
That's true, an ice resurfacing machine.
It is a proprietary eponym, zamboni, much like Band-Aid.
It is the name of one company, but it seems like there are two big, big players among
the ice resurfacing juggernaut that is zamboni and then the Olympia, which is made by the
resurface corp corporation.
Yeah, but they cleverly spelled resurface with the eye instead of an a at the end, so
resurface.
Yeah.
Love it.
I love it.
And zamboni is named after a single visionary man, technically three men, two, I guess.
Let's just go with Frank.
Frank J. Zamboni is widely credited as the inventor of the zamboni or the ice resurfacing
machine.
And the reason why is because he invented it.
That's right.
We go back to 1940 when Frank Zamboni and Lauren Zamboni, his brother and their cousin
said, hey, let's open up an ice skating rink.
We're in the ice business anyway.
We have an ice and refrigeration plant, so we know how to make plenty of ice.
Let's just spread that out over a floor and contain it and charge people to skate on
it.
Yeah.
They said, that's a really good idea.
Apparently it was extremely popular.
The problem is when you have people skating on a rink of ice, it gets cut up pretty quickly.
There's like divots and scratches and it's just, it looks terrible.
Looks messy.
So you want to make it look good again.
And you have to resurface it.
And resurfacing is a process.
It's actually what zamboni's do as we'll see.
But originally before the zamboni was invented, for the first couple of years that they own
the ice rink, Frank and Laurence and the unnamed cousin had to do this by hand.
So they would get a tractor that would drag like a blade that would kind of like shave
the top of the ice.
Then you have people following in the tractor's wake, cleaning up ice shavings, wetting the
ice again and then tallying it up to make it smooth.
And the whole thing would take like an hour and a half just for this one rink.
Yeah.
It's pretty bad.
And I know you, I think you were joking when you said it looks terrible, so they need
to make it look good.
The problem with chopped ice, of course, is you can't skate on it very well at all.
That too.
Yeah.
So, yeah, taking way too long, too much human hours, too many hands involved.
So Frank was like, hey, listen, I was born into a family that made and worked on farming
equipment.
I know how to make stuff and fix stuff.
And so I'm going to build a machine.
And so Frank, zamboni built the model A, zamboni ice resurfacer in 1949.
Look up a picture of this thing when you get a chance.
It's really cool looking.
It looks like you would think a model A, zamboni might look, which is to say kind of like
an army Jeep with a big wooden bin on top of it.
And it looks like a little mechanical ladder, I guess, that brought ice up.
Yeah.
So the reason it looked like a Jeep is because it was built on top of a Jeep chassis.
They basically just cut the top off and built the rest of the Zamboni on top of it.
They also use parts from an oil derrick and the hydraulic cylinder from a Douglas aircraft
fighter plane.
And I don't know if we mentioned it or not, but Frank's, Jay Zamboni was a mechanical genius.
Yeah, I did.
Okay, good.
Well, I second that.
So this was 1949.
That was the first Zamboni.
And what's interesting is the ads clearly show essentially what looked like would have been
the prototype, you know?
Yeah.
So that's what the first Zambonies were like.
So it took a few years to really catch on.
But they had some pretty big customers because what they were doing was providing a solution
that was way more widespread than you probably would have thought.
Anybody who made any kind of money from ice skating on ice really was facing all these
same problems.
So the idea of a machine that could do this and a fraction of the time at a fraction
of the human hours, that was a big advancement in the field.
Yeah, I know, you know, when people complain about machines taking over jobs that people
did, you know, sometimes it's a really good idea.
Yeah, no one was complaining about this one.
No, some of their early clients were the Boston Bruins and the Chicago Blackhawks of the
NHL figure skater Sonia Hintey, of course.
And in 1967, they said things are going so well, we're going to open up a second factory
in Ontario because they were turning out those Zambonies at a pretty good clip even though
it's the kind of thing that requires a lot of maintenance though.
It's usually the kind of thing you hope to buy once.
Yeah, and one of the things that it seems to have really kind of boosted the company's
images, they were the official ice resurverser for the 1960 Winter Olympics in Squaw Valley.
And that really, I think, kind of sealed the deal for everybody.
And then they also were, they went to the Soviet Union with ice capades in 1967 too.
So the 60s were a big decade for the Zambonie company.
Should we take a break?
Yeah, because we're going to come back because there's plenty of decades after the 60s.
That's right.
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So since those early Zambonies, they've changed quite a bit, ice resurfaces in general over
the years.
It's gotten better and better, they're still making improvements.
There's one coming down the pike soon that's even more advanced than the last.
Oh yeah.
Oh sure, they're always trying to make these things a little bit better, run a little cleaner.
That's so Zamboni.
So how these things actually work is exactly how they did it by hand, but a machine is doing
it.
You're basically just giving the surface of the ice a shave with a blade.
The blade is about 77 to 96 inches depending on the size of the machine.
And the NHL says, just give me a real close trim, like a one thirty second of an inch down.
You don't have to scrape too much.
And the total ice from an NHL rink, let's say that you would scrape off is about 60 cubic
feet.
Yes.
And on either side of the blade are up to four comfort strips that give a close and
comfortable shave.
Not buying that one.
So that's generally like the main thing that's going on and you're trimming the ice.
But the problem is when you trim ice, there's still little divots.
It's just, it's not smooth necessarily.
It's just uniform.
So what the Zamboni does is it sprays water out in front of the blade and that water is
picked up by the Zamboni itself kind of mixed up, I think with the water or the snow that
it picks up or the ice it generates, you just call it snow.
And then out of the rear, they put down new water, warm water that remotes the ice and
then they have essentially a squeegee at the back that smooths the whole thing over.
Which if that sounds familiar, that is what humans did.
They just figured out how to put all those things into a machine.
Yeah.
And you know what?
It's even better than that.
Okay.
Because that snow that they're picking up gets melted and goes into a tank and gets
washed to be reused.
It's a beautifully elegant sort of closed loop system.
That makes sense because it's, you're cleaning up the ice, you're collecting it as snow
as ice shavings and then you're laying down more water to re-freeze.
It would make sense to just make the whole thing as close to system as possible.
Yeah.
And they're heavy.
If it's full of water, again, depending on the machine, you can go anywhere between 7000
to 11000 pounds total weight.
And they hold it anywhere from 210 or so to about 265 gallons of water.
Yeah.
One of the things you said that they are always kind of innovating.
One of the things that's really become a thing in ice resurfacing world is electric
ice resurfacers, which is a really good step forward because most of the time they're
resurfacing ice in an enclosed ice rink.
And if you've ever been to like a skating rink when they're resurfacing the ice, then
it's not an electric sand bony.
Yeah.
I played hockey for a couple of years.
Okay.
So you know, the whole place stinks of car exhaust and somehow hot pretzels.
I don't know how every single ice rink in the world smells like the hot pretzels that
they sell.
It's for some reason really carries.
It's a very distinct smell.
I love it.
Interesting.
I never noticed that.
Check it out next time I'll bet you'll be like, oh my god, it really smells like hot pretzels
in here.
I haven't skated in a while.
I got pretty good for a little while, but it's been a minute.
Did you?
Yeah.
We got into it locally here like a friend of mine worked at a rink.
And they had called it stick time, which is basically like after hours, hockey players
could pay like 10 bucks to go up there and just play like pick up games.
And so we all kind of got into it and got gear and I was never any good at it, but I got
to where I could skate a little bit and move around a little bit.
Yeah, it's very hard.
I was a shameful skater considering I grew up in Ohio where it ponds just froze completely
solid all the time.
Yeah.
It's like, I guess.
So Zamboni, we mentioned it being a proprietary eponym.
That kind of gibbeth and take it the way because it's great when people just call any ice
resurfacer as Zamboni.
Not so great when you don't win the contract to the winter Olympics, which is what happened
in 2010 in Vancouver when those Olympia machines won the contract and those machines malfunctioned.
And all over the news, they're talking about the fact that the Zamboni started working.
Yeah.
And Zamboni actually released a press release saying like, hey, those are not Zamboni brand
machines.
And in fact, Zamboni's got trucked in to finish the job after the Olympia machines to
stopped working.
I guess it was just a catastrophe.
I read an interview from the time and it was like, like, this is, you're on the world
stage and your stuff is not working well.
So the Olympics are on hold right now because your machine isn't doing the job.
I was trying to picture a press conference instead of just a press release where they were
like, you know, we shut down now.
We want to make it clear.
These are not Zambonis.
These are just these are ice resurfacers.
They are not Zambonis.
And the press is like, right, right.
But what's actually wrong with the Zambonis?
They're like, no, no, no, they aren't Zambonis.
Right.
Just over and over and over.
And he gets so frustrated that his nose starts bleeding.
Somebody hand you a Kleenex.
Oh my God.
Amazing.
So Chuck, I say we wrapped this whole one up because we basically reached the end here,
don't you think?
Yeah.
I mean, just we should mention price.
These things are very, very expensive.
The cheapest one that you actually need a tractor to drag this thing around is about
10 grand and I saw Zamboni say that they can go up above 500,000 sometimes.
Wow.
So it's a gold plated one.
If you look up Zamboni price, there are a lot of articles from like smaller towns,
like civic organizations that are saying like, you know, do we have $165,000 to allocate
toward a Zamboni for our city rank?
That's a, I mean, yeah, that's a lot of money.
It's a big expenditure.
You get the most expensive one only functions with A beyond that has been used to wash
Shannon Dowerty's hair.
That's why it's so expensive.
I'm not buying that either.
So I say short stuff out.
What do you say?
I say it's out.
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