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Wait, I'mJosh. There'sCharles.
Wow. This is off to a good startalready.
This is shortstuff. Jerry's heretoo.
Yadayada. Let'sgo.Alright, this is about the POWOlympics.
We're going to hop in the old way back machine and go back to1944.
And Voltenberg in WesternPoland, where Polish military officers were being held captive as POWs by theNazis.
But the Nazis werelike,hey, be glad you're here because it's not sobad.
We treat you guys prettywell.
We adhere to the Geneva Convention for the mostpart, and if you'llnotice, there are no death chambers and things like thathere.
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Treat as well after the war because I think I see where this whole thing'sheaded.
Yeah, did you say that the POWs were allofficers?
Idid.Okay, so that was why this POW camp was called off-log to see off-log is derived from a Germanwar.
I think it might be slang for an officer's prisoncamp.
Yeah, it's kind of like the greatescape.
Okay,sure.Remember, they had it pretty easy in thatcamp.
Right.So,yeah, I think there were a lot of political reasons why they were taking it easy on them and following the GenevaConvention.
But doesn't it just feel dirty to give the Nazis credit foranything?
No, forsure. But I think it was one of those cases where I wasn't really joking when I said they werelike,hey, remember this after the war because they were trying to set themselves up for being treated okay after thewar.
And also to draw comparisons to at the time Russian prison camps and sayinglike, they're the really badones.
This one isn't sobad, specifically here inPoland.
So part of that was allowing an Olympic Games to be held atWaldenburg.
There was a POW Olympics that was organized and carried out in cooperation with the German captors that were supposed to be in London and they got canceled and then popped up again at the Waldenburg POWcamp.
Right.Yeah. I doubt if the real Olympic Games people knew aboutit.
Although you neverknow.
You neverknow. Imean, we know aboutit.
Well, I know that the Chinese held a 1952 POW Olympics at a camp inKorea, NorthKorea, with Korean war captives as a huge propagandacoup.
Like they keptrecords.
They followed the IOC instructions to a T and they let the world know aboutit.
So I wouldn't be surprised if the Nazis told people that this was going on as a PRthing.
Yeah. Since we're talking about other POWOlympics, I got to talk about 1940 because they were supposed to be inTokyo.
World War II was just getting cranking upthere.
So they moved it toHelsinki, Finland and then they canceled thosealtogether.
And there was a German POW camp inLongfasa, Germany thathad, they called it the International Prison of WarGames.
But that one was a little bitdifferent.
That one was insecret. Or would have been penalties by the German captors for holding thatOlympics.
So somehow they managed to pull off a secret Olympics in1940.
Amazing.Yeah. I guess the captors just thought they were watching a basketball game or something likethat.
Yeah,maybe. And that weird Olympic flag with the ringswas, I don'tknow, just forfun.
Yeah. Let's take abreak,Chuck.
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Allright, sogeez, we've now covered very quickly two Olympicgame, POW Olympicgames.
But we're going to go back to the one in 1944 and photo in book becausethey, like yousaid, had the permission of the Nazis to do this and itwas, it kind of became one of those stories of thewar, kind of like the Christmas where the ceasefire happened on ChristmasEve.
Yeah, and they gottogether.
It sort of has that air aboutit.
Man, that's just such an amazingstory.
Itwas. Soyeah, they are probably the most famouslong, long loss or in Waldenburg are about the most famous of all of the POWgames.
So we know the most about them inWaldenburg.
They had a bunch of differentevents.
Like they really kind of followed the Olympics at the time to atee.
There wassoccer, afootball,handball,basketball, track andfield.
But there were some events that they'relike, we're going to draw the line at that because we don't trust youstill.
This is a POWcamp.Yeah, it's prettyfunny.
Ofcourse, they werelike, maybe nothing where you shoot anarrow.
So archery wasout. Theysaid, maybe nothing where you hold asword.
So fencing wasout. Mmhmm.
And then theysaid,wow, we're atit.
Let's get rid of thejavelin.
Because I imagine that would not feel good in thechest.
And it seems to me that practicing for pole vaulting is just another way ofsaying, practicing for getting over that fence overthere.
Right. Tough to slip it past them while you're having anOlympics.
They also had to say noboxing, not because there wasany, they were worried aboutit.
We're getting beaten up by guests by theboxers.
They were worried about the boxers killing one another because theywere,again, even though they wereofficers, these were held in POWcamps.
And so the boxers were essentially too frail tobox.
It was just too dangerous for theboxers.
Yeah. And we can't not mention thegreat, great World War II soccer film Victory with Sylvester Stallone and Michael Cain andPele.
Pele was init. Pele was init.
Neat. What year wasthis?
This is in the80s, but it told the story of a soccer match that was held between the Nazis and thePOWs.
But there was an escape plan at halftime where they were too bustout.
They had people digging in and then we're going to bust into the locker room and get themout.
And I'm not going to spoilit, but let's just say they are faced at halftime with thechoice.
Do we escape during thisgame?
Or do we go back on that field and try and beat the Nazis atsoccer?
Youescape. It'sunequivocal.
Great, greatmovie. One of the great sportsmovies.
It sounds like it was remade as the longestyard.
Isn't that kind of like the plot of thattoo?
Imean,no, it wasn't like aremake, but the longest yardwas, that was the Bert Reynolds football movie aboutprison.
And AdamSandler.Yeah,well, then remade again by AdamSandler.
I don't think there was an escape thing in the longest yard wasthere?
That's what Ithought. That's why I saidthat.
I thought there mightbe, but maybe I just put that in there to entertain myself because I wasbored.
It's been alot. Appreciatethat.
No,no,no. Imean, with themovie, not with youranecdote.
Oh,okay.No, I don't think there was unless I'mwrong.
I think the longest yard was just about a footballgame, but maybewrong.
It's been aminute.Okay.
Well, this conversation isboring.
Let's moveon. It's still inplace, thegoalkeeper.
Does he really chase yourone?
Yeah. Does he take one in theface?
Well, they had to teachhim.
He wasn't very good atit, but they needed him on the escapeteam.
So he was not the most giftedgoalkeeper, but they hadPaley.
And they had all these other English football stars from the time that I didn't knowabout, but my friend Justin'slike,oh, it was Bobbysomething, something andwhatever.
I hadn't realized Paley had been aPOW.
Oh, myGod. You juststopped.
Well, wait aminute. Wait aminute.
Before westop, we have to say that in addition to those likebasketball,handball, track andfield, that kind ofstuff, they actually held cultural events as part of the Olympic competitions at Waldenburg in 1944 for things like sculpture and painting andchess.
And you would just normally thinklike,okay, they were just trying to round some stuffout.
Maybe they were trying to replace the javelin event with somethingelse.
So they came up inchess.
No. From 1912 to1952, the Olympics awarded 151 medals to original works in the finearts.
Like you could go see a sculpture exhibit and a long jump competition in the sameplace, maybe even during that 50 years or 40years.
You could see a sculpturebattle.
A sculptoff.Yeah. I had noidea.
That was sort of my big one takeaway out of this whole thing was that they actually for four decades gave out Olympic medals in thearts.
Yeah. Socool. It is verycool.
It was a surprising little factory that I had not expected to learn from thisone.
Yeah. That in the Pelle was a POW in 1983 orwhatever.
Right. So hats off to everybody who participated in Olympics and POWcamps.
It is kind of a triumph of the humanspirit, you know what Imean?
Totally. That the purest form of Olympiccompetition.
That'sright. And I guess since Chuck is agreeing withme, then we should just go ahead and say the short stuff isout.
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