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Good morning.
This is Laura.
Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast.
Today's episode is going to be a longer one part of the series where I interview fascinating people about how they take their days from great to awesome and any advice they have for the rest of us.
So today I am delighted to welcome Lisa Canning to Before Breakfast.
Lisa is known online as the Possibility Mom.
She helps business owners structure their lives to succeed.
She's also had a varied career in many areas, including design, which I know she will tell us all about.
So Lisa, welcome to the show.
Oh my gosh, it's a pleasure to be here.
Yeah, thanks for joining us.
So why don't you tell our listeners a little bit about yourself?
I have a winding road.
I started out in interior design with the wonderful opportunity to host an HGTV show.
Literally, that was my introduction to both a television career.
Good place to start.
Yeah, not a terrible place to start.
It happened completely by accident, to be very, very frank.
But-
It was exciting.
It was exhilarating.
It turned into a long career in lifestyle TV.
I've worked with many, many well-known names.
And then I had children at the exact same rapid time that my interior design and television career was growing.
I now have a very proud mom of 11 children.
There's no multiples.
These are all the questions I get asked.
Are there multiples?
Are they all yours?
They're all mine.
They're all yours and one at a time.
One at a time.
But, as you can imagine, the pursuit of a very hands-on, very busy interior design career and television career became very quickly unsustainable with how rapid my family was growing.
So I made a very intentional pivot, I guess you could say, where I started making some really significant changes in terms of how I used my time, how I structured my business, the things that I said yes to, the things that I said no to.
People started to notice and started to ask me questions about that.
And that's where life and business coaching began.
So that chapter of my life, I primarily coach Catholic moms.
I'm a Catholic myself.
And I really, I think the...
What I've gotten good at is how to continue moving forward when life feels epically chaotic.
Like if you were to just distill down, because I can teach you how to build a business.
I can teach you how to have good thoughts about yourself, thoughts of self-compassion, positive thoughts about the world.
But if you were to really just kind of put it all through a sieve Laura, I really think it's when things are just so chaotic and seem like you cannot survive.
That's where I've developed some strategies.
All right.
So is your business primarily spent like coaching and speaking and things like that now?
Exactly.
All right.
So that's how you're spending the bulk of your time.
And I'm very curious, I mean, because I see some of your offerings advertised online.
And one thing that one headline that caught my eye was wealth without guilt.
Let's talk.
What is this?
This sounds a little bit like it's bringing in your business owner and Catholic side all together.
So what is this?
When I started as a life coach, I was coaching a lot of faith-based moms who wanted to build businesses, but they felt enormous amounts of guilt around it.
Both around, is this what I should be doing with my time?
So just the concept of, is this how a good mother spends her time?
And then just around money.
Should I pursue wealth?
Is it wrong to get a little bit more money?
Is it wrong to desire getting my nails done?
Or, you know, go on a date with my husband with a little bit more ease.
And so that's where the title Wealth Without Guilt was born.
I just just honestly the many, many conversations with women who didn't feel free to pursue a business or pursue money.
So what do you tell them?
I mean, how do people get over that sort of guilt?
Yeah.
So I'm a Catholic, I discern, I view everything through.
There is a will for your life that is beyond your very narrow focus, right.
When we're stressed, when we're tired, we might just like tunnel vision into that thing that is providing, you know, a lot of, a lot of stress.
I view the world with there is a big picture for us.
There is a great purpose for our life.
And so that's what I tell them.
I tell them that you've got some really unique gifts and talents.
There's something unrepeatable about you.
And you're meant to use those gifts and talents at the service of others.
And so for some people, we're serving primarily in the home.
We're all serving in the home.
But for a lot of people there is a service that is meant to extend perhaps beyond the nuclear family into the local community and even beyond that.
And so it's a disservice, like we're not doing a service to our creator, but as well as to other people, if we're not using those gifts and talents and pursuing them to the best of our abilities, but then, of course, in right order.
And I think going back to my HGTV career, Laura, I had it in wrong order.
I had this idea that the most important thing you will ever do is make money and be successful.
And I knew that family was important.
We all know family is important.
But I could not... reconcile those things practically.
It's like I had both of those priorities very much like in front of me.
But when you saw my choices, I was always picking work, always picking the needs of other people in terms of my professional life, and my family and myself, if I'm being really honest, would constantly go on the back burner.
So that's what I tell the moms that come to me because they're desiring The pursuit of excellence, the pursuit of more money, the pursuit of building something that might have even legacy and generational wealth.
They're pursuing that, but they want that in right order.
But I love that you're saying the two are not actually in conflict, that it is possible to be a successful business owner and loving involved, parent of, in many cases many, many children.
Right.
But there is a very important requirement.
Absolutely.
You can pursue many different things.
Should we all pursue many different things?
No, you've got to discern that.
You've got to like, you know, prayerfully look at your life.
There might be seasons where you aren't as active outside the home.
And then there are seasons when children perhaps are more independent where you might be able to.
But again, big caveat, we're not all designed the same.
But the practical thing that we have to look at is we have a central nervous system.
I cannot emphasize that enough.
We are bodies that get tired, that get taxed, and do need to be refueled.
Part of this might be that I am 41 years old at the time of this recording.
I am in perimenopause time.
So there's all kinds of hormonal changes.
I obviously just had a baby that I'm nursing.
So there's all kinds of things are going on hormonally that I think are making me very interested in this topic.
But we have to acknowledge that we have a central nervous system that cannot run on empty.
And so that has to be taken into account in terms of the things that we put in our calendar.
So yes, all of these things can be pursued, but they have to be pursued in this beautiful holistic lens where you're honoring the fact that we're humans and we also need rest and we also need time to breathe.
And so that has to be looked at in how we make our choices.
Got it.
All right.
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Well, I am back talking with Lisa Canning, who has had a varied career working with HGTV.
She now coaches mostly Catholic moms, you're saying, who are also business owners.
And with 11 kids, I know that there is a lot of organizational strategizing going on in your life.
So I'm hoping you can share some of that wisdom with us right now, because I know when people hear that they're like it must be total chaos.
And I'm guessing that your life is not, in fact, total chaos.
So let's talk about some of the systems that you have going on right now.
I mean, it's often total chaos, just keep it very, very, very real.
But here are some of the things that I have actually, I think, gotten somewhat good at.
And the first concept, I'll go kind of mindset, but then very practical as well.
So protection of time.
So this is a little bit of a mindset approach.
What I've learned is that if I want something to move forward, so for example, weight loss, okay, and healthiness, just like healthiness in general, especially with as many children that I've had, there have got to be certain appointments in my calendar that move that goal forward.
So what does that look like for me?
It's the protection of time to work out.
It's the protection of time to plan and think and cook healthy meals for my family and to shop for said meals right.
So there's times in my calendar where those are protected.
I'm fierce about this with motherhood and marriage as well.
Between 4 and 6 pm, unless it is like absolutely necessary and can't be avoided, that time is absolutely blocked off in my calendar for connecting with my children when they get home from school.
Once those things are in the calendar and protected, and again so mindset you fit in all the other things around.
I mean, this is not a novel concept, but I find that when I let those important things go, I'm not as peaceful.
I feel a lot more guilt.
You know, I can, I'm more reactive.
These really essential components that make me a healthy person but also help me to show up well for my family are just so, so important.
Okay, so that's number one, protecting those key things.
And then number two is then everything else in life that I truly cannot show up for, right?
Like no one, I can't outsource my marriage.
I can't outsource the mothering of my children.
I just cannot, right?
And I can't, no one else can take care of my health.
Like these are such hard concepts that, I don't know, I'm pretty hardheaded, Lord.
I can be very, you know, oh no, somebody else can do that.
No, no one else can do that.
And then it's just a very simple concept of what can then be delegated, automated or simply deleted in specific seasons.
So I do things like grocery delivery.
That's like pretty clutch for me.
And I'm using AI kind of creatively.
Anything clerical that can be sped up through AI.
So for example, I'm doing...
For the holidays.
As you can imagine, with 11 children, I have many different presents and cards and things that I need to fill out.
AI can help you organize all that stuff.
Even putting names of kids on little things you design on Canva.
AI can actually help you so that you're not sitting there doing all that cute stuff yourself.
So delegate, automate, delete all the other things.
Yeah, I love delegate, automate and delete.
But we still have I bet.
I mean, I want to talk some about that, like automation of of various systems.
I mean, like, do you have same things that you eat over and over again?
Is there like certain laundry times and systems?
Let's let's get into all that.
There's I have almost everything on repeating calendar appointments.
So, for example, this is so niche but, like my contact lenses, I have too many things in my brain that I cannot like.
I just cannot hold.
And so anything that could get slipped, so like replacing my contacts monthly.
I can't you expect me to remember what day I'm supposed to change my contacts.
You'd think you'd pick like an easy day, like the first or something, but no, I don't know.
I make my life so complicated but I de-complicate it or I make it less complicated by putting these recurring appointments in my calendar.
I would say that I honestly, I keep it very simple.
I have about five rotating meals and they are honestly designed based on my energy.
So meaning none of them are complicated to cook but, like I'll do some of the more complicated meals that I enjoy doing but need a little bit more languid time on the weekend when there's a little bit more time.
Whereas weeknights, it is so simple.
I used to do a lot of crock pot cooking and that would free up my time and energy, but truly just...
Anything that you can put on repeat, like anything in my life that can be put on repeat is on repeat.
Groceries are basically on repeat.
And even the way I entertain, so we love to have people over.
I basically cook the same meal when I entertain.
Laundry is pretty much daily, but again, everything is on.
It's often habit stacked with something else.
So, coming home from school, it's my automatic, after I've dropped off the kids from school, to walk into my laundry room and run a load.
Like it's become so second nature at this point, habit stacking many things together.
And I'm sure some of your kids need to contribute to all this too, right?
You have.
At least the older ones are able to function as sort of people.
Things could be delegated to, I would imagine.
And I'll just be very honest, all of that is also very repeatable.
So every child has the exact same chore in the morning and in the evening.
And there's often fights about it.
Like they're like, why do I have to do the dishwasher every time?
I'm like, listen, this is just how it's happening.
This is how we are being set up for success in our family.
I'll tolerate like, They'll switch chores with each other sometimes, whatever.
But that's negotiated on their own.
I was going to say, that's like employees at a restaurant trading shifts, right?
Because one can't make it.
It's still, they got to deal with it.
But is it?
One kid empties the dishwasher every morning and somebody else has a different chore every morning.
Or is there a rotation there?
No, it's literally like one child empties the dishwasher, the other child... fills the dishwasher.
There's a child to wipe all counters.
There's a child to sweep.
I've got all kinds, all ages, all stages.
I have some kids who change diapers.
That's like their job in the morning.
Make sure that child has a clean diaper.
And it's I wouldn't say it's like perfect or it's peaceful, but what it is is expectations have been set.
I really think that's what it is, Laura.
When people ask me, I don't understand how do you survive?
You must be so like overwhelmed.
And again, it is chaotic.
It is overwhelming at times.
But everyone has an expectation in the family for what it looks like to contribute and to have our household be successful.
And that expectation has been set and it's reinforced.
I'm sure that it works in some families to do chore charts that are cute and you rotate a wheel and you move it around.
That's great.
In my family, with as many moving pieces as I have, it doesn't work for me.
The expectation is clear and it's repeatable.
Yeah.
Well, I've certainly found I mean, my family is nowhere near as large as yours but especially with my youngest kid, I found things were actually easier because I had older children who you know could pinch hit in the moment.
And, like you know, I could run somewhere for 20 minutes and leave a kid with.
You know, the little guy with the older siblings.
And it was great.
It was like, oh, I have I have more kids. help with that.
Now, I'm curious though, I mean, there's always one-off things, right?
I mean, you know, things can be repeatable, but then, like I don't know, four of the kids are in band or something and they have a concert this week and it's a new thing that has come in.
Do you have a planning time where you look at these one-off aberrations that are not so easy to just set up on automated systems?
I learned this a really long time ago.
And that's just simply to look at your calendar for the week ahead.
And so on Sunday evenings is typically when I do it.
And it is to point like truly the specific goal for me of the look ahead is what is an anomaly.
And then you're planning for, okay, maybe that evening then I do need to pick up dinner.
So forget the simple meal, I'm picking up dinner.
Or even like we have a cleaner that's on repeat, okay?
Our cleaner comes every two weeks, it's set and forget.
But there might be weeks where you know oh, I have somebody coming over for the weekend, like my mom's coming to watch the kids on the weekend.
It actually would be helpful if the cleaner got there on Friday so that the bedroom and the bathroom is all clean.
You know that kind of thing.
So there might be things that need to be shifted, given these unique situations.
So I learned that a really long time ago and it is a really, really good practice again for the practical things.
But We cannot forget, I'm a mindset coach, so I'm always going to go this.
The ability to create really great thoughts for yourself.
To be able to look at a week and be like, where am I going to need like Lisa at her best?
Where is there going to be time in the week where, okay, you can just chill?
You know, where do we know, oh my gosh, I have this to look forward to.
And so you can create the thoughts and the energy and the margin if needed to support yourself to show up in your best way.
Absolutely.
All right.
We're going to take one more quick ad break and then we will be back with more from Lisa Canning.
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In April 2024, a fertility clinic in Nashville shut down overnight, and trapped behind locked doors were more than a thousand frozen embryos.
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At that point, it didn't occur to me what fight was going to come to follow.
But this story isn't just about a few families' futures.
It's about whether the promise of modern fertility care can be trusted at all.
It doesn't matter how much I fight.
It doesn't matter how much I cry over all of this.
It doesn't matter how much justice we get.
None of it's going to get me pregnant.
Listen to What Happened in Nashville on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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It's not just a city.
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Well, I am back with Lisa Canning.
We are talking organizational strategies with her household of many.
But let's talk a little bit about Christmas, because even something like making a Christmas gift list or a Christmas budget is just a different matter when you have so many people.
So I am curious how far ahead that tends to start and what the holiday planning process looks like for you.
I used to do holidays really last minute.
And if I'm honest, obviously, sometimes things happen where things are last minute.
But more and more, I am tending towards how can I actually get it all done in November?
So this will be the first year where I actually, I think I'm going to try to wrap.
I'm going to try to do everything, like literally everything that I possibly can put it all in a massive like I don't know where I'm going to store it.
That's the problem.
I have no idea where I'll store all this, but I will figure that out.
But I'm going to attempt to get everything done in November.
But a couple of things that I do have is everything is in a Google Sheet.
So I have records of what I've gotten my children for the last I don't know, maybe 10 years, in a Google Sheet with prices and with categories.
So I tend to get everybody gets something to wear.
Everybody usually gets a book and then everybody gets something kind of fun.
And that's been just so helpful because I can do a lot of the planning in advance.
I can shop Black Friday sales and, you know, just get it done.
And that's also how I stay in budget.
So I swear by this Google Sheet that I've created.
Google Sheets are very helpful.
And just out of curiosity, are you aiming for the same dollar amount for each kid?
Yeah. do my children listen to this podcast?
So okay, very, very honest.
The little kids who are unaware of what things cost are not proportionate to the price that I spend.
The dollar amount that I spend on their older teenagers, like like their siblings, who are teenagers.
So I mean, it is pretty and I'll be very transparent.
It's stark like like, it's like.
I think I literally spent on my two-year-old last year 25 like literally, whereas the teenagers are getting into the 200 250 type of realm.
In my family, if this is interesting to people, we do, or at least last year, we did group gifts.
So the older kids got a bigger gift, and then they got a few small things to open.
And then the younger kids got a group gift, and then a few small things open.
And then something we did last year that I anticipate we do this year again, is a trip.
So just some type of experience.
Last year, we went to go see a beautiful concert in a town not too far away.
So nothing extravagant necessarily, but we value experience.
And again, in a family as large as mine, it also is just kind of practical.
It's like we all get to enjoy it.
It's all somewhat, you know, age appropriate for all.
And we create fun memories.
I love that.
And the group gift idea is fascinating.
I ponder that one.
We'll see if maybe we'll make that happen this year.
So Lisa, I always ask my guests this question.
What is something you have done recently to take a day from great to awesome?
So I am a Catholic.
My faith informs everything I do, right?
So for me, going from great to awesome is really taking time to reflect and contemplate.
When I look back on my 41 years of life like truly, if I were to evaluate it, like just from a really like 20000 view, you know kind of lens, it's the times where I was not rushing.
It was the times where I was not making decisions based out of fear.
The times when I didn't let the urgent win and I trusted that there would be enough time.
That sentence I just said, like, that's what great to awesome means for me.
Because again, you can imagine like if I'm being really transparent on the other side of you know what viewers and what listeners cannot see is like three piles of unfolded laundry.
I could get very stressed about that.
And sometimes I do.
But what great to awesome looks like for me is this peaceful, deliberate confidence that there are going to be like there is time for the things that truly matter in this moment.
So right now that's talking to you.
And there will be time for the unfolded laundry.
And what's great to awesome truly is when I don't feel any type of tension between literally any of my competing priorities.
And for me what that looks like is walking in contemplation, taking that time to pray And having a deliberate posture of I'm making time for what truly matters right this moment.
And I trust that the rest will get done.
Absolutely.
Or the laundry won't get folded.
We put a lot of things in the drawers, not folded.
It turns out that a lot of kids shorts and shirts and things like that, you know, whatever.
It'll be okay.
Sweatpants.
You know what I want to do one day when I renovate my like dream home?
I think I'm going to do a communal closet.
Everyone just goes in and finds what they can.
No, you just go from the laundry room to this huge closet.
Check back with me and see if I've done it one day.
As a concept.
All right.
Giant group closet.
Love it.
Lisa, what are you looking forward to right now?
I love the holiday season so I am truly looking forward to.
You know, times by a roaring fireplace, times just very aimless with a hot beverage, watching the snowfall.
And the time that you get to spend a little bit unplugged.
I'm really looking forward to that this holiday season.
Wonderful.
Well, Lisa, where can people find you?
Oh, come join the party at.
Lisa Canning on Instagram is where you can see the journey of my 11 gorgeous kids and what it's like to juggle multiple businesses, multiple passions and multiple children.
And then my website, lisacanning.ca.
Wonderful.
Well, Lisa, thank you so much for joining us.
Thank you to everyone for listening.
If you have feedback on this or any other episode, you can always reach me at laura, at lauravandercamcom.
In the meantime, this is Laura.
Thanks for listening.
And here's to making the most of our time.
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My new podcast What Happened in Nashville tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed.
It doesn't matter how much I fight.
It doesn't matter how much I cry over all of this.
It doesn't matter how much justice we get.
None of it's going to get me pregnant.
Listen to What Happened in Nashville on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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