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Hey, it's your friend Mel and I'm so glad that you're here with me today so that you and I can spend some timetogether.
It is always an honor to be able to be withyou.
And I just want to acknowledge you for choosing to listen to something today that could help you create a more meaningfullife.
And if you're a newlistener, welcome to the Mel Robbins podcastfamily.
I am so glad that you're here and you're going to be glad that you tuned in to listen to this episode because you're going to be learning from a fascinating person today with such a unique life experience who is so much to teachyou.
Evie Pomporis is a former special agent with the US Secret Service who has served during the presidential administrations of President BillClinton, President GeorgeW.
Bush, and President BarackObama.
She has also served on the Secret Service Details Protecting FormerPresidents, GeorgeH.
W. Bush and GeraldFord.
Her extensive and decorated career includes operatingundercover, complex criminalinvestigations.
She was an interrogator for the Secret Services Elite PolygraphUnit, which means she has been specifically trained in the art of liedetection, humanbehavior, and cognitiveinfluence.
She is also a best-selling author and professor of criminaljustice.
You might even recognize Evie because when criminal cases grab the world's attention or breaking news makes us all wonder who's telling thetruth.
Every single news network on the planet has Evie on speed dial to analyze body language and critical verbal cues thatsuspects,politicians, and celebrities are sending so that you can tell when someone'slying.
It's a real honor to have Evie here because Evie has received the United States Secret Service Valor Award for Actions as a first responder during the 9-11 terror attacks on the World Trade Center in New YorkCity.
And I am so excited and grateful that she has made the trip to our studios here in Boston to give you a masterclass from over three decades of decoding body language for some of the most elite law enforcement agencies in the UnitedStates.
Evie, welcome to the Mel Robbinspodcast.
Thank youMel. I have been admiring you from afar and online like a stalker that the Secret Service would takeout.
I'm so glad to be sitting here withyou.
I'm veryhumbled, veryhumbled.
Thank you for sayingthat.
Here's where I want tostart.
Could you tell the person that is listening to us rightnow?
How does learning the skills that you're going to talk about like knowing when somebody's lying to you or displayingconfidence?
How does that change yourlife?
So all thesethings,confidence, readingpeople, that initself, it makes you steady and makes yougrounded.
So I think that that's where a lot of this is going to lead peopleto.
A lot of the stuff I sure are things that were taught to me by very exceptional people that helped me on my path and still helped me to thisday.
You have a remarkablecareer.
So when you were a littlegirl, were youlike, I want to be in the SecretService?
No,no. Like I waslike, I'd get pulled over by cops andlike, who's thisbow,though?
Literally in myhead. I may have even verbalizedit.
No, didn't know anything about lawenforcement.
My family was not in it atall.
I know sometimes people have aplan.
I never had aplan. How did you even get into thiscareer?
So they was on thesubway.
I'm going downtown Manhattan to job that I got right out ofcollege.
It was underwriting forAIG.
I don't know if they're still out there if youare.
I'msorry. But not forme.
I was in a cubicle sitting there and I'm thinkinglike, I can't dothis.
And so the subway doors openliterally.
Maybe I'm on that job severalweeks, twomonths.
Someway doorsopen, cops hangingout.
His beer belly because back then they had beerbellies.
I see the guy I'mlike, I can do thatliterally.
And so I go home that night to went torecruit.
I callhim. Icall.Hello.
You guyshiring? No clue what I wasdoing.
Zero. And I just went withit.
I so one thing I've never been afraid to just go and figure itout.
That's how my journeystarted.
Fromthere, I waslike,oh,Mac, maybe I could doFBI,DEA,CIA.
Actually, it's all ofthat.
Secret service was the one who hired mefirst.
What I find fascinating about that story is that everybody who doesn't feel like they're in the right place in their life thinks that you're supposed to know what youwant.
And oftentimes I find it's just knowing what you don'twant.
And you knew I don't want to be in thatcubicle.
And I love the metaphor of the door's opening because I think your life can change likethat.
Oh myGod. I even think of that with the door'sopening.
Yeah. And you walked throughit.
And I would imagine that what you would see over and over and overagain, both in your training for the secretservice.
And as you were an agent working on some of these elite units in the secret service that things do change in aninstant, which is why it is so important to take everything that you're about to teach us today toheart.
What are some of the big takeaways that you have that are important when it comes to the way that a US president or somebody at that level of success and power thinks andacts.
So I was very lucky because I was around three current sittingpresidents.
I started when Clinton was actually stillpresident.
