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We are getting ready to plan some travel for the holidays and so we've started to look on Airbnb.
We love to stay at an Airbnb because when you travel with children and your family it is nice to have a kitchen.
It's nice to have you all in one area.
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Tell me more. I will.
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Oh really? Yeah think about someone who's frequently traveling.
You know? Yeah. While they're away their homes making them money.
That's pretty sweet.
I know. That's very Schrute Farms of them.
Although Dwight doesn't leave. That's true and if you did leave you'd be stuck with Moe's.
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We had a bunch of fantastic background catches in this episode you guys are so on top of it and I have some candy bag alts to share.
I will start with a background catch in this breakdown we read out a list of Jim's pranks and we talk about how one of our favorites is when Jim says he puts nickels in Dwight's phone receiver to make it really heavy and then he takes them all out and then Dwight hits himself in the head with the phone.
Yes. Well we got some mail with a really fun background catch. A few of you pointed this out, so we wanted to share, if you go all the way back to the pilot episode, you see Dwight unlock his desk drawer and inside is the phone headset.
I know. That's so cool.
And you all wrote in and said that is probably because of the time that he hit himself in the head with it, so now he started locking it up so that Jim can't mess with him.
I love it. Also, do you guys remember how Pam changes her mind about inviting Angela to her wedding to Roy?
Pam says she didn't have Angela's zip code and she gives her a handwritten invitation.
Remember that? Yes.
And then Angela has this talking head in the kitchen and she kind of judges the Save the Date.
She's a little snarky.
Well there were some candy bag alts for that talking head.
We didn't share them on our first breakdown.
They're Angela has the saved the date in her hand, looks to camera and says, Hand delivered.
Gloating a bit. Phyllis got a mass mailing.
Oh, so she felt superior that she had hand -delivered.
The next talking head says Angela, in parentheses, the martyr.
Obviously it means a lot to Pam, so I guess I'll find a way to be there.
Next one. Oh, I'll be there, but she may have to wait a while for the RSVP. Okay.
last one, she's been at that computer with all the address labels in it for five years and she couldn't find my zip code?
She'll make one heck of a wife that's for sure.
Wow, a real variety.
Mm -hmm. Well we got a lot of mail about that save the date because Angela when you hold it up it says location TBD mm -hmm but in the episode Dwight speech which is four episodes before conflict resolution Pam says that the wedding is at the VA because Roy has a connection there.
Remember, there's a scene in the kitchen and Kelly asked Pam about it.
Kelly says, why'd you pick the VA for the reception?
And Pam says, Roy has a connection.
It's nicer than you think.
And then Ryan says, are you inviting Jim?
And Pam says, of course, he's one of my closest friends.
Oh, right. And then Kelly and Ryan have a look.
Yes. So here is the question.
We know that Pam didn't even want to invite Angela, right, because she couldn't quote unquote find her zip code.
Right. And then when she does give her a save the date, she puts TBD, is Pam ever gonna really tell Angela where this wedding is?
Maybe not. I mean Pam did say, you know, it's my wedding and I don't want to invite someone who's called me a hussy.
So maybe she just gives her the, maybe she's hoping Angela will forget about it.
Doesn't follow up. But I thought that was a good catch. That is a really good catch, especially since she's already said where the wedding is gonna be.
Yes, four weeks ago.
We also found out what happened to the baby jazz poster, which is at the heart of this conflict and conflict resolution.
So you know, the original from the set was auctioned off at that big NBC auction where they sold everything.
Wow. It sold for $355.
But if you really love it, you guys, there's a ton of different versions of it online.
You can find it in so many places.
Zazzle, Redbubble, Etsy, it's out there.
I would kind of love to walk into someone's house and just see that baby jazz poster like framed above their couch. So like framed really nice like matting like the whole thing.
Exactly, finally before we go I just really loved this note from Ambus Hunter the fourth who said, I am an alternate dispute resolution mediator with the Department of the Navy and we use clips from this episode to display ways not to handle mediation during our certification classes.
Oh my gosh the The Department of the Navy uses office clips.
Well, I'm glad we could be of service.
Yes. And now, here is our breakdown of conflict resolution.
I'm Jenna Fischer. And I'm Angela Kinsey.
We were on The Office together.
And we're best friends.
And now, we're doing the Ultimate Office rewatch podcast just for you.
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Hello, everyone, and welcome to Conflict Resolution.
I'm talking to you from my closet today.
I know we're both in our closets today.
What is happening? We're both talking to each other from our closets, and Sam and Cody are watching.
I'm looking at Cody's cat.
Love it. Sam's dog is somewhere there.
This is where we're at now, folks.
Angela, your shirts are very well folded.
Are those Josh's shirts?
No, baby girl. Baby girl.
Are we doing that again this week?
We are. Here's the thing.
I started every morning by talking to my family in Texas and Louisiana, and then it just is kind of with me for the whole day.
This is my closet. My own closet.
I share it with no one.
It is a personal life victory.
Oh, my gosh. I only get one side of a closet.
We have one closet and I get one side and Lee gets the other, although to be honest, I think I have encroached on about a third of his side.
Well Josh has his own closet but one wall of it is my shoes.
This is the riveting content that people tuned in for.
I know, I know. Listen, but just bear with me one second, here is a perk of not growing since like your junior year of school.
Maybe a little wider in some places.
But I've had the same shoe size since...
Angela, you're describing most adults.
I mean, most adults hit their peak height somewhere around their junior senior year of high school.
It's not like, it's not like other people are continuing to grow four or five inches in their 20s and 30s.
Do you have the same size foot as like when you were a sophomore?
Of course. You do? Yeah, I've been a seven and a half medium since like, you know, junior year of school.
I was fully grown when I went to college.
I was fully grown oh I unzipped my hoodie.
It sounded like a toot, it sounded like you tooted.
It was. It's good that you're claiming that you unzipped your hoodie.
It was! Oh my gosh I see how it is.
So we're here it's conflict resolution day if you can't tell.
It's season two episode 21 written by Greg Daniels and directed by Charles McDougall action song this is a really really fun one for me and I I love Charles and he and I got to play a lot in this episode because guess what Angela Martin has a lot of conflicts should I give a summary yes all right so there are two main things that happened in this episode one everyone at Dunder Mifflin is being issued an ID badge so one by one people go into the breakroom and have their photo taken for their badge.
And then, secondly, Michael takes the stack of employee complaints from Toby and starts trying to resolve them one by one by forcing people to confront one another at work.
Yeah. So I have one little thing about this episode.
So Dwight is going on and on about how horrible the security is at the office, right, at Dunder Mifflin.
We get these badges, we never wear them again.
No. Well, you know, there's this deleted scene where it's supposedly the next day and we're all walking in in the morning and we all have our badges on.
And Hank is in the scene and Hank keeps insisting that Dwight show his ID badge.
And he pretends like he can't read it.
And then Dwight misses the elevator.
So I guess we wore them once for a tag that never aired.
Right, but no, we don't ever, you know, it's sort of the casual Friday of it all.
is right it really is yeah it really is it really look Jen I brought it back to Casual Friday for you appreciate that I really appreciate that are you gonna hit me with some fast yeah I am I'm gonna hit you with some fast facts can I get my sting yeah that's from ddb by the way I did not give him a shout -out last week so I wanted to do that this week he's a sound engineer who sent us that sting thank you so much for that sting it does make me feel like I'm like in a 1980s game show or something.
I love it! All right.
Fast fact number one, we have a special guest star in this episode playing the ID badge photographer.
It is Scott Atsit. Scott Atsit!
I love this fellow so much. I've known him a really long time.
He's an improv bud of mine back from the Improv Olympic days.
And I was texting with him last night.
I told him we were watching this episode.
And, um he had some fun things to say.
Do you want to hear them?
You know I do. Scott Atsett is an amazing improviser, performer, comedian.
You might know him from 30 Rock.
Also your children know him as Baymax!
He's Baymax and big hero 6!
Anyway, ok, that's my Baymax, Scott.
You do it much better.
So here's a little behind the scenes tidbit that he shared with me that he remembers from filming this episode.
episode, he said he remembers that Ricky Gervais came to visit set this week and everyone was abuzz.
He said that Ricky seemed delighted and surprised by the scale of the production of our set and everything compared to maybe what his production of it had been like in the UK.
And he said that Ricky was just very humble and sweet.
Oh my gosh, I did not remember that Ricky visited during this episode.
I mean, he popped by In -N -Out those first couple seasons.
you know but Scott remembered meeting him and he just said that he was just really nice oh my gosh that's like a fast fact within a fast fact what that's a double fast fact did I help you get a double fast you did you did Angela I have a fun fact within this fast fact both you and Scott have appeared in two episodes of the TV show monk I was in one episode yes and I played the murderer Well Scott was on seasons three and four, so between the two of you you cover four seasons of Munk.
Congratulations! That's my fun fact.
Munk was so much fun to shoot and Tony Shalhoub was the nicest. We sat on like a little bench in between scenes and he was throwing something to try to get it in the trash can it was it like and when it hit the trash can it made like a ping long and I started laughing and he started laughing and I said I mean that was kind of a funny noise and then the two of us sat there and did our impressions of the noises of things going in the trash can like ...
and we cracked up I don't know he's just so fun I just adored him.
That fast fact was just chock full of fun and fast facts.
That was a very full fast fact.
It was a full fast fact.
It was a full, fun double fast fact.
Fantastically fun full fast fact.
Oh, my gosh. Fast fact number two.
OK, fast fact number two is a fan question from Zach Akers.
And here's what he wrote in to say, why does Jim do his talking heads in front of the outside facing window while everyone else's talking heads are inside of the window that faces the bullpen of the office.
He says, in Boo's Cruise and some later episodes, there are Jim Pam talking heads in front of the outside window, but neither Pam nor anyone else normally sits in front of that outside window.
And then he noticed because Jim has several talking heads in this one, he was like, it's really prominent in this episode that Jim is there.
So I thought that was a great question and such a wise observation I had to investigate.
No, that is a great catch. It really is.
So I emailed Greg Daniels and I asked him, was this deliberate?
Was this an accident?
What does he have to say?
And he said that it was something that Randall Einhorn, our cinematographer, suggested to Greg starting with the pilot.
it. And Greg absolutely loved it.
He said Randall's intention here was that it didn't necessarily have to be only Jim.
But the idea was that any character that had a future outside of Dunder Mifflin or held some sort of internal optimism would sit in front of a window leading out into the world.
But characters who didn't want to leave Dunder Mifflin or who maybe were in more of a position of being trapped, would do their talking heads facing into the office.
Wow. That's so deep.
That's really deep.
Yeah. I'm sitting here racking my brain to think if my character ever sat on that other wall with the window facing out behind her.
And the one that comes to my mind and I think it might be the only one, I'm trying to think if there's any other one, it was when you and I did Big Pregg's Little Preggs.
Yeah, we did. I think it's the only time I ever sat there.
Well, for a very long time I only sat there if I was with Jim.
Wow. Which was really the only possible future for Pam outside of the office.
Wow. I think, you know, Isn't that crazy?
Isn't that crazy, but otherwise she was rather trapped in her, you know, bad decision of being with Roy.
Trapped or content, you know?
I mean, some of us were just happy with our lot in life.
Well that is fascinating and I like it.
Yeah, I thought that was a good one.
So thank you so much Zach for pointing that out and writing in.
Now finally fast fact number three, Angela, it's a fast fact flashback.
What are you doing?
What is up? Are you drunk?
So here is this fast fact.
This episode was filmed during May 2006 and so Angela, my question for both of us is what What were you doing, flashback, now to May 2006, and what were you up to?
Well, I had a journal entry from May 3rd, 2006.
This is what I wrote.
I wrote that I was doing a photo shoot with my cat, Lucy, for Cat Fancy magazine.
Angela Kinsey. What?
Shut the front door right now.
What? Do you know what I wrote in my journal?
No. For this week of May.
what up 2006? I did a photo shoot with my cat Andy for People magazine I'm not joking lady lady how did we not know that we did a shoot with our cats at this cute time.
What is happening? I feel like we probably at the time knew but it's hilarious to me for us to both share our journal entries from early may 2006 and we were both so tickled that we were taking photos with our cats, oh my gosh.
First of all, this is why we're BFFs, all right?
This is why our life has very strange ways that it is parallel.
So, was Lucy on the cover of Cat Fancy?
No, Lucy was not on the cover because she was a rescue, she was not a purebred cat, but also Jenna Cat Fancy doesn't let humans on the cover so that's like it's only cat's on the cover okay but the cool thing was is that Lucy and I got like I think I mean I saved the magazine I think we got like four pages so Lucy and I are in the center I guess for the center fold oh you are the center fold of Cat Fancy magazine so Lucy and I look amazing it there's some of the best pictures I feel like I have how was she during the photo shoot well yeah I probably give you some backstory about Lucy.
Lucy loved to sleep.
So, Lucy did nothing.
Lucy just laid there and I mean Lucy is I love her she RIP Lucy.
She had a great long life but she really just loved to lounge.
She was a lounger. So, I in many shots I'm just laying next to her because that's like her favorite thing to do.
But what about you?
What was your People Magazine shoot like with Andy.
Okay well Andy was also magazine guys came over not only were they all there kind of causing a ruckus you know and Andy was a little bit like I'm out of here they wanted to do the photo shoot outside and they wanted me to hold him forget it mine was inside Oh my gosh Angela I mean like full hair and makeup with this dress on they were like okay we're ready for you will you come out with Andy so I'm holding Andy and I think if you look in the photo you can see that he and I are both a little tense but I'm smiling super big as if I'm not tense.
And I wrote in my journal, Angela, I wrote in my journal that he clawed my stomach and I had like, like bloody claw marks in my stomach from the photo shoot because he wanted to get away.
Aww, Lady! I can't believe that we both did cat photo shoots in May of 2006 and also that we both wrote about it in our journals and also that our experiences were so vastly different I I do remember like calling my mom and I was so excited because I hadn't really been in any magazines ever obviously in my whole life and I was like mom I'm gonna be in Cat Fancy and my mom was like what?
I was like me and Lucy mom!
Anyway that is so cute I love that now I really want to See, I remember you doing that, but now I need to see the picture.
Okay, well I have a ton of makeup on, just a ton of makeup and I'm smiling in a really weird maniacal way.
And I called my mom after that photo shoot, Angela, and my mom was so sweet, she was like, oh, I am just so proud of you both, just so proud of you both!
She's like, just think about that little kitten that you found in that dumpster in Kirksville, Missouri.
He drove all the way to Los Angeles with you, onto the pages of People Magazine.
What a life you've given him.
That is so adorable.
That is such a mob moment.
Oh my lord. I know.
Well that's it. That's the end.
That was my third fast fact.
Fast fact flashback.
I like it. Those were really fun.
Alright guys well maybe we should take a break and then we'll come back to break down this episode of Conflict Resolution.
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I'm not the only person who noticed this, because Molly Nett also would like to know, Angela.
Um, probably because that copier didn't work.
Really? There was always a catch to that copier.
One time I made copies and I had to hold the side of it like shut.
Um, I think that they didn't want me to shut it.
That would have been specific.
That would have been Charles McDougal as a director.
He really had his eye on everything.
So there was definitely a reason to that either a if I shut it, it wouldn't work because the copier was a hundred years old, or they wanted that light that's like pans across the copier.
Maybe they liked the effect, but it was a thought out thing.
I'm sure of that. All right, but it wasn't like Angela Martin's like character choice.
So it's like I only photocopy with a blinding light in my face.
Um, so after you copy with the copier open, Pam is over at her desk and she's doing her wedding planning, and Kevin asks if his band can play in the wedding.
But Kevin is doing something that is such a pet peeve of mine.
Like anyone that walks up and starts tapping a table or thumping on something, I want to like break their fingers.
It makes me crazy. You don't like - Do you like, I can't take it.
Who likes that? Who likes that?
Some people are like oblivious, oblivious.
Like you can like walk by and be like, and they're like, whatever, but you do that around me.
And I'm like, what is your problem?
You know what I don't love?
Whistling. People who walk around just, yeah.
Yeah. I can't. Yeah.
Sorry whistlers. All right, so we find out that Pam did not invite Angela to her wedding.
And this is because she doesn't want anyone there who's called her a hussy.
Angela, in the background of my talking head, where I'm talking about you calling me a hussy, you're eating in the kitchen.
At 45 seconds, you seem like you are really eating.
Were you hungry? Um, I remember - Guys, check it out 45 seconds, Angela is scarfing down whatever her food is in the background.
In the scene, they let me eat a bagel.
I was really excited, whenever I got to eat something like that, I was like, yeah, I'll eat that whole bagel.
Give me some cream cheese butter.
I'm, I'm here. That's the cold open, right?
We come back, the episode opens with a Michael talking head and Phyllis getting her photo taken.
and this is the scene where we find out that everyone's being photographed for their new ID badge.
And in the deleted scenes, if you get the DVDs for this, this is a particularly great DVD.
So disc four in the DVD set, disc four has commentary, it has deleted scenes, it has a blooper reel, it has fake PSAs we did, it has Olympic promos we did, it has the accountants, the webisode series which won an Emmy yeah so it's got this is a very good disc Jenna and I make no money off this I'm just telling you if you're an office fan this is a great disc but there was a deleted scene that I thought was really interesting it was a Michael talking head and it kind of sets up the whole episode yeah if I know what you're talking about in fact I also just want to say before you explain this I thought
that the deleted scenes from this episode played like a mini episode.
Did you find that? Yeah.
Because they start with this like what you're talking about they start with this amazing talking head for Michael.
Exactly. So Michael is talking about how, well one of the things is he hates it when people have something wrong and they won't tell you what's wrong.
Mhm. And he says my dad would do that all the time and I would look at him and I'd say Dad what's wrong Dad was wrong Dad was wrong Dad was wrong.
I would do it over and over and he would just look at me like I was an That's what he says.
Poor Michael. And then he also has a scene with Ryan where he is saying that it's just another kind of boring day.
Nothing's going to happen.
And he's talking about how on Big Brother they tackle really important things, you know, every week.
But I guess that's not real life.
And he, you can tell that Michael wants to feel accomplished in this day.
He wants to feel like he made a difference.
Well, I think that deleted scene is a great way that we motivate Michael's whole desire to take over the conflict resolution in the office for the day.
Because now in the next scene, Ryan is in Michael's office and he hears Oscar yelling from the conference room.
Oscar is going off.
I know the beginning of that scene, the stuff that they're overhearing Oscar saying, Oscar's improvising.
Because they were like, okay, just make a big fuss.
They'll overhear it, and it will cause them to leave Michael's office, right, to go see what the hubbub is about.
Yeah. And Oscar is a very funny improviser, and he got to have some fun in this episode.
Oh, all those lines are amazing.
Michael goes into the conference room, and he sees Oscar is with Toby, and he is ranting about Angela's baby jazz poster that Toby gave her in The Secret Santa Exchange at Christmas.
Yes. She has hung it in accounting, and Oscar doesn't want to look at it anymore.
She's furious. And Toby's like, listen, you normally wouldn't hear this ranting.
Normally we do it in the break room, but they're doing the security badge photos in there.
So we're doing it in here instead.
And this is Michael's opportunity.
He has found his purpose, and this is it.
He's so excited, he decides he's going to resolve this conflict.
So he calls Angela and Oscar into the conference room and Pam.
Apparently Pam had to attend.
Pam gets pulled into so many things with Michael.
It's her to document it in some way.
I don't know, but I'm not writing anything down.
And you hardly ever are.
No true. He just likes to feel important.
He likes to feel like he has a personal assistant.
Yes. I like how quickly he produced this poster board that says communicate this binder.
He's had this. He has been waiting.
He has had this. He's ready to go.
But you know what I think, Angela?
I think Corporate gave him this binder a long time ago to look through and study and he's never cracked it open until now.
Oh, yeah. He was like, I can't be bothered with this binder and now suddenly he's gripped it off the shelf.
We had a fan question from Aiden Mejia, you know, we go through the different styles of conflict resolution, and Aidan wanted to know, did it ever mention in the script what the number two and number three resolutions were in the five different styles of conflict?
I don't know, but I know what the five are.
The only one that's referred to in the script that isn't listed in this scene is compromise.
So, the five types of conflict resolution are lose -lose, win -lose, compromise, win -win, and win -win -win.
So, they're really, Michael's really keyed in on a win -win -win, because then even he wins.
Yes, we know lose loses number one and then Angela just wants him to just skip to win -win and he goes, that's number four.
But then I love Steve's performance so much when he starts to read number five and here's the thing that Steve is doing He's reading something and making it look like he's never read it before and that he's getting surprised as he reads Yes, even though you and I both know he knew those lines backwards and forwards.
So he's like, oh number five When when when I win I go I wouldn't do because I resolved it and it's just he's so good But just in that very small moment, you see how great he is at finessing all of these little moments.
I love it. They should play that in acting schools as an example of a moment of discovery.
All right. So at 4 minutes, 32 seconds, they go over to quote, Look at the disputed poster.
Michael wants them to express their feelings.
And I say that the poster makes me happy because it makes me feel like the babies are the real artists that God has a funny sense of humor and Oscar at five minutes two seconds just goes off.
And he has this rant.
It was so fun to do this with Oscar.
I have known him for so long.
We performed together in sketch comedy.
So I knew when they told him he could uncork what that meant.
And it was just a delight for me when he was like, you know what?
It's kitsch. It's the opposite of art.
it destroys art, it destroys souls.
Like, it just goes on.
Was that improvise or scripted, Angela, or a mixture?
It was a mixture, it was a mixture.
And I think that was mostly scripted, but his stuff with Paul, with Toby in the conference room at the top of that scene was improvised.
But Oscar is just so funny in this.
And I just remember it was hard to keep a straight face.
I remember that, I had you to my right and Oscar to my left. It was very hard. It was very hard for me because Pam doesn't have any lines and my direction was that I was not to react.
I was to remain very neutral as possible.
And so that was difficult to be neutral.
All right, well, we had a fan question from Zoey Kennedy.
What do you guys think a win, win, win solution to Oscar and Angela's dispute with the baby poster would be because you know Michael's win -win -win solution is that Oscar will turn the baby poster into a t -shirt t -shirt he has to wear because then he won't see it but Angela will see it all the time yes and neither of them like no they're like I'm like that so what would you make it be and what's your win win win I would say that you could have personal items that could fit on your desk and as long as they weren't offensive they could stay on your desk.
I like that! You shrink it down to like no bigger than an 8 x 10." And then she could put it on her desk, and that would be my win -win -win.
Angela, that is a great solution.
You set a new rule that personal items can be no larger than 8 x 10, just that's it, that's it everyone.
You heard it here first!
You're welcome Corporate America!
You heard it here! All right, so moving on.
What is next? So, Angela, we got a really cool fan question about this scene from Mari Sala Cabuto, and I loved it so much I reached out and I asked her if she would send me a recording of her asking the question.
So here it goes. When Michael is trying to solve the Angela Oskar dispute, they are all standing in the accounting area.
On a column behind Michael, there is a certificate of participation for a Mark Christie?
Who is that? I was so excited to get this question.
Angela. So this moment happens at 4 minutes 32 seconds and right next to Steve's head on this pillar, reception is behind the pillar, you can see this plaque.
It's exactly what Marisela described.
It is a certificate of participation for Mark Christie.
This is one of my favorite things about our set.
Okay so Mark was the best boy grip and the key grip for seasons one through three on the office and that is ultimately respons card sign certificate or specifically for the show created the Dunder Mifflin created all of the little and certificates that han and in an effort to give touch, they would include the names of real crew members?
Yes. So for example, we also had a Salesman of the Year and a Humanitarian of the Year plaque.
And those plaques featured our crew member names as well.
But really, you can see them everywhere.
You'll start to notice them as you watch episodes.
I do now. I look for them.
Yeah. There are tons that are just sprinkled throughout the whole office.
Well, let me tell you what my favorite one is.
Okay? Okay. So my favorite one involves our first AD, Kelly Cantley.
You guys might remember her.
Kelly, her job is keeping all of the actors on schedule.
She makes sure that we arrive for our scenes when we're supposed to.
And she is also the one who would run our safety meeting.
So Kelly Cantly was, safety meeting, lit candle on set.
That's Kelly Cantly.
We have a pair of scissors in someone's hand, safety meeting.
Yes, exactly, exactly.
But Kelly really had to keep the whole production on time.
Everything happening on the set, all of us working together, and getting our day done, making our day.
She's by far one of the most important elements to running the show, for sure.
Well, I guess that Kelly had gone around and looked at all the plaques, and she noticed that her name was not on any of them.
I can kind of picture Kelly doing that actually.
She spent a couple of days sort of doing this bit where she was all like, oh, I see.
No, Kelly Kelly, my name is on a plaque.
It was very funny. And then all of a sudden, one day, a new plaque showed up.
It's on the poll over by Stanley's desk and here's what it said.
And it said, whereas it came to our attention that Kelly Cantlie was whining, that a lowly second assistant director had a plaque with her name on it.
And whereas Kelly Cantlie made a comment on the air regarding that fact, we have decided to give her this certificate because we love her.
That's so fun. And so and then they just waited for her to notice it.
And then it stayed there for the rest of the run of the show.
So guys, something fun to do.
You can go through, try to hit pause whenever you see these certificates and you can see some names of our crew members.
I think it's just a really, really great way to honor them.
And this is actually a very popular thing that happens on sets.
Yes. All right. I love that question.
I love hearing the behind the scenes of our crew, But Jenna, it's time to get into the save the date.
Yes. Six minutes, 28 seconds, we get a real bird's -eye view of this.
Well, Pam has broken down and is giving Angela a save the date hand -delivered.
We have a fan question from Miss Lavender Darling.
She said Pam's save the date invitation say place TVA.
Why did she bother making a Save the Date with location TBD?
TBD. When I looked at the Save the Date, okay first of all, Angela is throwing shade.
She's like, it's hand delivered but it's okay, but it's also not my taste.
So she's throwing a lot of shade, but I screen grabbed the Save the Date and it says, Save the Date and then written in hand.
So you know, it's printed, but then you've got to fill in everything by hand.
It says, for the wedding, Pam Beasley to Roy Anderson, date June 10th, place to be determined.
This save the date gives us nothing.
Everyone in the office knew it was gonna be June 10th because Roy announced it drunkenly on Booze Cruise.
We know it's between the two of you.
This save the date is pointless.
It's a waste of time.
It's a waste of money.
Kind of like their wedding.
Oh my god, can I get an Angela Sass?
I didn't. I did! Angela Sasse!
There it is. I agree with you, Angela.
I think that these rather lame handwritten save -the -dates are a waste of time.
Did you do save -the -dates for your wedding, or did you just send an invitation?
Well, you know, I did just an email save -the -date.
Yeah. I did an email.
Yeah, that's a little bit where we are now.
I think I'll say I did a save the date a hard -copy save the date thing I think.
Why? It's a waste of time.
I don't know. It's a waste of stance.
Because it was like etiquette back then.
Back then. Way back then.
No but it's true I think there's a lot that has changed.
I remember getting in a huge argument with my mom about wedding Because in her generation, the bride planned the wedding with her parents because her parents paid for the wedding.
And it was like a party they threw for the bride and groom.
And I said, I want to plan my wedding with my husband, the person who's going to be my husband.
Like my mom wanted to pick out our registry items with me.
And I was like, that feels so weird to me.
That I would go with my mom to pick out my dishes.
Wouldn't I go with the person who's gonna eat off the plates with me to pick them out?
But there was like a generational divide in like how these things are done.
And I feel like this is gonna point to like another generational divide.
Like, remember when you used to send these paper save the date, or even these paper wedding invitations?
Nowadays, I get invited to weddings all the time where it's all online.
I get an email and then I click on this website and the registry links are there and the RSVP is there and it's like all there and it's actually kind of awesome.
I like a lot of it that's online now.
It makes it very easy to find information but I still like getting a hand proper invitation.
I don't need a save the date.
I don't need a little card with directions.
I don't need a little special card that lets you know if I want to eat chicken or the pasta But I like getting the paper Invitation for some of my dearest friends.
I've saved them. I don't know I also am a little bit of a pack rat as we know I scrapbook So I like getting the actual paper invitation myself.
I can be with you on that.
I really like getting a a paper thank -you.
Yeah. Like a thank -you card in the mail.
That's nice. As opposed to for a for a big event like a wedding.
I don't need, like, a paper thank -you if I gave you a birthday present or something, but if it's a big event like a wedding, I think the process of a couple sitting down and writing out their thank -you cards is a really nice tradition.
And I think it is. What's the word I'm looking for?
Proper? I feel like if you're giving like, yeah, like the significance of a wedding gift deserves the significance of a handwritten thank you card. I can.
I can go with that.
I can go with that.
Well, Angela, I have to say that for being an episode about conflict resolution, we just did not have a conflict about that.
We were in total agreement.
We talked that out and we agree.
You also liked my resolution for the jazz poster.
So, we're finding some common ground here.
Yeah, we're really resolving things.
So there you go. We're on we're on brand.
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Okay, we are back from break.
Like we have discussed Pam's very lame save the date.
Yeah, and now Michael fresh off his I guess his win, win, win with Oscar and Angela decides he's going to demand from Toby that he be given all of the unresolved complaints.
All of them. And he takes them from Toby.
Forcibly he says, quote, I had to use win, lose on that.
It was not pretty. Yeah.
But now he's got him and he is gonna start resolving conflicts.
He's on a mission. He's just gonna stir the pot.
That's what he's gonna do.
At seven minutes and 40 seconds, Pam is in the conference room with Michael and they're going through all the complaints.
And I have to say, Ang, in this scene, I really liked the callback for Stanley with Miracle Whip.
Did you hear that one?
Yes. The complaint that is from Kevin that Stanley keeps using his Miracle Whip without asking which is a callback from when Jim was doing that Stanley impression during drug testing and he his bit was I like the tangy zip of Miracle Whip.
Yeah. I love that. So also there's something else that I think it was pretty fantastic if you love a really good eye roll, you need to go to 8 minutes 35 seconds.
Angela I wrote it down.
There is a Pam eye roll to end all eyelids.
It is substantial. It is.
Well, Michael has gone into the bullpen to ask people if they feel like Toby really solved their complaints, or if they were merely listened to and forgot about.
And he starts reading all the complaints out loud.
And that's when I wrote down major Pam eye roll sass some major Pam sass right there.
And so, then there's this thing, I remember laughing.
I remember like breaking in this, at eight minutes, 53 seconds, Michael says, oh, and there's a Phyllis Angela dispute, and I say, you already did me, and he goes, that's what she said.
And Jim mouths it as Michael says it.
That was scripted. That was not John improvising.
That was a scripted moment.
And the camera sort of pretends like it's going to find John doing that.
It's really great. I think that's a great example of the choreography with the camera.
The discovery moment, yeah.
Exactly. We also find out some interesting information about Dwight and Angela.
Yes. Which is we now have a time stamp because for six months Angela has been complaining about Dwight and that that was all redacted for the last six months.
Yes. All of Angela's complaints about Dwight were redacted six months ago.
Six months. I'd love to read what some of those complaints were.
Well, we know, we know one of them, one of them has to do with safety officer.
I'm sure she filed a complaint about that.
I'm sure all of her complaints are just based on who is really in charge of this or that.
But now Michael just starts listing things off and he's one by one getting everyone pissed off at each other.
Everyone is getting angry with each other.
Pam first volunteers to save Angela because it seems like it's going to be revealed to the office if anyone thinks real hard on this that hmm why did Angela redact all of her complaints.
So Pam volunteers but there's only one complaint against Pam and it's been withdrawn and this was the complaint.
Does she have to plan her wedding on office time?
Can't she do that from home?
And Pam assumes that it was Angela who complained about her.
Pam totally glares at Angela and Angela's like what, what?
And I believe her. I believe her.
Well yeah, she didn't complain about her.
No. Yeah, but I think it's reasonable for Pam to assume that she did.
Well true because Angela I think has the most complaints of anyone else in the complaint box.
This is true. But you're right, then Michael goes around and just starts throwing out everybody's complaints.
We have to point out that at 10 minutes 53 seconds.
We have an Angela Pam Partition scene.
I love it these were some of my favorites and we we didn't get to do very many of them because we would laugh and we would Ruin take after take but here it is you and I over the partition Having a heated conversation.
Yes Pam goes right up to Angela and says thanks for ratting me out I know, you're so ticked off.
Oh, I'm mad. Fan question from Colleen Keenan and Brittany Magert.
They both asked, Was Pam calling Dwight Bobblehead Joe scripted?
Because I say, you and Bobblehead Joe.
They want to know if that was scripted.
It was scripted. It was scripted.
But guess what, here's a little window into Pam when she gets mad, she starts name calling.
I guess so. Can I get...
Sam, could I get a little Pam Sass here?
Pam Sass! Thank you.
Yeah that's appropriate.
Pam Sass! Because Pam keeps sassing.
She sasses right into the kitchen and is complaining to Jim about Angela.
And Jim's kind of like, Oh I don't...
he doesn't know. You know what I wish, I wish we had a sting that said Jim Shade.
Because He gives you some shade.
He's like, oh, and what does Roy think about that?
And he's like, well, I don't really talk to Roy about this.
And he's like, about your feelings and stuff.
Jam shade. I like it, Angel.
I like it. Well, now we move into the conference room.
Angela, can you tell us about this scene with you and Phyllis, with Michael?
This scene was really hard because Phyllis and I got tickled.
We got tickled. But yeah, so here Angela and Phyllis are at it again.
Now, in the bullpen, when Michael calls out Phyllis for having a complaint on Angela.
She's like, I don't know what you're talking about, Angela and I are friends.
But then Phyllis is just starts turning on everyone.
There's a deleted scene.
That's also pretty great.
So yeah, so Phyllis clearly, I guess, has been parking in the parking spot where Angela likes to park.
even though they're not named parking spots, we don't have individual spots.
But clearly, my character likes to park in the same spot every day, and Phyllis has been parking in it.
And I'm ticked off, so I complained, and Phyllis is like I'm sorry, I guess I forgot I parked in the spot you liked even though we don't have assigned parking.
But then at the very end she goes, I don't like you.
I know. Phyllis. I know.
And in the deleted scene she tells Dwight she doesn't like him.
Mm -hmm I think that's some Phyllis sass.
Phyllis sass. That one's hard. It's a lot.
Like, it's like an S to an S.
It's a lot of S's. This is when we're gonna find out that Ryan thinks Creed has an old man's smell and Creed is like, oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. I know what he's talking about.
I grow Hmong beans in my desk.
They're really nutritious, but they smell like death.
I texted Creed last night about it.
Does he eat them in real life?
I said Creed, you're on my TV right now talking about the Hmong beans in your drawer.
And he said, I still talk to my Hmong beans.
Oh, Creed. And he said, yeah.
He said, I was eating Hmong beans exactly.
That's exactly what it was.
Wow! I said, how do they taste?
And he said, they taste like grass and air, mostly.
Grass and air. Not really like death.
Well, Angela, I looked up mung beans, and it turns out that they are really good for you, especially the sprouted ones.
Oh! The sprouted ones have fewer calories and more amino acids and antioxidants than unsprouted ones.
Let me tell you some benefits to eating mung beans, because I know you're curious.
I can't wait. So they've done some studies in animals that have shown that mung beans help to reduce cholesterol.
Okay. We're not doctors.
I'm just a woman on the internet, so anything I say here, guys - In her closet right now?
Yeah. She's just a woman talking to you from her closet.
Well, disclaimer, but they also seem to be a good source of potassium, magnesium, protein, and fiber, but here's the catch. If you If you've ever been curious about sprouting and eating some mung beans, they won't be stinky, if you would just care for them properly.
According to the internet, I'm not an expert.
And according to Creed, they taste like grass and air.
So there you go. All right, Kevin has been making sexually suggestive comments to Angela that make her uncomfortable.
So Michael suggests that the solution is for Angela to make sexual comments about Kevin that will make him uncomfortable.
First of all, Kevin Gross, once again.
Yeah. We have been tracking Kevin's pervyness!
Ooh, is that a sting?
Kevin Perv! Our whole podcast is just going to be stings.
It'll gonna be like, Angela Satts, Kevin Perv!
Handshade! Ok, now we're back in the break room, we're back to making our ID's and our badges, right?
And at 13 minutes 11 seconds, my stepson Jack, it's one of his favourite talking heads, where Dwight said he would never smile in a photo, because that's a sign of weakness.
And so, he's never going to smile in a photo, which just cracked us up.
Jim is making this oversized ID badge for Dwight.
See, he's playing a prank on them, you guys.
This is classic Jim, right?
And he put Dwight's middle name as Fart.
Yep, and he says he's a security threat.
While we had a fan catch by Molly Torres, she says, at 14 minutes, 42 seconds, there there is a close up shot of the prank ID badge that Jim made for Dwight and his title is assistant to the regional manager.
But he had been promoted to assistant regional manager in season two, episode six.
This is another layer to Jim's prank.
Ah, yes. So it goes unmentioned in the episode.
But yes. another layer to the prank badge is that he gives him his improper title.
That he loves to do.
Yes, that's right. Well it's at this point that Dwight storms over to Toby.
He's had enough and he finds out that Toby has just been putting his complaints about Jim in a box.
He has not been registering them with corporate the way he said.
Now Dwight is furious and he goes marching in to find Michael yeah and he says a line that I love four years of malfeasances yes and he says I cannot work with Jim anymore one of them has to go Michael has to pick by the end of the day yeah he's he is officially furious and you know what this is all coming back to bite Michael in the butt because Toby said just let him vent and then I file it and I never do anything about it and they they got to vent and that's that yeah and now it's all catching up with Michael he realizes that Toby probably had the right idea yes well Dwight goes online and starts
looking up jobs at other branches and Dunderpedia had a really great list of all the jobs that are available at 14 minutes 56 seconds if you pause on the screen Here are the jobs that are available within Dunder Mifflin.
Are you ready? At Stanford, there is a Plant Manager and a Sales Manager position.
The Sales Manager position requires three to five years of experience and a bachelor's degree.
And there is an IT Manager position available at Stanford. Here's my question.
Isn't Josh Porter the, oh, is he the Branch Manager?
He's the branch manager.
Well, within our office, I guess Michael is the branch manager.
Who's the sales manager of Scranton?
Probably, I mean. I don't know...
Like Stanley? I would think Stanley because he's a senior.
Yeah, he's been there awhile, but that's a job we don't ever really talk about.
Yeah, so I just thought that was interesting.
Well, in New York, Dunder Mifflin, they've got a position for maintenance engineer.
In Albany, they need a comptroller and two regional managers.
And in Buffalo, you can't read what it is, but they need someone.
And Scranton has two positions available.
Well, here's the thing for a company that's downsizing and on the verge of collapse, why are all of these job openings?
Thank you. What's up?
Thank you that too.
But listen to the jobs that are available in Scranton.
Warehouse staff and warehouse manager.
But isn't Daryl the warehouse manager?
Is he looking to leave?
What's happening there?
What's the story? I don't know.
I don't know because he is the manager.
After this Michael calls Dwight and Jim into the conference room and he goes through a list of Dwight's complaints.
And this is my favorite part of the episode.
It's so good. And one of them made me laugh so hard. All right, here are the list of pranks that Jim has pulled on Dwight that Dwight has reported, ready?
OK, yes. Ready, Jenna go.
Number one. Number one, he replaced all of Dwight's pens and pencils with crayons.
Number two, he had everyone call him Duane all day, which, by the way, Jenna, by the guess who would sometimes call him Dwayne?
Who? In the scene. Who?
Oscar. He did? For real.
For real, there were scenes where he'd be like, listen Dwayne, and I'd be like Dwight, it's Dwight.
And he'd be like, ah, crap.
That is so funny. Somehow it went into Oscar's brain in real life.
Okay. Well, Jim also placed a bloody glove in Dwight's desk drawer and tried to convince him that he had committed murder.
Yes. Number four. Jim told Dwight there was an abandoned infant in the women's room.
He went in to save the child and saw Meredith on the can.
Yes, this one is my favorite of all time of any prank ever written about on The Office.
It's just a sentence.
We never see this play out, but my imagination of it is so rich. Dwight says he hit himself in the head with his phone and Michael is like, what?
How could that have been Jim's fault?
then Jim is talking head.
It cuts to Jim, yeah.
And John's reaction, he laughs, he says that he put nickels in Dwight's head set over the course of a long time, so that it got heavier and heavier and then one day he took them all out so that when Dwight answered the phone it would be super light.
Yeah. That's, that is brilliant.
That is brilliant. That is brilliant.
Greg Daniels. Yeah.
Clap. That is brilliant.
That's the greatest. That is Jim doing the slow play.
That's, I think, why I like it is that the patience required for that prank.
All right, there's more.
Go. The next one is that every time Dwight typed his name, it would just say diaper.
And then the last one is that by the end of the day, Dwight complains that his desk was moved two feet closer to the copier.
and Jim admits that yes, every time Jim got up from his desk, he moved it a little closer to the copier.
But then Jim was like, well, when you put them all together like that, it doesn't sound really cool.
Yeah, he's like, oh, that sounds like, maybe my life is gonna suck.
Yeah, maybe I suck.
So that's what I spent my time doing.
At 16 minutes, 39 seconds, I have a card that it just says a montage of sex. Oh, it's your montage of sex!
It's a montage of sex. We see Phyllis, she slams the fridge door on Angela.
Pam is glaring eating yogurt, angry eating yogurt.
And then you have Creed, and he's looking crazy and he's holding a pencil like it's a knife.
And I mean then it just goes all through Stanley and Kevin and Kelly and Tobi everyone is ticked off.
Yeah, everyone's just mad.
It's a mad montage.
It's a sas montage really.
It's a montage of sas.
It is. Well, at 18 minutes, we have a fan catch from George Felton.
OK. Dwight's ID badge has been redone.
His middle name is correct.
It says, Kurt. But you know what?
If you look closely, he's still listed as a security threat.
He didn't get that removed.
Good catch, George.
I liked that. There is a deleted scene where Pam shows Jim her ID badge and her clearance level is red.
Yeah. And Jim's like, what does that mean?
And Dwight's like, I'm not going to tell you.
Also, Pam doesn't seem to know what it means either, which I thought was very funny.
All right. So guys, it's the end of the day.
And Michael thinks that the way he could really boost everyone's morale after this hard day of resolving conflicts is to get a group photo.
He wants a group photo.
Stanley's like, are you kidding me?
Seriously? So he gets everybody to stand.
And but a lot's happening.
Like no one's smiling.
This is when Jim tells Pam that he's the one who made the complaint against her about the wedding thing.
And he said he was just venting.
Oh, my God. So awkward. How awkward. He's having this conversation during a group photo of his coworkers.
And you're like sandwich between Phyllis and Stanley.
And Phyllis is listening to everything.
Her reactions are amazing.
So good. She literally says, oh, dear.
Yes. Yes. I have a fan catch, another fan catch from Carly Mitchell.
You know how earlier you were mentioning how your stepson, Jack, loves that talking head where Dwight says he doesn't smile because it's a sign of weakness in primates?
Guess who's smiling in the group photo?
Who? Dwight! Yeah. Dwight, what are you doing?
Fan catch by Carly Mitchell, 18 minutes, 50 seconds.
He's smiling. You know what?
I feel like this is layered emotionally for Dwight because he would not smile on his own but he will smile for Michael and that is his weakness.
Michael is his weakness.
Oh yeah. Well I have a Jenna catch. Okay.
For this group photo moment.
You know Michael says it's really hard to get a photo of 15 people Yeah, he says that's really hard. Guess what there's only 14 people in the photo And it's true he never does get a photo so he photoshops the group photo he says it's amazing what you can do with Photoshop and that's how he gets his group photo and as you guys know because we've shared with you Greg then gave that photo to us all as a gift and I have it I will I will put it I will hold up the photo of it next to me and put it on the website so then this episode ends it's kind of sad Pam is checking her voicemail and she gets this voicemail
from Jim saying you know what I'm not gonna be in until the afternoon tomorrow because I have a doctor's appointment in the city, that then we see what he's really doing.
He's meeting with Jan at corporate.
Yeah, and, you know, he's probably going to apply for that job at the Stanford Branch. He can't take it anymore.
He can't watch. I think he's, yeah.
Yeah, he can't watch her plan her wedding anymore.
It's getting to be too much and it's heartbreaking.
Yeah, he's going to move on.
At the very end of this episode is an amazing little tribute to Raiders of the Lost Ark.
It is. Where we see Toby putting this box of complaints in a wall of complaints, like with the forklift and the whole thing, it's very Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Yes. We had a fan ask, Cole Edwards wanted to know, at the end of the episode, when we see Toby put that box of complaints in the warehouse, was it an homage to the end of Indiana Jones?
It was yes, it was and you guys just for fun If you're out there and you're gonna rewatch it go to 11 minutes 43 seconds Toby's company ID photo is my favorite What is it?
He sits down and he just says just take the picture and he gets up and walks away He takes it right as he walks away Yes Yes, it's pretty amazing.
Angela, before we wrap up, we had a fan question from Devin Couch. Was there ever a baby poster shirt and did Oscar ever wear it?
I went through all the deleted scenes and didn't see one, but do you know?
No, I don't believe there was.
I don't believe it and I would have loved it.
That would have been a fantastic callback years later, if we had just seen him in that shirt one time, or maybe like when Angela had to move in with Oscar, maybe she found the shirt in his closet, something.
But no, I don't have a memory of that, but that would have been fantastic.
I agree, I wish that we owned the rights to that picture because I would buy that shirt.
Would you buy it and wear it?
Maybe, why not? Oh man, why not?
It's such like a...it would be such a fun inside joke I think.
You are wearing a hoodie right now with your own image on it.
So what? Office ladies?
You know it. It's office ladies.
I always wear my office ladies hoodie when we record. Office ladies, it's like a uniform.
It's my little uniform.
I, I like a uniform.
I went to a Catholic girls high school.
Yes, you know. I am kidding.
Of course, you like structure, you like uniform, you like order.
How about that yes order love order.
Yeah. Feel very safe in order.
There you go. Yes terrifying to me terrifying.
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