All right. Behold. We didn't do a test. Well, talk now.
Bip, bip, bip, bip.
Yeah, yeah. I had seen that.
I always look for the bars.
Oh, so are we recording?
We are. We are. Now you know.
Now you know. Rocket League, it just hit the switch?
That sounds right. Yeah, I think it did.
Man, I bet that's all right.
I bet that's a good version.
Yeah. Yeah, I considered bringing it in just to make sure I was getting everything synced up on there, but I had too much else to do.
Bringing the switch in?
Yeah, I just had too many things today to spend any time mapping around on that type of stuff.
Oh, today. Oh, yeah, we have a meeting sometime today, don't we?
Well, no, I have a ton of shows.
Oh. I got... Oh, Intoxicated?
Intoxicated, and we got some art.
Yeah. Then we're gonna mess around a little bit there at the end.
So, we have strips up until...
We have Wednesday done.
We need a strip for Friday.
We need a Friday, and ultimately, we need a strip for...
The stage. For the stage.
Yeah. Which will be our Monday strip.
Right. And you have the strip text for the club.
I gave you the club.
Okay, yeah. I forwarded that over to Josh yesterday.
Just when the show gets close, it's like there's so much shit.
Yeah. You should definitely come in and try the Barley O 'Horse, though.
Okay. Yeah. There's a lot going on in that one.
I was being told yesterday that it is the greatest beer you've ever brewed. It could be.
If you were to bottle and sell it, it could make a lot of money.
Well, I mean, I haven't had it carbonated.
I've just basically had the finished product.
So it wasn't cold, and it wasn't carbonated yet.
You just sort of use it to test tastes.
Sure. And it's very, very solid.
It's massive in scale.
Like, it's a really strong one, too.
But the main thing is that it's of a piece with the other one that we made with you in mind.
Oh, so it's a sweeter?
Yeah, Belgian. The Belgian yeast is the main thing.
It takes a little bit out of the regular beer context and puts a bunch of candy -type tastes in there.
I was out the other night and I drank a pineapple cider, hard cider.
Yeah, I've seen pineapple cider starting to pop up.
Cider in general up here is starting to take over.
I've had lots of apple ciders before, but I'd never seen a pineapple hard cider.
It was very good. Yeah, I was going to say cider over the last couple years here has definitely become a genre.
Yeah. So there's a bunch of other shit in there.
You can't use your thing to make that, can you?
Well, no, you don't need to.
That's the thing about cider in general or kombucha, either of those.
None of them require to get the sugar from the grains.
That's what that device is really doing.
Okay. Now, it's also introducing hops at certain times.
Yeah. But the main purpose of that device is to extract sugar from grain.
Like cooking them out kind of?
Exactly. In juice, the sugar is just fucking there.
You don't got to do shit.
As long as everything is prepped and entered into a clean vessel, you add the yeast to the juice.
Make sure there's a bung on there so that it doesn't explode, so the gas can get out, basically, and nothing else can get in.
And it just sits? Yeah, it just sits, depending on how hard you want to go on it.
Mead's the same way.
These are all just things, as long as the vessel's clean, you're not in any danger.
The sugar is just present.
It's like if you make kombucha, you're making a really, really sweet tea, and then you're letting a mushroom eat it.
So weird. I agree that it's weird, but there's a lot of, head down and see how cheese is made sometimes.
I know you like cheese.
We've been to the Tillamook Cheese Factory.
I know how it works.
We see them scrape off the cheeses.
The cheeses. Yeah. The cheeses that remain.
settle. That's right.
Yeah, yeah. We're just...
We're always sort of hijacking these microscopic creatures.
Yeah. And putting them to work.
What if we're the microscopic creatures in some other entity's Pico brewing system?
Dun, dun, dun. Michael, dun, dun, dun.
You know? Indeed. Those are the real thoughts.
Yeah. I'm providing the A material.
So, let's see, it seems...
I wonder if there's something about...
These loot boxes? Well, it's like...
Well, I mean, specifically loot boxes or whatever.
Every game has loot boxes.
It's really just a matter of how aggressive are you?
Do you arrive, do you get to the point where it's mean -spirited in some way?
I think that consumers are saying that EA has reached that point, right?
Oh, yeah, and I agree.
And so has EA if they really have modified all the pricing.
But if, like on that Game Informer article, if they've also minimized your capability of getting credits.
Yeah, I think that they've pulled a couple different levers.
At the same time. Yeah.
In the hopes that the first one is the one that gets out.
Right. I don't know.
But these things are all based on something, right?
It's all based on some type of market research, and then they push it a little bit.
Right. But then they've done that basically unchecked.
Because people were talking about the star cards last time, too.
I mean, that was a conversation.
this is just i think it's the the roster of heroes i think is deeper too yeah you push until they push back i guess right when it's like the it's like the horse armor is like the classic example right except horse armor never conferred any kind of multiplayer no the idea that you would get a you know a bonus in mechanics or in play yeah the performance to my mind that's one of the most fascinating things about this is that i mean that was generally speaking considered the the line yeah it was like oh it's just cosmetic and everybody goes okay as long as it's just cosmetic yeah but talking to keek
i mean i don't i feel like i sort of understand what's going on with call of duty like i i haven't really played the last couple seriously in multiplayer unless it was with you or keek yeah kill confirmed is still amazing like i yeah it's great i've played that an unlimited amount of time but if you're actually getting bonus weapons with it have custom him improve stats out of those boxes too yeah then yeah i mean that's that's creep i mean that's yeah that happened that's mission creep it's it happened it just happened in games that i don't it happened in games that i'm not buying yeah you know
like i wasn't gonna buy battlefront anyway i really didn't like the first one but the rest of the kiko statement there is when you see that gun you're not like you're not mad that oh he's got that gun you're mad like oh i need to get that like exactly but but i mean i think i think that that's really important yeah you're not you're not gonna get i mean every now and then you're gonna see that so all the coverage of this kind of stuff has to adopt a very specific tone yeah but there is this there is this customer out there who who wants something like this it doesn't mean that they want what ea gave
them right but these these levers exist and people buy them yeah like it really is a collaborative effort yeah on the part of these two things and it's just like you know I I'm not interested in I'm not going to spend a lot of money on that type of stuff yeah if you look at Assassin's Creed I'm not going to spend money in that store but it doesn't bother me that the store exists this if the addition of that store means that they can afford to make games like assassins creed origin exactly and and then in addition and we covered this in the strip as well what you found is that availing yourself
of that store actually ruined the game for you oh yeah absolutely so i mean to my mind that's a really that's an important part of this conversation as well that's a single player game though too like i'm oh absolutely you know absolutely i'm trying to think if they had the multiplayer mode of assassin's creed in there and you could pay to have better gear would that bother me yeah i mean it depends on the gear i mean in that it would almost certainly be about leveling up yeah and getting access it would be a time saver it'd be about leveling up getting access costumes i'm just thinking about how
they would do it yeah because they're never ever going to go down all the way into the to the weapon i don't think i don't think so and and the cosmetic stuff doesn't bother me at all if somebody has a cool skin that they paid for like no i i'm not especially manipulated by things like that no but maybe that's why you know for somebody for somebody else that's got to be maddening it's just especially if you have that collector streak which i don't have right um if you had that collector streak these systems must be just nefarious oh Oh, yeah, if you're the person that's got to have all the skins.
Oh, yeah, and a bunch of them are sort of capped out.
A bunch of them are sort of taken from the game and then sequestered in a type of, you know, endlessly reproducible birthday party experience.
Yeah, I bet that would drive you crazy.
But it's just like, in the same way that I don't allow people, I don't allow strangers in my voice chat, I just don't allow it.
You know, I'm not interested in it.
my life has very very very rarely ever been improved by a stranger on mic in a game it's i'm not my things never happen sure but it's pretty rare and it's rare enough that i don't feel obligated to find out if today is the day you know yeah but and it's it's yeah you just don't let yourself be manipulated by exactly and with a lot of this luke gray stuff it's the same there so there's a difference though right between here's some cool skins even here's some weapons and here's Luke Skywalker oh yeah exactly exactly and that's and that's what places it a little bit past I think that's in this case
the way for me to keep from being manipulated by any of this is not to purchase the product yeah you know you know because what's happening is that that stuff generally speaking was siloed in that aesthetic context yeah and now that stuff is constantly in your face because people are murdering you with it well yeah I'm gonna keep getting killed by a boba fett and it's like i want to play as boba fett yeah exactly this is what kiko was talking about but again like from my perspective like the whopper had it right you know it's like the only way to win that game is not to play it's not to play it
yeah and it sucks because that shit is like photorealistic yo i mean i literally cannot believe how that fucking game looks i already own it like i bought it because i wanted to try the beta of the beta yeah well tell me how that single single player campaign is man yeah that's i mean i like i said i read that book and i am very interested in where that story goes i'm not super interested in the multi i think they changed her name it used to be eden verso yeah i like that better yeah when did they change it i i suspect it has to do with jan erso oh right yeah that could be they can have like both
you know listen we got a lot of characters yeah we're introducing a lot of them we're really proud of them they're all named the same same name easy for everybody to pick up we've got a new wookiee called hubaka actually there was a low baka yeah exactly they went pretty hard on some of that stuff yeah but yeah yeah we can jump in there and feast on some of that if we want to yeah oh i got a uh i got to a new town in ac last night the it's actually called memphis and uh but it's not tennessee yeah and each town has tailors that sell different outfits and one of the outfit that Oh totally yeah
Trust me man I know about AC I got the Prince of Persia Do they have one?
They have a Prince of Persia With like the red sash Yeah and the mask and the hood It just says that this costume was worn By a very nimble prince A fleet of foot Does it look dope?
It looks fucking killer I'm down I support you 100 % But man it makes me want them to come back to that franchise How great would a modern Prince of Persia be?
Well, I actually really liked the recent ones.
I did, too. I loved the new update that had that really dark ending.
Yeah. I thought that that was very, very good.
When they have come back to Prince of Persia, I've liked it.
Yeah. It's been the right reason.
They should definitely get back in touch with the writer they had up front, though.
I'm not playing anything like that.
That run, jump, climb, jump, run, that type of game is not a thing right now.
yeah it's I mean it's it's a it's an amazing it's it's just an amazing high stakes take on the platformer right because unlike I mean you used to be able to compare some of those interactions with like let's say uncharted oh and uncharted apes some of that stuff but it's not kinetic and it's not the same yeah it's not fast it's not fast honestly I find climbing around and uncharted really really boring it's tedious yeah it's tedious because it's so slow but this This was like run along the wall, then it's jump to the ring, hold, run, jump, run.
It was awesome. It was awesome.
It was awesome. But that speed, then they brought that kinetic speed over to stealth and conviction.
Yeah. That was ahead of the game.
Yeah. They did some really cool stuff there.
Yeah. I love Prince.
I would love to see them come back to that.
Star Wars, EA. Yeah.
I'm trying to think.
There was a great...
It was like the front page of Reddit this morning when I woke up.
It was that picture of Anakin, you know, crawling out of the lava, and Obi -Wan up on the high ground.
You're supposed to be the chosen one.
And he goes, Anakin, you can't win.
I've purchased the higher ground paid DLC.
Dark Tidings. Yeah.
But I'd love the advantages.
Like that sort of thing.
is what i was thinking about anyway yeah just like what it what it means to have this type of power and we did a comic like that oh yeah mine thurston mine was it that one with the soda well that was an old one right machines we did a more recent one even where you could i was like you could pay for a a mech or something i remember drawing i think it was even an ea game maybe yeah i don't know something you usually you're the one that remembers this generally but i'm not sure what we're talking about yet oh paid micro transactions giving you a greater benefit oh that's oh yeah we've done a few
strips like that yeah i mean you could do the thing where taiko's like um this this battlefront to nonsense is you know really got me bothered i don't know what he says he's mad he's like we're gonna i we're gonna boycott this right and he's like Like, yeah, absolutely.
Not giving them a dime of my hard -earned money.
My wealth. Yeah, it's like, well, you already bought it, didn't you?
I wanted to play in the beta.
I need to know that you're with me on this.
Right, brothers. In arms. Brothers.
That was also an EA game.
Another incredible EA product.
Can you believe this Star Wars Battlefront 2 horse shit?
Nah, man. I'll put that up at the top I don't think the phrase sell you your own ass is necessarily appropriate for this particular phrasing, but just the idea that I assume that would be the apex If they could sell you your own asshole Yeah That's more or less what PSN and XBL are, just a mechanism by which to sell you your own friends Right It's a pretty good system, I'll pay we're boycotting battlefront 2 right i mean you're with me right no i mean i wonder if i wonder if it's more like a we come right out and say it like just from the front it's just like you know listen we're boycotting oh
like we're talking to the audience yeah exactly but gabe has already purchased it yeah is it so if you pre -order so that's that's that's like if you don't like order something right yes that's boycotting is not ordering isn't that you wouldn't order it or buy it.
So pre -ordering is okay.
No. No pre -ordering is the same as buying...
It's actually worse.
It's way worse. Yeah.
Did you pre -order it?
Let's talk after this, Jim.
Is his camera still on?
Yeah, his idea is that it's like not ordering.
He sort of thinks, alright, it's good.
It's not ordering. You didn't buy it, did you?
I did not buy it, no. That's an interesting question.
It shouldn't be that interesting.
It should be very straightforward. We here at Penny Arcade are with you.
What's that language?
Yeah, exactly. We stand alongside our brothers and sisters in denouncing EA, the vile EA.
In immortal, non -denominational phalanx.
We too will not be purchased.
We stand with our brothers and sisters in an immortal, non -denominational phalanx dedicated to not dedicated to not purchasing dedicated to not purchasing or dedicated to a boycott an all out boycott of Star Wars Battlefront 2 due to the heinous crimes well everybody knows what's going on yeah a boycott is like when you don't order something right and I support that 100 % we also think girls should caught it what it's not boycott Gabe should say girls should not exactly yeah everyone should caught i don't think it should just be boys not this time it's too important it's too important girls can caught
as well i think girls should caught it too i hate you so much also i bought star wars already also i already bought it girls should feel all an all -out boycott girls should feel invited to caught it as well Listen Listen This one's too important This one's too important Hey We need We need girls To cot it too I wanna make sure that Girls Also feel like they can cot Girls too though Girls need to cot this one It's very important Girls You gotta cot this motherfucker I don't think he would swear though This is serious time gotcha okay it's just too important it's just too important yeah that was the sort
of thing where it's like that's like the background and then we're sort of like looking at it from the side like now it's just like after the statement yeah now book cutting is when you do order or don't order you do pre -order or you don't pre -order don't order order don't order it's a big part of it don't it's when you don't interesting no it's it's when you don't order it's a it's a whole that's the whole point it's a big part of it yeah big part of it yeah not ordering is a big part of it where do pre -orders fit into that it's a kind of order and therefore unacceptable so where am i i pre -ordered
it where does that put me like in in the mix what if i only pre -ordered it that's that's way way worse right that's basically the worst you're the worst sort of person imagine if satan was also a nazi yeah i like it so what do we have there it says we stand with our brothers and sisters in an immortal non -denominational phalanx dedicated to an all -out boycott of star wars battlefront 2 let Let me see how they...
Parse that? Yeah, how they write Battlefront II.
I think they do I -I.
In text, yes, exactly.
One never knows. Yeah.
But there's no capitalization on the F.
It's one single word. Hmm.
Yeah. We invite girls to cut this one as well.
It can't just be the boys on this one.
Can't just be the boys this time.
We invite the girls to cut this one as well.
Can't just be the boys.
It's too important.
boycotting is when you do order or don't order now boycotting is when you do order or you don't order you don't know quick question question it's when you don't order not ordering is a big part of it yeah what if i only pre -ordered it where does that put me i have imagined if satan was also a nazi but i don't know i think it's funny it's too harsh it's i think there's something else there let me know so i don't want to put any nazi stuff in it it's too weird yeah sure where does that put me it puts you in hell with the devil no no with your best friend the devil your best friend the devil What does
that put? It puts you in hell You're based on the devil That's good That's too much Nice Oh, when I cast the pot It's like I cast the rod Keeping it hard Like a motherfucker Gas revive I'm realing cod Today's fresh catch I mean a podcast Something about nets Yes, it gets bitter When it's winter I'm fettered by my fish Gear catch and release Get in that crease When my fish near Talk about a plant best laid Off that stray And yes, I crave That tuna with his Peck fence blade But while I'm glistening the whole sea you better listen in to tlc i got that i got that wild card salmon it's tender and it's
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