and four, we had come to a point where the end to end prototype was working.
And so how was it? Like what, what did it look like?
So we could go to different websites, get the information summarized.
If it was a single page, you could look at all the information unless you were trying to make a decision on, you know, uh, sofas or lamps.
You could put them all together.
You could have a comment on them.
So the basic prototype of the product was working as it now is the time to really make a decision.
I want to find out who wants to jump in and quit their jobs and put their lives on the risk.
Who wants to sort of be an advisor kind of a thing.
Who's going to contribute and only join us when we have funding.
And I had to sit down because I had two young kids, you know, I was in a secure job.
I had everything. I had a mortgage and I had to sort of think it through.
So I went back and it just so happened that my mom, that winter was visiting from India because there was a cousin's wedding.
And so I got a chance to talk to her.
And my mom said, you know, I think you should do it.
I can see that even though we kept saying it was because we cut down marketing, investors just had a hard time.
They needed a long runway of growth before they would fund the company.
So it kind of delayed by funding by almost a year and a half before I could raise a real proper round.
But in hindsight, I felt like it was probably one of the most bold, painful, but probably correct decision that I made in this journey of Pashmark.
And had you not done it, what do you think could have happened?
I think, I think I fear that, you know, we would have lots of failed transactions, our customers would have churned and gone away.
And ultimately, you know, we would, we could have crashed.
We could have completely crashed instead through this whole process of cutting out marketing, I hired some of the key executives.
Our head of growth joined us in spring of 2014.
I shared with him, I said, you know, for six months, I can't give you any money.
He said, no, let me help join.
Our head of data joined at that time.
And so I felt like we build the management team as well, besides sort of building the infrastructure, but we built the management team, not fair weather fence, which we actually found foul weather fence who would actually stick around and luckily none of my co-founders left.
They're still all here.
And so we actually ended up forming a lot of grit and character through that sort of year.
And, and, and, and I think form a lot of bonds where we all sort of almost kind of had a second startup from 2014 onwards, we did to restart growth, rebuild the infrastructure.