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Thank you listener, and welcome into speaking part three about old people.
Rory, can i actually say old people?
I wouldn't say old people, i would say older people, older people, right.
Or i can say the elderly, yeah.
Or we could just Yeah, it's a minefield, because you don't want to upset people about their age.
Some people are very sensitive about this.
Yeah, but what should you say?
What do people say not to upset other people?
Older people?
I think they just say older people or elderly people.
Elderly.
There you go.
Elderly people to listen to.
Be politically correct and nice.
What things can young people learn from older people?
Well generally, they tend to know more about how to do practical things for themselves, because they grew up without as much tech as we have now.
So younger people could learn how to cook or clean or do the washing without relying on machines.
How do people have a conversation with an elderly person?
What a question.
Probably in the same way they can with just about everybody else, to be honest, assuming the older person isn't deaf, or something like that.
You just sit and navigate the topics together and create interest and balance the chat.
It's not hard.
Why might older people be better at working than young people?
I think that will largely depend on the type of work we're on about here.
But older people might have better attention spans than younger people, since they're in decline in younger people.
That might make them better at counseling and therapy.
They also have more life experience to draw on.
But it's got to be the right sort in order for it to be useful in this way.
What are the advantages of having people of different ages living in the same house?
Well, every generation has its strong suit, doesn't it?
Older people have wisdom.
And there can be a consistency of traditions smoothly passing and evolving from one generation to the next if they're in close proximity.
In your country, how do young people interact with the elderly?
Oh, not a great deal outside of their grandparents, to be honest.
Some people have an elderly neighbor or relative they might get on well with, but overall it's just isolated encounters.
Communities are a lot more fragmented than they used to be, which makes things like that more difficult.
Has old people's life quality improved compared to the past?
Oh, categorically not.
They're living longer, but there's an epidemic of loneliness as they get shut away in homes and increasing cases of dementia and other related illnesses.
And just a general lack of care, really.
It's absolutely pathetic, but not at all surprising.
In what situations do old people share the same interests as young people?
Oh, God.
Well, wherever there's a common interest.
They might enjoy the same hobbies or live in similar places with the same amenities.
And, of course, they share a culture, even if it's constantly evolving.
I suppose they might also share similar levels of low empowerment, because power is concentrated in the hands of the wealthier and more able-bodied.
So the rights of younger people who have less money and older people who are less physically able need to be protected too.
Just for different reasons.
So young people or younger people and older people, they listen, yeah?
These are typical IELTS questions about the old and the young.
Older people tend to know more about certain things, about practical things.
They grew up without as much technology, without as much tech as we have now.
And if we think about what we had 10 years ago, we didn't have that much technology.
I really didn't.
Like, it's weird how things have progressed.
I'm wearing wireless earbuds talking into an easily accessible microphone.
That's weird.
I know.
Crazy, huh?
So it's pretty much all about technology.
So younger people can learn practical things from older people, like cooking cleaning, doing the washing, like fixing things.
So things that have to be done without machines, without chat GPT.
And then a very stupid question.
How do I have a conversation with an old person?
And then Rory laughed.
It's okay to laugh in the speaking test.
Okay, dear listener?
Yeah, not at the examiner.
No, you don't laugh at them.
No, you just laugh because kind of it's funny.
And then you can say like, oh, what a question.
Wow, what a question.
What a strange question.
Yeah, so this is like a natural reaction.
That's absolutely fine to do.
But some of the questions are weird.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you can say like, probably in the same way they can have a conversation with just about anybody.
So just about anybody like everybody.
Deaf is an adjective, meaning a person can't hear anything, so An older person could be deaf.
They can't hear you.
You just sit and navigate the topics together.
So navigate, you kind of control the topics.
Well, you don't control them, but you cover the topics.
You talk about them.
Yeah, cover, cover them.
And you create interest and you balance the chat.
You ask questions, you answer questions.
This is like a normal conversation.
About work, you can start.
That is largely depend on the type of work.
So it largely depends on the type of work.
And then older people might have better attention spans so they can focus for longer periods of time.
Young people, like teenagers, for example, well, they usually cannot.
And older people might be better at counseling and therapy.
Does counseling mean talk during the therapy or just when two friends are talking?
Oh, it can be neither.
Sometimes counsellor is like a professional well position, but other times it's a personal thing between two people who know each other.
Older people have more life experience to draw on.
Okay, so this is a nice verb.
So older people can draw on their life experience.
And in some professions it's important.
I can't think which which no, but it could be just i don't know enough about older people in the workplace.
Oh, maybe like a journalist i don't know journalists or again therapists doctors, like surgeons, for example.
You don't want like a young surgeon, Why not?
Okay, I have like one year experience.
No, I wouldn't go to such a person.
You might not get the chance or the choice even to choose that sort of decision.
I think that would be very difficult.
No, but come on, you would agree like, if kind of you can choose, you would choose like a doctor who has some experience to draw on, like 10 years, 26 years.
Okay, 30 years rather than... Okay, half a year.
Give me your teeth.
I don't know, as long as it's good experience.
Well, this is it, you see.
People talk about getting experienced teachers.
But do they want a teacher that's got 20 years experience doing the same thing or 20 years experience doing a variety of things?
Yeah, not too much, not too much.
We can have people of different ages in the same house, so any advantages here.
We can talk about generation, so a different generation, and rory told us every generation has its strong Suit.
Strong suit.
Yeah, something they're good at.
Yeah, like older people are good... at practical things, they have their life experience to draw on.
Younger people are usually good with technology, with like the latest gadgets.
You see, so each generation has its strong suit.
What's your strong suit?
Oh, I have no idea.
Teaching.
Say teaching.
Oh my god, say teaching.
No, I don't think so.
Charisma.
Is that not part of being a good teacher?
Well, it's just part of being a lovely person.
Okay, that's good enough for me.
Older people have wisdom, so they are wise.
They have a good grasp of something.
Young people know about technology, so they have a good grasp of technology.
That just means their understanding of it is very good, though, how to use it.
Yeah, or you can use it as a verb.
So young people grasp technology. technologies so they understand.
Coming down the pipeline.
What is this?
Coming down the pipeline is just in the future.
Yeah.
So if something comes down the pipeline, it will appear in the future.
And if people are in close proximity, they are close together.
They live close together in one neighborhood, for example.
So it's nice to have relatives in close proximity.
Or people live in close proximity.
But that just means... living in the same space as well close together close proximity interact or communicate is it a choice you're giving me no it's just like a synonym interact communicate older people or the elderly and we talk about like grandparents grandmothers Like an elderly neighbor or an elderly relative you can have.
So people might get on well with an elderly neighbor have good relationship with, get on well with daily sonar okay.
There are some communities.
However, they're a lot more fragmented, that means separated, than they used to be.
So they don't work together as often as they used to.
Older people's life quality has improved compared to the past, you can say.
Again, present perfect, dear listener.
So there, life has improved.
Rory said that not.
I think that yes.
But also there is loneliness.
So there is an epidemic of loneliness.
And older people can suffer from loneliness.
They get shut away in homes, in special homes for old people.
So the elderly could get shut away in special homes.
And it would be good if that did not happen.
And we have a lot of cases of dementia.
How do you pronounce this?
Dementia.
Dementia.
Yeah, this illness.
Yeah, and related illnesses and like a general lack of care.
Or you can say that their life quality has improved due to technology.
Smartphones yeah, like everybody is.
In dutch these days we can compare all the people's interests, like they have the same interests as young people.
Their interests are common or they have a lot of things in common, or they don't have many things in common.
Also, speak about technology here.
They might enjoy the same hobbies, they might live in similar places with the same amenities.
Amenities or facilities like the same restaurants, the same gyms, yoga centers cafes, restaurants.
They share culture, they share a similar culture and they might share similar levels of low empowerment.
Well, it's just, empowerment is the ability to do things and make choices about your life, and I don't think old people have that as much as people in like in their mid-50s, for example.
In the same way, children don't have as many rights as people who are older than them.
Sweet.
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What things can young people learn from older people?
Well generally, they tend to know more about how to do practical things for themselves, because they grew up without as much tech as we have now.
So younger people could learn how to cook or clean or do the washing without relying on machines.
How do people have a conversation with an elderly person?
What a question.
Probably in the same way they can with just about everybody else, to be honest, assuming the older person isn't deaf, or something like that.
You just sit and navigate the topics together and create interest and balance the chat.
It's not hard.
Why might older people be better at working than young people?
I think that will largely depend on the type of work we're on about here.
But older people might have better attention spans than younger people, since they're in decline in younger people.
That might make them better at counseling and therapy.
They also have more life experience to draw on.
But it's got to be the right sort in order for it to be useful in this way.
What are the advantages of having people of different ages living in the same house?
Well, every generation has its strong suit, doesn't it?
Older people have wisdom.
And there can be a consistency of traditions smoothly passing and evolving from one generation to the next if they're in close proximity.
In your country, how do young people interact with the elderly?
Oh, not a great deal outside of their grandparents, to be honest.
Some people have an elderly neighbor or relative they might get on well with, but overall it's just isolated encounters.
Communities are a lot more fragmented than they used to be, which makes things like that more difficult.
Has old people's life quality improved compared to the past?
Oh, categorically not.
They're living longer, but there's an epidemic of loneliness as they get shut away in homes and increasing cases of dementia and other related illnesses.
And just a general lack of care, really.
It's absolutely pathetic, but not at all surprising.
In what situations do old people share the same interests as young people?
Oh, God.
Well, wherever there's a common interest.
They might enjoy the same hobbies or live in similar places with the same amenities.
And of course they share a culture, even if it's constantly evolving.
I suppose they might also share similar levels of low empowerment, because power is concentrated in the hands of the wealthier and more able-bodied.
So the rights of younger people who have less money and older people who are less physically able need to be protected too, just for different reasons.
