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OK, Owen. is such a special person to me because Owen and I, have a lot in common.
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Things people love. I just have to tell you a story.
I'm starting your interview off by telling a story.
That's exactly how I want it. About me. About you.
Delicious. Literally delicious. Listen, I just have to tell somebody about this.
Yesterday... I had overnight oats for breakfast.
Of course. It was 9 a.m. I have overnight oats.
Wait, this morning. Yesterday. This was yesterday.
Excuse me. Yes. Got it. I have a workout class at 9.50.
I don't think anything of it. I normally... don't eat right before I exercise just because it just like hurts my stomach.
Like it just doesn't feel good. But I was like, whatever.
Wait, so you have it 50 5-0 minutes before.
5-0 minutes before. Do you plan this or do you just wake up and eat it?
Well, I was just like, I'm actually feeling peckish this morning and I feel like oatmeal will not... bother my stomach like I feel like this is probably the only thing I can eat before a workout so like this is fine okay got it Then.
So I go to this workout class, not thinking anything of it.
And I get into class. It's like running and then weights. type vibe, like bootcamp vibe, you know?
Of course. So I go in, I'm not thinking anything of it.
I get on the treadmill. Immediately, I'm a little late.
So I had to like start running immediately to not...
You know, like, I get a little competitive.
You don't have a moment. I did not have a fucking moment.
Got it. I get straight into... running fast.
They're like, we're sprinting this morning right now.
Wish you well. I start feeling a little rumbling.
The sprinting was over. I like go to walk.
And I burp a little bit. Owen. Oatmeal?
I can't believe this is real. Oatmeal flies out of my nose onto the treadmill.
Wait, are you serious? This is not a fucking joke.
Full oatmeal coming out of your nose. Full...
O'Meal. Wait, I have a question. Throw up.
O'Meal came out of my nose. So does it come at all out of your mouth?
No, because I felt it about to come out of my mouth and I was like, I'm just going to swallow it.
But then I didn't swallow it in time. Now it's in the track.
It came... Oh my God, it's like post-nasal drip of the nose with oatmeal.
I had like chunks of oats in like my sinuses for like a day.
Wait, is it on the treadmill now? It was under the treadmill, but then it flew under really fast.
Of course. And there's oatmeal on my shirt.
I was like, what the fuck? So what did you do?
Nothing So you just continue the workout class as if nothing, literally the music's like boom, boom.
You have like oatmeal all over yourself.
You're like, I'm just going to keep running.
I'm just going to do weights now. Yes. Three pounds or four.
That's what I did. I'm in hell. I don't know what I...
I knew that someone had to know about this.
It's been hard for me the last 24 hours. well yeah have you told anyone this just my mom and dad And what did they say?
They're nervous for you. They're like...
No one could believe that this was real.
Have I told you my SoulCycle story? No, please tell me.
Please tell me. Oh, my God. I used to be obsessed with SoulCycle.
Me too. No, no, no. Before class, before high school, I would... literally drive to SoulCycle 6 a.m., do a class, okay?
I was so obsessed because I loved this teacher.
I secretly had a crush on him. Of course.
Because you have to have a crush on your SoulCycle teachers.
That is the only point. Totally. 100%. You need to be making sexy eye contact.
Exactly. Yeah. They would try... My friends would try to make me go to this woman named Gina, who's a great teacher.
She's one of the best. But I was like...
No, I can't have a crush on her, so I can't go.
No. I was like, this is impossible. So anyways, I would literally go at 6 a.m., Do my day.
And then I had theater after school. So it was like three to six theater.
You know what I mean? Not to brag or anything. but I was in theater.
And then I would go to an 8.30 class. Okay, so I think I was addicted to SoulCycle.
But this was like a month in my life. This wasn't like...
It sounds really unhealthy and toxic, and it probably was, but for a month, you can be unhealthy and toxic.
Like, if it continued, I think everyone would have been nervous.
But, so, I was doing this, okay? I... This was at the 8.30 class.
I had eaten all my meals, all, you know, eaten great things.
Like, my school had... like breakfast burritos like really gorgeous things so I was just like pigging out all day every day That night 8.30 came around.
My stomach was a little weird. I think the breakfast burrito like did something to me, but I didn't really, I kind of ignored it.
I was like, whatever, you know, this is, I need to be here.
I need, you need, I needed to be at this class to flirt with this, God, you didn't know I existed.
You know that they saw you on the list. 100%.
And it's like now there's like this expectation like, oh, if I don't show up, like that's like almost like not showing up to date.
Literally. It literally goes through on a date.
No, it's a date. It's a date with 60 people.
It's a date with 60 people you've never met before and you're sweating.
So I'm now sitting... I've now, you kind of move up.
You are sitting third row, second row, first row.
You go so often that you kind of, you keep having to move up.
You know what I'm saying? You level up. Yes.
So this guy I had a crush on asked me to be on podium.
Which means that he wanted me to take his place on the podium and he was just going to walk around.
It's literally like you're instructing the class.
Yes, exactly. Like you are at the front of the room.
Exactly. And he was like, I think you deserve it.
I was like, today? My stomach's a little... He was like, you're fine.
Owen, how many times have you done this?
I was like, you're right, like 60 times.
Like I've done this a million times. I can do this.
So I got on podium. I think he had sprained his ankle.
That's why he couldn't do it. So I was like, I can do this.
And I had a crush on him. So I was like, I got you.
You know what I mean? Of course. In this like sexy sweet way.
He had no idea what was happening. Well, you have to be like the cool hot.
Totally. I was like, this is crazy. Okay.
Yeah, I guess it's fine. Yeah, exactly. Literally.
Yeah. So I get on podium. Music is blasting.
It's like something bad. like some bad music is playing.
Always. Like a bad remix of like a good song.
That's all they play at work. 100%. We need to figure out why that is.
I know. It actually upsets me. It ruins the experience.
We'll get back to that. So I'm now on Podium.
I would say 15 minutes into the class. I'm farting at this point.
But I'm like, just... And you know what?
Oh, my God, this is going to be graphic.
But you know when, like, you think something's going to happen?
Yes, yes. Like, you think you're going to shit yourself?
Yes. You don't. And you're so thankful.
So I fart a little and I'm like, here it comes.
And nothing happens. And I was like, I'm a king.
I was like, I manipulated my body into just farting.
I'm like, this is iconic. So I'm riding, riding, riding, riding.
And then another fart happens. And it's now I'm like, I think it happened.
But I was not sure. So I was kind of going, put with my hand a little bit underneath my seat to see if I feel anything.
So I was like, I'm a king, okay? End of class.
It reeks. on stage, it's starting to reek on stage.
And I was like, I fully shit myself. Like I know for a fact I shit myself.
So literally stretching is happening. And like, you know, teachers judge you when you don't stretch.
They're like. If you have to leave, leave now.
You know how they do that? So I'm on podium.
So I'm like, I do. So I was like, I'm so sorry.
I look at him. I'm like, I just have to go.
He was like, like gave me a look and I was like, that's the end of our relationship.
Now I've ruined our relationship, but I've shit myself, right?
So after I go out, tiny little smear of something.
Totally fine. I mean, really embarrassing, but totally fine.
I was like, no one knows. My friends in front row came up to me and they go, you shot yourself during class?
After I thought I got away with it, they were like, it reeked.
They're like, what happened? And by the way, the teacher doesn't work there anymore.
Not because of me, but I see him a lot because he lives near me, so he's always walking his dog.
But... I feel like I have to be like, by the way, I just need to apologize for a year and a half ago when I shit myself and shot myself in front of you.
But I also don't know if he... I mean, he probably knows.
But what do you think I should do about this?
I mean, honestly, like... I think you just kind of play dumb.
Like if you like go up to him and you're still a little flirty.
Sorry, Jared. No, I have to be flirty. I mean, it's fine, Jared.
Jared, I have to be flirty. Jared, it's literally fine.
Literally me just looking into the camera.
Jared, I have to be flirty. Jared, it's fine.
This time is fine. If you just like are so hot still...
And you, like, play that character, then he's like, there's no way that...
He shit. I want another bodily function to happen when I'm talking to him now.
Like, I want to be like... Hey, and then like just pee myself or just throw up.
No, you should do the nose throw up. It's not really good.
Totally with oatmeal. With overnight oats just like out of my, pouring out of my nose.
I can't believe, like. That's really, I'm so sorry that happened to you.
No, I'm so sorry that happened to you. I can't tell you whose story is worse.
No, I feel like Okay, I feel like mine's more embarrassing, but I feel like yours is weird.
Do you know what I mean? I feel like if you ask how many people shit themselves in SoulCycle, I feel like some people would say, Oh, I've almost shit myself in SoulCycle and at Barry's.
At every workout class, I've at least... almost shit myself.
It's not at a little smear. The... kind of nose full of oatmeal is shocking, staggering, and weird.
You know what I mean? It's like, whoa. It's a little bit... It's strange, but...
It's so crazy. Okay, we need to explain to everyone how...
Our brains are the same. So, yeah. We have the same brain.
Like, when I... No, I think you're like a long lost sister, twin.
We're twins. No, I know. And we look so alike, which is like, every time I see you, I'm like...
Okay, twin. What? Owen? I was like, Owen with long hair.
I was like, what's happening here? Well, everyone says that to me.
No, I know. We are twins. We're twins. But no, like, we—the things that we're paranoid about— like we have the same sources of anxiety and we're like, We're freaked out about the same things.
We're like wired the same way. It's true.
It's insane like the way that we're on a social level, on an anxiety level, on every level.
We are the same. I know. Have you ever met anyone... When I met you and...
You were talking about the same anxieties as me?
Yes. I was like, it's nuanced. It's not just like, oh, we're anxious about friends in this way and this way.
No. Like, It's the same nuance. You know what I mean?
And then I texted them. It's like, why'd you text?
Because only we would text them. You know what I'm saying?
Saying, like, we are the... It's weird. Well, like, I feel like some of... I'm trying to think about, like, good... of things we do.
We'll play tag. I give one, then you give one.
Okay, go. When I think of us, I think of...
Well, I think if number one, we are so afraid of people being mad at us.
We think everyone's mad at us. Speaking of that, I think multiple people are mad at me right now.
Interesting. So do I. Of course. Well, I mean, I think I always do.
I think my parents are mad at me. No, I... They haven't answered my text in...
I think an hour. No, I literally... Okay, for me, it's like...
It's like not people though that I'm close with.
Like I think like people like other people in this industry just hate me.
Totally. But I don't know if it's true. I just... And we're friends.
But you're like, they despise me. But I'm like, I think that they hate me recently.
What I'm trying to figure out is why... Why do we care that people are mad?
For me, it's out of fear that they will retaliate against me and ruin my life somehow but like in a way that's unfair Do you know what I'm saying?
I totally get that. See, hearing you say it, I'm like...
That's just anxiety. Nobody hates you. Everyone loves you.
But like... I feel that way too. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, 100%. I'm nervous about not being at the table and people being like...
Owen. I know. That's what I'm nervous about.
I know. It's scary. I've come to a point now as somebody who enjoys gossip to an extent.
Not like gossip in like a, within the safe space.
You know this. 100... But I think that's healthy.
I can... Again, completely agree. Like, I...
Because I find a level of gossip and analysis about other people as beneficial-
Totally. I have now come to a place where I like accept the fact that I am also the topic.
Of some of these. I just like wonder what people are saying about me.
I would do anything. I know, I would die to be the fly on the wall, but also, like, would we?
Like we just have to be confident. I mean, this is also like what my therapist says to me, which I like I'm hearing during therapy.
And then after I'm like, Ignore. You know what I mean?
But why do we want that? Why do we want to know what people are saying about us?
Is this so narcissistic? Please. I don't know exactly... what someone would be saying about me.
I can't- No, I don't think that's narcissistic at all.
I think that's the opposite of narcissistic.
Being like, what would someone say about me?
I can't pinpoint it. That's like nuts. Wait, we should guess.
Let's both really, as a therapeutic activity, let's both try.
What are people saying about you? I think they're saying I'm flaky.
When are you flaky? Like when I don't want to hang out with people, I get flaky.
Yeah, but that's just being like... I don't want to right now.
That's totally fine. Totally. When anyone cancels plans on me, I'm like...
Even if I fucking adore the person. Yeah.
It could be my parents. Totally. Okay, like the people I just absolutely adore the most.
Yeah. And I'd be like, honestly, like, thank God.
100%. I'm going to totally have a great night.
We established that early on in our relationship.
Absolutely. We were like, If you need to cancel, just cancel.
We don't care. Don't care. And it's also like not personal.
Totally. I think the reason why either of us could come off as flaky, because we both have this in common, is because when somebody says like, Hey, do you want to do this?
We're so afraid of being like... No. Totally.
So we're like, yes. We want to just be like, yes, always, yes.
Totally. Because we don't want to kill the vibe.
I'm getting better about this because I'm like... Because I...
I can't do it anymore. Like I've figured out That canceling later is more stressful than canceling up front.
I know. You've taught me this. Yeah. Because like, just honestly, for a selfish reason, less stressful.
No, it's way less stressful and it's way less like dynamics to deal with.
And then you're apologizing. I don't want to live my life apologizing.
No. Okay, how do you think people talk shit about me?
Like, I'm trying to think of somebody I know who doesn't like me, right?
I don't know anybody who doesn't like you, but I'm also like...
I love you. You're a very good friend of mine and I'm a fan of yours.
I don't know... Anyone who doesn't like you.
But I think if people were going to say something about me, it would be like...
Okay, you know what I think it would be about me?
Go for it. Is... I think that I'll like when there's somebody that maybe I don't like as much.
I'm always going to be... nice and respectful as an adult, okay?
Always nice and respectful. But there will be a point where I'll hit a wall with like, being overly nice or like being overly like, agreeable with them and I'll hit a point where I'm like, no, I'm putting my foot down now and I'm actually like, not going to be as nice because I like actually run out and it takes a lot for me to get to this point. but then I will run out and then I can get really cold, but I think it can happen really fast.
And people are like, what the fuck? People are shocked by it.
But it doesn't happen a lot. And usually it's like, I would argue from my POV...
It's justified and necessary and also very much deserved.
But I think it would be like she turns into a fucking cold bitch fast.
Let's see. But I think that's a boundary.
You know what I mean? It's just like, because you put up a boundary.
Well, maybe it's also like in comparison to how I was before.
Because I... My baseline is like, okay, I overdo it, if anything.
Totally. With my trying to make everyone feel good and comfortable. and all of this even if I'm faking it at times because I prefer to fake it than to be Totally.
Cold. Like I'd rather... I think it's actually good to fake it sometimes.
I... I think being fake is a different thing than... than putting it on a little.
It's more devious. It's devious. Am I wrong?
No, I think it is. being like nice to people to just make sure everyone feels good is... That's like a people pleaser.
That's like a people pleaser and that's also just like...
I don't know. I think it's rooted in wanting to do the right thing. when you're fake, it's like there's a devious intent.
Do you know what I mean? you're not ever turning your back being like, what a bitch.
You know what I mean? Like, ew, her dress.
How comforting is this to know? This is probably what people are saying about us.
How bad is it really? It's actually not that bad.
I'm flaky and you're cold sometimes. Okay.
That's actually really nice. That's actually... I want them to say it more.
I know. I'm a flaky, gorgeous pastry. And you're a cold... piece of something delish.
It's just a cold little ice cube. Cucumber.
I'm a little cute, cool little cucumber.
You're cool as a cucumber. No, I actually don't think it's that bad.
I think there's probably more things that like middle America would say about me, like being like...
Black and gay with acrylic nails. You know they're projecting.
No, I know. No, I know. And they're like... damn, the skin color is so rich.
They're like, I just... I just need to come to LA, my love.
I think people in middle America who are like racist or homophobic or whatever. should just come to LA, get a little tan, go to the nail salon.
Feel good. Feel good. It's so crazy that when you feel good, you just don't really care about what anyone else is doing.
I know it actually is true. It's kind of like pretty easy.
I know. That's what it's really rooted in.
It's like if you don't feel good, Then you get a little nasty.
Then you get a little nasty. Yeah, totally.
Then you get a little nasty. Who does that remind me of?
You get a little El Raven Simone and that's a raven.
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Okay, listen. No, do you know what I want to hear about?
What? I think people romanticize the idea of being an actor and going to shoot a movie and, you know, being somewhere like unusual or not where you live or whatever.
Totally. like even I romanticize it as somebody who has never been in any type of acting film project really at all.
Like, I think even I romanticize this idea of being an actor.
Because since we're young, we're like, oh, like...
It's so glamorous. But I don't think it is because the more I like... hear stories from people who are actors and talk to you, I'm like, this doesn't actually sound that glitz and glamour.
Like what's it like living? that life? That's an interesting question because I feel like I'm so lucky to... just be an actor.
Like, I get to go to a place and act all day and go into a...
Most of the time I don't have trailers because that's for like the Jennifer Aniston's of the world, but like a trailer, like a room. and eat my food and whatever and then go act again.
Like a dream, literally a dream. But I do think going to unusual places, being alone... with people you don't know you're making friends but sometimes you're not really making friends sometimes it's awkward sometimes you don't want to make friends.
I think it's hard sometimes. And I know that sounds insane.
No, I agree. I think I'm like... Sometimes it's really taxing.
No. It sounds crazy because it's like, oh, and –
Shut up. You get to like... You get driven to set.
You know what I mean? Like... I'm like, someone comes up to me and is like, do you want a coffee?
And I'm like, would love one with Coffee Mate.
You know what I mean? Like, it's not that, like...
Yes. Fuck you. But I also understand like I think you can be grateful for it and understand how like... awesome it is that you're there, but also to acknowledge like, Okay, it's like very isolating.
Like to me, the way I perceive it is... Okay, number one...
You're lonely because you're kind of in the middle of nowhere because I rarely hear about a movie or a show being shot. in like New York City or Dallas, Texas.
Like some place that's like... where there's a lot of people, I feel like I always hear about it I mean, sometimes shot in L.A. for sure.
Yeah. Which is one thing. Yeah. But I don't know.
I feel like I hear a lot about, oh, I have to go to...
Portugal for six months in the middle of nowhere.
Oh, I have to go to, you know, a rural area in Canada for...
Three months. It almost feels like you're quarantining.
Totally. Well, it is. You know what I mean?
I love how you're asking me about this. It's like, I've been in three productions.
That's enough, though, to know. Because I also think it's actually good.
Because you still remember life before, like what you thought it was going to be like.
Totally. Totally. And then you know now what it is like.
So you have like a very balanced view of what it truly is.
Well, also, no one knows me on set. I feel like if you're very famous and you walk in, or famous at all, and you walk in, people are like, let me make it the best experience and for me it's a little different that being said like The sets that I've been on... Mm-hmm. have mostly been with my friends.
That's amazing. So I've been really lucky because it's been like, even if I've, even if I am alone and I like. you also as an actor you're milking it right so like I'm alone in North Carolina and I have a rental car that they gave me and it's just like I'm just like, this is horrible.
I'm just driving around crying to Adele or Taylor Swift or whatever, being like, this is my life you know getting a call being like will you come in for a fitting it's like A fitting.
It's just, like, so not that bad. And then you get to sit with your friends.
So, like... Okay, so it actually sounds like the best job ever.
No, like I'm very lucky, but I do think like...
Getting here, like even doing, getting onto a set is also the hard part.
You know what I'm saying? Totally. Auditioning is hell.
Mm-hmm. you rarely get anything. And most of the notes are like, you'll catch them next time.
You know what I mean? we went in a different direction it's like and you're looking at the screen and it's like I'm a black gay man and they went with like You know what I mean?
And you're like, well, yeah, you went in a totally different direction.
It's like, yeah. Why did I audition for this?
We're going to pick a woman. But it's also like, why'd you waste my time?
So that's upsetting. And I feel like that gets to you a little.
Feeling like you wasted your time. Yeah, and also feeling like...
It's just not going to happen. Like you're like, when is this ever going to happen for me?
Yes, yes, 100%. And then so when you do get to a set, I think I've been in that mindset for so long that when I do get to a set, I'm so grateful.
And I'm like, I don't care if I'm alone.
I'll go to Outback every meal. Thank God I'm alone on a set.
You know what I mean? Yes. So I romanticize it in that way.
But I do think like... The Jennifer Anistons and Timothee Chalamets of the world... Mm-hmm.
You're having a delicious time on set. I know.
I wonder if they are though. No, they probably aren't because they also are expected to do a lot.
Maybe it's just hard. There's going to be... a challenge no matter if you're Beyonce.
Or whatever. Then more is expected of you than you're carrying the movie.
Because you're the face of the movie. Totally.
Like, I'm lucky. I was... in a show called Dollface, and I was played... the assistant of a wonderful actress named Kat Dennings.
And I would just kind of come in and say... a line a weird line funny line and then I she'd be like okay, bye.
And I'd be like, bye. Like literally it was like one little, and I was, it was great.
You know what I mean? I wasn't carrying it.
I could be myself. But she was exhausted. because she's carrying the show.
But I'm also fascinated by... acting because I think there's like two types.
There's like acting as you. So going on, being in a movie, and being you.
And then there's going and being a completely different character.
Are you more excited about being you in a movie or are you more excited about being a character?
Even if it's just a little bit of a character.
I've never, like... there's a movie coming out in July called Theater Camp that I'm in that I made with My friends cast me in, which is so nice.
I literally made them cast me in. It's like nepotism, but like with my friends.
I... Anyways, that, I had to play a camp counselor.
I was the costume designer. Mm-hmm. I like fashion, but I don't know about fashion.
You know what I mean? So I had to play this bitchy kind of costume designer. which felt not like me, but also it was just me.
Like I played it as myself. So it's this interesting thing where it's like I've only, the things that I've done, I've really only kind of played versions of me.
Well, you can kind of make any character...
You kind of have to pull from your own- 100%.
Catalog of- 100%. traits in a way like I think it would be really a whole different style of acting to like create an entirely new character, but then that's why you see somebody like Austin Butler still talking like Elvis.
Totally. Because you could really become the character to a point where it's like, oh my God, I can't turn it off.
Because it's like... at what point it kind of actually just becomes you in a way.
Because once you like... No, it's really scary.
Imagine playing like Ted Bundy. Imagine playing a serial killer.
I would not want to be alone. What's the guy's name in the Ted Bundy show?
Maybe Zac Efron? Question mark? Oh, my God.
No, I made that up. No, it was. That's right.
Is it Zac Efron? Yes! I knew it. Can I be honest?
Totally. Totally. I totally never cared about Zac Efron, like high school musical days.
Oh, it wasn't your thing? I did not think Zac Efron was hot.
What? What's going on? Let's talk about this.
What? I really was not attracted to Zac Efron at all.
I thought he was not cute. But you know who I did have a crush on?
Who? Do you remember the Naked Brothers band?
Of course. What's their names? I don't. Something Wolf.
Yes. And I had a huge crush on them. I also had a huge crush on...
The main character in Diary of a Wimpy Kid, the movie.
Not an Alex Wolfe. Yes. Okay, keep going.
Yes, they were. They're even still. Diary of a Wimpy Kid.
Diary of a Wimpy Kid main character. He was like the most normal-looking 11-year-old boy.
He was so sweet-looking. But I was obsessed.
And what was his name? Don't know. But I was obsessed.
I literally had the biggest crush on him.
I had, like, weird crushes. Like... I mean, I also like the Jonas Brothers.
Who didn't? I mean, for me it was Nick, but then...
I got older and like Joe. Whatever. We exist.
Where are you now with that? Foursome. Of course.
Whatever I just heard. I know them personally and I have to leave this in.
But I do know them personally. You would have a foursome with them.
Yes. They're brothers. Can I explain why I would have a foursome with them?
Well, okay, because... So number one, like they all have something different to bring to the table.
For me, Nick Jonas provides this sort of like he's just kinda like, he's the youngest brother.
He's like, kind of innocent and sweet, but he also has this mysterious edge about him.
And he just has this sweet, sweet, He just looks so kind.
And, you know... He seems like he would...
Ask you how you are after sex. Do you know what I mean?
He's like, how are you? And how was that?
Was that okay for you? But it's not even was that okay.
It's because that's like more about him.
It's more like... Just how are you? Do you know what I mean?
He would want to actually have a real talk.
No, yeah. Like, get deep. Which has never happened after sex.
Priyanka's lucky. Because usually it's just they get up and walk away and...
Totally. And that's it. And you never see them again.
Then they block you on everything. Why does that keep happening?
Why? Exactly. Is that personal or is that from experience?
Okay, listen. So like, that's Nick for me.
But then Joe for me is like... The total package, totally silly, totally silly, totally goofy.
I might find Joe the hottest. I might find Joe to be the hottest.
Joe's sultry. Sultry. Isn't this a word that describes Joe?
If you look up sultry, it's Joe Jonas. Yes.
He's sultry. He's a little like... He's like kind of... In interviews, he's always like...
No, but also... What man? There's something... Yes.
Do you know what I mean? But also like total cool guy.
100% cool. So fucking cool guy. Like, obsessed.
And then Kevin... you feel safe. The level of safety and just comfort you feel, With Kevin – now, it's interesting because, like, when I was younger, like, there was nothing – like – sexually appealing to me about like a guy who would make me feel safe.
Like to me, it was like hot. Like that was it.
It was like hot. Yes or no. Or like, you know what I mean?
But then now with him getting older, I'm like, oh my God, obsessed.
Like, I don't care. hot like somebody who has like a comforting aura like Kevin Jonas totally Obsessed!
But let's just clarify, Kevin's hot too.
Totally hot too! So that's like my fantasy.
How did we fucking get there? I don't know.
We're talking about acting and we ended up like banging Kevin Jonas.
I just don't know what's happening. I don't know how we even got there.
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Use as directed. You know what I really want to discuss is growing up in LA because you grew up in LA.
And I'm just like, I have so many questions because...
I grew up in California, but in Northern California.
It was so different. And as a NorCal kid, we always had like... the assumptions about the SoCal kids.
You know what I'm saying? Totally. Because it's like...
What were your assumptions? Okay. So like my assumptions, you know what?
This is a fun way to start. Okay. I'm going to say an assumption and you're going to say true or Okay, great.
Okay, assumption number one. Go. Beach after school every day.
Like never once in my life. Okay. Like I don't know if I've ever been to the beach. but like definitely not after school.
And I, I went to a school like, It's 10 blocks from the beach.
Okay, okay, so for... Okay, that makes me feel better.
Maybe, like... Sometimes. Like... jocks went to the beach and like ran but like I was 100%
Not doing that. I wish I, like, look at, those guys are hot.
We love them and we love what they do. Everyone who did that was, but I don't even know people who did that.
So I'm going to go with no. Okay, so no on that.
Okay, next. Sick... sick parties every weekend, like big house parties. you know, big, like lots of illegal activities going on, left and right.
And as a high schooler, you're like illegal activities.
Yeah, so legal activity is going on everywhere.
Cops coming, but then the cops being like...
I'm coming in for a drink. That's how we pictured SoCal kids in high school.
Yes or no? No. What? So there was this one guy...
I'm not going to name his name, who was like the leader of the parties.
Yeah, yeah. And he's still, I think he's now like, works at clubs.
He's good at that. He should be a promoter.
He is now a promoter. Yeah, he's a promoter.
Okay, great. Sick. Like, you did what you were good at.
Yes. Um... And he would throw these insane parties.
But... They were like, they were for like holidays.
Like it was like Halloween. It wasn't like every weekend.
Yeah. Okay. So like. Every weekend, no.
And I wasn't invited to the parties every weekend.
I think there probably were. But I was like a... like a weird theater kid who like, they were like, let's not have oh and go you know what I mean I was like on like like there was like a list and then there was like people don't let enter and like I think I was on that list But like for Halloween, I did go to like big booty hoes and whatever.
That's what they were called. They were called like crazy.
Are you kidding me? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, we had themes a lot, too, in high school, like for things like Halloween.
Like something office hose and something.
Oh, my God, wait. CEO, CEOs and office bros.
Oh, ours was CEOs and office hoes. CEOs and office hoes.
Yeah. Do you have that? We had that too.
Wait, were we at the same party? Probably.
This is amazing. No, I – we – but like I – the thing about me that was so tough about –
I don't know, like going to the themed parties or like dressing up I looked 11 when I was 16.
Yeah, I'm sorry. So it was like CEOs in office hoes and I'm like...
And everybody's wearing their first push-up bra, and my push-up bra doesn't push anything.
It has nothing to push up. It was tough.
I'm so sorry. No, it was totally good. No, but also...
Whatever. But, okay, so no big parties. No, they weren't as epic as maybe we would have assumed in NorCal.
No, like I had a bunch. No. No. I think I had a bunch of friends who would Go to parties every weekend.
But they wouldn't be like blowouts. I think they would be like... Chill like... come by the pool.
You know what I mean? And I was always like, either not invited or like, I don't want to sit by the pool.
By the way, who wants to do that? I want to be in a sweatshirt at home.
Exactly. Especially in high school. No, 100%.
Oh, my God. No. No one could see me in high school.
No one could see anything. My body, my mind.
I'm at home. No, that, I don't ever, like thinking back at it.
Yeah, no. Really dark for us. It's dark.
Okay, last assumption I had was... The dating pool was just like easy.
It was like everybody was dating each other.
It was like this incredibly like... And everyone's just having their first kiss so young and it's so easy and and it's not stressful and just the dating pool is like solid.
Because I feel like in NorCal specifically, the dating pool was a fucking nightmare.
And this was like... Weirdly, across the board, it was just not working.
Do you know what I'm saying? Why? Because it was small?
I felt like the dating pool just sucked.
There was just something off about it. I don't know if it was that...
It was just a non-compatible group of kids just by coincidence.
Like... And maybe the right kids weren't meeting each other.
Who knows what it was. But it just felt like dating was like...
I felt like all my friends really struggled.
Most people were single. Like... People were having their first kisses maybe a little later.
Like, I don't think a lot of the kids to be that way, but it was like a lack of compatibility across the board.
And I felt like when we would look at all the SoCal kids, We're like, everybody just like, there's just like so many people and everyone thinks that they're hot.
Everybody's just... Everybody's a narcissist.
Everybody's a narcissist. Everybody's hot.
Everybody's like... You know, like it's just fun.
Like you go to a party and you just... mingle and have fun like what parties are supposed to be and then we weren't having that in NorCal.
I don't think – I went to a small school, relatively small school.
So like – Everyone was hooking up with the same people.
It was very... Yeah. Like, I remember, like, everybody dating.
Because I remember senior year... There was only one other gay person in my grade.
And I was like, we have to date. I was like, we must date.
We must. He was like, I don't like you at all.
I was like, exactly. That's what dating is love.
We get to know each other, then we break up.
So I remember me dating him for a year and a half.
And being like... Pretty solid for like... No, pretty solid for hating each other.
Yeah. No. Yeah. He is... I love him so much, but we'll get to that.
I love him. No, he's great. He's great. Okay, great.
But I do think there was – everyone was dating because I had the urge to be like, well, we have to date.
Like, all my friends – like – Yeah. Nicole's dating and Zoe's dating and Lily's dating and we have to date.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't think everybody...
There was only a few... People. Yeah. Like it wasn't like it was probably the same, to be honest.
It was. I think there was this level of romanticizing growing up in L.A., versus growing up so close yet so far in Northern California.
It was like the less cool version, right?
I felt like Northern California was always less cool less cool LA's like growing up in LA was like How would you sum it up?
Like, give some... Like, give a... Give a... Like, sneaking... You would, like... sneak off campus during lunch and, like, because you would like want to go to Whole Foods and like get like, That is so iconic.
It was like, what else was it? It was like, I mean, I think this is probably with every city, but like now...
Silver Lake, for instance. Yeah. I went to school in Santa Monica near the beach, and now Silver Lake and downtown – then was so crazy to me.
And I was like, all my friends would like go there over the weekend and we would like, go see vintage stores we were like this is so new we thought we were in North Carolina we were like what this is what is this place?
And now it's like, oh my God, I live here.
It's because when you have a car... It's like, wait a minute.
But before you have a car, your world is so small.
Like in high school? It is so small. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Totally. It's so interesting.
Totally. I mean, but do you think it was like...
I don't know, would you want to raise a kid in LA based on your experience?
Yeah, that's interesting. Because I don't know if I would just living here as an adult.
No and yes. Okay. But see, you turned out amazing and actually give me hope.
I think there's a way to do it, but I think...
I think it takes a level of... Like self-awareness.
Oh my God. Isn't it intimidating though?
It's so intimidating. Thinking about raising a kid.
No, I'm not doing that for a while. Yeah, me either.
Well, we have to do it at the same time.
No, no, no. We have to have a kid at the same time, which is something that I really want to talk to you about.
So how many years? I'm thinking for me so I'm like listen I don't want to wait too long But I don't want to do it right now.
Can you believe? Well, you're really young.
I know, but people have kids, like Kylie Jenner had a kid at my age.
Kylie Jenner. Are you being serious? She was 21?
I think so. Are you 22? Yeah, just turned 22.
Of course. How do you feel? Feeling 22. That's not how the song goes.
So I started it right, and then I remembered about copyright, and I did a remix.
I'm obsessed with the remix. Wait, so you're 22 now.
Mm-hmm. Kylie had a kid a year ago. I mean, a year at 21.
I think so. A year. Yeah. That might be complete fake news, but to be honest, what isn't?
Also, I don't believe any celebrity ages.
So like when I see an age on the internet of like what a celebrity's age is, I'm like, I take it with a grain of salt.
I think there's many who are lying. I don't know that for certain.
I mean, I'm going to say I'm 20. When I'm 40, I'm going to say, I just turned 20.
But there are some people like I have genuine conspiracy theories about not naming names.
I'm not in the mood for that. Because me and Owen never know when we're going to see them again. on a Saturday when we decide to go out to dinner and we look over to the table next to us, oh, there they are.
And I just said on a podcast that... You're not actually 25.
You're 40. Right. But I don't make those assumptions in like a judgmental and rude way.
I make it based on like a... I've met this person and I feel like something's up because of the level of maturity, not necessarily the look.
You're so mature with... So much poise.
So much poise. And the wrinkles, too. Yeah.
Yes. But by the way, there's so much... ageism I would say in our industry in general like the entertainment industry in general I'd rather people actually be 40 like 40 like Then you actually learned- What the fuck is wrong with being like a 50 year old pop star?
Who cares? So hot. So hot. So hot. Or what's wrong with being like, you know... being a 40 year old actor who's like acting like a 20 year old, but you, maybe you look young and maybe you had a really good plastic surgeon.
So you look 20. Enjoy. Enjoy. No, I agree.
I agree. Like just own it. Because I do think that there is lying happening.
I think older actually is more respected.
Yeah. I think right now we're in this phase where everyone is seven and just had... a huge hit record.
You know what I mean? And they're seven years old.
And it's like... And then every... Then... you're 26 and you're like, there's seven?
100%. Oh my God. I'm never going to be seven again.
So then you're like, well, I'll just pretend I'm 10.
You know what I mean? And it's like, that's unhealthy.
No, well, the thing is, too... That doesn't happen.
That's a rare case. It's one in a million.
But also the other thing is, too, I'm so sorry, but...
There have been so many people who have hit their career peak later in life or discovered their passion later in life.
And it's been like, okay. Look at Laura Dern. has had a great career up in, like, she's had a gorgeous career.
She's acted in tons of stuff. And now she's Laura Dern.
Yeah. 50 something. Yes. That's a dream.
Yep. It's honestly even better because you probably are more like, I don't know.
But my point with that was... So like any celebrity age, I take with a grain of salt.
Okay, people can take mine with a grain of salt too.
Because I'm probably not going to age like a fine wine like I want to.
I think you will. I just went to a tropical location for a week and burnt the fuck out of my forehead.
And I already am wrinkling there. It's things are not looking up for me, but I'm going to own it for as long as I can.
I think you... First of all, I... I'm excited for a wrinkle or two.
Same. And a gray hair? Same. Oh, my God.
Obsessed. I've literally – I'm saying this on a podcast.
I can't believe this. But I literally – have to dye my hair always, alone, by myself.
Do you dye your hair? Because I have so many gray hair.
No way. So many – because I used to dye my hair blonde.
So now it's like my hairdresser was like –
Probably lying to me, by the way. This is a full lie.
I'm now realizing as I'm like... No, it's probably just because I'm getting older.
But my hairdresser's like, it triggered something in your whatever, hair follicle or whatever.
You're kidding. So now I'm just like, my hair is just damaged.
I never knew this about you. Oh, my God.
Yeah, I have to dye my hair. I literally dye my hair once a week.
No way. Once every two weeks. Wait, but also like gray hair looks good.
No, but it's like I have random gray hairs.
Also, you don't want it. So if you don't want it, It's horrible.
I know. I mean, it depends on – I think it's actually harder when it's like first coming in.
Totally. Because it's inconsistent. Totally.
It's the worst. But once it's like a full head of gray hair, so hot.
Obsessed. I am like excited. If I was 50 and I had a full head of gray hair, I would accept it.
Oh yeah. At my age, I'm a little like... Not yet.
I have to pretend like it's... The hair dye.
You know what I mean? I have to pretend like it was like my follicles.
You're like, sorry, guys, just my follicles because I was dying.
No, but it's actually like really cool. It's actually like rare.
Yeah. It's a rare thing that only happens to hot people.
Only – no, when you're, like, really hot, also, like, big –
I was trying to say like, I was going to say like big tits, but then I was like, okay, well not for Owen.
No, no, no. But that's what we should start saying about wrinkles.
Yeah. Also, we should be like a sign of like, like really like.
Number one, being like very, very much an intellectual.
Totally empathetic. And also number two, an empath.
No, yeah. So I have three gray hairs because I'm an empath, and I have one wrinkle because I'm...
I don't want to brag, but I am brilliant.
Well, the thing is, actually, they've been doing studies.
And you might not know about these because they're unreleased.
I actually had a conference at. It was at Harvard and it was two weeks ago.
You were probably – oh, you were – it was –
Memorial Day weekend, you were drinking a lot.
I was at Harvard. with my fraternity and sorority sisters, and we were discussing... wrinkling and its correlation to intelligence.
They told me Direct correlation. Well, they told me that I am actually like... the first real sign of this.
And it's been... really hard hard no and then it's a sob story and then it turned can you imagine this is us at dinner and then now it's like And now this is hard.
And now I am so wrinkled and I'm so brilliant.
But you know what's actually kind of true?
Adults, usually with age comes wisdom, and so to be honest...
The more wrinkle, probably the smarter. 100%.
So, like, whatever. That being said, I will get Botoxed.
That being said, I'm not that smart. That being said, not that smart.
Don't even want to seem smart. We'll be getting Botoxed.
I know, I'm like conflicted about, I'm going to take it day by day.
Like I'm going to really try to go. Don't do anything.
Can I tell you, like I'm not, closing the door on it because I just don't think that that's healthy for me.
I don't want to make a promise to myself like, hey, I'm never going to do Botox.
Or I'm never going to do whatever. God knows what.
BBL. I'm never going to get a BBL. You don't want to close that door yet.
I don't. I'm not ready to close that door.
You with a BBL. Like, literally so tiny.
Huge butt. Huge ass. It would be, well.
Listen, wait, wait. Full fuck everything we were just talking about.
What's your type? Describe. So I have a boyfriend of eight years, as you know.
Well, Jared, we love Jared. Jared will be on the show at some point.
I'm obsessed with Jared. Except I did watch a video of you and Jared.
The other day. Oh, Jared's going to be so mad at me for bringing this up, but I have to.
And he is never in my life to me. said 100%.
Okay? Never in my life. He... I'll ask him a question, like a serious question that the answer is yes to, and he'll be like, no.
Like he doesn't even, or he'll say like, Sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's never certain. No, he's never like... certain or agreeing like he's always like has an opinion like yeah he's very opinionated yeah he's I mean, he's a great person, but like, I always feel like he challenges me.
Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like he does that for you, too.
Totally. In one video you did with him. I've never heard someone say 100% more.
You were like... I have to use the rest of music 100%.
You were like, I do like this. He was like 100%.
And then you were like, but I don't like this anymore.
He was like, No, I'm 100%. No, but can I be honest?
That is my doing. Wait, why? Tell me. No, I say, no, 100%.
Owen, it has to stop soon. Cause I like, I get stuck.
I'll get stuck on a word. By the way, now I'm actually like, Totally disassociating because now I'm going back to realizing to this interview, the beginning of this interview.
And I remember you asking me questions and me saying 100%.
So I'm just like remembering it. Wait, am I just stolen it from you?
No, I definitely stole it from you. Well, we steal.
Well, this is something. This is interesting.
We steal a lot from each other. Well, we come up with it together.
Yeah, no. Usually someone brings it to the table, but then the other person is like, now that's delish.
Totally delish. So let's talk about it. So something about me and Owen is that we get obsessed with, like...
Phrases, words. With a phrase. And I mean, I think this is universal.
Totally. Well, we... What are ours? I mean, we definitely... Delish.
Delish. It's hard to say it out of context because then it just like- Loving you.
Oh, that one was- That one was big. that one hit the mainstream that one hit hard I mean it was said at the Met Kayla Bieber said it to you at the Met.
It was. I was literally crying of joy. I was like...
I'm at the mat. I literally turned to Jared and I said, I'm at the mat.
Bowen created Loving You and it, for context, like how would we say it?
It'd be like, you know, well, it could be said in any context.
It'd just be like loving you. Yeah, loving you.
Like loving you. Yeah, exactly. Like just loving you.
Like if somebody got a smoothie you wanted and then you were like, can I have a sip?
And they were like, of course, loving you.
Well, it could be said in any tone. Because it could be like...
It could be kind of like funny. Like it could be like, all right, see you tomorrow.
And it'd be like, all right, loving you.
Or it could be like someone shits on you.
Like someone spits all over your face and you're disgusted and you're like, Absolutely loving you.
Loving you. Because you're trying to be nice, but like, you know.
Totally. So we started that. Then it got mainstream at the Met.
Although I don't know if it really got mainstream pickup.
It just more got mainstream eyeballs. Yeah, exactly.
There was a lot of eyeballs on it, but no one really caught it.
I was so upset that no one caught it. I really thought it was my moment.
I know, what the fuck happened? And it wasn't.
But then we do have obsessed, we do use obsessed still.
We do say delish. We still do use delish.
What else do we do? I mean, we do say 100%.
We do the voice. Wait, I forgot it. Oh, that one's really bad for me.
Well, also when like we bring out a different tone of voice in each other.
That's unique. That is unique. Like I talk differently around you.
No, I do too. Do you think that's toxic?
I don't think there's anything toxic about it I think it's super healthy.
I think it's super healthy. But I do think that we're speaking normally now, but if anybody heard us at dinner, I think they'd be nervous for us.
I think they'd be like, Our own boyfriends have a hard time because we bounce off of each other.
Yeah. and are just louder and louder and louder.
Until we're screaming. We also relate on everything.
So we're like constantly like, oh my God, you too.
Yeah. But we're also constantly trying to be silly and goofy.
Totally. But what's interesting, both of our boyfriends are so similar because they're more quiet, they're more reserved, they're more opinionated.
Totally. They don't give a fuck about what other people think about them.
100%. 100%. And... So it's interesting because we both have the same relationship dynamic.
And then it's them sitting at dinner with us, just listening to us.
It's actually like, we're doing standup for them.
And it's our first guests who are judging us.
And they... But by the way, like... I don't know if they like the show.
No, most of the time they leave being like, that was a really bad bit.
The whole thing was horrendous. Yeah, that was horrible.
No, but I do think... That they find. They get a kick out of us.
Whatever. By the way, what the fuck ever.
Sorry, I get a kick out of you. Wait, I'm excited about what the fuck ever.
Oh, I love that. What the fuck ever. That feels good.
What the fuck ever. It doesn't roll off the tongue.
No, it can if you do it right. Oh, sorry.
Let's try it again. What the fuck ever. It is tricky for me.
What the fuck ever. What the fuck ever?
There it is. Oh, I like it. It's kind of like this.
It's like, what the fuck ever? It's like, say like...
Yeah, right? Like, what the fuck? Why am I getting tripped up on this?
I'm getting tripped up on the word. This one is like actually excluding people because some people just can't do it.
No. It's because it's so hard. Well, yeah.
It's just words. Like, this one's actually hard.
Yeah. Like, whereas, like, Delish are, like, loving you.
Actually, loving you, doing it right, it isn't obvious.
I like, I feel sick also. Oh my God, I feel sick about this.
Yeah, I feel sick about that. I love that.
What the fuck ever? You know why what the fuck ever doesn't work for me?
You just said it really good. What the fuck ever.
What the fuck ever? But I'm saying ever weird.
Okay, what the fuck ever needs some work?
Because I think that there's something in that realm that we could start, but I just don't know what it is yet.
I'll set up a Zoom with my team. Yeah. Just get back to me on that one.
And your team. Yeah. No, just yours seems good.
One with my team. Yeah. Because clearly you and yours are not... I'm going to set...
I'm going to set up a Zoom with just my team on this one because that's just for me, I guess.
Just what the fuck ever is just mine. That'll just be for my team.
Thanks. oh god no i love that i love that i love that I love that we speak in our own language.
100%. That's what friendship's about. When we were at Coachella... Mm-hmm.
Am I allowed to say you were at Coachella?
100%. Do you talk about Coachella? I have a Coachella episode.
I feel sick about this. I Instagram geotagged.
Coachella. I put the location of Coachella because I wanted all of these motherfuckers to know.
Do people call you the Queen of Coachella already?
No. Yes, they do, I think. That is Vanessa Hudgens, and I would never... Oh my God, that's V-Hud.
Is that what she's called? It should be Should we go to Vegas?
Wait You're 21. I know. 22. I've never been to Vegas as a 21 year old.
I've never been to Vegas as an adult either.
Do you gamble? I've never gambled before.
I refuse. I would gamble... With you? I would gamble $5 to $10.
Oh, Avi, we're not doing more than that.
It's actually the same thing with video games.
This is weird, but I actually prefer to watch... a Fortnite gameplay almost more than I do even playing the game sometimes.
But it's the same thing with gambling. I don't want to actually go gamble.
I'd rather watch somebody else... I want to be rooting for someone else.
I like rooting for things more than I like playing.
Well, I think that's like what the appeal of sports is.
And that is why it's a billion dollar industry.
Totally. Are geniuses. Okay, people say, oh, you guys didn't go to college.
Right. What a big group of dumbos they say about us.
That's what people say about us behind our backs.
100%. Stupid. dumb freaks. And guess what I have to say back?
Brilliant Wrinkled. Lovers. Actor, model.
Actor, model. Super very much sexy. Yeah.
Look at your name. This is maybe for... another time but I I have looked my name up with hot like Owen Thiel hot oh my god by the way Nothing comes up.
If you type in Owen Thiel, nothing comes up.
But Owen Thiel hot, it's so funny because it's like that. on your computer, you know, it says like what you've looked up.
So I remember typing in, oh, I was looking up Owen Wilson for something because I wanted see a movie he was in.
And my friends were all around my computer and immediately came up, oh, and feel hot.
No! No! No! Really embarrassing. Wait, I've never even thought to do that.
I've never even thought of that as like...
No, no one has. And no one should. No, I feel like Harry Styles does that.
Like, Harry Styles hot. Just see what comes up.
I mean, a lot would come up. So much. Congrats, Harry.
You're hot. I know. Who else would search up?
Okay. Hot people deserve to look up their name with hot.
And then hot. You deserve that. Totally.
Your face deserves that. Enjoy. You should look that up.
By the way, enjoy. I'm never looking that up.
It's not going to come. I'm going to look it up for you.
So I hope somebody looks that up. Send screenshots.
But also, like, see, here's what's going to happen.
If nothing comes up, then I just assume you forgot.
Totally. So then it's like no harm done.
Totally. But if you do send it to me, it's like Merry Christmas to me.
Something came up. Totally, totally, totally.
But see, I have always been like, the word hot is not for me.
Like, that's just not a word for me. Like, maybe for me it's more like, what a gentle spirit.
Totally. It's a great word. Like, I just don't feel like.
Mine's like, what a funny critter. You know what I mean?
That's mine. Yours is gentle spirit. Mine's like weird little critter.
That's what I'm going to start to look up.
Critter is so fucking crazy. I'm going to look up Owen Feel.
Weird Critter. Let's see what comes up.
Hot is for you. I just want you to take that back.
Hot is not for me. You know some people just being hot, like being on IG with the lips puffed and a boobie out is like...
They can do it and it feels right. It does not click for me.
Well, that's not authentic. That... is not authentic to you, but you being authentic to you is hot.
Well... But see, you being authentic to you is hot.
That's what hot really is. But being stereotypical hot.
No, I'm not doing like... I can't do that.
I'm not doing that. I've tried it. Oh I've posted that.
I literally posted a picture with my lips facetuned, looking huge as fuck, my eyes looking gorgeous.
You know what I mean? My eyebrows. Full facelift.
Full facelift. Everything looking absolutely gorgeous.
Lips are out to Mars. And I get three comments being like, Q, you know what I mean?
Like, weird critter. I can't do, it's not for me either.
So for me, it's like, I just am okay with the fact that like, we i reserve hot for for others and then for me it's like i'm just like a gentle whisper people look at me and they're like she is just so fucking gentle Yeah, totally.
Or she's... Just so quirkily her. You're a quirkalina.
She's just a quirkalina. Emma Chamberlain.
Corcolina. Oh, that was actually what people... See, nobody was describing me as hot.
Ever? Nobody's ever described me as hot.
That's not true. But instead, people describe me as quirky.
And that's something I have to live with.
No, you know what mine was, which was evil?
Oh, and Theo. I was like, I literally was, I remember it was going, we were going around in a circle saying one like nice thing about each other and somebody was like beautiful about like Charlotte somebody was like a real mind about like whatever you know Danny and then it came to me and they're like Unique.
Stop. I was like, unique? It's honestly kind of a good one.
But it's also incredibly mean. It's nice.
But I think growing up with like, you're just unique.
I was like, I don't want to be unique. No, it's the tone too.
Totally. We have to end this. Thank you for having me on.
It's the most fun I've ever had. I would do this any day with you.
This is an honor. To be on Emma Chamberlain's Anything Goes?
Come on! Come on, a dream. A literal dream.
No, this was just like going to dinner. It's like you guys got to sit in on me and Owen going to dinner, which we do all the time anyway.
You're my only friend. Yeah, it's us and it's Jared.
Yeah, and Tucker. And Tucker. But other than that, it's us against the world.
And our parents. Isn't that weird? We didn't even dig into how much we love our parents.
Next time. We have so much more to discuss.
Yeah, next time. What's your sign off? I don't have one.
Maybe we could just be like, let's come up with something silly.
We should be like, Peace out, critters.
Bye, critters. That's good. Bye, critters.
