Hello! Today we're going to be talking about nepotism.
Now, what is nepotism? Nepotism is The practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives and friends or associates especially by giving them jobs so in simple terms Nepotism is getting a job or getting an opportunity because you know somebody who who is in a power position in whatever area the job or opportunity is, okay?
Now, nepotism can exist in many different types of places.
Obviously, it can exist in the workplace, but it could also exist in colleges, universities, it can exist in a lot of different ways and in a lot of different places, but, Right now, the internet has been discussing nepotism in the entertainment industry.
And so that's what I'm going to talk about today because I feel like that's the hot topic of right now.
And I need to like put in my two cents. I need to be a part of the conversation.
I have to. And that's why I'm here today to talk about it.
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I feel like the public is becoming more and more aware of how prevalent nepotism is in the entertainment industry.
And it's pissing a lot of people off, you know?
I don't feel like this was a conversation as much a few years ago.
I feel like this is sort of a new discovery.
The internet has done some sleuthing and has figured out Pretty much all of the people in the entertainment industry who... are nepotism babies.
That's what these people are called, who are famous. because their family was in the entertainment industry and succeeded before them.
And now they're successful too because they decided to pursue a job in entertainment.
And it worked. Nepotism babies. That's what they're called online.
So if I refer to them as nepotism babies, that's what I mean.
There are some people out there that. you would not know are an epitome baby, but they are.
Usually it's because they've been kind of sneaky or secretive in a way about their connections.
And it's shocking sometimes to find out, oh my God, wait, this person had a connection in the entertainment industry.
Like they're not a self-made sort of celebrity person. what the fuck?
Like this has even happened with me where I found out certain people had some sort of connection and I was like, what?
Like I had no idea. I think the internet as a whole is, is alarmed and frightened by how much of the entertainment industry is just nepotism.
Because the internet moves so fast and there's constantly conversation just going on.
There's now... more of an ability to research people and talk to others about what you're discovering.
And I think that that's why we're all kind of having this realization all at once.
Whereas back in the day, it wasn't as easy to Google somebody's family tree and figure out if they got to where they are in their career because they have connections or something like that wasn't a possibility before.
Or it was, but it would have been a lot more challenging.
So I think that that's why this whole conversation is happening.
But I think it's interesting because nepotism... doesn't just exist in the entertainment industry.
It can exist in any industry. It can also exist in schools, like colleges, you know? your dad went to a super prestigious college there's a good chance that now you could get into that super prestigious college because your dad is an alumni.
And that could help you get into that school.
Or let's say your mom. had a job at this technology company and now you want to work for that technology company because your mom worked there or works there. you have a better chance of getting a job there because you automatically have somebody involved in that organization They can put in a good word for you and vouch for your character, etc.
So it's like... This exists everywhere, but why is it such a big deal in the entertainment industry?
Why is it pissing people off more than any other industry?
I think it's because being an actor, being a model, being a musician, being a fashion designer, whatever, being in the entertainment industry, being in sort of the creative sphere of things is desirable it is many people's dream.
It's highly visible. It's very fruitful.
There's a lot of money to be made in these industries.
And I think that that's why it's pissing people off because a lot of people want to be famous and they want to work in these industries.
They're very desirable. So online, I've noticed Two different opinions on nepotism babies from... the public who is not working in the entertainment industry.
On one hand, you see people who just despise nepotism babies.
People who just hate them. Because they feel like... these people didn't have to work for their extremely prestigious job.
It just gets under people's skin to think that there are people out there that were just born, and then they get... this incredible job and opportunity and they never had to work a day in their life, you know?
Some people just can't swallow that pill.
And I understand that to a certain extent.
I think that that's, fair? Do I think that It's fair to hate on these people who were born into this privileged position.
Not necessarily because it's not really their fault.
Do I think that it's valid to be frustrated by the fact that Life is fucking unfair and some people just get spoon-fed. their whole lives and just get opportunities placed in front of them without having to put effort in.
Like, do I think it's valid to be frustrated by that truth?
Absolutely though. You know, I do think that that's fair. expressing it towards individual celebrities who had an upper hand.
I mean, it's not their fault It's almost like be mad at the industry as a whole.
Don't be mad at the individual. Because...
It's not their fucking fault. On the other hand, I see people on the internet who are like, you know what?
So what? These celebrities had a little bit of help.
So what? Their dad was a movie producer and their mom was an actor.
Who cares? They were born into that family.
Those were the cards that they were dealt.
And if I was in their shoes, I would have done the same thing and I would have utilized the opportunity to get jobs easier in Hollywood too, you know?
I would have utilized that privilege. And so I can't be mad because...
They were born into the situation that they were born into.
End of story. Now let's discuss what it seems these Nepo babies are.
I don't know if that's like mean to call them nepo babies.
I don't think that's mean. It's just easier.
It's the only phrase I have to describe this genre of person.
But I hope it's not like rude to them. You know what I mean?
Like, I hope that no Nepo babies are insulted by me calling them a Nepo baby.
I'm sorry. That's the only word I have. it's the easiest to just spit out.
You know what I mean? It's kind of my only option.
If you are listening and you are by chance a Nepo baby and it is kind of insulting. to call you that.
I'm sorry. I just don't know another word to use.
And it just slides right off the tongue.
I'm doing the best I can. Sorry. So... what are Nepo babies perspective on themselves being a Nepo baby?
Like, how do they feel about it? I've seen a lot of different reactions, okay?
Some nepo babies are completely in denial of the fact that Their connections, their family being in the industry, whatever, may have helped them.
Some completely cannot swallow that pill.
And that tends to piss people off. You know, people do not respond well when nepotism babies are like, well. yeah, my parents are in the entertainment industry, but I still had to go and work my ass off to get to where I am.
And the reason why people don't respond well to that is obvious.
It's because... It's ignoring the truth.
I think people feel almost like they're being gaslit by that in a way.
And I think that that's why it makes them mad because the truth is nobody really knows for sure. what goes on behind the scenes.
Nobody... knows for sure why somebody was cast in a movie or why somebody was put on a runway to model.
In the case of a nepotism baby, It could be that they got chosen or hired because...
They were just really goddamn good. They were just really good.
And they just stood out and they were the best option.
And that's why they got hired. Or there could be a bribe going on behind the scenes where somebody's powerful parent is like if you put my kid in your movie or in your TV show or in your modeling campaign,
I'll go be in your movie or I'll go be in your TV show, whatever.
There could be bribes going on. there could be money exchanges going on under the table where it's like, I'll pay you this much.
Don't tell anyone. If you put my kid, like who fucking knows what's going on?
So I think that when a nepotism baby is completely in denial and denies the fact that they may be could have been helped a little bit in getting ahead in the industry, people are like, Fuck you.
Like, I feel like you're just lying to my face right now because...
I don't know for sure what's going on behind the scenes.
And maybe you don't even know for sure. So saying that, it didn't help or whatever is just off, right?
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I had a really weird childhood. I was surrounded by people in the entertainment industry It was really inspiring to me growing up around it and I just wanted to be a part of it.
And I know that I had an advantage because my parents... did it too and whatever and I know that and I'm grateful for that and I'm aware of it and It is what it is.
I'm just grateful for it. And so you see some nepotism babies talk about it like that, and that tends to be responded to really well.
People hear that and they're like, well, fucking how can I be mad at you now?
I can't be mad at you because you're just putting it how it is.
You're being honest and you're grateful for your opportunity and you're humble about it, I guess.
Like, how can I be mad? And I feel like based on what I've observed, that's the best way to handle it.
And then you have nepotism babies who will not speak about it.
They just will not speak about it. And I don't think that that's a bad way to handle it either because it's like, You don't have to talk about anything you don't want to talk about.
And if you don't discuss it, then... There's nothing to be mad at I guess.
I think that's also a good way to handle it is to just keep it out of the conversation and just Leave it be, I guess, and let people talk about it and have their own sort of discourse about it.
And you just stay out of it. I think that's another good nepotism baby tactic.
But here's the thing. through all of this talk about nepotism, I've been really thinking about what it would be like to be a nepo baby because, I don't know, pretty much nobody... empathizes. with nepotism babies.
Nobody has sympathy for these people, okay?
I've noticed that but today I want to try to empathize with them I want to try to to imagine what it would be like to be in their shoes.
And I want to discuss... what I think the potential pros and cons would be of being a nepotism baby because Right now, all that's being talked about is the pros, like the positive sides of being a nepotism baby, you know, having this advantage etc.
But nobody's talking about the cons. And I think we need to talk about both right now.
Okay, so let's start with the pros of being a nepo baby.
It's pretty obvious, okay? I'm not coming up with anything...
That we haven't all already thought of here.
But we have to go through them anyway. We just have to.
Number one, in an industry that is so desirable like the entertainment industry, Connections are huge.
Why? Because there are so many people so many people trying to get into the entertainment industry.
There are so many people auditioning for movies every day.
There are so many people auditioning for TV shows.
There are so many people sending their CD's to music labels.
There are so many people sending their headshots in to modeling agencies.
There's so much. There's so many people.
It's so hard to stand out in these industries that I think for the casting directors or the big companies, having a word of recommendation from somebody that they trust is what helps set people apart because it's just so saturated and It's just so hard to stand out, you know?
So... That's why having connections in this industry is so important.
I think prior to the age of the internet, connections were even more important because the entertainment industry was so corporate.
You know, there was no becoming a YouTuber, becoming a TikToker, becoming an Instagrammer, you know what I mean?
You couldn't go and make your own content and post it anywhere. prior to the internet.
It was like you had to get casted in a movie or in a TV show or in a fashion show or whatever, whatever. by a casting director who worked heavily in the industry.
Now it's like, oh, I can go and post shit on YouTube and like blow up Like now it's in our hands.
It's more in our hands, right? As an individual who does not have nepotism connections. to have a career in entertainment if we want to.
But regardless... of the fact that now we have more opportunities to sort of become more famous in the entertainment industry without the industry. there are still many career paths within this industry that require, to a certain extent,
And if not connections... such an incredible, almost impossible talent That is impossible to ignore.
And that's so rare, you know, I don't know.
So I think being a nepotism baby, yeah, it's helpful because this industry is incredibly saturated.
It's also helpful to be a Nepo baby because...
If your parents were already successful in the entertainment industry, that means that they have a lot of money.
As we talked about earlier, this industry is very fruitful.
There's a lot of money to be made. in this industry.
And it's so much less scary to take a career risk. to try to break into entertainment if your parents have a lot of money.
Because if you fail... Or if it doesn't work out, your parents have your back a little bit.
Like for example, if you are somebody who does not have wealthy parents, pursuing a career in entertainment is extremely risky.
Because number one, in the beginning, you don't make any money at all. there is a chance that you won't make money for a long time.
There's a chance you could never make money. in this career path.
It's so rare to succeed in this industry, that the risk is extremely high.
It's also a lot of work. It's very time consuming.
And it would be. to try to balance going to college or having a job while also trying to pursue a career in entertainment in some situations, not in all, but in some.
And so my point is, having famous parents or a famous family means having a wealthy family.
And that gives you this sort of cushion so that if everything fails and all goes wrong, It's going to be okay because you can always go back to your parents' house and you probably have a really nice room there.
And it's probably really comfortable and clean and safe.
And you won't, worry about whether or not you have money for food.
Like your parents have your fucking back.
And that is a huge advantage as well. Nepotism babies also grow up around the industry.
From the time that they're born, they have intimate exposure to this industry and so there's never a learning curve maybe for them.
Like, For me, for example, when I first started getting into this world of entertainment, I guess, I was like a deer in the fucking headlights.
I didn't know what the hell was going on.
You know, like... Oh, wait, I need to get an agent?
Oh, wait, do I need to get a lawyer? Oh, wait, do I need to get a...
Wait, how do I how do I pay my taxes? Wait a minute.
Who? Wait a minute. Do I need to read my emails?
How do I respond to this type of email? do I need a manager or do I need a PR team or do I need, it's like, There's so much that you don't know when you didn't grow up around it.
Also, being intimidated by the industry can also kind of hold you back because if you didn't grow up around it, you're going to be a lot more intimidated by it and you might not be as bullish about starting a conversation with somebody who could be an important connection to have, etc.
The sort of comfort that nepotism babies have with the industry is very beneficial for them.
Also, they might have a powerful last name. which we all know that a powerful last name is a moneymaker, right?
If you see a poster for a movie and you see a famous name on the movie poster... you're so much more likely to be like, Oh fuck, that's going to be a cool movie. because you recognize an actor that's in that movie.
Or let's say, you're looking at the Coachella lineup and you see, you know, someone's famous name on the Coachella lineup, you're like, oh, they're going.
Okay, cool. This festival's legit, you know?
A famous last name adds credibility to anything, right?
And so it's beneficial to... Use powerful names that are famous and well-known. different types of projects because it sells you know it makes money People are more likely to trust something if they see a legitimate name attached to it.
They're more likely to buy into something if they see a legitimate name attached to it.
If somebody has a famous last name, they... are more likely to get hired for a project because that name is worth money.
In the eyes of the industry. And for a rational reason.
Because it's true. Like... I as a consumer of TV, movies, music, clothes, whatever, I feel more comfortable spending my money on something if I see credible names attached to it.
It's just how our brains work. So it makes sense.
And if you're born with a powerful last name, it's like, well, there you go.
You know what I mean? And then the last positive of being a Nepo baby is that you were already born in the public eye.
You know what I'm saying? You were already born in the public eye.
There were already eyes on you already, whether you wanted there to be or not.
And that can also be a con in a lot of ways, but It's a pro because you might as well make a career out of it.
You're already in the public eye. Why not make some cash off of it?
Why not get involved? You already had to be anyway, you know?
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Use as directed. Now let's talk about the cons. of being a nepotism baby why would it suck number one And most obviously, the pressure to live up to your family's name would be, really challenging to deal with.
Because the thing is, If you're somebody who grew up with a normal family, parents had normal jobs, whatever, And you have this passion for acting, for example.
And you're like, I'm going to become an actor.
And you start sending in audition tapes and let's say your audition tapes suck.
Okay. They're awful. The casting director is just going to be like, oh, this one sucks.
Okay, whatever. And it's like, no big deal.
If you are a nepotism baby and your audition tape sucks, It's going to become a conversation within the industry like, ooh. their parents are so-and-so and they still suck.
You know, there's just this hyper fixation on your talent.
Not only that. but also in the public eye.
Let's say someone who's never been in the industry before pops up in a movie for the first time and they're not very good but they're like fine whatever people are going to be like, okay, it's not going to become this huge conversation.
But if it's a nepotism baby and there's all these expectations for this person to be the best nepo baby there ever was, the most talented prodigy that there ever was. it's gonna be a fucking conversation.
It's gonna be all over the media. Everyone's gonna be talking about it.
It's gonna be a big deal. And that kind of sucks. this laser focus that would be on you would be so uncomfortable and exhausting.
And as a nepo baby, you would feel like, God, I have no room to learn or. get better or whatever because the expectation on me is already so high.
And there would also be pressure to sort of represent your parents or your family who was in this industry.
And there would probably be a lot of guilt if You're a nepo baby and you got a job and then you didn't maybe do the best job.
And people start giving you shit about it either on the internet or just within the industry.
And then. your family's disappointed because they're like, You're ruining my legacy in a way.
And that would be a terrible feeling. So I think that there'd be a lot of psychological turmoil within a nepotism baby about trying to live up to their family's name and I think that that pressure would be really awful to experience.
And I think it would kind of ruin the experience a little bit, which is disappointing. because in theory you know being in the entertainment industry is supposed to be one of the most fun and sought after career paths, which,
I don't think is always true. I think it can be true, but I don't think it's always true or I don't think it's, as often true as people assume it to be.
But, that would just automatically be really shitty.
It would just be shitty. Another con of being a nepotism baby is that your family has been in the public eye.
If we're talking about nepotism in the entertainment industry specifically.
If your parents were in entertainment, there's a good chance that they were in the public eye. you know what it's, you know, we all by now can imagine what it's like to be in the public eye.
There is this constant lust for drama, okay?
People love celebrity drama. And so if you are a nepotism baby, there's a really good chance. that your famous parents have some unsavory articles about them.
You know, there's a chance that your family member's have haters.
When your parents are famous, you're closely attached to their identity.
So like if there's somebody who hates your parents, for whatever reason, now they hate you too.
There's a lot of baggage that comes with having famous parents in the media, you know? reading nasty articles about your parents.
Nasty articles about the way that your parents are raising you, possibly even nasty articles about you. because somebody just doesn't like your parents.
Like there's a lot of baggage that can come with that.
And that, fucking sucks. Another challenge would be that I don't think you could ever properly feel like you earned your place in in the industry if you're a nepotism baby.
I think in the back of your head, you would always wonder whether or not you would be where you are in your career if your parents weren't who they are.
Even if you as a nepotism baby truly have a passion for the industry that you're in, and would be doing it whether or not your parents were in the industry as well.
Even if you're the best at your craft, whether that's music, acting, fashion, modeling, whatever. even if you're incredibly good at it and you're the best and you truly are the best, and even if You'd be doing it no matter what, whether you had an advantage or not. you still would never know for sure if you'd be there without your family.
And that, Because imagine you succeed. And you make your dream come true in the industry that you've always wanted to work in.
But you can't. feel proud of yourself fully because you don't really know for sure if you properly earned it.
Imagine how fucking terrible that would be.
It just destroys any feeling of accomplishment.
The complicated thing is, is that that's in some ways like a valid feeling of illegitimacy.
That's not necessarily an irrational thought to have either.
It sucks that they have to deal with that.
And it's terrible. But at the same time, Maybe that's how the universe balances itself out in a way.
It's like, okay, well, We're going to give some people in life advantages, but we're never going to let them feel like they properly earned it.
You know, because... Maybe that's just how the universe balances itself out.
But that sucks. I mean, I do think that it's not the most positive way to think.
If I was a neptism baby, I'd be like, yeah, you know what?
I did have an advantage, but at the same time, I know I worked hard regardless.
And I'm happy with that. I'm satisfied with that.
And that's an accomplishment to me. And so even though I'm aware of the fact. that I did have an advantage, I'm still also proud of myself for what I did do regardless.
Because... The cards I was dealt is the cards I was dealt.
Like that's how I would look at it. But I can imagine that there are a lot of nepotism babies who don't look at it like that.
And they just look at it like they're almost fraudulent. even though they may have put their blood, sweat, and tears into getting to where they are.
Another con of being a nepotism baby is that there's a chance that you have been in the industry for a long time. and you've been in the public eye for a long time.
That could mean starting your career at a really young age.
Because your parents have all these connections and they're like, well, we could put you in a children's movie or we could put you in a children's band.
You know what I mean? We could put you in the, whatever.
And working as a child would ruin your childhood.
I mean, I've never heard a child actor talk about it, in a positive way, almost never.
And so sometimes, you know, parents sort of push their kids into the industry at a young age because they're like, well, I'm going to get them started now. before the child can even decide whether or not they want to be in the industry.
But also a lot of nepotism kids grow up online, you know, from the time that they're fucking born.
They're getting paparazzi pictures taken of them.
They're being followed around by paparazzi. already losing their sense of privacy before they're even making money from being in the industry. that would be also fucking terrible.
Obviously, I mentioned this whole sort of thing as a pro earlier.
But I would say that this whole situation is a pro and a con. being in the public eye at a young age and getting your name out there at a young age can be a good thing if your goal is to work in the entertainment industry. but it can also be a terrible thing if, yeah, you did wanna get into the entertainment industry, but also you kind of got forced into it at a young age.
And, You had to grow up with the shitty elements of it before you were even ready to like make money from being in the public eye, if that makes sense.
So it can be a pro and a con. I don't know.
Here's my advice for nepotism babies, okay?
If I could speak to them right now, I would say this, either Own that shit or don't ever discuss it.
I said that earlier. I'm saying it again.
Those are the two best options. If you own it and you accept it as a part of your story and as a part of your career, I think there's peace in that.
You know? Even though... you might still sometimes feel like you didn't properly earn it or blah, blah, blah, blah.
Owning it, And owning your reality and your truth and your experience is really empowering.
And I think for nepotism babies, that's the best route.
But if that doesn't work, then... Just don't talk about it because you don't need to.
The truth is celebrities don't owe anything to anyone.
And that's kind of a misconception I see sometimes in the general discourse online is like, oh, this celebrity owes me this.
No, nobody owes anyone anything, ever. I mean, listen, are people who are fans of celebrities... in a sense, responsible for celebrity success?
Absolutely. But at the same time, that doesn't mean that celebrities owe any type of explanation or anything to anyone. because that's just not really fair.
You know, it's up to you whether or not you want to follow somebody online or watch the movies that they're in or do this or do that.
Keep up with them. It's up to you as a consumer of that person, that celebrity.
So if you don't like the way that they're behaving or you feel like they aren't being transparent enough about a certain topic, or you feel like they're being a bad role model, whatever it may be, they don't, owe you anything.
They don't owe you an explanation about any part about their life.
They don't owe you, being a good role model, they don't owe you anything.
It's up to you to decide whether or not you kind of stand by them.
But also... You don't owe them anything.
You don't owe being a fan to them. You could stop being a fan of them any day.
So obviously... I think it's really great when celebrities are able to be open and transparent about and good role models and honest and all of this stuff.
But that's not realistic. You know, it's not. to expect that out of celebrities.
I just don't think it's realistic, but That's the end of it.
If it upsets you that a nepotism baby... ignores the fact that they're a nepotism baby and that they don't discuss it.
And you think that that's, immoral in some way or wrong in some way, then unfollow that person.
Stop being a fan of that person. don't expect them or be mad at them for not talking about it.
Like leave them alone. And that's the case with everything.
It's like just then fucking stop caring about them.
You know, if you don't like what they're doing, I think it's just better to take initiative in your own life and be like, well, I'm just not a fan of this person anymore.
Period. So yeah, for nepo babies, own it or just don't discuss it.
Being in denial about something or lying about something doesn't tend to end well.
So... Whoop, there it is. To finish off this episode, I'm going to sort of share my perspective on nepotism babies as somebody who is not one, but as somebody who is in this industry. because I'm in this weird spot, right?
Where, I'm in the industry, but I'm not a nepotism baby.
So I don't know. I have a unique perspective maybe.
Maybe not, but listen at the end of the day, I don't think that being a nepotism baby would be as fun as it sounds.
I also don't think it would necessarily be as easy all the time as it sounds.
I think that it comes with its own slew of problems that I personally don't envy at all.
And I think that as a whole, we don't need to envy these people.
I don't think it's as... perfect of a situation as it seems from the outside.
Anyway, at the end of the day, this is a really interesting kind of conversation.
And Listen, do I think that nepotism is a problem in this industry?
I don't know if I'd call it a problem because it just is what it is.
I mean, listen, is it unfair in a lot of ways that succeeding in the entertainment industry is 95% easier when... you're a nepotism baby.
Yeah, it is kind of unfair. But at the same time, so many things are unfair.
There are so many things that are unfair.
That's just part of life. There are so many things that are unfair.
And I don't know if the entertainment industry will ever get out of its routine of... nepotism because why would they?
It's a lot easier to hire people in this industry based on nepotism rather than pure talent.
It's hard. to sift through the thousands and millions of people who are trying to break into the industry It's so much easier to just go based on nepotism.
So it makes sense to me why they do that.
I don't know. I don't know. And I think that there are a lot of really talented nepotism babies who are just incredible at what they do and who deserve praise. and credit for their talent I think it's a very complicated topic I don't know if it's ever going to stop I don't really know if I'd call it a problem.
And I think we just have to accept it for what it is.
And I think nepotism babies themselves need to accept it for what it is. just be grateful for their advantage that they had in life. move on, you know, and just keep working hard and trying to be good at what they do, you know.
That's all I got. That's all I got you guys.
That's all I got for today. Thank you for listening.
I hope you had fun. I had so much fun. This was a really fun topic for me.
And it might be because I'm not a nepo baby.
Like I think if I was, this would not be a fun conversation.
Do you know what? No. If I was a nepotism baby, I would fully like own it.
I'd be like, no, I am. Like, I am. So actually, I don't think you would be uncomfortable from it.
I don't know, though. I'll never know for sure. loved hanging out today.
Thank you for hanging out with me. I appreciate all of you so much.
Just keep being awesome and Keep tuning in to Anything Goes if you like the podcast and you like hanging out with me.
I'll talk to you next week. All right. Love you.
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