Hi, welcome back to Eat Your Crest podcast, I'm Crystal, I'm Jisoo, and I'm Jimmy.
Welcome back, Jimmy.
The last time you were on the podcast was episode 218 and 219, which was a two parter about breakups, which I think was very fun to record episode and also fun to listen to episode.
So today, we're really excited to have Jimmy back because we have a topic that I feel like might be relevant for a lot of our listeners, which is life in our late 20s.
Crystal and I talk often about how our age and changes in our age affect our lifestyle and our values and really just the way we look at life.
So today we wanted to kind of dive into that.
So let's kick this off by talking about how our lifestyle has changed over the years in our 20s.
Do you think life right now looks really different from life when we were 22, 23?
Fuck yeah, it does.
The listeners can't really see, but I got some nice decor now on my walls and everything.
I'm a grown ass adult.
I got like a nice hobby and stuff, you know.
I spent a lot of time with a whiteboard with.
Oh, it used to have all my errands on it, but I'm a grown adult.
So I've done the ball.
I think early 20s is for sure just like a developmental phase of your life where you're just trying to figure out how to do basic shit.
The kids call it like adulting.
So you try learning how to adult and all that when you grow up, it's just like you prefer a clean house.
You prefer your sleep.
You prefer making sure you're all right individually.
Whereas like when I was when I was a rambunctious ass early 20s dude, I did not take care of myself.
Oh, you guys know you guys been my house.
I lived with like all dudes.
We wouldn't do the dishes until like fucking mold started growing on.
It was disgusting. We'd have like, you know, full ass trash bags.
Just leave it at the door because people are too lazy to take it out.
Disgusting. And then we would smoke weed like all day.
But times have changed.
Yeah. Not only smoke weed all night.
There are elements, bits and pieces of that, that I could definitely relate to.
But I feel like one of the biggest things that I can point to is I almost feel like it took me the last eight years to realize what the consequences of certain actions are.
So if in my early 20s, everything came to me as a surprise, like, oh, why am I so tired without me thinking, oh, it's because I sleep at 2am every day.
But now I feel like I'm very conscious of it.
And that doesn't necessarily mean I'm always good at keeping up a routine or structure that benefits me.
But at least I know I can't be doing X, Y and Z without expecting to have ABC happen the next day.
So that has been a huge change for me.
And I think our body just changes too.
In college and high school, pulling an all nighter was not really a big deal.
You're a little tired the next day, but you can recover pretty quickly.
But now I can definitely feel like if I were to pull an all nighter, I need at least like two days to recover.
True. Oh, my God. Yeah.
So I have a thing. I have done this my entire life where when I have a red eye flight, I will always pull an all nighter the night before so I can pass out the entire flight.
Recently, actually last weekend, I went to Turks for my friend's wedding and I did an all nighter.
I had the red eye, but I went on it.
The fucking flight attendant.
I don't know why I had an empty middle seat.
I was the ILC. The flight attendant kept waking me up to sit in the middle seat.
Oh, my God. Wow. Right.
And it was like literally every 30 minutes and not not just like a gentle like, excuse me.
It's like a aggressive shake on my shoulder, vice grip on my shoulder, like, excuse me, I need to get through.
What the fuck's going on?
I thought they provided facilities for these five.
God damn. And not only that, too, she wasn't sleeping when she sat in the middle seat.
She was legit like eating chips and shit like rustling bags and whatnot.
God damn. But I was like I had pulled an all nighter before, so I wasn't coherent.
I wasn't able to form words and speak my mind.
I just fucking took it.
You know, I didn't I didn't go no, stop.
I don't like it. You let her bully you.
I let her bully me.
I'm like, oh, yeah.
I'm sorry. And then one time I kid it because the tray was down and I was, you know, resting on the tray.
And so I was trying to put up the tray so that she could get through.
And she was like, oh, don't don't worry about it.
She fucking slams the tray and just bodies her way through.
Oh, my God, dude. And where's part two?
She fucking command dears the armrest.
Oh, no. Yeah. Wait, that's actually crazy.
I thought they usually saved seats in the back for flight attendants.
Right. I thought so, too.
Oh, no, man, I told this to other people and they're like, oh, dude, maybe she has a crush on you.
But it's like there's no way because she aggressively dislocated my shoulder every time she went fast through.
God damn. I went through two nights without sleeping.
And when I got to Turks, like I kid you not, I had to sleep for like two days straight.
Oh, my God. Legit, I'd wake up, eat lunch with the group, go back to my room, sleep until dinner time, eat there and then go back to sleep until like fucking, you know, seven eight, eight a .m.
and stuff. Yeah. So I can't handle all nighters anymore, man.
But going back to your point, Jisoo, I also learned that if I exercise slash like workout in the morning, that it just significantly gives me a lot more energy throughout the day and stuff.
And so that's what I started doing as well.
When I was there, you know, like you say, when we're in our late 20s, you figure out like strategies and stuff which your body needs.
Yeah, definitely. And sometimes even like really simple stuff, too, like drinking water, I'll start to feel like shit at like 1 p .m.
And then I realized I didn't chug water all day.
And I was like, oh, my God.
I need to up my intake and like maintain all of this stuff.
Like, this is crazy.
Yeah, I'm a little embarrassed to say, but that's like a fucking recent revelation for me, you know, like 1 p .m., 2 p .m., comes around.
I'm like, why am I so fucking tired?
And I realized it's because I've only been drinking coffee.
You know, that was my liquid intake.
But once I started drinking like hella water, yeah, I've been able to like not take a two hour nap during work.
Shifty eyes. I'm like, I work from home, I'm looking at my couch like off, but.
Dude, yeah, and coffee is dehydrating.
I think we often forget that like caffeine is dehydrating in general.
So it's like, oh, I'm awake for the next couple hours.
And then you're like, OK, now I'm like crashing and I'm like feeling weird.
And all I needed was some water.
You feel like it's surprising, you know, when you don't know about it.
But, you know, I drink my fucking triple espresso in the morning.
That gets me up. I don't drink any water.
Then I one p .m. when I'm tired, I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
I usually like that.
You're like, trust me, when I was 21, I'd be powering through the day.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So a lot of things change and you realize that your body needs a lot of upkeep and you find strategies to like, you know, make it work and stuff.
A fucking stretch now, you know?
Oh, my God. I know.
Right. Before I used to make fun of people.
I used to make fun of my housemates.
So my previous housemates were like, I think seven years older than me.
So when I was 25, they're like 32 and stuff.
And they stretch before like physical activity and everything.
I'm like, fucking old ass people.
I need to do it. Just take it, you know.
Now it's like you're hearing stories about your friends.
Where they're throwing their Achilles and stuff.
Right. True. My friend Mikey is so sad.
We're we're playing a pickleball like a public park.
And then because it's so popular, you got wait like 30 minutes until you get into a game 30 minutes.
And he didn't stretch at all.
He finally gets into a game.
Literally the first hit he does, he pays his Achilles.
Oh, my God. That's tragic.
I know. And then wing as well.
Nate's girl, she tears.
I think her Achilles or something.
She tore something.
Yeah. Dude, we're getting to that age, guys.
I know. I feel like so much of life now is like prep work or honestly, to me, it boils down to like impulse control almost, because if I had to describe it, I think in my early 20s, I lived my life exactly how I wanted to.
The things that I did at any step of the day was because I wanted to do it.
Like I want to exercise or I want to do this, but now it's not because I want to do it.
It's like I need it.
Like I know I need to exercise.
I know I need to sleep early, et cetera, et cetera.
And it's like training myself to do those things voluntarily.
You know, it's crazy.
I now don't go get talk about at 2 a .m..
Exactly. Dude, because I see a lot of TikToks or something where people are like, Oh, my God, you know, now I'm in my 30s or 40s, and I can't just go out and eat junk food to feel better because I'll feel like shit the next day.
Yeah. I fear the day that that happens to us.
I know at work my coworkers were talking to each other.
Like what year did you really start to see your metabolism slow down?
And they all were like, oh, you know, like 30 or like 34 or something like that.
And I was like, oh, it's kind of like coming up.
Like that's a little scary.
Yeah, I think it's coming up right now.
It's like I've been a skinny dude my entire life.
Last year, I was just eating how I normally eat.
I gained fucking 15 pounds.
Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God.
The funniest shit ever because I know I was getting fat when I could start seeing my cheeks in my peripherals.
Oh, my God. That's crazy.
I'm like, oh, fuck.
You're like, what is that?
Yeah, like, oh, I can see my cheeks.
Oh my God. Oh, no. And like pictures, dude, like my friends would like take pictures of me from the side profile.
And I got protruding as a delegate or anything.
There were signs. Yeah, you know, I'm getting angry with my friends, like, how can you guys do it?
Tell me this. Oh, my God.
Speaking of, though, I realized I was like, because some days I work from home.
And so some of these days, I'm just like not getting steps in.
I'm like not really moving.
So I literally bought a walking pad to use to make sure that on those like sedentary days, I can hop on the walking pad and get hopefully around 10 ,000 steps in.
What's a walking pad?
It's a mini treadmill that only goes up to about three miles per hour in speed.
And there's no like handlebar you hold on to.
So you can just kind of like tuck it under your couch and like pull it out to like walk on it.
Why don't you just go outside, dude?
It's an efficient use of time because I can just if I'm doing things like watching TV or like working, I could use it.
Oh, I understand now.
I thought you're just like freaking quarantining at home.
No, no, no. I don't want to leave at all.
There's no way I would just walk and stare at a wall.
No, you Crystal. I thought it was facing like a corner of the wall.
I thought it's all dark.
No, I just walk on it when I watch TV, which is super good because I can easily walk for like two, three hours.
If you watch like put on a movie and that's like 10 to 15 K.
You've done that. You've walked throughout an entire movie.
Yeah, yeah. That's pretty crazy.
That's impressive. I don't know if I could do that.
My crystal is stocks just one way.
Thank you. Thank you.
You converted a hater.
Yeah. But I guess aside from lifestyle changes, right?
I feel like that kind of stuff is almost small decisions that you make on the daily.
But I think there are also probably some bigger, like key decisions that we have made over the last few years to really inspire the changes or push ourselves forward as we age.
So can you think of any like major conscious decisions that you made?
I think honestly, it's like a mix of the two key conscious decisions, things that jump into mind.
You know, I have a lot of vices.
I'll just leave it at that.
I got a lot of vices that I've had to like consciously be aware of.
Sometimes this cold turkey.
I think the safer work example would be like, honestly, girls.
I used to be addicted to girls, I guess.
I guess. Shout out Eddie now.
Before when I was like twenty five or I guess my entire life up until twenty five.
The twenty five was like the key pivotal time when I was like on hinge and I would be, you know, dang girls constantly always looking for the next one.
But then that's something that, you know, I had to make a conscious decision about, OK, this is honestly pretty negative.
Right. You start feeling empty inside.
You start feeling very just like, what am I doing in my life?
Like this is now like my life purpose at the same time, too, it was men.
Right. And that was incredibly fun as a job.
But then just like with the girl thing, I started feeling a little empty inside because you're so like selling your soul.
Right. You're selling your personality for money.
It's the same thing with girls, too, where you're starting to just like make adaptations to your personality.
You're molding it in a way where, you know, it'll fit different types of personalities, it'll fit different types of people.
And so that was a key decision I made where I'm like, OK, I quit my job as a salesman and then I I deleted hinge.
It was really good for me in the long run because then it was more, you know, I'm doing stuff for myself and I'm staying true to my personality and I'm not changing it.
Like you got to grow into your own personality more.
Exactly, exactly. And so I think that was that was a really big key conscious decision I made.
I guess the biggest one was last December, I adopted a dog.
Ryla, you guys know Ryla, a little puppy.
He's my everything now.
But yeah, that was a big decision I made.
I did most because I grew up with dogs.
And so I just missed having a dog around.
But then once I got her, it made me I don't know.
It just settled me down like immediately.
Well, you guys know this.
I'm a I'm a party person.
I like going to parties.
I used to like every weekend I would have something Friday afternoon and then someone's birthday Friday night and then Saturday.
You know, I'd do like a morning hike with someone and then I would go and, you know, go to a day party.
Someone's birthday, so many birthdays in the year.
Go to a day party and then go to a night party and then go to it after afterwards to get home like fucking four a .m., you know, and then just like repeat and rinse.
Right. Rinsing repeat.
Now I have a dog. I don't do that anymore.
And so now I'm way more conscious of who I hang out with and how I spend my time.
I'll go to like two birthdays every weekend, even though that's still a lot.
It's a lot. Yeah, it's still a lot.
But it's not like I'm there from like 6 p .m.
6 a .m. You know, I'm not hearing the birds chirping anymore.
I'm not hearing the morning joggers.
It's still dark when you get home.
Yeah, it's still dark when I get home.
And it's still very much like, OK, if I if I get home at like 2 a .m., then I'll be able to get some sleep, wake up at 8 a .m., just so I can, you know, walk right, take her out, feed her, even though she refuses to eat her food now, feed her and just makes her she's all right.
So I think just having that extra responsibility of having a dog is like really it's really changed me because it's just like so be down a lot more.
And it's made me I grew up the youngest kid in my family.
So I was very much just the child, you know, my entire life.
I was I was the youngest, not only sibling, but youngest cousin in my entire family.
You know, I was just the baby of the family.
I never had to like take care of anyone.
I barely had to take care of myself.
Take care of me. So I got a dog like complete, like flip the script where now I'm taking care of another living thing.
And so now I'm not thinking too much of myself anymore.
You know, I'm thinking more of like her well -being.
And that's like paramount to me.
And luckily, it also helps you.
Yeah, yeah, like it's really built healthy habits.
I mean, you guys be proud of me, right?
Like I went to my friend's B day yesterday and I came home at 12 a .m.
Dude, impressive. Solid.
Yeah, that's a lot.
It's pretty good. It's pretty good.
So, yeah, no, it just made me more responsible and I guess a better functioning citizen of society.
You're like, damn, if I don't go home for myself, Ryla is waiting for me at home.
Like I need to go home for her.
True. Oh, yeah. Well, it's not just that, too.
It's like I'm excited to go home, you know, walk through the door.
She wakes up like. I'm like, baby.
And then if I'm still drunk, I'll lay it down on the floor and just have her like run all over me.
And the best thing ever.
I feel like this is what makes me very excited to have kids because the responsibility of having someone to take care of is huge.
And I feel like I'm someone who enjoys kind of having that responsibility sometimes or maybe not so much enjoy.
But I think I could be like a bigger person if I had something to take care of.
Like it would bring out more from within me.
So I'm just like super excited to have kids.
And, you know, things like that are big conscious decisions, right?
Like you said, Crystal, mutually beneficial for both you and whatever you're taking care of.
Hopefully. Like, right.
Maybe it's a longer term thing for kids.
That's true. Well, I think so too, because it's just like I think especially dogs and kids, their reflection of you.
So if your dog is shitty, like there will be, you know, shitty dogs at the dog park, you'll be like that owner doesn't have their shit together.
You know, like their owner isn't really doing as much as they can.
Like my friend right now is trying to adopt a puppy and then and so she's like spent time with just like getting to know it.
And then she texted both me and my friend who have dogs.
She's like, honestly, I realize you guys are actually like great parents.
Your dogs are so well behaved, but they're not like barking at everything.
They're not growling at anything.
And it's just like a total reflection of you.
And you you feel proud.
I feel more proud when people compliment rather than I do.
If people compliment me.
Oh, so cute. Yeah, I feel like you're right.
It's definitely a good exercise.
You're truly learning to take care of something else, especially if you get a dog when they're like a puppy.
So you're like the biggest influence on their life.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I think it's really just like you have to sacrifice a lot.
You sacrifice a lot of not just your time, but your own self.
It's like an exchange where you're sacrificing you know, what made you happy as an individual.
And now, you know, the thing you're taking care of is honestly a main source of your happiness.
Yeah, and you're fine with it.
And it's not like doom and gloom.
It's like you you like it that way.
Right. Yeah. And I feel like it just like expands your world view almost because it's kind of like, you know, when you don't have guests over, it's OK if your house is a little messy.
But then when you know people are coming over, you like clean the house because you're OK with like a little bit of mess, but you don't want guests having to deal with that or whatever.
I feel like it's almost the same thing to it's like I can be satisfied with my own life at like a certain bar.
But for my kids life, like I want them to have so much more and like so much access to stuff.
So then at a certain point, it's just like they're able to expand your world as much as you are working to like expand theirs.
It's basically just upkeep, right?
Before Ryla, I I didn't go for walks, you know.
I don't have a walking pad either.
Did you need a walking pad?
I should probably just leash Ryla onto the walk.
That is self sufficient.
But yeah, no, it's very much like forces you to just do stuff that are honestly inherently healthy, but you don't really do it because it's just you, right?
You have a lower standard for yourself than you do for someone that's dependent on you.
So now I tell her on hour long walks, I tell her to the dog park because I want to just start being social with dogs and stuff.
And it's cute, too, because like I've taken Ryla to the dog park every day.
The regulars there, they always come up to me and they they're like, oh, I see the progress that Ryla is making.
She's getting more social, you know, she's not you know, she's not too intimidated anymore by big dogs and stuff.
And so it's and you hear that you're like, you know, nice.
I'm doing a good job.
She's she's growing as a as a dog, too.
And her personality starts shining out and everything.
So yeah, you just become more proud.
Oh, my God, Jimmy is such a happy dad.
I know. Dog dad. Yeah.
Right now she's killing my bed.
Living life. She bart it was like the first time ever, too, because I saw a creator at night and she likes it like that.
You know, she likes like her own little personal space.
So then I create her at night.
But then this morning, yes, she heard me and my friend in my bedroom.
And then she she started barking.
I was like, oh, she never really barks.
You know, I thought she needed to, like, go pee, go poo.
She don't want to go pee and poo.
She just ran straight to my bed, like, let me up, let me up.
She was jealous. Yeah, yeah.
Yes, right now. She's just chilling there.
And I'm like, God, I piqued over and she's like, I'm down here back just living life.
I do have a question, though, because now that you have, you know, more responsibility, taking care of Ryla and you've cut down a lot on your social activity, how do you be more picky and choosy with these hangouts?
Like how what helps you determine, you know, which event you should be going to and which one you can probably forget about?
You know, I don't know if this is like too aggressive, but you start having sort of like boundaries that you have where it's like, you know, black and white things like, for instance, I moved into my new place here, right?
And I've been here for like a year, maybe two years.
The friends that haven't made an effort to visit me.
I no longer really like care to try hang out with them and stuff and everything, you know.
And so it sort of makes it easy like that.
Or like their friends that flake, they get like a larger penalty now, you know.
And because I have Ryla, you know, I can't I can't drive to SF all the time.
I can't do that. So now I'm expecting, you know, my friends and SF to make the drive down here.
You know, you'd be surprised.
And they do the trimming for you, where the majority of them haven't seen my new place, haven't even seen Ryla yet, you know.
And they know that Ryla is such a big part of my life.
This obviously living alone, it's also a big life change for me.
So if you're a friend of mine and you do truly care about me, I think you would make an effort to come down here.
Right. Yeah. So that's that's where my thinking is.
And it's it's very black and white, where OK, it's obvious if someone doesn't want to make the time for you and expects you to make time for them, then it's like it's uneven friendship.
And so those are like the social sort of events that I just don't really go to.
More. Yeah, that makes sense.
I feel like it really makes you in your perspective.
It's like, OK, it's like your turn as my friend to reciprocate when like you've been putting in all of this work previously to build up the friendship.
And then now you're like, OK, I can kind of see people's like true colors, I guess.
Or maybe they just haven't reached a level of maturity that you have.
So maybe in the future years, they could come around.
Yeah, I know exactly.
I mean, it's I think before when, you know, single no dog and I have like so much free time, you know, always wanted to see, oh, what's the plan, what's the move for Friday?
What's the move for Saturday and stuff?
You you realize you cater a lot to people.
You cater a lot to and I'm the extrovert, too.
So I'll you know, I didn't think much of it at the time.
I like drive all the way to SF, you know, hop from one part to the other and stuff.
But now I don't have the means to cater to people.
So it's very much people like, you know, reach out to me like, hey, I, you know, I'm having this like I really love it for you to come.
And they're a close friend of mine, then I'll come.
But then for the auxiliary friends that like invite me just have I don't know.
You know, I sometimes think people like having me there because I'm I'm such a good aura.
A really extroverted like life for the parties or aura.
I think people used to invite me because of that.
And now it's very much like, you know, just trimming that away.
I always find it kind of fascinating to track what kind of role friendship plays in your life as you age, because, you know, we talk often about how friendship in our teenage years looks so different from friendship now.
And I do feel like as our lifestyle changes, what we need and seek out of friendship also changes, too.
And, you know, some of that might be like thinking about how you feel around certain friends or like how your life feels around certain friends and seeing the changes before and after them.
But some of that can also be like, yeah, I love and want to keep these friends, but I might want to change the activities that I do with these friends.
So I feel like I have seen both in my life personally.
It's like sometimes you see friends come and go just because it might not be the best fit anymore at a certain age.
But other times the friends are the right people and you just switch up the activities, maybe do more sports or do more wholesome stuff and you enjoy that evolution as well.
Yeah. So one of my really close friend groups, my college friends, right?
Because they're college friends, our activities are very much not wholesome and, you know, home joy type of friends, right?
I'm laughing because every single time we're trying to make this.
Oh, G .C., you met them.
Right. And so, you know, you can speak to this.
Yeah. We try having a wholesome night.
So me and G .S .U. and a couple of my college friends, we had a Love Island watch party for the reunion.
And I kid you not, we're like, OK, let's have it wholesome.
Maybe just get like a six pack.
Right. Because there's like five of us.
Let's just get a six pack.
And, you know, we'll just have one drink each and that's it.
Not even we set out the dinner.
Everyone seated down.
Not even one bite in.
One of my college friends goes, shot.
And you know me. I I fold under no pressure at all.
Like a fucking lawn chair.
I'm like, oh, I really have the bottom of my hand.
Let's do this. Jimmy is pouring the shot.
Yeah, already. That was so funny.
Right. It was like, oh, there's only like a little bit in this bottle.
We might as well finish it.
And then it evolves into we didn't do this, but it did evolve into the question of should we doordash something?
Like should we? Don't ask.
It's a little. We legit were like asking, oh, what?
Like the stores around here.
I was like, it's a Monday night.
It was a Monday night.
It was so bad. It didn't just stop at shots, too.
You know, I'll leave it at that.
It didn't just stop a shot.
Do you go on the bright side?
I remember Jisoo recounting this night to me.
She was like, oh, my God, I went over to Jimmy's to watch Love Island with him and his college friends.
And she was like, wow, Jimmy's place is like so nice.
He really decorated.
It is truly a like nice bachelor pad, essentially.
Well, yeah, I was so struck by the like floating shelves with the plants and stuff.
I was like, oh, wow, Crystal, like Jimmy's face is amazing.
And I was like, oh, my God, we need to go again.
I haven't seen it yet still in person.
You haven't seen it?
I haven't seen your place in person yet.
Yeah, because you enjoy housewarming.
Oh, true. But going back to my point, right, like true friends.
No, no, you're the exception.
OK, you're the exception.
Yeah, I'm just really bad at inviting people over for, you know, housewarming or like setting something up as well.
That's just like not my nature.
I'm very much invite and not an inviter.
Right. The only time my place has usage is like for the afters.
You know, people are going, oh, let's just go to Jimmy's after, you know, we'll just continue the night there.
But it's never anything like, oh, that's cool.
My house is like a house for me.
I don't fucking know.
But I do feel like Jimmy, you're kind of the person who would be like, if someone hit you up kind of last minute like, hey, are you free right now?
Let's grab a beer and like wash the game together at your place.
You'd be like, oh, yeah, sure.
No one's done it yet, but yeah.
All right. It's on my to do list now.
Put it on the board, the white board.
Yeah. Now that you guys are in our fantasy football league, now I have people in the Bay Area that watch football.
So we will have watch parties.
That's true. Yeah. And we have like at least three locations.
We could do it. Yeah.
The three locations right here.
Us three. Boom, boom, boom.
Well, I do want to circle back to something that Jimmy said earlier, which I thought was interesting.
You said that twenty five was a pretty pivotal year for you.
And I think honestly, it was for me, too.
And something that we discuss a lot on this podcast is like the concept of the frontal lobe, where, you know, twenty five allegedly is when your frontal lobe is supposed to be fully developed.
So do you guys think that rings true to your experience when you look back at your age twenty five?
Hopefully not. Hopefully it's still developing.
You're like, this can't be it.
This can't be it. It's got so much more development to do.
I don't know. But I do feel like there was a little bit of change, though.
I started realizing I cared more about consequences kind of like.
Things scared me a little more, if that makes sense.
It would be like, oh, well, if I were to procrastinate on work, I know the consequences of that, like I'll have to work extra harder later.
And that's annoying, right.
But then I feel like in my younger years, I literally was like doing a homework five minutes before class started turning it in.
It's like, whatever, like I'm invincible.
Like, there's no consequences as long as I get it done.
But now it's like that could affect like my schedule, my routine.
And that could just like knock over all these other aspects that I just like wouldn't have necessarily thought about when I was younger.
Yeah. I mean, I think when I look back at age twenty five, life started to feel really real for me.
I was like, everything that I do in every year now and onwards is going to be like something that I look back on when I'm like in my 40s or 50s, I'll be like, oh, man, it could be something like, oh, man, I wish I did this when I was twenty five, or I wish I did this, you know.
So then I think I got really aware of like things that I might potentially regret not doing in a certain sense.
And also it was the year where I really wanted to start doing like building blocks on things that could set me up in the future, specifically just relationship wise for me and James.
I think that's when we started having pretty serious conversations about in the next five years, what are the things we want to do on our checklist?
So, yeah, maybe it's the combination of like the frontal lobe thing and also just hitting that like mid 20s number.
But I think it was good.
Like I think it was very developmental and it felt a little bit more serious.
Well, I went through all my twenty five development thing, you know, with the ladies and the cells and everything.
And just I think just getting right and developing healthy habits.
Like I speak more for for weed, for example.
Even when I was a working man before twenty five, I would smoke weed all the time.
Like legit hit a blinky in the bathroom.
I was a researcher before.
I would legit hit a blinky, then go back to the bench and start like pipetting shit.
And then like before sales calls, I would do that too.
I was a very high functioning smoker.
But then I realized like it's almost like a fucking rock lead taking off his ankle weights, right?
I stopped doing that.
I'm like, oh, shit, I'm so much better at my job now.
What's going on? It's a lot of growing.
It's a lot of making responsible decisions.
Honestly, do just staying true to yourself and honestly protecting your own self worth a lot more aggressively.
Mm hmm. You know, I thought one interesting thing I noticed as I turned twenty five, I guess, actually was having more anxiety.
And I think it's because like somewhere subconsciously or consciously, I was like realizing there's some danger in like some choices that I made potentially or just like things that I was doing would like freak out my subconscious of it.
So I guess as an example, sometimes I like take solo travel trips.
For the most part, it's like fine.
But I'm still like just a woman traveling alone.
And that's kind of like freaky in some aspects.
And it's like, oh, you need to stay pretty vigilant, like be aware of your surroundings and all that kind of stuff.
So because I was like noticing more anxiety, I had to look into like ways of managing my anxiety, whether that meant like doing things that made me feel more prepared or like doing things that were good for like mental health and wellness.
So I think like that was a trigger that made me focus a little more on like overall well -being.
That's kind of interesting, actually, because I feel like for me, I had the opposite experience where I started to experience a little bit less anxiety.
But maybe it's almost like life balancing out in a sense, because I was just so anxious like growing up.
But I started to give less of a shit about certain things.
Like I feel like I used to care so much about what other people thought of me to where it was like distracting and just invasive as a thought.
And it's not to say that I don't care now, because I definitely do care.
But maybe it's more at like a normal level and less as like a debilitating factor in life.
So I think for me, it was also like a little bit of a positive change where I'll say, OK, I can feel those thoughts of, oh, hopefully this person likes me, but it doesn't have to be like all consuming.
OK, what do you guys think of this?
I feel like 25, mid to early 20s.
It's almost like a second puberty, like you're really starting to grow into who, I guess, like closer to your final evolution and you go through a lot of potential changes or like re -evaluations of your life because it's a big time of change.
You know, we're graduating college, we're like getting our jobs, figuring out what we want to do with the rest of our life.
So I almost view this time as like a second puberty.
I think in that sense, it sort of like reverses some of the, I guess, negative stuff that came with your first puberty, right?
Because the first puberty is when you started feeling more anxious about, oh, what do people care?
You know, like, how do people see me?
You care a lot about just stuff that doesn't really matter.
And so in that sense, this quote unquote second puberty is sort of when you're reversing that, it's like, oh, things like that don't actually matter and you start zeroing in on the things that do matter to you, like fulfilling relationships, family time.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think you just start becoming more of an adult, really, you know, you start selling in second puberty in that sense.
I think one of the interesting things about being in my late 20s is I almost feel like I have two conflicting emotions going on.
Like half of me is so excited to be 30, because I feel like being 30 and being in your 30s onwards is, first of all, almost like a fresh start.
It's like you're starting your new decade with a bang.
But also at the same time, like I'm so scared of hitting 30 or like leaving my 20s.
Half of me is just like waiting in anticipation.
Like I'm just like waiting and like watching the countdown timer to 30.
And I just I don't know, like I don't know how to deal with these conflicting emotions in a sense.
Like it almost feels like I'm in limbo while also trying to like live up the last few years of my 20s.
That makes sense. I'm on the opposite end.
I'm not trying to think about being 30.
It's fast approaching.
I don't want to think about it.
I think I'm on Jimmy's side for this.
I just don't think to if I catch myself thinking about 30, I'm like, stop.
No, not yet. But at that point, dude, like you do some dumb shit and you're 30.
You're going to be like, why did I do that?
I'm fucking dirty. Oh, you can't be like, oh, I'm just 20 something.
And yeah, yeah, I'm just like, damn, dude.
Well, there's a lot of expectations to once you hit 30 and above, right?
And especially in the Bay Area, too, like, you know, what milestones you got hit?
Well, you got to get married in your 30s.
You got to essentially, you know, have a kid in your 30s, get a house in your 30s, you know, some big ass responsibilities.
And that's the type of stuff that like it's like a little intimidating.
And I'm but I'm also excited for it.
Going to crystal. It's going to be your third puberty, I guess.
Right. Damn, you're right.
When you're legit like, oh, fuck, I got to settle the fuck down.
How many puberty is must we go through before it stops?
I think, honestly, we have a big break between like 30 up until 50 when your kids leave for college.
Like another puberty.
Like, oh, shit. What what do I do?
You know? That's a good point.
True. True. That's why they have midlife crises at 50.
Yeah. Yeah. So my stepdad and my mom all bought Porsches and shit.
Yeah. Like, damn, dude, you don't need this fast of a car.
You drive 65 on the right, right.
You're like, hey, can I borrow this car?
I mean, honestly, I think parenthood could also be a puberty, too, because puberty to me is like when you learn so much about yourself and you're like unfamiliar and like growing in that unfamiliarity.
And I think parenthood will be very new and strange for all of us.
So honestly, it's infinite puberty.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah, you got to go through your kids puberty.
That's probably your own, you know.
Oh, shit. Yeah. How do I do it with this fucking devil?
You're like, wait, was I like that when I'm like a little crisis, too?
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Yeah. Because I remember when I was, you know, going to puberty, I guess.
I would sneak out all the time with you, Crystal.
Good times. Good times.
Go to Denny's and stuff, you know?
My dad was literally like, Crystal, you became like the devil's spawn when you became a teenager.
Oh, my God. I had this conversation with my mom recently, too.
She was like, yeah, your puberty came kind of late more when you were like 17, 18.
Like, I don't know why you didn't go through it when everyone else was going through it.
I was like, oh, not the belated flames, like 10 years later.
Like, why are why are we talking about this right now?
By the way, you're a shit kid.
And not only that, too, like you waited to be a shit kid.
Yeah, another thing about it.
Oh, man, I don't know how I'm going to go through it.
Like when I was a kid, oh, my God.
My mom would have to deal with like weed smell.
It's stuff, you know, in the house.
There's one time I snuck out.
Oh, actually, no, when I'd sneak out, I'd put like, you know, pillows.
Oh, my God. In my bed in the shape of me.
And then I had like a Halloween mask with hair in it.
So I put that on top and stuff.
And then one time she caught me because I was being stupid.
And I took my car. Oh, my God.
So she was like, where the fuck is this car?
She went up, she was like, oh, this motherfucker.
You really thought some pillows would fool her like the wig is crazy, actually.
Yeah, I should have just walked to that.
The place that we went to was like five minute walk.
The move is to walk for sure.
Well, I do have a final question for us before we wrap this episode.
We basically talked about the evolution of our life from our early 20s through our late 20s.
And now that you kind of look back a little bit on our late 20s specifically, what grade would you give it on like a A through F scale?
What grade are you giving life in your late 20s?
Honestly, I'll give myself like an A minus.
That's pretty good.
Maybe like a B plus, I would say.
A B plus, you know, like I like where it's at.
I like where I am right now.
I like where it's going.
There's certain things I could have done better for the most parts.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Solid B plus, you know.
Yeah. It's like a eight point five.
Oh, yeah. I'll go to the teacher.
You're like, hey, can you can you bump me up to eight minus?
It's very close. I don't want to give myself.
Yeah, I think similar to crystal, I would give it like a solid A minus.
But I think definitely something to like monitor, like even if it is an A, it's like a ninety three or something like about to get into A minus territory.
Oh, yeah. I'm like almost B plus territory.
Oh, there it is. Crystals Ryan, that 90 percent, like 90 point zero.
I'm like, oh, shit, we made it to A minus.
It's a shock. Oh, shit, OK.
I would say B plus just because there are some projects in my life that I've you know, I want to do and I bought the equipment to do, but just haven't done it yet.
You know, like I bought a Wrangler and I want to take it off roading, but I haven't had the time to do it.
Right. You know, I can blame Ryla all the time.
Oh, you know, I got to take care of Ryla.
But if I'm being truthful, OK, but I also waste my time doing some other stuff.
Right. And then I bought like an expensive camera, too.
And I want to just like video tape me cooking or me, you know, DJing and stuff and like just make like videos of that.
Haven't gone around to it.
It's OK. There's still two more years of our late 20s.
Yeah, true. Yeah. Yeah.
It's got a couple of semesters left.
Well, thank you so much, Jimmy, for joining us today.
I think it was really fun to reflect on how we've started to grow into ourselves a little more and be kind of legit adults now.
And for our listeners out there, if you have any interesting key conscious decisions that you've made in your late 20s, feel free to share them with us.
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