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From the brains behind brains on, it's Smash Boom Best!
The show for people with big opinions!
Hi, I'm Molly Bloom and this is Smash Boom Best!
The show where we take two things, smash them together, and ask you to decide which one is best. today's debate tastes real good in a little cup or a packet.
Grab the fries, carrots, wings and tarts because it's ketchup versus wrigs.
We've got comedian and writer Devan Bland here to defend Team Ram.
So stress and time for Ram's dress.
And voice actor Marc Nguyen is here to fight for ketchup.
I will squeeze the day!
To me, totally stoked to defend this ruby red delight, And here to judge it all is Caroline from Mendota Heights, Minnesota.
Caroline loves to make costumes, craft, and go scuba diving.
Hi Caroline. Hi Molly.
So you like to make costumes?
Can you tell us about any recent costumes you've made?
So I made a Dracula or cosplay for last Halloween and then I also went to Twin Cities Con in it.
It was made out of like a kind of like a Spandex thing.
I got to like die the wig and paint my nails and all that kind of stuff and do my makeup.
So very cool. Tell me about the character you dressed up as.
Dracula, she is a monster high doll.
She is the daughter of Dracula.
She has like split dyed hair.
She has pink hair on one side and black hair on the other side.
And I don't know, she's cool.
Nice. Very, very fun.
Okay, do you have any advice for our debaters today?
Make bad puns, but make them funny bad, not like bad bad.
Also, musical theater references on my musical theater for me.
So just bad enough puns.
Musical theater, if you can.
Wonderful. We'll Caroline side with Devant.
Ermerk, only time will tell, but first, here are the rules of the game.
Every debate consists of four rounds, the declaration of greatness, the micro -round.
This sneak attack and the final six.
After a round, our judge Caroline will award points the team that impresses her the most, but she'll keep her decisions top secret until the end of the debate.
Listeners, we want you to judge two, mark down your points as you listen.
At the end of the show, head to our website, smashboom .org, and vote for whichever team you think one.
Devon, Merck and Caroline!
Are you ready? Yes!
Yes! I9! Then it's time for the… Declaration of Grey's.
In this round, our debators will present a well -crafted immersive argument in favor of their side.
Then they'll each have 30 seconds to reap but their opponent's statements.
We hope to coin and Devon, you're up first!
Tell us why you're in raptures over ranch!
Hi folks. I'm here to talk about the wonders of ranch dressing.
But first, I'd like to introduce you to a friend of mine who's a bit of an expert on the subject.
Hit it, Randy. Well, my name is Randy the cool ranch kid.
Let's jam about something awesome somebody did.
With ideas growing like a tree with a branch, it's time to talk about the incredible ranch. Thanks Randy, ranch is a delicious dressing and dip that is stood the test of time.
With its creamy but slightly tangy flavor, it is America's favorite salad dressing.
Beyond this great taste, ranch dressing is all about friendship, togetherness, and making sure folks enjoy what they eat.
No stress and it's the dressing that everyone loves.
On a salad, with your chicken tenders can't get enough.
Carry around, lend us your ears, to tell all your friends up the glory -filled story about the vegetable ranch. When I was a kid, I wasn't super into eating my veggies.
I knew they were good for me, but something was missing.
Then one day I went to a friend's house and he had some broccoli and he was deep in this sauce.
This ranch dressing.
I took a taste and was amazed.
From that moment on eating my veggies was easy.
Ranch is a complimentary flavor.
It's perfect on a lot of things and it's great for sharing and has been since it was invented.
In fact it got famous due to act of friendship by its inventor.
Story has it that when Rand's dressing creator Stephen Henson made food for his co -workers and friends, he would offer them a new type of dressing.
Thanks for having me for dinner Stephen.
Of course. I love cooking for all my co -workers and friends.
Everything looks great.
I think I'll start with the salad.
Whoa. What is this?
It's amazing! I'll just some lettuce and some greens.
No, not that. The dressing.
It's amazing! Oh, that.
It's something I've been working on to make the meals more interesting.
I'm glad you like it.
Like it? I love it.
I need a jar. Wait no. 10 jars of this to take home.
His name was Steve and Hanson.
He was working in Alaska.
He made some friends and they had to ask them.
Steven you'll do this but you're amazing.
What a blessing! What's on the salad?
Ranch dressing! The dressing wasn't hit with the family and friends, he made it for everybody again and again.
Stephen and his wife eventually bought a ranch that they named Hidden Valley, where they sold the dressing.
Hidden Valley Ranch is still sold in stores today, in fact, three out of four households have it in their pantry.
Today you can find ranch flavored chips, you can use it as a dip for pizzas, and even will buffer loans, adding a cooling effect that pairs well with many spicy foods.
Ranches America's favorite flavor with Americans consuming over 100 million bottles of this stuff each year, spending way more money on ranch than catch up.
100 million bottles of ranch on the wall.
People love it so much. It can never fall.
No plan, pots and ranch is awesome.
And that's the fact.
Talked about it so much. I think it's time for snack.
I think you've got the right idea, Randi.
Let's have a snack together.
After all, Ranch is all about friendship.
Snack time. That's what I'm talking about, Randy, the Cool Ranch Kid over and out.
Wow, Randy, the ranch rapper.
How did you get him for your Declaration of Greatness?
I had to pull some strings, but it worked out in the end.
Caroline, what stood out to you about Devons Declaration of Greatness.
Randy reminded me of, um, Thomas Jefferson from Hamilton and as I said, in musical theater girly and I'm like, where am I?
And also THE, Like veggie thing where you don't want to eat your veggies.
And then you dip them and then you're like, Oh, yes, not that that very good.
All right, Mark, it is time for you.
Our rAVIDL, tell us why ranch is rancid.
You've got 30 seconds and your time starts now.
Okay, Ranchery was spit in bars but I will say anything you can dip Ranchery you can dip ketchup into Have you not had ketchup with your carrots or your pizza with your ketchup?
I know it's unusual, but don't clock it until you try it Also people are spending more money on ranch because people get ketchup away for free in packets They don't do that for ranch because they're stingy with that stuff ranch will also spoil overnight Even if it is dairy -free and ketchup doesn't spoil as fast and sauce cups that ranch comes in I mean, other than the bottle.
You know, they take up more room in the trash.
Is something that you might not.
Whoa, but branch is delicious.
And that's why people want it more.
Mm. All right, Merck, tell us about all those people who like catch up.
It's your turn. Tell us why catch up is the boss of sauce.
Hey, you're just in time, I'm about to try out this new TV streaming service catch up plus.
All catch up content, see.
The dread sauce is the very best. It's travel -far and white.
Can be eaten with like anything.
It's a compliment, decided.
What else we got? Yep.
So, I just polished my brass with it.
You just squeeze a little bit on there.
Little dabbledouya, and then you get your cloth catch -a -b and rub it on in.
Amazing! Ooh! What's this?
How about we catch this cooking up a nach, huh?
On the meatloaf. B -bink beans.
B -bink. Sloppy Joe's bam.
Gotta catch up. That's quality entertainment.
Oh catch up. The ever -evolving multipurpose, comforting condiment that's the smash boom best. Ketchup has roots all over the world.
Seriously. Hop on board my ship and I'll catch you up on the history of Ketchup.
We're sailing over to Southeast Asia.
I wanna show you a special sauce that helped pave the way for Ketchup.
It's known as pothys in the Philippines, nampla in Thailand and nikmama in Vietnam.
In English, we call it fish sauce.
Now, you might be thinking of fishy Ketchup as a little sketch. Ugh, I disagree.
It's rich in smell and history dating back to 300 B .C.
Like other salty foods, it could last for months.
People didn't start calling it ketchup until nearly 2000 years later, when people in southern China started eating the salty sauce from Southeast Asia.
They called it ketchup, kochiap, or koytsab in hockey in Chinese.
The pronunciation stuck all the way through the 1600s when Dutch and English traders brought this racking sass home with them.
And speaking of rocking, mind if we dog this boat now, I'm getting seasick.
In the 18th century, Europeans concocted Katja with fermented walnuts, mushrooms, and oysters, but about 100 years later in 1812, tomatoes entered the recipe, and the rest is delish -stay.
Today we use Katjaab on so many American favorites, like meatloaf, burgers, fries, and hotdogs.
But this Ruby Red Beauty is a fave elsewhere too.
In Japan, it's on Olu Rice, in Germany.
It's in curry verse, and it doesn't have to be read.
There's green tomato catch up in Quebec.
And a catchy thing about ketchup is that it can be used for other things besides eating.
Thanks to its tomatoes salt and vinegar, you can use it to polish brass, detarnished license plates, and clean old tools.
Oh no, my wrench is rusted.
That's better. Not only is ketchup versatile, it's also comforting.
Close your eyes for a minute and think of one of your favorite meals.
For me, it's my mom's home -cooked ketchup noodles.
It makes me think of being a kid again, sitting at the table with my older siblings, the you catch up in the air it was my mom serving us love in the form of a meal chances are, catch up is a big part of your life too like a dependable friend It's always there in a red squeezy bottle at a diner in the fridge at your house in an emergency stash of packets from a burger place you keep nearby for your fries, catch up is always around.
Reliable, delicious, internationally beloved and unbeatably cozy.
Catch up the Smash Boom Best Show.
A very heartfelt declaration full of lots of delistory there.
Caroline what's out to you about Merck's argument?
First of all we had quite a few bad funny puns in there so that was good.
So the Pokemon, play on the day We're recording this, it's actually National Pokemon Day.
So I was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, it's national Pokemon Day, the Pokemon. And Caroline is also wearing a Pokemon shirt.
I am wearing a Pokemon shirt.
Excellent. All right.
They've on. It is time for your rebuttal.
Tell us why we should dethrone this Condiment King.
You've got 30 seconds and your time starts now.
Whoa, you're telling me that Catra Pascal has so much acidity in it that it could take rust off that, That is, you don't want that inside, everybody.
Also the sugar content in ketchup is so bad that that's the reason why it doesn't go bad so easily.
Earlier someone said that people give out ketchup for free, that's because nobody wants it.
Uh, uh. And also what else, it has like, that's, it's not good for your teeth.
That is great that it has such a good history.
But ketchup is like the Pokemon of sauce it's stronger and stronger with each iteration, you know fish sauce to wallets, tomatoes.
And it's like the Alexander ketchup tin of sauces, you know what I mean?
I'm sorry Erinburr, sir, but um, it's just, it is okay.
Caroline, it is time to award some points.
Please give one point to the Declaration of Greatness that you liked best and one point to the rebuttal that one you over.
You get to decide what makes a winning argument Did one team's jokes make you giggle was another team's logic impeccable?
Award your points, but don't tell us who they're going to Have you awarded your points yes, yes, I have Awesome merc and Devan how are you two feeling so far?
I'm feeling saucy you know, I'm feeling spicy as a sriracha ketchup I'm feeling pretty good You know, I don't know the connection between Pokemon and ranch by the third and third one.
I'm sure there's one.
That's for the other one.
It is time for a quick break, dip those wings, and sauce those taunts.
And we'll be right back to our Smash Boom Best!
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A fallacy is an argument that's easy to tear down because it's not logical.
The circular reasoning fallacy is when someone ends an argument with the same point as the one they started with.
Yup, the argument just goes round and round, like, saying, Mary go rounds are fun, because people have fun on Mary go round.
Weeey. Or cats are mean, because they aren't nice.
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I'm your host, Molly Bloom, and I'm your Judge Caroline And we love getting debate suggestions from our listeners.
Take a listen to this debate idea from Libby.
My name is Libby. I'm from Massachusetts.
My debate idea is where is yours versus magicians.
What a spell -viding debate idea!
We'll check back in at the end of this episode to see which side Libby thinks should win!
And now, it's back toward a debate.
Ketsha versus Ranch. That's right.
And it's time for round two.
The… Micro -round. For the Micro Wild Challenge, each team has prepared a creative response to a prompt they received in advance.
For Devon and Merck, the prompt was, to be, or not, to be.
Devon and Merck were asked to write a Shakespearean monologue about their side.
Devon went first last time, so Merck, you're up.
Give us your ode to catch up.
Attention! Attention to all citizens of bland land.
I apologize for how societies be run by former ruler Ranches ravenous hands.
But fear not mind people for I have a royal decree.
A delicious gift I shall give with great pace to thee.
In your possession, here's an international sensation, in a central condiment for every saustation.
This glistening red treasure packs a powerful punch, eat with eggs in the morn or spuds as lunch. To sweet and tangy and what some call umami can be put in soups or on meats like salami, don't just take my word for it.
for how great it tastes, there are notable folk among you who add it to their wastes.
The pig -skinned - throwing Patrick, yes, Mahomes is his name.
It's grilled chicken fries and ketchup before his games.
Jane Austen, the intelligent lady who has written many a book, enjoys hers with walnuts, tiz and old recipe I presume of its colliquity looks.
The lute -playing Ed Sheeran has loved this as he was the lad.
Has a permanent thinking of it, and I'm talking to you, I believe it's what one calls this fat.
The time is now for you to slumber and receive a good Mario's rest. With love from your saucy sauverne, I give you my best!
Oh my goodness, what, and old?
Indeed. All right, Devan, now it is your turn.
Show us how Hamlet would order.
his ranch. A salad dress, a tang for thine -own tongue.
Barely I seek the ranch!
My search bega! What doth this flavor best not dress?
Not much! Not much!
This flavor is best not dressed yet such!
I seek the tang, this sprang for all.
Hear now! I seek the ranch that makes the worst best somehow!
Portions and morsels from all realms made bowl!
A flavor to savor for all time told.
Verily, merily, his terribly, I seek the ranch for ketchup is not good.
I seek it the ranch, as most have and should.
What say you, Doth, destruct thine own taste?
What say you, who uses ketchup?
Such waste. Verily I seek the ranch, not in me, ranch, is, and shall be best for all to see!
Oh, very well said there, Dave on.
Caroline, what did you like about Dave on and Merk's oats?
My theater kid's staff is eating so well today.
The medieval music in both of them was peak.
I thought it was really funny in Merk's one where she would randomly remember that like Shakespeare and so she would like shoe horn in like thine and I'm like that was funny.
I also, and then Dave bonds had more actual like Shakespeare in and it which was funny as well.
Very excellent work both of you but Caroline only one of our poets here can receive a point.
The criteria are totally subjective and totally up to you.
Have you made your decision?
Fantastic! Then it's time for our third round, the super stealthy!
Sneek Attack! This is our improvised round where debaters have to respond to a challenge on the spot.
Today's Sneek Attack is called Style Sense.
Merck and Avon, if your side had a fashion line, what would it be called?
What would it look like?
Tell us about some of the pieces in the collection.
You'll have 60 seconds max to tell us about it.
Debaters, does this make sense?
Are you ready for this sneak attack?
I think I'm ready. Oh, oh snap, sorry, you know when in the bottle like the sauce is stuck, that's my brain right now.
That's okay, it'll all come out.
It will. That happens with cancer.
It happens with ranch too.
Have you care a life?
All right. We're going to start with Dave Vaughn, tell us what outfits are on the cover of a ranch magazine.
So ranch magazine, great publication.
It's been here for about 50 years.
We're talking cowboy outfits, but like but chic.
We're talking leather cowboy hats.
we're talking cowboy fits that you could wear, to grandma's house, but also to the club.
We're talking little lasso's that you could grab your ranch with, but they're all begazzled with diamonds and things like that.
We're talking barbricore, we're talking lots of bright colors, but also little reds and whites to sort of symbol buffalo -wing style, uh, that's the thing.
No, like buffalo ranch dressing.
It's kinda orange though, don't you think?
Yeah, but that's because of the shade content.
Oh, he's always the sugar with you.
Okay, Mark, it is your turn.
What looks is ketchup putting on the runway?
You have it most 60 seconds.
Go ahead. Two words, ketchup, chromatic, uh, okay.
You know, I mentioned ketchup is like a ruby red glistening Sweet!
Yes, Devan. Wonder you've got your your ketchup tops You know, you can go with the crop top you can go with a crew neck You can go with a long sleeve you can go with these pants The ketchup comes in these chromatic sweat pants That you know easily washed off if you get the ketchup orange if you know you're into that On you There's also like ketchup crocs.
Oh my gosh that line just dropped.
Let me tell you It is so comforting just like catch up.
It's a classic, I can't wait for you to try out these designs, catch up by catch up, catch up Chromatica, everything you could possibly want for any occasion, any time of day, there's even those catch up night guards that the eye masks, you know?
That look like catch up packets, it's so cool.
I can't wait for you to invest in this piece of fashion and for your politics.
Two amazing fashion lines described there, Caroline.
This time to award a point to one of these amazing descriptions.
I have to pick between chamel -grown pink pony club and what I wear on a daily basis.
It's not hard. The choice is tough, choice.
I go into your position.
Alright Caroline, think about which side impressed you the most and award your fourth point.
But don't tell us who it's going to.
Have your awarded your point?
Yep. Wonderful! It's time for our final round!
The final six. In this round, each team will have just six words to sum up the glory of their side.
Merck, let's hear your six words for ketchup.
Ketchup, the ultimate Pokemon of sauces.
Oh! Gotta kitchen up off!
All right, divine. It is your turn.
Give us six words for ranch. Ranch helps food taste better.
Yay! The enthusiasm.
All right, Caroline, it is time to award a final point for this final six.
. Having a true decision.
Yes, I have. Oh my goodness, tally up those points.
Are you ready to crown one team of Smash Pump Best?
I think I am. Drum roll please.
And the winner is...
Ranch. Yes! Oh, that is awesome.
Thank you so much. Thank you.
This is an honor. I'm bleeding blood red catch -up over here.
Okay! I hope the dyes in that don't stand the pants that you - Yeah, we don't because this line of pants just comes right off.
That's what she just said.
She literally said their heads.
So that you can clean them.
Caroline, was there a favorite moment of the debate or a moment that really sealed the deal for a ranch?
I think Ranch is fun because it was like funnier, I don't know.
We just got you some Joe.
But I will say, Ketchup won the rebuttal and the final six.
Um, yeah, Pikachu does love ketchup.
So I do. It's canon.
It is. There's an entire episode about him just like being in love with a bottle of ketchup.
It's really weird. Oh, yeah.
So it's three two. It was very close.
Yes, as close as a debate can be.
I think Merck did a great job.
I did not know about the deep history of ketchup.
I didn't know how personal it would get, and I applaud you for doing what you did and giving us the knowledge that you gave us.
No, Daveon, I just want to say, you know, you are a legend.
When I heard you on the escalators and elevators episode, I went, he is so flippant cool and you were so creative that saucy Shakespeare and soliloquy, man, bars.
And also just, I will say, you know, like one of my favorite saucy is a dill rant and it's delicious, I can't complain about it.
So, thank you for giving us - Do that, can you say dillicious.
Who's here, you did.
That's it for today's debate battle.
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Devan is there anyone you'd like to give a shout out dude today.
I would like to give a big shout out to the Shilling family and my girlfriend, whom I love and also a Stephen Henson, the guy who created ranch dressing because he liked having friends over for dinner.
Come on, Darfur. How about you, work and a special shout out?
My top catch up connoisseurs.
My sister and my husband, they're a catch up, freaks I tell ya.
19th century food scientists from Billy Lake Henry J.
Hines, my mom of course, by the catch of noodles.
Davidon, seriously, I'm so stoked.
I don't even care that I lost. I'm hearing debating with you.
Caroline of course and Tememetos.
Oh, and how about you, Caroline?
Any special things or shout out?
I would like to thank both of my cats, Esco and Malo.
I would like to take all of my friends and I would like to thank my dog, Wellington, and my little brother Gabriel, and my mom and my dad.
wonderful, before we go let's check in and see who Libby thinks should win the wizards versus magician's debate.
I think that wizards would win because they do real magic and made your students only do tricks.
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I do appreciate the Hamilton puns, that they might be running out of time.
Oh, oh. The Soldest Story podcast is about how teaching kids to read went wrong.
But now we have a story about a school district where things are going very bright.
Let me make sure my friends are sitting Chris Cross apple sauce, hands in their lap.
I've never had a child that couldn't read.
How did they do it?
When I tell some of my other colleagues that may be at other schools that this is what I do, Never see you.
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