I saw you took a trip to the Tesla factory.
What were your thoughts after meeting Elon Musk?
Did you get to speak to him much?
I wouldn't say much.
We spoke probably for 20 minutes in total, not purely privately because there was other people around but that just barely gets you to know the surface of someone like Musk, because he's an amazing person and God only knows what's.
What's up with him.
All things considered.
We saw his new truck.
He was taking people out for a ride.
I didn't go out for a ride.
The truck's an amazing piece of engineering.
The factory is massive.
What do you say about someone who built a functional electric car and then shot it into space on a rocket?
He's a singular person.
But I thought it went very well.
It was a very interesting evening.
So I was pleased to be there.
And, you know, we sort of walked around each other a bit and it was just fine.
Do you guys interact a fair bit on Twitter?
We seem to, yeah.
Why do you think that is?
Why are you converging?
Don't know, i don't know exactly.
Um, we're both well known and i suppose to some degree that that increases the probability of that kind of convergence.
But maybe he's aiming up me too, he seems to be.
He's aiming up literally.
He's aiming up very literally.
Yeah definitely, didn't he put a?
Wasn't there a spaceman, a model of a spaceman, in the driver's seat of the car that he put out into space?
Oh, that's certainly possible.
He's got a theatrical twist.
There's no doubt about that.
And a great sense of humor, because that's really funny to shoot your own car out into space on a rocket.
That's a pretty damn good joke.
What is it?
What is it that's, or why is it that someone like Elon has got himself to the stage where he can say things that almost every other CEO, you know, he's the richest man on the planet.
I don't think he's got himself to that stage.
I think he's always done that, and so now he still knows how to do it.
I mean, you know, people think I'll say what I have to say when I get to the point where I'm protected and secure.
It's like, first of all, being protected and secure does not give you the courage to say what you have to say.
That's a completely that theory couldn't be more backwards.
You think you're going to get braver and braver as you get more and more protected.
You think that's how the world works.
I mean, i've watched university professors think that at some point they're going to say what they think as they develop their career, but by the time they're protected and secure they've spent so much time not saying what they think that they aren't even who they were and they don't know what they think.
So no, he says what he says because he's always done that and people who are like him are like that, and so steve jobs, i presume, was exactly the same way.
I mean, i know people who knew him.
He always said what he thought and and he was pretty damn cut and dried about it, which is why the apple products are such miracles of of technological mastery.
He had an unbelievably canny design eye and was very.
He cut whole projects without a second thought, in some sense, when they weren't working.
He did that when he came back to Apple the second time, refined the entire product line, got rid of a ton of different things.
And so we're focusing on this.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
So that was proof.
I mean, maybe it was Luke the first time, which it wasn't, but coming back and doing it again the second time showed pretty clearly
Same with same with Elon, right?
He's refined down what he does to a couple of very, very tight parameters.
Well, he seems to have, although the enterprise he's put together is unbelievably high functioning.
I mean to produce an automobile sub-industry that's actually competitive and to bring down the cost of space exploration by a factor of 10, and to invent reusable rockets and to have developed this boring technology.
It's miraculous.
He's probably an alien.
Yeah, probably probably.
There's only two probably a reptilian.
Isn't American car companies I think that haven't gone bust Ford and Tesla, and Tesla came very close a number of times.
Yeah, it's an amazing accomplishment.
So go Elon as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, he's a remarkable person.
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