That's the T.I. we know.
For real.
That brother with the locks, I don't know him.
Yeah, we don't know him.
I don't recognize him.
He was dressing like an auntie a little bit.
He was standing weird in pictures.
That person, I don't know.
He was dressing like an auntie is crazy, bro.
A fundamental error, and this is maybe Jack is young, soul is about feeling.
Not about being cool.
He tried to be cool. and thought that was gonna give soul, and that's not what it is.
But I think people would have been more patient if that beat was really banging.
No, I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
All her shit's been fire, bro.
No one's saying that.
No, I know, but it's like, oh, Nadeski, you did such a good job.
Oh, fucking of course, B. She on this couch, working with us.
She's the shit.
No, thank you.
You know what I'm saying?
No, thank you.
Thank you.
She fucking sat with Rihanna, B. What are you talking about?
J. Cole, too.
What are you talking about?
Write some other names.
Give us all the names.
She sat with you and Kendrick.
She sat with you and Kendrick.
Baby Keem.
Kendrick Lamar.
She sat with Baby Keem.
Keem.
Keem didn't talk to nobody.
You want to talk to her.
Rap Life Review, Nick and Eddie in L.A.
Lo, Nadeska, and I am Ebro in New York City.
We had a little hiatus last week because somebody was busy.
Somebody was on vacation.
Somebody was working.
Somebody was on vacation.
No, that's not what happened.
You had to go down to North Carolina.
Yeah.
Baby King was there.
You had things going on.
There was a lot going on, but you was also on vacation, just to be clear.
No, don't put this on me, bro.
On my kids, what I was doing.
It's all about you, bro.
It's all about you.
I think first things first, we can get to the comments.
I want to formally apologize.
When we were having the hip-hop classic album debate, I missed something that's very important.
What's that?
A hip-hop album and a rap music album.
Mm-hmm.
And I think we throw the word hip hop album around too much, when really what we're saying is a rap album.
Okay.
And we know there's a difference because I misspoke on the Lauryn Hill situation.
Because Lauryn Hill's not a rap album.
It is a hip hop album.
Right?
There is rapping and singing on it.
And there's samples and R&B records on there.
So it's very hip hop in that regard.
Um, but there is a difference.
I think what you want from Drake and what people are jamming Drake up about is about an all rap album.
Which I think we've articulated very well over the past.
Yeah, but we say hip hop though.
So what you're saying, hold on, what I'm hearing was I was right.
That's what I heard.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yes, you were.
Absolutely.
Absolutely, Eddie.
OK, all right, all right.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But I think that needs to be articulated better.
So does Drake have any hip hop classics?
So I think and that goes back and I'm glad you said that, Nick that goes back to the discussion around Drake's album being albums being hip hop.
Now, we've all said that we feel like Drake has classics.
Right.
But I think the people are yearning from Drake.
If you're wanting anything from Drake.
Not his fans, because his fans get what they need, clearly.
They want an all rap album.
Yeah, that's me.
And I think that convo got lost.
It gets lost because there's things that can be based in hip hop but they're not necessarily rap specifically.
But you know what I'm saying.
So I think that nuance.
The lines were blurred a little bit.
I just think it's a nuanced convo.
Shout out to that one shorty.
That one shorty went back like three years and found one of your old conversations talking about Lauryn Hill and pulled the receipts.
Yeah, man, there was some girl on TikTok.
I posted the clip right of us arguing about Lauryn Hill being a hip-hop album and you guys disagreeing, which you just apologized about.
So thanks again.
I appreciate it.
So I posted it and some girl.
She took that and then found some video of you three years ago talking about how Lauren Hill's Miseducation of Lauren Hill is a classic hip hop album.
Completely contradicting what you said in that clip.
I didn't see that.
Listen, I don't know who Shorty was.
And great research.
She cooked with that one.
Great research.
And she's writing.
Some of the questions in the comments were people responding, like you know.
So GNX is not a hip hop album because Luther is on it.
That's not the same thing.
Well, I think they're trying to say because there's singing.
No, it's more, but it's still a rap record.
It's still a rap record.
Come on, man.
I think Lauryn Hill is the definition or many of these Drake albums are the definition of the difference between a rap album And a hip hop album.
That's primarily rap and a hip hop album.
That may have some singing on it, but it's based in the hip hop sampling, aesthetic production, et cetera, et cetera.
So I think that's like the best.
It's even like how the lines are blurred with like Don Toliver.
Like, is he a singer?
Is he a rapper?
It is hip hop, but is it rap?
He's a hip hop artist.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I think, and I think that's, I think we can do better at that.
Okay.
Okay.
I think everybody, I think we can all start to work on that because that is a blurry line.
Right.
And we got to be able to articulate it when it needs to be.
New music.
Mike Will made it.
Y'all went through this project.
Yup.
How you feel about it?
Some good ones on there.
I really, my favorite on there is the track that he got with Young Thug.
That's kind of what I wish I would have heard on Young Thug's album.
That one was fire.
Always good to hear my boy 2 Chainz, you know what I'm saying?
Titty Boy's on fire.
I love the J. Cole.
I love what Luda did on the Tizo touchdown.
I like the 21 Savage that opens up the project.
I like the Money Talks.
The T.I.
Killer Mike is crazy.
Yeah, Money Talks.
T.I.'
's got it kind of on a roll right now, too.
Shout out to the boy, too.
He got a new single out, too.
That song gets bigger and bigger every week.
He got another song out, Trauma Bond.
Trauma Bond's fire.
All he had to do was cut his hair off.
Man, he had to cut his hair off, put that hat to the side.
I mean, I think it's a little bit of everything, though, Ed.
I think it was the dust up with 50 Cent, you know what I mean?
Yeah, but when he cut his hair and that record came out, that's when we knew he returned.
That's when we was like, all right, fuck the 50 Cent shit.
That's the T.I. we know, for real.
That brother with the locks, I don't know him.
Yeah, we don't know him.
I don't recognize him.
He was dressing like an auntie a little bit.
He was standing weird in pictures.
That person, I don't know.
He was dressing like an auntie.
It's crazy, bro.
Listen.
That's hella specific.
Now listen, T.I. don't come for me.
T.I. don't come for me.
I don't want no problems.
I don't want the kids to come for me.
It's just something I saw on the internet, T.I.
Don't come for me.
So you're recycling somebody else's shots.
Look, man, that's 70% of my material.
It's just things that I saw on the internet.
Listen, but the second he got that old swagger back, bro...
I'm here.
And usually, we're finally in the era where these older rappers can come back.
And you know they're not selling a gazillion albums, but they're part of conversations that they didn't used to be part of.
It used to be just Jay-Z and Kanye West were the only older rappers that mattered.
Like, if you weren't that big, we just didn't care.
Jay-Z's a whole other conversation.
I mean, Wayne cared.
We cared about what Wayne was doing.
We ain't just now getting old, though.
Like, Jay-Z and... You mean, like, literally you're over 45?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not even in the game a long time.
Yeah, that's how I took it.
But like your age.
Yeah, we didn't care about you once you got a certain age.
And yet again, we don't care.
They're not going to be number one first week, selling 150000 copies, but they're part of the conversation.
You do hear the songs outside.
People aren't just turning them off.
Even the younger generation, if it comes on, they're not going to turn it off.
So the TI, it's not a rebrand.
Is it a rebrand?
That's not a rebrand.
It's like a return to form.
Yeah, return to form.
Back like you never left.
Yeah, it's definitely not a rebrand.
Yeah, nah, seriously, that Mike Wills fire, y'all, if you haven't spent time with it, check it out.
And me and Mike Will was able to actually catch up.
You know what I'm saying?
Make sure you watch the interview because I hadn't seen Mike Wills since, back when I was screaming about Complex putting Ray Sherman at number three.
All genres album.
Did y'all talk about it?
Yeah, we talked about it.
We talked about it for sure.
So make sure you check out the clip.
But here he is talking about orchestrating.
I look at my production more like Tom Ford or like, you know what I'm saying, Laura Piano.
Yeah, it's like I can, you can get this suit.
And you could just walk out.
You'd be like, man, I don't want my pants hemmed or nothing.
Okay, cool.
You could just buy this suit.
You just get a beat.
You know what I'm saying?
Or if you lock in the studio with me, now I can tailor make this.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I can tailor, make this for your album, or to your body, or to your flow, or to you.
Know what I'm saying to you?
I can tailor make this around your world.
That's what most rappers fuck up.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Because a lot of producers just come in and just- Make a beat.
Give them a suit and just be like, man, you don't got to- Got the Knicks warehouse jewelry.
Yeah, you ain't got to hem them- Off the rack.
Exactly, you know what I'm saying?
You don't got to hem them legs, man.
Just go on out there, put a belt on, man, you good.
You know what I'm saying?
But then when you get that tailored suit and you see what it feel like, and I got to make sure Like, just like any of these suits I gotta make sure that tailoring is right.
It's representing your brand.
Exactly because if five years later you know what I'm saying this song ain't aged well, that joint wasn't tailored right.
Speaking of older rappers coming around, Rosé got a record.
Joins fire, means to Miami, Max B, French Montana.
That's a heater.
Shout to Big X to plug and his whole squad with the 6WA.
I love the way it opens up with the DOC on there.
Dallas, big Dallas energy.
So shout to that whole thing.
One of my favorites right now.
Snoop's on there.
Listen, bro.
Yo, Rosama?
I fuck with Rosama heavy.
Rosama's the reason Big X started rapping.
Big X told me in the first place.
Son, Rosama is the one.
I fuck with him.
His flow is stupid.
I love him on this album.
He got many different styles, too.
Yeah, but I just love him on this album particularly.
He's my favorite rapper homeboy since probably, like, Murphy Lee.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I ain't had a rapper homeboy I like this much since Jody Breeze.
You know what I'm saying?
That's exactly how he comes off.
Like, oh, man, like, why is this guy not more famous?
Also taking the whole concept, because if you haven't listened to it like okay, so the whole reason why and I'm sorry, I'm sucking up a lot of oxygen right now
But the whole reason why I like Big X to plug is he had a project called Meet the Sixers.
And it was these guys, Young Hood, I believe is the other homie's name.
Yeah. and then Rosama and Big X The Plug, and that dropped before Big X was even that high.
Fire.
It was the same thing, taking these great samples, quick songs, boom.
Then Big X The Plug dropped The Country Project, which he said on the album, made a million off of country.
Like, put him out here in a whole nother stratosphere.
I didn't like that version of Big X, because I'm a Big X fan off of Meet the Sixers.
Getting back to this and not only having all these dudes rapping, but taking the theme of West Coast.
NWA.
6WA NWA, and then having DOC, who was an affiliate of NWA, who was also from Dallas Texas, taking it to the west coast, so an homage to west coast art.
That was kind of like my beginning of loving rap and then shout out to rosama, like you said, to rapping in multiple different styles, like doing the easy thing and multiple different tracks, Getting Snoop on it, taking that old Funky Worm sample that is so synonymous with West Coast sounds.
If you haven't listened to it, man, this 6WA project, and yet again, give me the Rosama solo album.
Right now.
I'm ready for that.
It's really hard for rappers' homeboys to make moves, but I hope he can do it.
Rosama could do it.
He's the MVP of this album.
Definitely.
For sure.
For sure.
Now, that was very positive.
I'm not quite sure how this Jack Harlow situation is about to land on this show.
There was a lot made of it last week when we was out.
We'll start with Nadeska.
How do you feel about the Jack Harlow album?
I'm going to let you guys go in, but I'll just say this.
Because people just try to set me up.
It's so crazy sometimes.
Well, no, I was actually trying to start positive.
I was hoping that you were going to be like, no.
I got you.
I got you.
Here we go.
Here we go.
So before the album came out, jack had a listening in new york right at electric lady studios.
We went, we heard the album in the room and in those things it's hard to always like process a full project.
But he was talking about all the, the musicians he got to work on on the album, working with robert glasper, all of that.
So i will say that What he explained in that room at least his intentions or the people he worked with on the album.
I was a little bit surprised at how the rollout kicked off.
I didn't think it was going to end like that.
But everybody has been super charged up.
I've been a little bit busy.
So maybe you guys share your thoughts.
So let me ask you the way he presented it in the room, did it come off how he presented it during that podcast for the New York Times?
No.
The polar opposite of what you heard at Electric Lady and how he presented that.
It's like Ebro's itching to go.
I don't know why you want to go there.
Because all I really want to say is I feel like the interview that you're referencing.
Yes. shaped the way people received the album.
And that's probably one of the biggest missteps in the rollout of the album.
Right was the fact that he sat down with two white dudes and talked about this album, him getting blacker, which is like i know what he was trying to say, which is, i didn't try to go in the traditional, i'ma go more poppy, more white, more mainstream.
No, i went into soul, literally black the the, the essence of black music.
Right, because he knows he's an outsider, He knows that he is someone, whether it was in hip hop.
Now you're stepping into this zone.
This is the holy grail of black American music.
And that's something that black people clearly, you can tell by the blowback, take very serious.
Now I want to add this if he hadn't done that convo okay hypothetically, and we just heard the album and we, the same way you, walked in and we just heard a kid that we think is talented.
He's a dope rapper.
And we heard those productions and.
I would still personally feel the same way I feel today.
I do too.
Which is musically, the album is phenomenal.
Jack did not land it. he didn't give enough for what that music was giving.
And I've been through the album.
No lie trying to.
I'm like yo.
How did they let him out the door like this?
Yeah.
So you love the production.
You don't like everything he did over the production.
I don't feel like he gave it.
I feel like he a fundamental error, and this is maybe Jack is young.
Soul is about feeling, not about being cool.
He tried to be cool and thought that was gonna give soul, and that's not what it is.
And that's the intangible, sometimes that people don't understand, I believe, when you're listening to RB and soul music and black music, is because the feeling, there's an intangible feeling, There's these things that you can only get from a certain experience and feeling that some artists can deliver.
Now some artists get by because they sing really well and they're making RB and you're like yo, you sing really good and I like the songs, but you ain't Anthony Hamilton.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, there's levels to, you're not D'Angelo.
You know what I'm saying?
So there's levels to, yeah, I can sing.
Now, Jack, he doesn't, he's not barring it up. and he's not singing and he's not giving.
So what's left?
Like a vibe.
That's all it was.
And I think that's even more when you get into the album, you're like, it's cool.
It's nice.
And that's where it ends.
Y'all spent more time with it than I did.
I really was like yo, how did you go out here and get all this amazing music and not land this, my guy?
So at least the production was good.
That's what we could hear in there.
No, no, no.
When you turn it on, when them beats come on, you're like, yo, OK, what we about to do next?
The production was all right.
But I look at it like this.
Jack was gone for about three years, right?
Jackman was his last album.
So him coming back to the fold with this kind of album was such like a 180 where we weren't even prepared for what this was gonna sound like, what it could look like.
It just came out with no explanation and then using, I went blacker.
That's what I'm saying.
So you just lost us with, like, why and where?
And we'll never.
I don't know if he could ever substantiate whether he named it Monica like my nigga, Monica like the internet joke.
You can't even, what are you going to say?
I hope, I hope, I hope.
Can I do the fun part?
All right, go ahead.
Yeah.
Can we vote?
You guys ready to vote?
On what are we voting on?
Yeah, what are we voting on?
You ready?
Yep.
Charlie Kirk Franklin, IRS 1.
Oh, shit.
Tyler, the developer, Blantony Hamilton, Music Rothschild, Wizza, 9th Wonder Bread, Manifest Destiny Child, White Thought, Neo Nazi, Maxwell Off, De La Stole, Culture, Brian McWhite, 50 Pence, Cool G, Rappaport, and D'Angelo.
Mine is, my favorite is IRS 1.
Nah.
IRS 1?
IRS 1, that's my favorite.
I'm going to tell you the Ellis 1.
Which one?
The Ellis 1 is Michael McDowell.
It's not on your list.
That's the illest one.
Michael McDowell.
Because McDowell's was the fake McDonald's.
And Michael McDonald is that dude, the white soul dude.
So you're Michael McDowell.
You're the fake McDonald's.
Nah, that was the illest one, B.
Nadeska, which one is your favorite as we vote?
I pass.
You guys can just vote.
She's had enough this week.
I did not need to give any input on this question.
I didn't spend enough time with the album.
Everybody's already mad because of this.
I didn't need to say anything at all.
Boom, I think I think the album will age better than this moment for some.
For some, I said for some, because it is vibey.
And so when you put it on and it's in the mix of other things, you might not be like as thrown off.
There's too much of a heavy ass stain on it.
No no no, like when it comes on and you don't know that it's on.
That's not a good thing either.
And you're like, yo, this sounds good.
Who's this?
Oh, this sounds bad.
That's the sting.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the sting, yeah.
But when you hear it without all of once again, without the interview, without all the noise, I do think musically, when you listen to it, it's not bad.
The music is great.
Now, let me ask you this, Eddie, this is for you.
Huh.
What if this album everything the same, but he had collabed with.
See, that's what I wanted.
Dwelle was on the hook.
That would have made sense.
Anthony Hamilton was on the hook.
Mm-hmm.
You know, he reached out to Guapale through an artist, I think, that would be like, yeah, no doubt.
Got you, bro.
Send the record or come in.
Him and Leon Thomas.
Him and Leon Thomas, what if that broke up some of the monotony of what he's not giving?
Okay, so I'm having a real conversation, right?
Like, I am biased a little bit towards Jack Harlow because he's nice to me.
We've interviewed some nice guys.
No, Jack Harlow's a nice guy, man.
It's got nothing to do with that.
Okay, but I'm going to get there.
And I also think he does have a love for the culture.
I also think that, right?
I don't think he's all the way a culture vulture like that.
However, my boy, I think collectively we were kind of already deciding if we wanted to do this anymore with Jack Harlow.
We were.
What do you mean, like, do what?
Like, meaning, like, he's dope, he's considered hip-hop?
Like, what's the convo?
Yeah, because even the reception for Jack man, it's like he started coming across where people and this is just generalization on Jack Harlow right.
Where a scene like, they were starting to turn on him a little bit.
Like, I don't know, there's not really no hits on Jack, man.
We hold you to a different standard when you're a white rapper.
It's like, all right, man, are you here for real or are you just playing with this?
Sorry, Eddie.
Sorry, Eddie.
And so by the time we got to this and you make an RB album, I don't think, no matter what you did, this ain't what we want from you, my boy.
You're not an R&B artist.
I want to say, I want to say.
It started when he was hanging out with Drake at the Kentucky Derby.
That's when the backlash started.
No, it didn't.
No, it didn't.
Look at the timeline.
Look at the timeline.
Even that record was fired.
No, it was.
Churchill Downs was fired.
Churchill Downs was fired.
I'm telling y'all.
That's not when the blowback started, bro.
I'm telling y'all.
But when did it start?
Why did it start after that?
What happened?
What was the blowback?
That's what I'm saying.
It was the music, bro.
The music wasn't good.
That's what he said.
Your quote was, we were deciding basically if he was allowed to be around anymore.
What was your quote?
We were deciding what?
Basically, yeah.
If we were done with this or not.
If we were done with this or not.
He's a dope rapper.
But that has nothing to do with it.
I don't agree with it.
I'm not saying I agree.
I'm saying it started with those moves.
Also too, I've applauded Jack Harlow.
Up until this point, I've applauded Jack Harlow for the way he moves, because and he said this in an interview he's the only rapper that's tried to follow the Drake blueprint right.
Oh, you had to bring it up again.
Well, yeah, he said he comes from the Drake school.
He said this.
He said this.
And I always applauded him for that, because I'm like yo if Drake is the biggest rapper in the world and he makes commercially appealing music, regardless if you think it's targeted music or not, Mos Def.
Why wouldn't somebody else like, yo, I want to be the second most famous rapper in the world.
Like, I want women to like me.
Like, why don't more?
And it's commercially appealing.
It's broadly liked by people.
Women like it.
Dudes like it.
Most rappers aren't trying to go the Drake route.
And he was willing to do it.
Make an R&B album, bro.
Like, you skipped a few steps.
I got a question for y'all on this.
Sorry, y'all go and then I'll ask the question.
No, no, we cut you off too much, Nez Heskett.
No, no, go, go, go.
My question was going to be so at this point, if you're Jack Harlow or you're somebody on his team, Now what?
Is there anything you want to hear from him?
Like, do you guys want to hear him say, sorry, I said this.
I was trying to make a joke that was really insensitive and dumb.
I shouldn't have made the R&B album.
Is there anything he can or should say?
Or at this point, he should just say nothing at all and we move on.
I think, if he does say anything, I just think he addresses the misstep and I think he addresses the articulation of what this project was supposed to look like to him and to others.
Just leave it at that.
Just address that and then leave it at that.
I also think Jack Harlow had the opportunity to go in and tell John Carmona and say hey man, is there a chance for you to take that line out?
And he chose not to.
Him and his team chose not to take that line out of the interview.
That's something they could have did.
I think that more speaks to them.
I think that more speaks to a lack of awareness of of self.
And one of the most triggering things about this for some not all, but some that were doing the think pieces on it was the once again, Black folks don't just get to show up and be like oh, I'm going to switch genres today.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm going to go.
Yeah, because even when we do it, it could be Beyonce and people still be mad.
And that was the point that many people made.
A black woman from Texas who grew up around country culture.
And it's embedded in who black people from Houston are showed up and even was in proximity to culture.
And the whole institution that claims they are the arbiters of country was basically like yeah, nah A, we're not giving you an Yo Beyonce.
How many years ago was it Eddie, when Beyonce showed up and performed at the Country Music Awards?
Just to support... Yeah, it was with the Dixie Chicks, I believe.
Yeah, just to support another artist that she collabed with.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So she was even ingratiating herself...
From early on.
From early on.
And at that point, the rodeo was, what was it, last week?
The Houston rodeo?
It's like literally, it's literally part of their culture.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, what are we talking about?
So I think that, just to put a bow on it, I think that was triggering for people who pay attention to this sort of thing.
The interview, then you turn on the album.
And for me, right as somebody who was trying to give Jack Harlow a pass like yo, he's a nice dude.
I think he really likes hip hop.
And look, I respect him wanting to make an R&B song.
Let me go ahead and check this out.
I didn't know he could sing.
Let me see where this goes.
And I turn it on, and I get a lackluster effort.
Yeah, I know you got the right musicians, but did you go see the RB songwriters, the people who actually
The vocalists.
No, the people who actually know how to do this stuff.
Because that's a thing in R&B.
This music that we love, there are individuals who craft it.
Phenomenally.
Jonte Austin.
I don't know if he went and did that.
You know, Brian Alexander Morgans and, you know, even Jermaine Dupri.
No, he just had Brian Michael Cox, Jonte Austin, Rodney Jerkins.
Yeah, man.
Did you actually tap in?
You know, Dre, who, you know, did Kehlani's Folded record.
And you know what I mean?
These guys.
Tricky Stewart, the dream.
So many.
So I don't know if he went and did that.
And it doesn't sound like he did.
At least he didn't make a country rock album like other white rappers do.
And that's why I wanted to give it.
That's why I wanted to give it kind of like, look ah.
And then I turned it on and was like
Like I said, he articulated that I didn't want to go that route like my other counterparts did.
He tried.
He did articulate that.
He's a rocker.
That's the stain on it.
No, but he did though.
He was trying.
He did, but no.
Yeah, but nah.
There's another situation of yeah, but nah.
Nah, the tan wore off.
Is Jack Harlow's major demographic a black audience though?
Well, it don't matter because you're playing in black music.
But it does matter, because if his fan base is white, which I don't know, do they want to hear an RB album in the first place?
But if we don't like it, they're not going to like it.
That's not true.
That is true.
That's 100% not true.
If it's black music and black people don't like it, white people don't like it.
That's not true.
Well, no, no, no, no.
Let me just set the table for y'all.
Let me just help you just really quick while y'all continue this, because I want this so much.
You're both saying the same thing, but different.
People can like something.
Doesn't mean it's going to pop.
It pops.
If you're making black music, it only pops if black people like it.
It might get popular with your audience.
It ain't here to stay though until black people go, nah, that's that real shit.
And then once we decide we're off, it might take a minute, but they'll be off too.
So that goes against the Post Malone conversation you're saying.
But Post Malone stopped making black music.
But it's still his audience ate it up though.
But he stopped making black music.
But if he continued making black music well, we can't never say, because we wouldn't say whether it was good or not.
But you can't use him as an example because he literally stopped making black music.
My question is, was Jack Harlow ever making black, it was black music, but who was he targeting?
If you make rap music- Who was he targeting?
Okay, so let's do the demographic of America.
If you sell a million albums, the majority of your audience is white now.
Yeah, for sure.
Period, point blank.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So all those famous rappers, they're Tyler the Creator and all those the reality of Jack Harlow.
He has to tread in a different water when making black art as a white artist.
Because if we all collectively decide, it's corny white people.
Eventually because this happened to me white have like vanilla ices of the world.
Like at first we probably were like, all right, this is all right.
And then boom, corny out of here.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't really remember.
He probably can speak to this a little bit better than I can.
I'm not gonna act like an expert.
But the reason why Eminem partially got to enjoy the longevity that he did, A, he's a phenomenal MC.
He made great music.
And he breathed hip hop.
So we never, even though we stopped being his audience because he was killing his mom and everything, we still always kind of rocked with him.
And he never got the corny tag.
The second you get the corny tag, it's over.
They stop fucking with you too.
And I think you also, hip hop is a little bit different than R&B.
Well, no, let me say it.
Hip hop is a lot different than R&B.
Hip hop is black music and based in black music, but it has achieved a level of mainstream success and entered or stayed in college youth angsty spaces, even going all the way back to Public Enemy.
Like punk, it's punk rock, it's rock.
That's why there hasn't been a.
You know, there's a whole theories on why there hasn't been modern day rock stars.
Is because you got the Uzi Verts, who are your rock stars now.
You know what I'm saying?
And so when you look at R&B and soul, That is the essence of black music.
You don't even have hip hop without R&B.
You know what I'm saying?
Like that's the backbone of it all.
That's the melody.
That's everything our ancestors built.
You know what I mean?
So if you're gonna do, there's a different expectation of you.
And you, if you're in that space or trying to be in that space, and the RB world isn't celebrating you and you are a non-black person.
You're just not going to go that far, man.
It's not as different than hip hop in that way.
It can have R&B roots like somebody like Adele, right?
That's not R&B.
It's R&B.
That's R&B.
But it's also not to a degree.
But it's also she can sing very well and knows and has respect for RB and soul and would never show up anywhere.
Absolutely. ever in life and say the wrong thing because she's done the work.
She knows the people.
And then she has people around her who have done the work.
And that's more kind of perplexing thing about the Jack Harlow thing is kind of like yo you do, You had to go around.
Yo, and that first one, I'll tell y'all this.
I had to go look and see that the album was categorized as R&B and soul.
I was hoping he'd put it in pop or something else.
He put it in, that's up to the label and all that.
They put it in R&B and sold.
Then I was like, yo, but you didn't go sit down with the R&B bloggers and the people.
R&B money would tank.
He could have sat with him.
Yo, Tank would have got you right.
And he would have got the right answers out of you and the explanations that we needed while you did that.
He would have got all that out of you.
Not those two, you know, no disrespect to them, but not those.
He was just disrespectful.
John, no disrespect.
You like John?
Yeah.
He's a nice guy.
He's a nice guy.
I think he's got a lot of heat out of this situation, too.
Kara Monica, didn't he?
He got a lot of heat on this one.
I don't know.
Yeah, he got a lot of blowback because of that sentiment.
Like, why you up there with them?
But how about this, though?
It's a true sentiment, though.
But the question that was being asked was a very astute, smart question from a white guy who recognizes that most white artists are not doing what jack harlow's attempting to do and was trying to give jack harlow space to talk about his love for black music.
But when you're not black and and, by the way, even if you are black, black people could get offended you up there kiki, and it's about something and making statements that Yeah, nah bro.
Nah, it ain't clean.
Like that's some nuances.
I believe in the black.
There's no like.
You can't just assume black folks is good with all of this nonsense and shenanigans and stuff man.
You can't do that.
That's not the case.
And so you up there talking about I got blacker.
That's because you're assuming you're cool in a space you're not.
In a specific space, yeah.
No favorite nicknames still.
Listen, man Jack Harlow, I wish you would have went better, but there is an RB Versus this week with two legends.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we have Tank and Tyrese.
You know what I'm saying?
On the Versus.
So make sure you tune in.
Check out the promo.
I don't have the energy.
Today should have been a sick day for me.
Y'all got this, though.
Yo, speaking of playing and getting blowback, LaRussell.
LaRussell.
Oh, man.
This is a heavy, this is a packed episode.
We're not even halfway through the same thing.
We're gone for two weeks.
No, no, no, seriously, seriously.
And I think we can simplify this LaRussell thing.
I think everybody up here pretty much likes LaRussell.
I don't have a problem with him.
The music may not be my competition.
I like him personally, and I like what he's doing with his business.
Yeah, I like the hustle.
I like all that.
And I've interviewed him multiple times.
Yeah.
Were you all offended by the song?
And do you think the outrage is warranted?
We'll start with Eddie.
Yeah.
All right, so Nick.
Maybe my third eye might have been wide open.
Nick in private, me and him had this conversation a long time ago.
I wanna see if Nick remembers it.
And I told you.
I told you back then.
I was like, man, and I've changed the way I feel.
But back then I was like, yo, I can't really take LaRussell seriously.
I don't know if I should listen to his music.
Nick, do you remember why I said I couldn't take LaRussell seriously?
Yeah, you want me to say it?
Yeah, go ahead, tell him.
Because you said he doesn't get haircuts and lineups and the way he was dressing.
Can't trust a black man with no lineup.
That don't mean nothing.
You can't trust a black man that don't get no line.
So you're going all the way to can't trust.
Listen, my third eye was wide open back then.
I knew something was off about LaRussell.
I seen it.
The second, a black man comes out in public and he has money.
He just chooses not to have a haircut.
Something's off.
And I found out my third eye was just seeing the future.
All jokes aside, I will say, still don't trust black men with that lineup.
But what I will say is, Listen to your engineer, dawg.
Like, listen, man.
If you know the dynamic about engineers in the studio, let me break it down to you.
Nobody gets shit on more than the engineer, right?
And engineers just trying to collect a paycheck and get home at a reasonable hour, which they never get to do right.
Shout out to all the engineers.
Never.
Not in hip hop.
People are yelling at them to tell them to do things they can't even describe how to do.
An engineer's never gonna stick his neck out and tell an artist that you're basically getting paid from.
Hey man, you know this song I've been here working on for a few hours.
You... you probably shouldn't do this.
No engineer's gonna do that.
If an engineer's doing that, he's trying to save you, brother.
You should've listened to him.
So the fact that you did listen to him, And you went out there.
That was wild, brother.
That was wild.
That was wild.
And I'm kind of glad you did it because it was funny that you did it.
But my bigger issue with it was not only was that a dumbass song, it was just stupid.
Like Donald Trump, Adolf Hitler, Jeffrey Epstein, what the fuck are you doing, my boy?
Malcolm X, Sam Warren, Luther King Jr.
Yeah.
Them, okay, cool.
I respect it.
But to double down, what we have learned is don't double down.
Don't double down, eject, abort mission.
Like you see how we're reacting.
Look, you can't beat the internet, man.
I've gone to war with the internet and I've lost.
I'm O for whatever, you know what I'm saying?
You don't want to do this.
When we've decided it's like the Jack Harlow thing that we've turned on you.
Ha ha, left y'all right, y'all got me move on.
We'll forget.
That's how the internet works.
You also just used the term wrong.
Well, I think that's the biggest piece.
You used the term did not mean what you were trying to say.
Like, it was just wrong.
And then, when people corrected you and gave you the vital definition, you still double down and try to be condescending to niggas like well, what do y'all do for the culture?
What do y'all do?
It's like, nigga, it's not about none of that.
So he sounded like an asshole and looked like a jackass and now he's off social media.
Well, so I think it's the fundamental rule of life.
Like you sound condescending as fuck.
I think it's the fundamental.
When you have to explain art or a joke or whatever and you're sitting around trying to explain it, I think that's when you've lost the whole kind of thing.
Yeah, you've lost the plot.
Because I think the outrage was really fueled by...
You know I have my own theories about like once he signed the Roc Nation and kind of like the algorithm's been.
You know it's been all of these like missteps, when it's like he's just being the same guy he's always been.
But now that he's on Roc Nation, there's a bigger spotlight.
And I do feel like there's an algorithm hunt for some individuals out there, especially when you align with Roc Nation or whatever, or you're on the wrong side of Drake fans, or whatever.
The algorithm's going to be trying to get you all the time.
But I do think to your point.
He's saying something was sent from heaven and I know what he was playing with.
That's not how people use that term.
And that's not how people play either.
But I think also that's why he did it, right?
And I think the other misstep and this was a big misstep if he would have never said My engineer made this whole presentation.
That was part of it.
My engineer told me not to release it.
Because that's where the joke started.
The joke started.
My engineer told me not to do this.
But that was just people, I don't know if they disliked the record at that point.
They were just like, nah, you should listen to your engineer.
That's just what people are going to do.
And then it spun into think pieces about Heaven, Sent and Epstein and Trump, and who's the devil and the evil and the fallen angels and the.
A quick apology, like, you're my fault.
Yo, you know what?
I misstepped.
I thought it was going to hit, but it didn't.
Y'all right.
My fault.
My bad.
Boom.
That's it.
Now, if you thought the beat was more fire because it was kind of like if the beat was like a blaze beat or something and that shit was like And ringing off
No.
Epstein, heaven sent.
No, no.
No, I'm telling you, some people, yo.
Some people won't think.
I wouldn't.
No, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
I think the Epstein thing, people is kind of out of line on it.
Like, they wouldn't have been able to get there in time.
He said Adolph, guys.
And Adolph, I think all of that.
No, all of that would have been a problem.
He said Adolph.
All of that would have been a problem, but I think people would have been more patient if that beat was really banging.
Nah, I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
You telling me if Just Blaze did that shit?
Nah, if that shit was like, Just Blaze.
Metro.
I think people would have been like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, you kind of spit.
Hold on, let him cook.
Let me know.
Let that shit drop.
Let it be dropped real quick.
I'm telling you, can't trust a brother with no haircut.
I'll go back.
He can't.
I knew something was on the way.
If the beat was knocking, would you like it?
Would you have chilled?
Like, wait, let him cook.
Hold on, hold on.
I mean, whatever.
He's on his side.
Whenever a new beat drops, my head goes up.
Well, I did have a problem, like, with real hip hop fans.
Like.
Look, you may not have liked the song talking about Adolph.
It's not like he bigged up Adolph.
It's not like he even tried to like... He kind of did, man.
No, he didn't.
But that's his frustration here.
I think...
He didn't, though.
And we've had way more egregious things said in hip-hop records that we call classics.
It's true, but also the timing of it couldn't have been worse.
We're in a war now that nobody wanted.
You still ain't got the files yet.
All that surrounding it.
You just thought that that would be a good... bookmarked for you.
No, but I'm just letting y'all know, look, yes, the times dictate our response to things.
All valid.
Right.
I just... You know what the funny part is?
Yeah.
One of the most famous guys in rap has been screaming he's a Nazi for the last three years and he just got a sold out show in LA.
There you go.
Like, And he has a song called How Hitler.
And he's about to drop an album.
His name's Kanye West.
Like I said, more egregious things have happened in hip hop.
We're not saying this is the most egregious thing.
We're not saying the nigga's going to be.
I'm just going back to my point, though.
If he had a fire beat.
Stop saying it.
And it was... And he hadn't... Just walk with me.
If the beat just came on, he'd said nothing about his engineer.
Yeah, the engineer thing... The engineer thing is gone.
Right.
The beat came on and that shit was fucking ringing.
And he started saying what he was saying.
We'd all been like...
But that beat, yo, that's...
And to be fair, I've seen it happen.
I'm just being honest.
I've seen it happen.
He might have been kicking in the verse.
He might have backed up.
It might have made perfect sense.
We never even got verses.
No.
Before we move on, can I just say that LaRussell was in the LA studios last week for a takeover.
That's right.
And it was probably one of the best takeovers we ever had.
Did you produce it?
Yeah.
But that's not why it was good.
No, no, no.
Bro really leaned in on his radio takeover.
Available right now on Apple Music.
Bro really leaned in.
Talk about it, Nick.
Go ahead.
Yeah, yeah.
He called his mom.
Yeah, just all the energy that he brought, man.
He brought that good energy that I think people started to love him for.
So with all things said, I just want to say, man, this guy.
To my point, if that beat would have been ringing.
Yo.
Yeah.
And he didn't have an engineer piece.
I think we'd be having it.
We might be like, yo, LaRussell was wilding on that record.
But that, yo, it's kind of fire, though.
Extreme is a Lil Jon album.
It's fire.
Something in the water.
It's fire.
That's all I'm saying.
All heaven sent.
That's all I'm saying.
All heaven sent.
All I'm saying.
Jay-Z.
Roots picnic, two shows at Yankee Stadium.
Beautiful.
Tickets just went on sale, too.
Nadeska, what's up?
Can I get a ticket to Nadeska?
No, it don't.
You gotta hit E. It don't.
Nah, you got the plug.
It does.
Help me out.
You're not telling me that when you're seeing these shows get announced, you think there's an album somewhere in the water.
I just said, does it mean?
I don't think it does.
Okay.
I think he's just celebrating, you know, Blueprint 25, RD30. two nights, several nights, monumental.
I think that's where it is.
We got the Roots picnic.
That's going to be phenomenal.
He did a backstage movie with the Roots, so you know what that's going to sound like.
But I'm not getting my hopes up, like I said before, for a new album.
I don't need it.
I don't want it.
I'm cool.
Don't want it.
Not don't want it, but I just don't need it.
I'm not going to go back and forth about this whole thing again.
No, I'm not.
I don't need it.
If I get it, I'll listen.
But these two shows are very, these two shows are very monumental to his career.
And I like how he's just doing them separately, where everybody can see what those albums sound like live and what those albums mean to him and his fans.
So perfect, perfect, perfect rollout.
I'm sure you could call in a favorite.
Yeah, come on.
Ain't no favors.
I'm buying tickets, man.
And when I get in the building though, that's when I get to finessing though.
Try and get me a wristband or two.
You know what I mean?
You about to buy the cheap seats and work your way down.
I just need to get in the building.
As long as I'm in the building, I can make some shit shake.
As long as I'm in the building, we'll figure this shit out.
Exactly.
We'll figure it out.
So which one y'all want, Reasonable Doubt or Blueprint?
I'm going to both.
I might be at Roots Picnic, Reasonable Doubt, and Blueprint.
I'm trying to figure this out.
I need a babysitter.
I want Reasonable Doubt.
If I have a gun to my head, I'm going to Reasonable Doubt.
Yeah, I've never seen him do that live.
It would be Reasonable Doubt for sure.
Man, fuck what y'all talking about.
Blueprint.
You know what I'm saying?
You feel me?
If I had a choice.
Come on, dawg.
I thought I had to choose.
Didn't have to be that aggressive.
Like, fuck y'all niggas.
Yo, Chance won $35.
Victory.
Victory.
It was the principal.
That's it.
Victory.
Did you guys follow this?
Pat, his manager, had a lawsuit against Chance trying to say Chance owed him $3.8 million.
And Chance ended up winning and was actually awarded himself.
$35.
$35.
Was that like a court fee or?
I don't know what that $35 represents, sir.
Man, you gotta beat his ass, bro.
Despite Chance beating the lawsuit, jurors only awarded him $35 in his countersuit.
So I guess Chance had a countersuit.
For $35?
Out of the $1 million that Chance was trying to get. so he can't shoot him for 35.
You know how precious my time is?
I'd be mad as a motherfucker if I had to go to court every day to win $35.
But you did not lose 3.8.
But it's a Prince.
Now I wasted all this time.
I don't even get my million.
I don't got to pay the 3.8, which is cool.
But I got that 35.
But I also feel justified.
You probably didn't even deserve the 3.8, so you just wasted my time anyway.
And all I got was $35?
You had to probably pay more to park.
I got to fuck you up for that.
Like, for real.
It might not even be me.
The internets were talking about Pat, his manager.
I think is a part of the big real estate family, the Corcoran Group or something like that.
So they just sold their business for like $900 million.
That's not his money.
That's his family's money.
So it's not like he's hurting for money.
So Pat, his manager, I think is going to be all right, too.
He'll be all right, for sure.
At 35, everybody's going to be all right.
I think we're missing something.
Nadeska had a huge week last week.
Nadeska sat down with J. Cole.
Mm-hmm.
You went to North Carolina?
Yeah, yeah, I went to Fayetteville.
I mean, I think for all of us who've been listening to Cole for a long time, Fayetteville is, of course, such a big part of the story.
So it was nice being able to go to Forest Hills Drive like see the childhood home and sit down for the interview there.
So here's a little clip.
But when that shit happened and I did what I did on the dream real stage and the world was fucking me up, it was the biggest blessing I could have received.
No bullshit because it led me to this conversation with myself right here where I was like, oh shit.
Like, nigga, that's how you want to go out?
Like, you want to drop the fall off?
You've been working on this bitch eight years.
You want to go out feeling like, ah, man, just get this shit out and just ride off?
Like, I don't give a fuck how fire the album is.
That's how you want to feel about it?
You want to feel tapped out and you can't write another verse?
And I was like, fuck no, I don't want to feel like that.
I was like, well, how do you want to feel?
Well, shit.
When I put out the fall off, I want to feel fucking inspired.
Like I can go do three more albums.
Like I don't want to, I hate how I feel right now.
Like this shit whack.
Like I don't want to be like talking about the album like this or like feeling like I ain't got shit to say.
All right then.
Can you control that?
Oh yeah, I can control that.
Oh, you've been here many times before, right?
Yeah, I have been in a space many times where I've had to like light my flame back and fall back in love with this shit.
All right, so you know what to do.
Yeah, I do know what to do, but this time you got to do it a little different.
Like don't do exactly what you did before.
So that conversation was such a realization for me and it set me on a mission of like falling back in love with this.
And so too, i know i'm answering like four questions ago because i i was i'm with you, taking a roundabout way to get here.
But the reason why i became a double album is because i fell back in love with this and my pen got on fire.
Like over the course of the next few months it's like i just became obsessed with the.
I felt like i was 16 years old and really what it came down to was spending time with this thing that I love.
Now, had you ever been down to Fayetteville before?
I hadn't.
Very first time.
Very first time.
And it was a lot going on that day.
It was like a tornado warning.
Flights were canceled.
We were driving through like a rainstorm.
Yo, it felt like there was a lot happening that day.
So I'm glad we even got to Fayetteville to make the interview happen.
And of course, like, Cole was super gracious about it.
And like we were talking about him being very relatable Eddie in the music, like in person, he's just such a regular dude, like a such a regular guy.
Like we were having a little life talk about juggling kids and career and everything.
He was talking to me about meditating like he just is who he seems like he is.
So it was like nice to be able to talk to him about the project.
So that was him talking about.
Wyatt ended up being a double disc, and so long, because a lot of people complained about that.
But him saying that apology just got him re-inspired and, you know, made it to a problem.
I'm just happy for J. Cole, man.
Yeah.
That's it.
I'm just happy.
Dope album, dope records.
It looks happy, too.
Sounds happy.
Dope rollout.
Yeah.
You know, and it was a great interview.
Yeah, you know, I got to really really, you know, tip my hat to you because, you know, just doing that interview, knowing how much you care about the product and the craft and watching everybody respond so positively to you,
I know you don't really like doing the internet shit, but you were everywhere and I just gotta give you your grace.
You killed it.
Thank you, Will.
I appreciate you.
Yeah, it was definitely a nice moment, and I love that he's about to do the cam interview.
That'll be out, I think, by the time this drops, so that's gonna be really funny.
So I feel like people who didn't get what they feel like they needed from my interview.
They're gonna get over that.
You're gonna get it from the Cam interview.
There's a lot of balance out here, so don't come for me and just... Wait, wait, wait.
You know how people are, E. You know how people are.
They want her to push back on certain answers.
They want her to ask certain salacious shit.
But what was to push back on?
That's not her style.
The pushback is ignorance.
I don't...
That's how I look.
I watched some of the comments.
I watched some of the slick shit.
Listen, bro, it's the internet, man.
There's always going to be someone who has differing opinion, but the consensus is she did a great job.
That's all it is.
Who cares?
If that's what you want, maybe you'll get it with Cam.
And shout out to our girl Nadeska doing her journalistic thing.
And then I also got to ask you, as someone who is a legit J Cole fan, How surreal is it to be in these places?
He names.
You went to Forest Hill Drive.
You went to Fayetteville.
How surreal or weird is it for you to be coming from a fan perspective, to actually be in these spaces that you've heard so much about?
Yeah, you know, maybe that's the thing.
Some people felt like it was too much from a fan perspective, but I'm a fan of a lot of the artists that we talk about, so it would be no different.
But And also don't lose that, by the way
Fuck them.
Like, we should be fans.
Thank you.
It keeps me motivated.
See, it's not me this week.
It's...
No, she just said that.
What are you talking about?
She literally just said that people say, like, she's a fan.
And it comes from a fan's perspective.
I say that.
You say what?
She's president of the J. Cole fan club.
We've been running that joke.
That's not a joke, though.
I mean, now she's the president.
She went down to the house.
Okay.
The rest of y'all just fans and customers.
Oh, no, not again.
At the house.
Insanity.
So what was it like?
What's that like?
No, no, Eddie was nuts.
So I was, like he mentioned, he was running late.
I was getting my makeup finished and just fucking pacing nervously because y'all know me.
Of course, I was like a little bit stressed.
A little bit.
And then he pops up behind me like, this is my bedroom.
This is like the room I slept in as a kid.
You could see the posters on the wall and the back album cover.
This is where my bed was.
And I was, that to me was like absolutely nuts to be in that space.
Cause he said that spaces are sacred to him.
So yeah, it completely was surreal.
So wait a minute, who keeps his house together?
That's my question.
Who lives there?
The team.
Did he buy it?
No, no, no.
So he was saying he goes there when he needs like a moment to clear his mind and focus sometimes.
So I don't think anybody's actually living in there at the moment, but like Who makes sure that their lawn is mowed?
He has a team.
I'm sure Cole has a team who takes care of it.
I just want to meet them.
Is it a museum now?
I want to talk to the neighbors.
They should actually make it a museum.
That would make a lot of sense.
Do y'all get to go on free tours?
Do kids from the local schools go by?
People come by and sign the gate.
Like, this is the biggest thing going on in the family, right?
Yeah.
He said people literally stop by.
Like, if they're on a road trip, they'll stop by and come sign the gate up front.
They'll leave letters.
I believe so.
Because who are you going to sell that to now?
Because then whoever would buy that, then there'd be kids showing up to sign your gate in the future.
But not only that, but all the stuff in there would be down.
If he didn't own it, it wouldn't have been taken care of.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
And the other thing, and Eddie, you know this as a homeowner, and Jessica you too, and Nick, I don't know if you're on the house, Lo whatever.
You gotta keep the heat on.
You gotta make sure the water, you know what I mean?
There's certain house things you gotta do.
The maintenance.
So to her point, she has a team.
I did not ask Cole who he's maintaining, but I feel like his team.
Because that's interesting to me now, because we got the President J. Cole fan club here.
Can you stop?
This is why people stop.
See, he calls me OVO Lo.
He calls you the President J. Cole fan club.
Nah, bro.
Listen.
No, listen.
This is Nadeska.
I'm going to tell you something.
I don't know what people were saying.
I ain't in tune and all that negative shit.
That shit was fucking phenomenal.
That's just a fucking artist that you fucking love.
Like, what the fuck are we, why are we playing coy?
Like, yo, you fucking, yeah, man.
You did that shit, bro.
Like, fuck all that shit, bro.
I didn't even see all this shit they talking.
What do they want, bro?
You sitting with J. Cole and all this fucking shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, One of the biggest rappers in the game.
What are we talking about?
I get defensive when niggas talk shit about her.
But honestly, that also pisses me off.
Don't do that.
I'm going to tell you that also pisses me off.
I don't care what people say about you.
You're okay in my book.
Don't do that.
No, that pisses me off too, man.
What?
People acting like Nadeska ain't been doing this shit for like mad years.
No one's saying that.
All her shit's been fire, bro.
No one's saying that.
No, I know, but it's like, oh, Nadeska, you did such a good job.
Fuck it, of course, B. She on this couch working with us.
She's shit.
Thanks, E. You know what I'm saying?
She fucking sat with Rihanna, B. What are you talking about?
J. Cole, too.
What are you talking about?
Write some other names.
Give us all the names.
She sat with you and Kendrick.
She sat with you and Kendrick.
Baby Keem.
Kendrick Lamar.
She sat with Baby Keem.
Keem.
Keem didn't talk to nobody.
He wanted to talk to her.
Keem didn't even talk to Apple.
He just talked in the desktop.
Exactly.
Fuck, I'm talking about, Eddie.
All this fucking acting like Nadeska ain't doing, been doing this, bro.
It should be tightening me up.
Been doing it.
Been tightening me up.
Been doing it.
That's why I said I love that she got your love.
Damn, thanks, y'all.
Check out my new YouTube channel.
You can watch the baby team interview and subscribe.
You can give me some likes, some love in the comments.
Thank you, E. I'm going to use this for the promo.
Nah, man.
She be tidying me up.
Yo, Nadeska did such a great job.
And I know they're saying it like bigging you up, but there's a part of me that makes it feel like you don't like people don't know you, or something.
They ain't been watching you for fucking, how long you been doing this?
20 years?
A long time.
But you feel me?
It's like, yo, you did such a great job.
Like, yeah.
Yeah.
I wish I could be this proud of myself.
Nah, yeah, man.
Yeah.
I think you did phenomenal.
I think you did phenomenal.
Yeah.
I was posting all your clips.
Fuck out of here, bro.
I love y'all.
Thank you.
Seriously, I love y'all.
I feel like I went on a long field trip.
I'm back now.
Take my sweater off.
I was trying to wear, like, my conservative look today.
Nah, don't take the sweater off.
It looks good.
It looks nice.
Yo, Nick, man, tighten us up, man.
What you got, man?
Tighten me up, bro.
What we doing?
Just a couple things we didn't get to.
Afro Man won a defamation lawsuit.
Yeah, Afro Man.
Filed by an Ohio County sheriff.
Yo, shout out to Afro Man.
You know what I'm saying?
A win for First Amendment rights everywhere across the country, man.
Shout out to Afro Man.
Took out the police.
Yeah.
Some music we didn't get a chance to get to, guys.
Lotto not only announced her pregnancy, but she announced a new album with two songs.
Business and Personal was one of them.
Somebody was the other one.
Two great songs from her.
No, wait, hold up on that.
Y'all listen to the Lotto?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Now that lotto's fire, bro.
Both records are fire.
Great job.
The second half of Business and Personal is like some of the best rapping I've heard so far this year.
Like, that's crazy.
Skillababy and 42Doug dropped the track.
Now this is Skillababy's first solo release, like first official release of his own since the attempt on his life last year.
So we're kind of getting ready to watch him come back in full form.
And he's got 42Doug with him, who they just collabed with on Thick One.
So it was interesting to hear him go from the club on Thick One to drilling shit.
You know what I'm saying on this new one right here.
So that's a good one.
Boss Man D'Lo is back.
Yo, Boss Man D'Lo got a hit right now.
That's that Motion record, right?
Motion Party is the name of the record.
What sample is that?
It's called My Neck, My Back.
Yeah, that's what it is.
And I don't know if it's too early to start the conversation, but it's Song of the Summer.
It's giving summertime.
It's April. too early.
It's April.
No, no, no, but it's giving it might go in that direction.
Yo, I got two for that direction right now.
I want to put that Juvenile, Megan Thee Stallion, BBB, and that Boss Man D-Lo.
I think them things need to keep moving around.
And the Baby Pop that thing.
Oh, pop that thing.
Yeah, that's a smoker.
That's a smoker.
Okay.
Yeah.
Koi Larray and Youngboy dropped the track Better Than Yours, which is a Khalees flip, right?
So we've been hearing a lot of things get re-entered into the conversation along with the 6WA project.
So that was, I don't know if y'all had a chance to hear that.
No, I did.
I played the Koi Larray.
She kept popping shit on there.
It's good.
It's good.
And another thing, which this isn't necessarily what we missed, but a kind of a conversation I wanted to hear you guys' thoughts on does seem like LaRussell has fallen into this situation that Chance the Rapper and both Russ fell into with these independent rappers.
You know, as soon as they kind of I feel like get on their high horse or, you know, are confident in what they built themselves,
Here comes like the internet to tear them down in several ways.
So it does in a way kind of feel like he's gone down that path as well as an independent artist.
I get the embodiment of that and there is an algorithm that wants to go against them for whatever they stand for.
But I think LaRussell leaned into it because he saw it coming.
I think he leaned into trying to be the independent bad guy, whatever you want to call it.
I think look, LaRussell misplayed it, because once you offend people, especially when you're talking about religion and these other things or you know these sensitive topics, and you see people are offended right, like they're not getting what you're saying, you immediately are supposed to say you know what, my bad, that didn't land right, like i was trying to do something and it just didn't go right.
I didn't mean to offend nobody, because i was.
I think what the russell saw was a real blowback on people being triggered.
You're talking about Hitler and Epstein and Malcolm X and MLK and the same thought that, like sent people to bad places.
That's offended, right?
What you're saying, Nick, is these independent artists getting on their high horse.
I think Chance, And this is my belief.
I believe because he wasn't with that manager, no more.
I feel like that was a fabricated campaign against Chance and people pack mentality, that and he was moving around in these larger circles and all of the things you say like high horse.
But I never saw Chance talk down to his audience.
Did he ever do anything where he talked down to his audience?
Not that I can recall.
But he kind of did the opposite thing, which I think LaRussell's thing has been the chance thing where it's been all positivity up until this point.
That's what I wanted to get to.
Those artists, maybe Russ on a different kind of way, they're easy to label corny.
And the worst thing you can be in rap is corny.
Like it goes back to like when they were trying to get MC Hammer out the paint, and like the issues that they would have were like de la soul, even though they made their way through it.
Like people love- just to criticize rappers when they have a positive message.
And if you come across overly positive in a space that can be kind of negative, you come across as corny and people want to get you.
Like we made fun of Chance for loving his wife out loud.
And also it was a bad album.
Like we can't forget that part.
The album was ass.
I honestly, look, I'm not the biggest Chance fan.
I mean, album listener.
I wasn't there.
I'm older.
And I really like this most current album.
But when I listened to that album and I actually went back and listened to it before I talked to him last time I was like it wasn't that bad.
Y'all tripping.
It was just confusing as someone who was listening to the previous the tapes and the albums before.
It was not to come from like a negative place.
I feel like I would say this to him as well.
It's just that like I fell in love with Chance doing acid and dancing in the rain.
Like that was like a different kind of thing from it suddenly feeling more A, I guess, more religious, and then the whole album being about love and marriage.
And I'm all about love and marriage, but I will say as a fan, it was a little bit of a left turn.
You didn't want that from him.
Not that I didn't want it, but I didn't expect the whole album to end up being like that.
I feel like I wanted some of the essence of the original chants.
But I'm not against anybody growing, so if that's what he wanted to do for the project, I get it.
So I think that's what Eddie and Nick are trying to explain.
Maybe that's what his fans were saying, is that it's bad.
I was listening to it for musicality, bars, and songs.
I wasn't listening to it with that lens.
But with the LaRusso, I'm going to say it again.
Now that he's on Roc Nation, now that he's not as independent and DIY as he was before because he's got affiliations and was at the Super Bowl and things like that.
I do believe that when artists to your point, Nick make this jump right, call it a crossover, call it more mainstream, whatever in this day and age, I do believe that there is a faction of internet folks that are like yeah, nah.
That's always gonna be a prominent thing, but I think, just with this specific incident, that this was really just based off of a bad decision.
Yeah.
Like, just a really, really bad decision.
And the blowback of... Your reception to the blowback was really fucked up, too.
Gotta get a haircut.
He's stuck with the lineup.
Yeah, he's still there.
Well, this note from LaRussell.
Good morning, America.
This is my final statement on this bullshit.
Good morning, America.
The selective outrage and fake righteousness is a joke.
It's always us.
Y'all been complicit in supporting serial killers murderers, drug dealers, pimps and niggas destroying their community for years.
But me saying God made me and he also made these sick-ass niggas is where the line is drawn?
Cut it out.
If you're going to be outraged, be outraged about it all.
Hey, what niggas do that?
Turn the murder music off and every other detrimental form of art you consume.
I'm one of the few niggas in this shit smiling and putting good into the ecosystem.
I'm going to keep saying and doing what I want with my art because I'm a fucking artist.
Y'all can keep being fake outrage and complicit with everything else.
Damn.
And that's the part where, at the close, he could have said look man, I understand people didn't get it.
I'm just, I was trying to give some insight.
Sometimes you do have to retreat when you trigger folks.
I hate when they try to point at all the other shit.
That's wrong.
When you got called out on the bullshit that you did wrong.
Like, shut the fuck up with that shit.
Some of that murder music is cracky, too.
Listen, I told y'all, that's why I said, yo, if he had that beat, we're slumping.
You know what I'm saying?
And he came in with like, you know what I'm saying?
I love drug dealing in music.
I love toxic masculinity in music.
But saying that Epstein, MLK, and Malcolm X and Trump is all from the same God.
I don't like that in music.
No.
He used the term wrong and just couldn't own up to it.
That is the biggest, the most smallest fabric of all of this.
That's all it is.
And unfortunately that term, people never use it literally.
He used it literally.
And that's not how you use it.
Well, and that, you know, once again, once you start explaining art, that's when you lost.
Right.
And that's it.
And that's it.
So, Nadeska, what's your favorite Jack Harlow nickname?
Come on, man.
Nadeska Lo and Nadeska Ebro Rap Life Review, man.
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