From the brains behind Brains On, it's Smash Boom Best. The show for people with big opinions.
Hi, I'm Molly Bloom, and this is Smash Boom Best, the show where we take two things, smash them together, and ask you to decide which one is best. Today's debate throws two timeless tales into the ring for a clash of the classics.
It's Jack and the Beanstalk versus the ugly duckling.
We have author and grim grimmer grimaced podcast host Adam Gidwitz here to climb to the top for team Jack and the Beanstalk.
Jack and the Beanstalk climbing to the sky!
And author of the school for Good and Evil series Somin Chainani is here to help team ugly duckling soar above the rest. Ugly is the new bridge.
And here to judge it all is Hugo from Plymouth Minnesota.
Hugo loves to have spirited discussions with his family around the Dinner Table is a huge Olivia Rodrigo fan and enjoys acting in plays and musicals.
Hi Hugo. Hi there. We're so happy you're back.
So, Hugo, what kind of debates have you gotten into with your family?
A lot of times it's just about minor disagreements that we'll have with each other.
You know, like, who should or should not be doing chores and stuff like that.
But most of the time it gets solved by my dad.
So when you're debating are there like tactics you find yourself taking to try to come out on top of those disagreements?
Sometimes I like to just kind of push a lot of the blame onto my brother because he's the oldest so he should be doing a lot more than I should.
And what do you love about Olivia Rodrigo?
I love her music because it's very relatable and it's just very me and she represents a lot of teenagers and I just feel like very much that right now in my life.
So what's your favorite jam to sing along to?
I love her song favorite crime.
That's my favorite song of hers.
So good. And what is the most fun character you've played lately?
What'd you say? I recently played a Newsie in Newsies and that was really, really fun to do.
And it was just really cool.
And like, there was a lot of energy and stuff like that in it.
And it was really exciting to do that show.
So do you have any advice for our debaters today?
I would say definitely make me laugh.
I love a good joke.
I love a good story.
And yeah, just have fun.
Will Hugo side with Adam?
Or Soman. Only time will tell.
But first, here are the rules of the game.
Every debate consists of four rounds, the Declaration of Greatness, the Micro Round, the Sneak Attack, and the Final Six.
After each round, our judge, Hugo, will award points to the team that impresses him the most. But he'll keep his decisions top secret until end of the debate.
Listeners, we want you to judge too.
Mark down your points as you listen.
At the end of the show, head to our website, Smashboom .org, and vote for whichever team you think won.
Adam, Soman, and Hugo, are you ready?
Yes. I'm so ready. Let's do it!
Then it's time for the Declaration of Greatness.
In this round, our debaters will present a well -crafted, immersive argument in favor Then they'll each have 30 seconds to rebut their opponent's statements.
We flipped a coin, and, Adam, you're up first. Tell us what makes Jack and the Beanstalk such a towering tale.
You probably remember the story of Jack and the Beanstalk, right?
Jack sells his cow for beans.
His mom throws him out the window.
A giant Beanstalk goes to the sky.
Jack climbs up three times.
But, trust me, you've probably always heard the cute, boring retellings of the story.
you know, the ones meant for little kids.
The real Jack and the Beanstalk is actually a pulse -pounding, shock -inducing thrill fest. Take the giant's famous line.
Fee fi fo fum, I smell the blood of an Englishman.
Do you remember the rest of it?
Be he alive, or be he dead, I'll grind his bones to make my bread!
What? The giant is gonna take Jack's bones out of his body and then grind them into flour to make bread, bone flour bread?
And the giant isn't exaggerating either because later, his wife makes an off -hand comment about how he likes eating little boys on toast, which is disgusting and awesome.
So the story is freaky.
Also, it is legit funny.
So after the giant does his thing, Fee -fi -foe -fum.
I smell the blood of an Englishman.
His wife says, There you go again with your fee, five, ho, fum.
Why, of course it's the boy you caught last night that I've just broiled for your breakfast. How careless you are not to know the difference between live little boys and dead little boys.
But it's not just freaky and funny.
If you tell it right, it's a straight up thrill fest. Allow me.
On Jack's third trip up the beanstalk, the giant is certain that he smells the boy somewhere.
He starts searching all over the house, but he didn't think to look in the bath tub so Jack is able to sneak away with the golden harp he'd taken.
Help, help, he's stealing me!
Jack had no idea that this harp could talk.
The giant comes charging out of the house after Jack and Jack has to weave and dodge until he gets to the beanstalk.
Then he starts climbing down, and at first the giant is too scared to go after him because the Beanstalk doesn't look sturdy.
But then... Help, help, Master, come get me.
...the giant swings himself down onto the Beanstalk, and it shakes so badly, Jack nearly falls off.
And now the giant is coming after him, faster and faster, closer and closer, until...
So I'm not gonna tell you anymore, but that's one heck of a cliffhanger or is it a stock hanger?
Aside from being a better story, Jack and the Beanstalk also has a better life lesson.
Hang with me because we're about to get personal.
When I was in middle school, I was a fool.
I was always goofing off in class, trying to impress the cool kids.
It never worked. Often, it ended with me in the principal's office.
Once it ended up with the cool kids getting the whole class to point at me and chant, Poser, Poser, Poser, Which was 90s slang that meant I was a follower.
That I didn't know who I was.
That moment sent me on a journey.
I fell in with some real troublemakers and I got in more trouble.
And then I decided to have no friends at all.
And so I was alone.
Finally, in ninth grade, I met two guys who weren't cool and who weren't troublemakers, they were smart and nice, and we became friends.
Jesse and Ryan are still two of my best friends to this day.
Jesse and I even created the book series, The Unicorn Rescue Society together.
So you might think that fairytales are supposed to have a moral to teach you a lesson, like.
Don't judge a book by its cover.
Or. Don't tell wolves where your grandma lives.
lives. But moral lessons like that don't really help you through tough times.
No one wants to be preached at.
The best fairy tales, like Jack and the Beanstalk, aren't moral tales.
They are tales that give you strength.
Jack wasn't perfect, none of us are.
He made terrible decisions, like I did.
He traded his cow for beans and he let his mother down, but that wasn't the end of his story.
It was the beginning.
It led to an incredible adventure full of wonder and laughter and mortal terror.
And he came out the other side braver and stronger and wiser.
The best fairytales, like Jack and the Beanstalk, give us faith that we can grow up to be better than we are.
And that growing up is going to be one heck of an adventure.
Oh, Adam making me have some fee fi fo feelings.
Oh my goodness. Hugo, what stood out to you about Adam's declaration of greatness?
I loved the point that he made about it being a thrill fest, because I am definitely an avid horror movie fan.
So that definitely caught my attention.
And I loved how exciting and high stakes it was.
But then it wrapped up with a nice message about the fact that you can make mistakes and it's still okay.
Okay, Stoneman, it is time for your rebuttal.
Tell us why Jack and the Beanstalk just can't walk the walk.
You've got 30 seconds, and your time starts now.
First of all, all this is irrelevant because Adam can't even name a Leila via Rodrigo song let alone been to a concert three times like I have. How did you know that?
Second of all, I mean, it's nice to hear his sad self -esteem story.
But, the thing about Jack is when Jack sold the cow that was responsible for saving his starving family from magic beans, that's basically the end of the story.
His family has now died.
This is encouraging children to essentially, you know, do the absolute max - Yeah.
He made a foolish mistake, absolutely.
But then what happened after that?
He had an adventure.
And isn't really that the point of life?
Well, it's up for our Judge Hugo to decide, so let's hear now from Somen.
Tell us why the ugly duckling is a triumph against all odds.
Let's imagine a scenario.
You left your fairytale book report until the last minute, and you have ten minutes at study hall to whip something up.
You fire up Old Faithful, AKA Wikipedia, to skim the readings.
First, there's Jack and the Beanstalk, which has a summary the size of Spain and a maze of fourteen other subcategories you're afraid to expand.
Second, there's the Ugly Duckling with a summary that's three paragraphs, so short, crisp and clean it feels like a Japanese zen garden.
Beginning, middle, end.
Which fairy tale do you pick?
To refresh your memory, the Ugly Duckling goes like this.
a bunch of duck eggs hatch, and the cute little ducklings go quack, quack, quack.
Mother duck is super happy with her eggs, when, CRACK, the last one explodes and out comes this floofy ragged mess.
The ugly duckling. Hey everyone, sorry I'm late.
The ugly duckling does his best to fit in, but every duck in the duck yard doesn't want him in their lunch posse.
Relatable. Uh, hi guys, wanna quack together?
Go away! We're into waddling!
We only care about waddling!
And so our hero, Uggo Ducko, grows up tragically alone and misunderstood, until one day, after waking up from a long winter, he sees in the pond's reflection that he's grown into a majestic swan.
He was never a duck.
He was meant for bigger, more beautiful things.
He joins his fellow swans flying into the sunset to live happily ever after.
Short and sweet. Unlike Jack and the Beanstalk, which drags on with all its beanstalk climbing, giant chasing, golden gooses, and unnecessary subplots, the Ugly Duck's spike from Zero to Hero happened so fast, you could drop it on TikTok.
And if TikTok has taught us anything, it's that simple works.
That's not the only reason Uggyducko beats Jack though.
The story behind the Ugly Duckling is way cooler too, and it involves secret royal blood.
Hans Christian Andersen, the author of Duckling, was born in Denmark in 1805.
He grew up feeling ugly and awkward like the duckling in his story.
With distinct facial features, a lone spirit, and a love of stories, he got bullied and teased by the other kids.
Hi, guys. You want to hear a story I just wrote?
Ugh. Go away. We're playing marbles.
We only care about marbles.
The joke though was on the bullies.
Because, like the ugly duckling, many historians think Hans had a secret identity.
There's evidence that suggests he was actually a secret son of Denmark's future King, Christian VIII.
And like the duckling, Hans would one day soar above his haters.
He went on to write some of the most famous fairy tales ever, like The Ugly Duckling, The Little Mermaid, and The Snow Queen, which the movie Frozen is based on.
Basically, he was the Taylor Swift of fairy tales, turning his pain into power and also earning millions of dollars for Disney along the way.
And speaking of Disney, ugly duckling is number one for another reason.
Clear moral lessons.
Nowadays, we need guidance more than ever and the ugly duckling delivers.
It tells us good things take time, that we all have beauty inside us and you should not judge a book by its cover.
These are all timeless, universal lessons that form the foundations of human society.
Jack meanwhile teaches you it's fun and okay to disobey your parents and break into people's homes and steal their stuff.
But I digress because you have a book report too.
Quick, everyone is walking into class.
What's your report gonna be on?
The short and sweet masterpiece by the guy who wrote Frozen or some morally dubious yawningly long tale about a kid who puts his faith in some magic beans?
If you want that A, I can tell you kid those beans are not the answer.
A beautiful argument there for the ugly duckling.
Hugo, what stood out to you about Soman's Declaration of Greatness?
Well, I obviously love the sentiment that going from being alone to kind of growing into your inner beauty is very nice.
And I also thought it was very interesting that the one of the main morals of the story is that good things take time, but also that fairy tales should be kept short.
Very good point. All right, Adam, it is time for your rebuttal.
Tell us why the ugly duckling leaves you unimpressed.
You have 30 seconds and your time starts now.
Well, I really agree with Hugo.
It would be really nice if the moral of the story was about inner beauty.
Unfortunately, that isn't the moral of the story.
The moral of the story is, you're ugly now, but don't worry, you'll be beautiful later.
But what if you aren't?
Or even, who cares about what you look like?
What about what's inside of you that matters?
Are you smart, are you interesting, are you kind?" And all of this is kind of proven by the fact that when Hans Christian Andersen did grow up, he was actually one of the most desperate followers in Denmark.
And time. Oof, cliffhanger there.
Yeah, I know. I wish I had a clock in front of me so I knew my 30 seconds.
I'm gonna stop. I mean, I think the thing that he's missing is what it's like to be a teenage boy nowadays, like Hugo, where you are suffering in silence for a very long time, waiting for your swan years, And the truth is if they don't come quickly, it's okay.
You can find a dermatologist just in time to become a swan.
I just have to react to say that Soman's obvious pandering to the teenage audience between the Taylor Swift references and TikTok, and pointing out that I've never heard an Olivia Rodrigo song, is really the lowest common denominator.
You can do better. I just wanted to say, who says I'm not in my swañas?
There you go, that's right Zalman, underestimating Hugo here.
Alright Hugo, it's time to award some points for this round.
Please give one point to the declaration of greatness that you like best and one point to the rebuttal that won you over.
You get to decide what makes a winning argument.
Did one team's jokes make you giggle?
Was another team's logic impeccable?
of what your points but don't tell us who they're going to.
Have you made your decision?
Yes. Wonderful, Soman and Adam, how are you two feeling so far?
This is playing out exactly like I imagined.
Adam is trying to do the assignment and I'm doing everything to cheat and undercut.
Hahaha. I knew it was going to happen like this.
I knew you were going to do this to me.
Oh, we're going to have a quick break.
Water your magic beans and smooth your feathers.
And we'll be right back with more Smash Boom Bats.
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A logical fallacy is a debate doozy that makes your argument weaker.
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Chocolate isn't good for dogs because it can make them sick.
No chocolate for you Mr. Fiddlesticks.
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It makes them happy, so they should get a lot of it!
Here you go little buddy!
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There are lots of veterinarians who will tell you chocolate is bad for dogs.
They should never have any.
Full stop! You say dogs can't have any chocolate?
I say they should have a lot.
How about we meet in the middle and agree dogs can have a little chocolate?
That seems reasonable, right?
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Or which movie you should watch with your friends.
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Take a listen to this delicious debate idea from Sebastian.
Hi, my name is Sebastian and I'm from Manchester, Vermont.
My debate is sushi versus ramen.
Don't make me choose.
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And now it's back to our debate.
Jack and the Beanstalk vs the Ugly Duckling That's right, and it's time for round 2, the...
Micro round For the micro round challenge, each team has prepared a creative response to a prompt they received in advance.
For Adam and Soman, the prompt was...
Cribs, where each debater has to give us a tour of their character's home.
Adam went first last time, so Soman you're up.
Give us a tour inspired by the Ugly Duckling!
Good morning, let me start by saying it's an honor to finally be on the show.
I'm the Swan formerly known as the ugly duckling.
I'm known for my inner beauty, of course.
But ever since I moved to Beverly Hills, I've been trying to make the rest of my life as beautiful as my famously pure soul.
Starting with my home.
Welcome to Villa Swan.
We wanted to pay homage to old quaint little pond.
We dug it up and put it into the foyer of my new chateau!
A lovely reminder of how small my life used to be.
No? If you can't swim, feel free to ride on one of our rubber duck pool floats!
They're all the rage at my A -list parties.
Notice the gallery on your left. Giant before and after portraits of me, pre -swan, and post -swan to remind everyone who visits that they too can go from a zero to a ten.
Or at least a two to a three.
Off the record, you'd be shocked how some people show up looking.
You'd think they'd never looked in a mirror.
Or at least never saw the reflection in a crystal clear pool of water.
Speaking of water, let's take the water slide down to the gym.
Hope I didn't get your camera wet.
Yes. Repossessed? They can't evict me.
I'm like a duck version of Chapel Rowan.
Just ask the camera crew filming me right now.
They're on their way?
With the demolition crews?
Oh dear. I totally forgot.
I'm late for a facial.
Gotta keep my feathers smooth.
Was not expecting that twist at the end.
Good storytelling. All right, Adam, it is your turn.
Show us around a home inspired by Jack and the Beanstalk.
Welcome to this edition of Fairy Tale Cribs, where we see the homes of the famous fairy tale characters.
I'm your host, the Fairy Godmother, and we're here today with Jack, from the beloved tale Jack and the Beanstalk.
Jack, how are you today?
Could you keep your voice down a little?
Honey, how about you speak up a little?
I think everyone wants to hear from you.
Tell us about your beautiful and, well, a fairly large home.
It's not my home. That's why we have to whisper.
Who's home is it? It belongs to that giant over there eating three whole oxen for breakfast. Also to his wife.
She's okay. He's eating three oxen like whole cows for breakfast?
Yeah, I think his wife fried them up like bacon.
You should see the size of his fork.
Of course, he's not using his fork.
His table manners are pretty disgusting.
Wait, but he can't see you?
No, I'm hiding in the bathtub.
And are you holding a goose?
Moo! Yeah, it lays golden eggs.
Cool, right? Fee, fie, foe, fum, I smell the blood of an Englishman.
Aw, crud, not again.
Are you OK, Jack? Not really.
Got to go. A sneaky home tour.
I love it. All right, Hugo, what did you like about Adam and Somen's micro rounds?
Um, well, I really liked that the ugly duckling is onto, you know, bigger better things that he's kind of moving up in the world.
But he is still remembering his roots and that he was once ugly.
And I thought it was funny that Jack has kind of turned into a bit of freeloader, you know, like, kind of house squatting, if you will.
But he's making it work.
He's doing his best. Absolutely.
Well, Hugo, it is time to award a point for this micro round, the criteria are totally subjective and totally up to you.
Have you made your decision?
Yes. And it's time for our third round, the super stealthy sneak attack.
This is our improvised round where debaters have to respond to a challenge on the spot.
Today's sneak attack is called Too Nice to Handle.
It's a good old -fashioned compliment off.
Debaters get the chance to give three compliments to the other side.
The debater, or the topic, who has the sweeter words, the kookiest compliments, the awesomest accolades.
We're gonna start with Adam.
Let's here your first compliment for the ugly duckling.
Well, it's really a compliment for Soman.
Soman is an incredible author of books that take the dark side of fairytales, and he has really shown us the dark side of the ugly duckling, how the ugly duckling really grew up to be a totally vain swan who's obsessed with his own appearance.
So I was really impressed with that.
All right, Soman, it is your turn.
Let's hear your first compliment for Jack and the Beanstalk.
Adam Boffa I like how Adam gravitates towards these imaginary creatures like unicorns and giants.
Like you're supposed to leave the absolutely very real mundane aspects of your normal life to go chasing these fantastic creatures that don't exist in the hopes that maybe you will find an adventure beyond the kind of interminable guaranteed boredom of your normal existence, which I think is really aspirational.
All right, Adam, it is your turn.
Well, I also like to give a compliment to Hans Christian Anderson, who was in his adulthood, a desperate follower, so desperate to have the approval of the members of the court in Denmark, and to have people like him and compliment him.
And it's amazing that he wrote a story that has had such a great effect on the world, has such a wonderful lesson that he himself never learned.
Alright Somen it is your turn, let's hear your next complement.
I thought it was really, really clever that he ignored the character or the mother altogether because she's truly the hero of this story if you think about it.
She's just trying to save her family and get some money and she just sends her son with a very simple task and then you know he comes home with beans.
She shows quite an amazing amount of restraint so to sort of ignore her and focus on Jack on the hero is a good way of compensating for the story's shortcoming.
Adam, it is time for your final compliment.
I'm just impressed about how Soman knows so many teen keywords.
He just has like every last little teen checklist keyword. Have you hit them all so far on your checklist or there more to go?
He's checking. No, I have more coming in a second.
All right, Somen, let's hear your final compliment.
I was very moved by Adam's story about how he found his friends and kind of made the best of his life.
The problem is, though, it doesn't actually represent what Jack was because Jack never had any friends, you know?
So I like that Adam took Jack's story and tried to create a sequel where he finds friends.
Excellent work, both of you.
These two real -life friends clearly love each other very deeply deep down in the bottom of their hearts.
OK, Hugo, it is time to award a point to the side that impressed you the most. Have you made up your mind?
Yes. Perfect, then it's time for our final round.
The final six. In this round, each team will have just six words to sum up the glory of their side.
Okay, Somin let's hear your six words for why the Ugly Duckling should be crowned the ultimate winner.
Iconic, bop, short as a haiku.
Mm. Lovely. All right, Adam, it is your turn.
Give us six words on why Jack should lead the pack.
Jack is me, Jack is you.
Mm. Wonderful. Those are both thinkers.
Yeah. I enjoyed them both.
All right, Hugo. Only one of them, though, can get the final point for this round.
Have you made your decision?
All right, tally up those points.
Are you ready to crown one team, the SmashBoomBest?
Drum roll, please. And the winner is...
Jack and the Beanstalk.
Wow. Oh, thank you, Hugo.
I am genuinely shocked at that.
It is true and legit a surprise in my voice.
This track... Soman, I thought you did an amazing job and I wish we could talk about fairy tales all day long.
I love talking to you about them.
I'm usually the villain in the story so I'm actually quite happy with the loss.
But you love that role, you relish it.
Love it, love it. Hugo, what was your favorite part of the debate?
Oh, gosh, I really liked both of the micro rounds.
I love the house tours.
I thought they were very funny.
And I don't know, I thought that both the kind of poetic endings were very good as well.
And I'm very interested at the idea of Jack and the Beakstalk too.
Yes, excellent. For realsies, I think someone thinks really deeply about fairy tales, and he hides it in this like really funny snark, and he explores the dark side of fairy tales, which I also love.
But what he does is he goes into the dark side, he allows you to like, play in it feel a little naughty, but then actually find something beautiful and meaningful inside of them.
So I love someone very much. Adam is just the the most brilliant human and so you can't compete with him on substance, so I came in very much ready to completely Go after everything, but substance And the fact that it wasn't is a triumph for good or evil so well done Hugo I would have been quite disturbed if it had gone the other way You are two friends who complement each other very well in all the senses of the word Well, that's it for today's bait battle.
Hugo crowned Jack -in -the -beans dog the Smash Boom Best, but what about you?
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Adam, is there anyone you'd like to give a shout -out to today?
Hugo, Somen, and Fairy Tales.
Wonderful. And how about you, Somen, any special shout -outs?
Super excited to be here with Adam, my friend, and to have Hugo judging us and to Jun Sakaeh, who was a big help on teaching me everything I need to know about the ugly duckling against Christian Anderson.
Awesome. And Hugo, how about you, any special thanks or shout -outs?
Olivia Rodrigo and Chappell Rome.
Before we go, let's check in and see who Sebastian thinks should win the sushi vs ramen debate.
I think sushi would win, because a combination of fish, veggies, fries and seaweed is very good.
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It's Smash Bros. You all made me very nervous in the run up to this with so much preparation and research and fact checking and I was like, oh my goodness!
