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Contrary to conventional wisdom, Avani Prabhakar says it's being an introvert that led her to a top position at her company.
In her 2024 talk Atlassian's Chief People Officer reflects on how the big shift to distributed work during the pandemic led introverts like her to shine, and how going to distributed formats with intentional togetherness led everyone to do better work.
And stick around after the talk for a Q &A with Ted's head of HR Rachael Morris.
Like many of you, I am an introvert and I know it sounds ironic because I'm the chief people officer of a large tech company, but I've never been the loudest in the room.
In fact, I've never been the first, second or even third to offer my opinion.
I have always listened more than I speak and in a world where most dominant voices are often seen as leaders, I have had an uphill battle at work until distributed work changed my life and many others.
I have always had what I call as Grindr's mentality.
And it was shaped early on in my life.
I was born in a tear to a city called Indore in India.
A country that still favors boys, I was the youngest of three sisters.
But my parents were very progressive.
And they expected me to excel both at sports and academics.
Hindi is my first language not English, and for those where English is not your first language, you may understand that it's one thing to be fluent at English and it's another to argue your point in it.
Well, with all of that prep when I joined the workforce, it got further amplified because corporate environments expect you to show up in a certain way.
For you to be successful, you have to be articulate, you have to be the first one to speak, you should be able to hold the space in the room, and the list goes on.
Well, I was putting a lot of energy in showing up in a certain way.
And it was really affecting my life outside of work.
I would come home exhausted, it, and all I could think of was how quickly can I retreat to my room for the night?
Well, 2020 fast forward.
As we all know we became remote workers overnight.
And the future of work was here.
Since that day my company went fully distributed meaning every single employee could choose every single day where they work from we have over 12 ,000 employees working across three thousand cities and locations in fourteen countries but we are not a remote company we are distributed we have over twelve
physical offices which many of our employees choose to work from but there is no return to office mandate It's like no compulsive day.
We believe we are doing it.
We have to really getlow and to work in terms of how we work.
Because where we work is one variable of the equation, but how we work is the most important variable.
And there is a spoiler alert for all of you.
We have got to get really, really good at collaborating.
with and following your learning.
First, we have to move to asynchronous ways of working, meaning work happens in its own time.
So meetings are not the default.
Meetings are the last result.
We use tools such as loom, which allows you to create shareable videos and content which Riding teams can listen to, look at it and react to in their own time.
By using loom, we have saved one of the dreaded thought, which I am sure some of us might have experienced sitting in a meeting, which is, oh my god, this could have been an email.
Why are we here? By using loom, we have saved close to about half a million meetings.
Second thing we had to focus on was we got really deliberate about how design our workday.
Today 65 per cent of knowledge workers think that it's more important to respond to a notification rather than moving actual work forward So we get our teams to really design their day which is divided in three halves.
One designated time for meeting, there is designated workblock to only do deep work and focus work, and then there is an allocated time to do project work with your teams.
