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I'm Yuh -Hun Lin and today I'm welcoming a new friend to the show and I have to warn you.
He's Chinese is really already very good So we're going to use a lot more Chinese in today's show comparing to previous takeaway Chinese and hope for the sophisticated learners, this is going to be a huge treat.
So welcome, Victor Morris Welcome to the show.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
It's good to be here.
Thanks for having me.
It's great to have you.
So tell us a little bit more about yourself.
Well, well, my name is Dr. Moore as you mentioned or Victor or waiter in Chinese.
It's Witter or Victor, both.
Okay, so the truth is there's no C.
Right? I call you Witter, yeah.
Yeah, there's no C.
However, I did realize after being abroad that because Victor with the C or K, whatever, is a common name, in many places.
So I just put the C there to make it easier because Victor has the rrrr, so in the end it is a trouble for a lot of people.
So I rather just put the C.
You can do that. I did change my name to be more convenient.
Yes, it's true but I can call you Vitter.
Oh, yes because you're above the average, you know but the thing is...
the thing is that a lot of people have...
You're very flexible with your name.
Oh, yeah, I don't...
How about your Chinese name?
It's called.. Wai Te Ok.
So I have already bragged about your Chinese so introduce yourself a little bit in Chinese.
Okay, you know when you say that sentence, it's really not clean, in the sense of grammatically because you don't really need all those, but that's very colloquial, very fluent and very Chinese.
But it's grammatically wrong.
It's not wrong wrong, it's more like you don't really need the 今天啊...
You don't, you know.
But yeah, that's the thing about Chinese, when we talk in our daily lives, sometimes we would put in some words that do have meanings.
For example, 今天啊 means probably, 今天 already, 今 virginity almost.
So you see the 今天 and 今, it's kind of like similar, you're just trying to blur the actual time and soften the tone but that is what's happening in daily Chinese settings.
It is, it is. You would put some of these words to soften your tone, to sound less assert, yet it's not for the purpose of making the information less clear, it's just to soften the tone more like talking in everyday language.
You know, this is very interesting that you say because I never thought about it this way and it is true.
Yeah! This is very daily life Chinese and you try to sort of Low -key put everything down, you know Consciously or unconsciously?
Yes, but you're right.
You're right. So when we say Chinese is a high -context language it's both because One word can mean a lot of things and in Chinese we would encourage people to read between the lines Yes because they want to be subtle you do not want us down to aggressive, if you only use very precise information in everyday conversation, it sounds a bit too aggressive and it's not, you know, like you said, nice or Dijiao, but yeah, that's kind of like the next level Chinese.
You're on the next level Chinese.
But like, no, no, no, no.
I'm really not, but like, not that you mentioned, if I may say so.
I just feel like in Chinese and I'm sharing my experience, right?
I just feel like in Chinese, like sometimes if you are too direct, It may be understood as a little bit rude.
So maybe I could say like for example the sentence that I just said I can't give up but I put all these words together.
I could have said I don't give up.
If you say that, it's okay because you're a foreigner.
Yeah, exactly. But it's like if I depending on the context, it might come out a little bit aggressive.
Yes. So that is why maybe that's why I do it.
I have a feeling I have.
It just makes me realize that that's what we do.
And when you do it for me, it stands out.
OK, I see. So where did you learn your Chinese?
After I came, after I came, after I came.
Yes, I worked in this tech company for one year.
And after that, I started my own company working import export.
And when I did that that was 2018 if I'm not mistaken and when I did that you start to travel Frequently to smaller cities in China So I was living in Shanghai and then you start to go to smaller places and the way you go to the smaller places there's less and less people that speak English obviously so Learning Chinese became a necessity.
Yeah, and that's pretty much how it happened Oh really?
Different methods? I did go to class for a while.
Never full time. I was never a full -time student so almost like twice a week something like this.
I have Chinese friends help me out but basically I brainwash myself.
How would you brainwash yourself?
Like I change my phone to Chinese, my computer to Chinese even without understanding anything I was like it doesn't matter I'll just do it and then I'll figure it out on the goal you know?
Basically, that's how it happened.
And now, now that I am studying and the course is in Chinese, and now I'm being confronted with the reality of actually getting into the grammar part and knowing how to structure like a long text in Chinese, which is very different from what I was doing.
So I've reached fluency in terms of daily life communication.
But now, for example, I just finished my my first thesis in Chinese this weekend and it took a lot more time than I thought You know, so how long was it?
It took me an entire day and just to write it.
The research was done Just the writing.
It took me an entire day which is usually not how long is the passage like 3 ,000 characters?
It's not bad but it's not bad.
It's not yeah, but it's not that bad Yeah, but it let's just say like if he was For us, for us in English, I'll be done in like three four hours.
Just a jigalit, you know, because it's just like, and I keep a secret to myself, but I will share it with the audience because I think it's a very distinctive show.
I never learned how to hand write properly.
Yes. So you only type.
I only type and that, but, like, my handwriting.
It's okay, I'm losing my handwriting ability already, so it's not a big deal.
But I, this is one thing for the learners because my Chinese learning process was completely focused on daily life necessity, handwriting was never a necessity.
And it's not a necessity in China for 99 % of the time.
So and for a foreigner here, whenever you have to hand write something, you can always find somebody to help you out.
So you really don't need like to feel a form or something.
We're sharing a lot of things about the Chinese learning today in this episode.
Who had never done it before?
Should I speak more?
No worries! I think it's really great.
I get excited. I think you did a really good job because previously, we focus on the expressions, words, characters.
Sometimes we would even share how the character came into being the origin of certain characters.
But for today's, at least these two takeaways, the one that you not on purposely mess up the message a little bit in your Chinese sentences, that's one thing.
That's what we actually do in China here.
And also the second thing about not needing to learn to hand write characters Even if you need to write something you can always type it on your computer or something like that It's also okay.
So I think these are Important info for whoever is listening.
So that's you in China and your experience and learning and everything in the meantime I'm actually very curious about your country, Brazil Basi.
It's very Very far.
Really, really far.
I'm not a very foodie person.
You're not? I am not, yeah.
I am a really foodie person.
I say I have a 少果爱.
Oh okay, okay, yes.
You only think about food.
That's not what I only think about, but it has a really high priority on it.
It takes up a huge bar.
A huge bar. And also, the thing is, in Chinese we recently had this expression of liyeang ai now.
Have you heard of it?
Liyeang ai now. Liyeang ai.
Yes, of course. I'm just starting to put it together.
Yes, the idea is that for a liyeang ai now, nothing is more important than their relationship.
So they would mess up their career for it, they would leave out their friends out of their everyday social circle Because they've got a new relationship.
It's something that we don't like.
Okay, it's a bad thing Someone of having a lian high now then you're saying you think about only your romantic relationship and nothing else Right that thing and that makes me, you know ponder on my shoe now a little bit So I have a brain head that means when I'm happy I need to go out find something great to eat to celebrate Do you put food above everything else?
Not everything else.
But I put food adjacent to everything I have.
It's like when I'm sad, I eat.
When I'm happy, I eat.
When I need to celebrate, I eat.
I eat. And when I go out with friends, we eat.
Oh. Something very important to me.
So I have to ask...
Yes, a lot of dioceses can be wound in any decision, but if they know, the order is yours.
It is something that most people don't know that I can share.
Brazil has a lot of Japanese immigrants Oh really?
Yes, from the 40s -100s But now they're 4 generations now.
Brazilian people especially from my city in Sao Paulo, they're all very used to Asian food in general.
Ah, that's actually something that I only learned when I was traveling in Europe.
I stayed in Brussels for a while, and I realized that after a while you stop looking for Chinese food, you start looking for Asian food.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're still similar, comparing to the food from other continents.
Well, yeah, of course, the region has similarities.
So, like, sometimes you're looking, like, if you find Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese like you just get it out of your city because you just want to eat it, right?
Noodles or something.
And in Brazil so a lot of people from my city for example they know how to use chopsticks.
We eat a lot of sushi because this is a Japanese influence, but later on what I wanted to say this is like later on there's this huge wave of Chinese immigrants that also came.
So Chinese food is also very popular.
I'm very glad because with myself I don't know, maybe Maybe I'm aging, I've already tried a lot of different cuisines in different places which results in this interesting phenomenon that we sometimes say, my Chinese stomach.
It's kind of like saying yes I can enjoy local food, I can enjoy exotic cuisine for a while but at some point I need to take care of my Chinese stomach.
I need to have a little bit of Chinese food.
It's like, the little biscuit, it's like the little biscuit you have in between different very nice great cheese but you still kind of need that little biscuit.
Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel you, I feel you.
I feel you. It's like, and sometimes it's like that's what Chinese food became to me, as well.
Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I miss Chinese food when I'm not abroad.
And I'm not saying this just to be nice because I'm here.
It's true, it is true.
Even though I am the one who's having a food brain, I still feel like food is one of the most important part in one's life.
One of.. We kind of do it every day.
We kind of do it every day and also it's also kind of the way that you get into another culture.
That is so true, yeah.
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precisely the conversation we had.
I'm pretty sure this person also has a giant Turkové, a Chinese stone.
Probably, probably.
But like her like I'm assuming she did a research to get this and like the research is correct.
As I mentioned, there's a lot of fusion nowadays especially in San Paulo, which is the biggest city.
You talk about fusion as well.
Because I think whenever a local cuisine travel to outside of the local area, especially to a whole different culture it would definitely do a lot of localized we say...
Yes, yes, of course, it gets adapted right?
And it's like I have something very controversial to say and I...
and I decided to say it anyway.
Brazil is an immigrant country as probably some people know, similar to the US in this respect, however Brazil does a very good job from the different people to getting together and becoming Brazilians as a huge society, but one thing that I would say is like we actually adapt not only the country but also the food.
So one thing that we got a lot of European immigrants as well, and the best food, the best pizza I've ever had was in Brazil.
Oh really? Yes. So it's like we have the best pizza.
I'm just shooting this out there.
I know I'm gonna make a lot of enemies but it's okay because life is only one.
He's like, yes, we have the best pizza.
Okay, so one thing is I definitely would love to try in the future in Brazil, try some pizza.
And also, I'd like to invite an Italian guest into the studio to combat with you.
I would just be ready, he's gonna be very angry.
I'm pretty sure we have the best sushi too, but I never been to Japan.
So I don't know, but I have been to Italy and yes, we have the best pizza.
i think.. okay i'm going to play a little bit..
was it too sensitive to say this?
no no no no it's fine i was just trying to say the reason you think the best pizza is from brazil is probably because it fits to your appetite and to the kind of taste that you enjoy the most and it shows that whoever's making the best pizza in vidder's world is doing a really good job localizing oh yeah maybe Italian people would not agree with you not because they're holding up to their pride, but because they genuinely enjoy their pizza more.
So, it could be, it doesn't change the fact we have the best pizza.
But explanation, yes.
Let's see if you have the best dumpling in your head.
But before doing that, let's take a look at the sentences first.
Okay, so for the first sentence.
When she watches bass you do your seeing Yoshima minish your tweets you mom So you mean you mean basically that you're planning a trip to Brazil and asking me for have any food recommendations?
Yes, so what you have that's I plan my plan Yes sure to go to go to Basahn Basis Brazil Brazil, I always wonder how these country names are Translated I would designate an episode talking about the translation in Chinese of these different country names Well, I think in Chinese there's like, there's only two categories.
Most of the countries are translated based on the English name.
Sure. But some of them are not.
Some of like a photo, for example.
Yeah. And like a photo, that's a historic region behind it.
Or Juba. Juba. Japan.
Yeah, but it's like Bemo or Hanggou as well.
But like most of the countries I feel is just based on the pronunciation.
Audalia. Yannada. You know?
It's like, yeah. Yeah, but the exact transliteration is also interesting, we can find some origins of it.
Yeah, so here, Báxí, Brazil.
And Lu Ising. To travel.
To travel. Even the way he translated as travel, actually, it's talking about the kind of personal travel.
Oh, okay. Lu Ising, because - Well, it's not for business, is it?
It's not for business.
Business is definitely Chú Chá yé.
Chú Chá yé. Business trip.
So yes, the English translation is travel yet you cannot use it for ctec.
Right? Mm -hmm So you've seen yo half have sure what may she food Doin sian Recommendations, yes, so may she actually means delicious food.
But yes food. It's food Yeah, it's well because may is beautiful.
Yes, right So it's already putting a little bit up there But like daily life use the meaning daily life is just talking about food Mm -hmm, and It depends because for example in previous times I can remember when TV was super super popular among everybody when watching TV is a must -do I think there were a lot of Mei Shi Pian Dao.
So a lot of food channels Oh, okay.
Yeah, they introduced different types of delicacies in different places.
Yes So it's delicious food channel Mei Shi Pian Dao used to be a dream job back in today to be that guy You know, to be that person But coming from someone who's actually working as a media profession I mean yeah tasting different food is one thing but doing a show it's different You have to eat the same thing for a lot of times because you have to take a lot of different shots Oh yeah no no it's definitely like yeah My experience with shooting is like it looks a lot of fun oh we're going there to shoot something but like the Practical reality can get really tiring too And the méi shi can be a huge plus
making me feel much happier about the shooting though Well, if you like it, let's say you don't like it.
It's gonna be not that mei, you know?
So mei xi and tui zhen here, it can be a noun, recommendation.
Or it can be a verb.
It's a verb. So if it's ni tui xian, it's a verb.
It's a noun. Yes. Well, basically mean there's there's plenty of great food in Brazil or a pretty beautiful food in Brazil And that you can try fij chatter, which is really flavorful.
Let's say flavorful Yeah, it's like one of the let's say it's one of the most now I'm out of the dialogue already, right?
So life is one of the most traditional dishes.
You can put it this way Interesting.
Okay. So basically we know Brazil, made beautiful food, delicious food, means that I have the recommendations to give it to you.
Actually it means there are a lot.
So something something is like saying, we have a lot of those.
It is a kind of a colloquial way of saying it.
Maybe you have not encountered this expression just yet.
For example. So there are a lot of homework.
of homework. Actually, it's a new expression for me.
I never heard it before.
I have a lot of these.
And it always carries the meaning of it's kind of like saying, I have a lot of this and something is up to you, right?
Or you can choose either one of those, right?
Or it's not used. Um, singularly, it's not used on itself.
It always implies something.
For example, if I say 다오드 실씼아, so she has a lot of time.
Or 실씼아 다오씼아. She has a lot of time.
It almost always implies that maybe she does not have money or maybe it implies something.
But now that you put it in the front like 다오씼아 makes sense.
Now I understand the meaning.
다오드 실씼아. It's sort of like..
This is something emphasizing.
but you can also put it at the end of the sentence.
It's not like she doesn't have time, it's the money she's lacking.
Usually when you're using this sentence you're implying something.
So if it's just a narration, it's just a statement, then you don't use the expression like this.
There's a certain type of nuance.
And also, for example - Shanghai, zhengodade cheng shi, gong zh probe zhi hui yod she.
So for Shanghai a city this huge, there are a lot of opportunities.
But you have to look for them.
Something like that.
That's how you use yod she.
So here, bassy mei shi, yod she, there are so many, and just you just worry about whether or not you have the appetite to try them all, or something like that.
I see, I see. And niqi xu shi, you can try khitofan.
Well, that will be the Chinese translation for fish Varda actually.
So what is fish Varda?
Can you describe it?
Yes, so we use for fish Varda, we eat a lot of rice and beans in Brazil.
You can use it either like brown or black beans.
It's different in China because in China they usually use for desert.
right? So they're like sweet.
For us, this is salty, it's actually a dish, it's a drusche.
Ahh, staple food. Yeah, and you eat that with the daily life dish because that's because that's just too heavy but like we do eat rice and beans on daily life basis with beef and french fries or salad.
However, fajrada specifically is something a dish that traditionally at least in some Paulo people usually eat it on Saturdays and it's like there's no religion reason it's just I don't know the historic reasons like it's just what it is and okay basically it's very heavy so it's black beans specifically with a lot of pork.
So you put it with different parts of the pork so you can feed to have everything in there, it's a big cauldron, right?
It actually is a big cauldron, yeah, literally.
And then you eat it with something we call kauvi which is a...
I don't know how to say it in English, but it's a sort of vegetable, green vegetable, leaves, and you can eat it also with oranges in order to make it more acid or something in a bit, a powder, what we call farofa, which is this small powder, I'm getting hungry, you get this powdery thing on top of it, yeah.
But basically, it's salty and parts of the country, again, Brazil is very big.
So parts of the country also puts a lot of pepper inside it so it gets spicy.
I like the spicy version already.
Yeah, now I feel likechéi -dó -fán does not do it justice, because...
It doesn't. The translation is not… Yeah, ironically, fán -ké means mi Fán, which is rice, and sometimes, you don't eat it with rice.
But now, I understand how come it'sng -huì, becauseng -huì is like, heavy.
Heavy, and it's with a lot of different flavors, so it's hard to describe exactly Exactly if it's savory or if it's just sweet or just spicy.
It's a lot of those.
It's heavy and rich.
And usually you eat at lunch because if you did a night, you're probably going to have trouble sleeping because that's how full you get, it's going to get super, super full.
I would love to visit.
And try. Well, and apparently, the person in the dialogue also said, wow, it sounds really good.
Now asking me if...
他他們 is hard to translate, but it's like, well, by the way, sort of by the way, let me ask you, yes, if there are many Chinese restaurants in Brazil.
Yes. So 他他 is kind of like, this is not something that is hard to add on what's already there.
卦 is like smooth and 卦 is convenient.
So it's like, I have something to tag along to ask you.
This so it's kinda like, by the way, but stressing the idea that it's something easy, right?
So can you bring me a pen because you're already visiting the office and bring a pen with you is not something you should put a lot of effort in, because you're already gonna do something.
Yeah, so that's for me.
It is precisely, by the way, by the way.
But this is like the, by the way that can happen to all scenarios, not only asking a question right so that's you can I'm asking this one more question that's not going to cause you a lot of trouble or you can go and get me a glass of water because it's not going to trouble you too much right you can also oh there's the Chinese expression shunlu means basically we're on the same route where it's on the way It's on the way.
Yeah, I can drop you by because your comb is on the way.
You got the luchan?
Yes, so that's how you use it.
And, Niman, that's your nà lihi.
Where? Or there? Or there, there, there.
Sorry, sorry. Nà lihi is where?
It's okay. Zhongsanqing.
Chinese restaurant?
You can ask about it Chinese restaurant or you can directly ask about Chinese food.
Zhongsan, Chinese food.
So, it's zhanqing, or Zhongsanqing is the Chinese restaurant.
Many were not. Very good.
Basically saying of course there's Chinese cuisine already became a part of our local cuisine and it's worth to try it out.
Yes, I think I ask you whether or not you use Mei's Hua a lot.
Yes, you did. Do you use Dangsoft?
Not that much. I use Dangsoft a lot.
personal habit, but I use it in the way that I am being a bit official for small things.
So, for example, if people say, can I have a piece of paper, I will say, Dangjian, of course, a little bit playful way.
So, it's sure. Yeah, I don't use Dangan that much.
Not that you ask, I'm trying to thank you.
But it's a useful one.
It means of course, it's very easy to understand the meaning.
It's just, of course.
But I don't, yeah, it's a habit thing.
Yeah It's a happy thing.
And if for example if someone say can you bring me again a pen if you say Koejia sure.
It's of course. It's natural and it's fine if you say Dangjan of course.
You're my good friend I would definitely bring a pen.
See a bit playful. Yeah a little bit sarcastic too Depending on the personality yes Dangjan of course also depends who you're talking to.
Yes and then we have 한도 한도, Chinese food.
Yeah also 한도, so blending so 한도 carries the meaning of melt melt so if the ice is melting you get to see 한도, it's kind of like the blend that is to enter.
Yeah, and in a relatively probably more likely, thorough way.
So, Zhonghe, if we're talking about integrate, you're talking about the kind of integration that happens in smaller and smaller unit.
So, if it's just two things putting together, then you don't usually use Zhong, this word or character in the Chinese language.
If we think about Zhonghe, it definitely is the kind of mix in very small unit.
So, it's a very thorough integration.
Right. And, think about food, definitely, if you're borrowing a certain way of cooking or ingredients, definitely, it's something that's very well blend together.
Yes, of course. So, 정우리랑 that's ours or we or us.
다이, that's local. Well, 떴서, in this case, means our local specialty, let's say, but it doesn't, doesn't necessarily have to do with food.
No, this is the context again.
Yes specialty Jīdīyīqāng worth trying worth trying precisely worth trying Jīdīyīqāng is worth and the i cháng is have a try One thing is that jīdīyīqāng is kind of like a fixed phrase or something So if you want to say Sure, people understand you, but usually in this context, is the phrase you go to.
Okay, good to know.
I didn't know this one.
So, and that is the conversation.
Would you like to try the conversation with me?
That's good. Let's read it along.
Yeah. Which one am I?
You're the one in Brazil, apparently.
Okay. You got it. You sound more like a Chinese person than I do because I tried to enunciate it clearly.
And I didn't, I'm sorry.
I love your way of doing it with the, a little bit of accent like Chinese accent.
Well, yeah, I try to make it more real life -istic, realistic in the sense of Hollywood sound like I failed miserably.
I apologize to all the audience.
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And give me more reason to visit.
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So tell me, if I ever go to Brazil, What kind of Zhonghe mention will I be able to enjoy?
Well, again, I would love to emphasize the fact that Brazil is a very big country.
So it's like more or less almost same size as China.
So like you need to there are different regions have different cuisines and different habits and they change a lot.
However, if you let's say if you go to Sao Paulo, which is my city and also the biggest center for immigration in the past century.
let's put it this way, because it's the economic center I think you will find a lot of blends with Italian food Japanese food for sure and also Chinese food as well But also lots of Middle Eastern especially in Lebanese food as well So like in actually we have a lot now not that I live abroad you start to realize actually in daily life in St Paulo, we use we eat food from all over the world literally.
We do that in Beijing as well Yeah, and it now is so integrated.
That it's interesting to see.
And it's like nowadays I'm just asking my Brazilian friends which are all, like, non -Asian, let's say this way, and they're all like, let's get some sushi.
And we're so casual, you know.
As it's like, we could have sushi or we could have fish while they're like, we don't know, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, so it becomes really normal.
And in that case because I was reading, doing the research since I, for me for example, or any common Chinese, definitely Brazil would be a place we want to visit and everything.
We want to do research, but like you said, it's a really far away country.
And when we travel, if it's, for example, a personal travel for leisure, then we, maybe some people would choose to go to some other Latin American countries as well.
So along the way. So we would kind of do the research of the entire area as a whole.
So I also get to see that for example, Chinese food in Peru is a thing.
It's even though the physical or geographic distance between these two countries are far, yet they are closely tied when it comes to food.
For example, there is the term chífa in Peru.
the word Chifa. Yes.
Okay. The word Chifa in Cantonese means to eat rice.
True fact? Yeah, true fact ,ba and later, the meaning was ordered in to come to eat rice, precisely rice.
Right. And today, you'll find the Chifa in the menu of almost every Peruvian restaurant.
Oh, it's interesting.
Yes. It's very interesting.
Mm hmm. It's something I feel quite interesting.
So I guess when we are talking about the kind of Chinese food in Latin America, not only in Brazil or Peru in all these different countries, you get to enjoy the kind of distinct examples of like one dish that is integrated or integrating these different types of for So when I was doing the research, there was this one called Taya -ling Campoyo.
Yes, yes, Taya -ling Campoyo.
Yes, it says, according to my research, it is made of special yellow noodles prepared with eggs and chicken.
And the other ingredients include Chinese onions, vegetables, ginger, and soy sauce, also something that I feel like is more common here in China.
But it's also common at least in Brazil.
I mean, I cannot speak for Peru, but in Brazil it's also very common.
Very common. This is one of the more spicy dishes of Peruvian culture, and there are multiple variations of the dish available with varying degrees of Peruvian touch.
Is it also common in Brazil?
Yes, yes. We have like, I think soy sauce is a very good example on, because soy sauce is fully integrated in our cuisine now.
Great. Like, yeah, yeah, the way you use it, sometimes you use it for salad, which is definitely not a - I don't use it for salad.
Well, so we use it for salad, you know.
And a salad doesn't definitely doesn't come from China because we use the raw vegetables, which is usually not very common traditional Chinese cuisine, the raw vegetables, they're all like steamed or anything else.
Oyo steamed, yes. But now, the soy sauce is, you know.
So you can go to a restaurant in Brazil that has nothing to do with Chinese cuisine or Asian cuisine.
And they have soy sauce on the table.
Great. So soy sauce in Chinese, by the way.
And also by the look of this dish, I feel like it's something that I can have here in China in any Chinese restaurant.
It's basically just noodle with a chicken adjacent to it.
Yes, basically. It's very simple.
It's a very simple dish, but it's just amazing.
Sometimes simple is good.
You don't have the complex things all the time.
Yeah, I agree. And I think one of the reasons that nowadays more and more people would be able to enjoy different food from different places, it's because the exchange, cultural exchange, people -to -people exchange is getting denser and denser...
That's for sure. ...and more and more frequent.
For example, the longest commercial passenger flight from China will take you from China to Mexico City in Latin America.
And China's southern airlines launched its first ever direct passenger flight from the mega city of Shenzhen to Mexico City, which sets the record as the longest non -stop regular commercial flight to originate in China.
The flight covers an intercontinental distance of around 14 ,000 kilometers in each direction, so it's really, really far away, and it takes around 16 hours non -stop to Mexico City.
Not really sure if it's something I would choose, You know, but if you think about the kind of trip that you have to, you know, stay at an overnight in a different city, then maybe you never know.
Having the choice is good.
Well, yes, I guess.
I guess it's out there.
There's there's demand for sure.
Yes. And in the meantime, on top of cuisine in Latin America, what would you say is another thing?
One other thing that you think is very common was like Chinese influence in Brazil, in Brazil, mmm.
Chinese influence. I don't know specifically if it's Chinese.
Well we know a lot, of course we use a lot of things that came from China.
For example, Brazil is a very big country on fireworks that originally come from China.
Oh, really? Oh, of course.
we have our own It's our own style but like it's...
fireworks! Yes, we have because for especially New Year's, I think everywhere, but in New Year's like the 31st of December?
Bienpao is like for the sound, whereas yenhua is the firework, you have both in the air, beautifully.
No, no, no. So, we use the bianpao for soccer matches.
Oh really? That's so cool.
Yeah, you throw them up, but there's no lights, it's just noise.
We love that. It's very ceremonial.
Yeah, and it's like, we have the Yinhua for New Year's, which is beautiful.
Hopefully, we have the Bien Paul for football.
soccer match. Yeah, for soccer.
So cool. How about traditional Chinese medicine?
Well, Acupunctur is big in Brazil.
Ah, really? Yes, Acupunctur...
Yes, it's very big.
It's very big. I never tried myself.
No, I knew you were gonna ask so like I haven't I haven't but my mom used to be Big on that she used to go like every week.
You're in China. Try some in any hospital It's even covered by the medical insurance.
I know no, I did I did the I forgot saying Chinese the cupping thing Ah baguar.
Baguar. Yes, yes, I try that a few times.
It's quite nice and And yeah, I think that is a super acupuncture is very common.
Yeah, very, very common.
It's crazy to think that for two countries that are so far away from each other, we share something so similar and do we enjoy culture from each other?
Well, I think people also can remember the fact that this in cross culture interactions, they've been happening for centuries.
Yes. I know nowadays is much more convenient.
Yes, but we didn't start it.
Right. This has been going on for a very long time.
And that's why we say, sometimes we believe the globe is really flat.
The world is just flat.
And small. And that brings us to the end of today's Takeaway Chinese.
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It was my pleasure looking forward for the next time.
Looking forward for the next time, do you actually bring a lot of very interesting comments and good experience about learning Chinese?
Not at all. Thank you so much.
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