Hey weirdos, it's Ash. Before we dive into today's twisted tale, let me tell you about the spooky perks of Wondery+.
It's like having a skeleton key that unlocks ad-free listening and early access to new episodes.
So don't wait. Try Wondery Plus today. You can join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or in Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
You're listening to a Morbid Network podcast.
Listening on Audible helps your imagination soar.
Whether you listen to stories, motivation, expert advice, any genre you love, you can be inspired to imagine new worlds, new possibilities, and new ways of thinking.
Listening can lead to positive changes in your mood, your habits, and ultimately your overall well-being.
Audible has an incredible selection of over 1 million audiobooks, podcasts, and Audible Originals all in one easy app.
Find the genres you love and discover new ones.
Explore bestsellers like my sister's title.
New releases, plus thousands of included audiobooks, podcasts, and originals that members can listen to all they want with more added all the time.
I have been listening to the Martha's Vineyard Beach and Book Club, which actually Elena recommended to me.
She did not listen to it, but she said, I love Audible.
There's more to imagine when you listen.
Sign up for a free 30-day Audible trial and your first audiobook is free.
Visit audible.com slash morbid. If you're shopping while working eating or even listening to this podcast, then you know and love the thrill of a deal.
But are you getting the deal and cash back?
Rakuten shoppers do. They get the brands they love, savings and cash back.
And you can get it too. Start getting cash back at your favorite stores like Target, Sephora, and even Expedia.
It's easy to use, and you get your cash back sent to you through PayPal or Check.
And Rakuten shares the money with you as cash back.
Download the free Rakuten app or go to Rakuten.com to start saving today.
It's the most rewarding way to shop. That's R-A-K-U-T-E-N Rakuten.com.
Hey weirdos, I'm Ash. And I'm Elena.
Wow. And this is Morbid. And it's Minnie.
It's so tiny. mini mini mini mini mini morbid mini morbid mini morbid mini morbid little small so tiny small Like me.
What's up, sister? Hey, girl. Everybody's like, oh, weird.
I fucking opened the wrong podcast. Everybody's like, wow, unsubscribe.
So we don't have a lot of business today, especially because it's a mini episode and we try to stray from the business on those episodes.
But one thing we just wanted to tease y'all with real quick. is next week we are going to be covering the Lizzie Borden case.
Which a lot of people have been like, hey, you're from Massachusetts.
What's wrong with you not covering that case?
Well, the reason we haven't covered it is because we've wanted to cover it in a very special way.
So we're going to be covering it From a very special location.
And we're not going to tell you that location, but I think you might be able to deduce.
We are from Massachusetts. What's in Massachusetts?
Lizzie Borden's family. That's who. That's who.
So we're not going to tell you anything else.
But get really excited for that, guys. And that's really all the business we had.
So, without further ado, drumroll please.
It's hash test. Ashtastic? Oh, sis. Oh, we thought it was ash-centric, but it's actually ashtastic.
And... On July 18th. Whoa. Rebecca Schaefer was waiting for the script of The Godfather 3 to be delivered to her home in West Hollywood. oh no also it was 1989 didn't tell you that you didn't um But now you did.
So the Godfather role was huge. Like, even just to be... It was for The Godfather 3.
Even just to be asked to audition for this part was like a huge deal.
Yeah. Winona Ryder got asked. Oh, damn.
I want to say like Madonna maybe got asked.
Likely. Could be wrong. She was in fucking movies and shit.
You know, I couldn't remember if she was in movies.
And then I said to myself, a league of their own, Ash.
Oh, yeah. There you go. And she was a Vita.
She was the movie Evita. Oh, yeah. Well, she was Meg.
May. Yeah, May. May. May. All the way May.
All the way May. That was her. Dirt in the skirt.
Okay, I'm really going off on a tangent.
It was definitely Madonna. Yeah, so Madonna was asked, Winona Ryder was asked, and Rebecca Schaefer was asked.
So she was waiting to get this script delivered that morning.
Damn. Yeah. A few years earlier, Rebecca Schaefer had moved to California after living in New York for a little while, and that's where she started out her acting career.
She was on shows like One Life to Live, which I've never seen, and My Sister Sam, which I want to watch because I watched some previews and I was like, that looks right up my eye. alley really yeah it's just like so fun it's very facts of lifey oh okay that makes sense facts of life is like the reason it got canceled so oh well touchy subject definitely Yeah.
Rebecca was super, super talented. And like from a young age, she started acting when she was like 16.
And everybody that acted with her said that she was like a natural and she had a presence.
Yeah, exactly. And a lot of people said she was well beyond her years.
When she began getting fan mail, her friends that she worked with were concerned because she would write people back and they were like, that's really nice that you're doing that. yeah but you're kind of setting yourself up for like always doing that yeah always do that people might get a little attached and Especially with celebrities, actresses and stuff.
I feel like people get soup. into it and it's like if she's writing back they're gonna feel like they are owed something you know like they're gonna feel like kind of too much of a connection like They can overstep.
Yeah. Exactly. So they urged her to please, like, maybe stop doing that so much.
Yeah, like, take a step back. and they also said please never ever ever put your real name on your mailbox oh yeah Which I got a lot of my information from a 2020 special.
So that's like where I got that. But when the woman said that, I was like, oh, shit, that's such a good point.
I didn't even think of that. Yeah. Yeah.
So anyways, one fan in particular became super obsessed with Rebecca.
His name was Robert Bardo. He grew up in Arizona.
And he was the youngest of seven kids, which is a lot of children.
One might say too many. It's me. I said too many.
It's me. I said it. Hi. What's up? And he had suffered a lot of physical and mental abuse, which is sad.
One of his teachers said that he was, quote, a time bomb on the verge of exploding.
Yeah. That's not good. His teachers would get like threatening letters from him and stuff like that.
Like he, from a young age, showed a lot of signs of...
Not good. And it sounds like nobody took these signs seriously.
I guess not. That's always the story here.
Well, he had been hospitalized more than once and definitely struggled with mental health issues.
So 1986 was when his obsession with Rebecca began.
He saw her on the TV show My Sister Sam, where she played Pam Dauber's little sister Patty.
Oh, okay. And he decided to write her a letter.
And when she responded, she said that his was one of the nicest that she had ever received.
Aww. She literally just seemed like she was the sweetest.
Such like a genuine human. like a pure soul and so but he took that a little too yeah like oh okay so we're destined to be together yeah So he decided to go to California to try to meet her.
It's so scary that someone can like make that jump.
Like, you know what I mean? Like just go from...
Well, you're just so out of touch with reality.
It's so sad. It is. But it's also fucking terrifying. it's terrifyingly sad that's what it and it's like so you get it's like you can't just be happy having this letter connection with her like cool just Just be like, she wrote me back.
That's awesome that she wrote back. It's like Stan.
Yeah. yeah it's like the eminem song yeah it really is it's exactly that it's really sad So he did go to California to meet her and went to, I think it was Warner Brothers, where my sister Sam was filmed.
And he showed up with a teddy bear and flowers on set.
Oh, my God. That's really sad. It is really sad.
That's actually really sad. And when he arrived at the gate where security was, they were like, no, you can't.
He was like, I want to meet Rebecca. And they were like, well, who are you?
There were a lot of people. dude. Yeah.
And he got like super, super agitated. Oh.
And like pissed off. And then I think one security guard I was like, you know, man, like, I'm sorry, like, where are you staying?
Like, I don't want you to have to lug that teddy bear back on the bus.
And, like, gave him a ride back to where he was going.
Oh. So they weren't like dickheads. Yeah, they were trying to be like, sorry, we understand.
Like, you know, yeah, they were actually pretty nice.
Well, I feel like most nine out of 10 times like people are.
They would have been like, get the fuck out of here, you weirdo.
Exactly. So he came back again about a month later.
Apparently with a knife this time. Oh, that's different from a teddy bear.
Which is, yep. Big leaps and bounds here.
Very different. But again he wasn't let into the studio.
Well that's good. Yeah. That time it's very good.
So when he got home though he was really fucking pissed off that he was unable to meet her.
And he started to become more and more obsessed with the idea that they were either together or like destined to be together.
So Rebecca started getting more acting opportunity.
She was starting to appear in like made for TV movies and like A bunch of different stuff.
She was going to be like huge. And that really sucks.
Oh, she was. Yeah. Like she probably would have gone.
The Godfather. role she was on the trajectory to be like this great actress and it's like she was she was really up and coming yeah And she did this movie Class Struggle in Beverly Hills.
And in the movie, there's like a love scene with her co-star.
When Robert saw that, he lost his noodle.
Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, I didn't even think of that.
Yeah, because he like he would feel like she's his like he would feel jealous.
Well, exactly. And he felt well, exactly.
Like, I felt very jealous when Claire Danes made out with Leonardo DiCaprio in Romeo and Juliet.
Me too. But that's as far as it was. But I did.
You didn't want to kill her. No, I didn't.
I did not. I was like, Leo, could have been me.
I literally was like, but. I mean, I'm angry at Claire James, but I'll get over it.
Yeah, exactly. Well, Robert didn't feel that way.
He felt like She was supposed to save her innocence for him.
Oh. Which is scary. Oh, that takes us to a whole different level.
Yup. That's not just like, man, she like you're hot and I'm sad that you're making out with that other person.
Like that's a whole different thing. And he said something along the lines of, like, she had become, like, another Hollywood whore.
Which is, like, that's horrible. I don't like that word.
I just said that and I didn't like it. Right?
It doesn't feel good. No. I don't often ever say that word.
No, I never say that word. I love that I dropped the word cunt like it's nothing.
Yeah. But then I can't say whore. Same. Yeah, for some reason, yeah.
Some reason, like, cunt feels less... Harsh than it does.
I think it's because I was raised on an Irish pub.
Anyways. Anyways, back to the show. Yeah, this is dark.
It's fucked up. So he decided he was going to meet Rebecca once and for all.
Oh, no. But this time it was going to be a different idea than what he had before.
Oh, no. So in the days leading up to July 18th, Bardo was planning and plotting for Rebecca's murder.
God, I can't believe it went that far that fast.
Well, and it was just like your typical, if I can't have you, then nobody else is going to kind of motive.
So scary. He went to buy a gun and the man in the store wouldn't sell him one because he actually pulled up his record and it showed that he had struggled with mental health yeah um and he even went as far as hanging his photo in the gun store so like nobody else would sell him wow But,
Robert convinced his brother to buy the gun for him, telling him that he just wanted it for target practice and he promised that he wouldn't use the gun unless he was with his brother.
Oh no. Um, but also he's got that on his head.
Yeah. Yeah. That's rough. But obviously that was not the truth either, that he was like, oh, I'm just going to use it for chiropractic.
Yeah, I'm just going to use it to shoot at trees.
It's fine. Yeah. So 19 year old Bardo then hopped on a bus headed to L.A. to carry out this whole master plan.
And also just a side note. He had been inspired by Arthur Richard Jackson, who had stalked and then attacked Teresa Saldana, who was an actress from the early 80s.
Oh, yeah. And she actually survived the attack.
She did. I remember that story. So, Jackson, I'm going off on a side note just because this is where Robert got his... kind of idea from.
So Jackson got Teresa's address after he found her mother's phone number.
Holy shit. And called her mother. and saying that he was to deliver a really important script to her, and he lost her address, and could she tell him what it was?
Oh, my God. And the mom is sitting there like, Especially, I mean, in the early 80s, like this hadn't really happened a lot.
Yeah. No one had really been like stalked.
Yeah, shit wasn't the same. Like how everybody has a stalker.
How people like dox people and stuff online and all that, you know.
Right, so she was like, okay, and gave it to him.
And he... Oh, man. fucking stabbed her like multiple times and like i said she survived and he went to jail But this is where Bardo got his ideas.
Oh, my God. So when he got to L.A., we're back to Bardo now.
He hired a private investigator to find out Rebecca's address.
Oh my God. And when he got it, he went directly there on the morning of July 18th. he it was super weird he like wandered around her neighborhood first like showing her picture to people and being like oh like have you seen this girl around the neighborhood like And they're like, it's fucking Rebecca.
Yeah, they're like, I've seen her on TV.
Yeah. And like a lot of people were like not.
Like, wanting to talk to him because he was super creepy.
Yeah, because that's weird. It was West Hollywood, so they didn't think anything of it.
So this private investigator he hired actually gave him her address.
I think he got it from, like, the DMV because back then, the DMV, there was no law against, like, giving out addresses.
Like, you could... You could go to the DMV and just like fill out a piece of paper saying who you were and why you wanted it.
And like they could they would just give it to you.
That's so fucked. Yeah. That's real fucked.
So he literally paid him $250 and he got her address.
God, for $250? Yeah. Wow. And people didn't like the look of him when he was there, like walking around the neighborhood.
Like one lady was like, he literally looked demonic.
Ugh. Like he and oh, that just like gave me chills.
You're not supposed to judge people by what they look like, but he's a shit stain.
So yeah, he is really fucking terrifying.
Yeah. No, he is. I remember seeing a picture.
He looks so spook spook. Yeah, he does. He wandered around holding the manila envelope with a sign, and he had a signed picture of her that she had sent him.
Oh, okay. Like, when she was being nice enough to fucking write him back.
And he also had a copy of J.D. Salinger's Catcher in the Rye in a plastic bag.
So just like Mark David Chapman when he killed John Lennon.
Exactly. So this guy is literally just taking... pieces from other people yeah he's the fucking btk of celebrity murderers what the fuck dude be original Catcher in the Rye, come on.
Literally, go fuck yourself. Can you be more on the fucking nose?
What's that one thing that holds in? Oh, you're a phony.
You're a phony. Anyways, so eventually he got to Rebecca's apartment and he buzzed her intercom.
Her intercom was broken at the time, so she had no choice but to come down and see who was at the door.
And maybe she normally wouldn't have done that, but like I said, this was a big morning.
She was waiting for a script. Oh, yeah. So she would have gone down...
Anybody can deliver a script, so she wouldn't have recognized the person.
Yeah, it wouldn't have been somebody that she knew.
So that's why she was so... easy to go downstairs oh what shitty coincidences yeah Why choose a Sleep Number smart bed?
Can I make my site softer? Can I make my site firmer?
Can we sleep cooler? Sleep Number does that.
Cools up to eight times faster and lets you choose your ideal comfort on either side.
Your Sleep Number setting. It's the Sleep Number biggest sale of the year.
All beds on sale. Up to 50% off the limited edition smart bed, plus free home delivery with the purchase of any smart bed.
Ends Monday. All Sleep Number smart beds offer temperature solutions for your best sleep.
Check it out at a Sleep Number store or sleepnumber.com today.
The town of Agde in France is famous for sun, sand, sea and sex.
But lately, life on the coast has taken a strange turn.
The town's mayor, a respected pillar of the community, has been arrested for corruption.
His wife claims he's been bewitched by a beautiful clairvoyant.
Then there's the mysterious phone calls that local people have been getting.
I am the Archangel Michael. The whole town has been thrown into chaos.
As the mayor is unable to carry out his duties I would like to address you all.
Legal proceedings have been initiated. Join me, Anna Richardson, and journalist Leo Schick for The Mystic and the Mayor as we investigate a story of power, corruption, and magic.
Binge all episodes of The Mystic and the Mare exclusively and ad-free right now on Wondery Plus.
Start your free trial in Apple Podcasts, Spotify or the Wondery app.
So when she opened the door to Bardo he explained that he was her biggest fan.
He showed her the signed picture of her that he had.
And she was super nice to him and entertained the conversation for like a couple minutes.
That's impressive because I would immediately be terrified.
Yeah. Like I'd immediately be like, oh, no, no, no, no.
Like you are at my house. Yeah. This has taken way too far.
Well, she went as far as to she excused herself, but not before shaking his hand and saying, please take care.
Oh, like she was super fucking nice. And then she, like, excused herself.
She left and he left. So he had this very pleasant interaction with her.
Yes. Very nice. So then he goes to eat at a diner.
Like, not too far from her apartment. And he is sitting there, like, stewing because he... thought he was gonna kill her and then she was super fucking nice to him and he probably didn't have any reason to exactly so but then he went back because god only knows why Yeah, so he's just pissed that he doesn't have the motivation he needed.
Yeah. So he went back and he said something... to her like i forgot to give you a cd or like i something like that and according to him but i don't believe this just based on who rebecca was as a person like based on what everybody says, he said that she said something along the lines of that he was wasting her time.
Yeah, I don't believe that. To go away. Yeah, I don't believe that.
And I was like, I don't think so. And he said that she was acting like a brat or something like that.
Probably because she was like, okay. That's enough.
You're freaking me out. Yeah, like the first time you... The first time was way overstepping.
Yeah. Way breach of privacy. And then for you to come back... To come back...
I'd be like, okay, like this is totally taking a turn.
Way too much. So I wouldn't, that's not acting like a brat.
That's being a fucking human being. Yeah.
Who's like, okay. I'm a little upset here.
Right. So then that is when he reached into his back waistband. pulled it and fired, pulled the gun and fired two shots at Rebecca.
One hit her directly in the heart. Oh, my God.
That just, like... Like the saddest thing.
Ugh. And there is like video footage of his interrogation or whatever it is. and he like reenacts it and he's acting like he's in like a movie or and he's like oh pull the gun and he... I think I saw this.
So, but he fucks himself because his lawyers were trying to say that like the gun was in the bag. when he killed her, so, like, it wasn't premeditated exactly.
Yeah. Because they were trying to get him out of first-degree murder.
Yeah. Of course. And Marsha Clark, the prosecutor, was like, watching his interrogation video over and over again, she was like, something about it was bothering me.
And he, when he explains how he shot her, He reaches around to his back pocket, literally, or like his back waistband and does this kind of motion and then says that he fired.
So it's clear that it was there all along.
That it was in his back pocket or in his back waistband and he had to reach all the way around to grab it out.
Like he had stashed it. Yeah. So that's how she got him.
And I think I remember seeing that interrogation video because it's terrifying because he's Very, like, excited to show, like, how he shot this poor woman.
Yeah, he's literally like... And then I was like... And then he... obviously she like screamed and he's like yeah because he's like reenacts her screaming yes i remember that And it's so fucked up.
He does this weird like slow motion like movie like.
Yes. Oh, like in like literally back. Just like.
Yes, I remember. It's like it's like burned in my brain.
I remember watching that. You killed someone yesterday.
And he's acting like it was this really cool movie scene that he did.
Yeah. It's fucked. So after... He killed her.
He immediately fled the scene and like she went back to Arizona.
Oh my God. So in the meantime, Rebecca's parents flew out to identify her body.
Ugh. Somebody has to. And her father remembered.
How old was she? 21. Oh, my God. Yeah. Fucking baby.
She was literally super young. She was younger than I am.
She had her whole career ahead of her. It's just, like, it's so sad anyways when anybody fucking dies, but this girl had, like, the brightest future.
Yeah. She was such... And she just seemed so nice.
Yeah, she seemed like a genuine person. She shook his hand and said, take care.
She wrote him back. And because she slept with somebody on camera for her role.
Yeah. Because she acted. Yeah. Did her job.
Right. Because she did what you liked her to do everywhere else.
And that she was protected behind the Warner Brothers security fence at her job.
Yeah. Fuck you. So fucking entitled. When her parents flew out to identify her body, her dad remembered that he said her body was there, but she wasn't.
Her spirit was gone. Oh, my God. Which is like, oh, that's just like that just gave me like like heartache, instant heartache.
Cause that's like your child. It's just, she was their only child.
Oh my God. I can't even. So sad. I can't.
Her parents are, like, bad bitches, though.
Just wait until the end. Good. So, the next day, Robert Bardo...
Was arrested in Tucson after running in and out of traffic on Interstate 10.
Very casual. They thought maybe he was, like, trying to get hit by a car or something, but he was running in and out of traffic yelling, I killed Rebecca Shaver.
What the fuck? Like, this guy needed serious mental treatment.
Yeah, he clearly needed a lot of help. Yeah.
So shortly after he was arrested, his sister notified authorities that she had suspected he'd been responsible. when she heard about Rebecca Schaefer's death because he had written her letters describing his obsession with Rebecca.
And telling her like he was so pissed off that she became a Hollywood W word.
Yeah. And he was, like, basically telling his sister that this was his plan.
That I'm gonna kill her. Yeah, exactly. So...
Later during the trial, Bardo's brother and father testified that once they heard about Rebecca's death, they looked to see if the gun was gone. that they knew he had can you imagine and when they saw that it was gone they knew they were like but it's like guys When he's telling you like how pissed off he is that this celebrity is having a love scene and that she's a whore now and that he's like, felt betrayed by her because of this don't you think you should take action then yeah because that's fucked up and that's not normal like logical human thinking no He needed to be somewhere, like put somewhere.
They should have looked at them and like, OK, this is this has started to turn.
This isn't just like his celebrity crush.
Like we need to take action. here and they didn't what the fuck guys like his sister you got fucking letters where he's describing how pissed he is about this you take action yeah Like, what the hell, guys?
It's so fucked up. So, like I said, the defense tried to build this insanity case where they were like, oh, he's guilty because of this.
But Marsha Clark was like, yeah, fuck you.
It was premeditated. He brought, he put the gun in his waistband and I know it.
And also, oh, the defense tried to say, he tried to say that a U2 song made, like, spoke to him and, like, possessed him and made him want to kill someone.
Jesus. And if you want to see the most terrifying fucking video in your life.
Oh no. You can watch them play the U2 song. in court and he literally it's like Diane Downs style like she was like nodding her head to Hungry Like a Wolf Hungry Like a Wolf But he is going nutso over this song.
He's like headbanging and like singing the lyrics.
In court. literally like bopping back and forth we should post it if possible oh my god i watched it and i had full fucking body chills What song is it?
Do you know? It was Exit. It was Exit? Mm-hmm.
I don't know. I might know the song if I heard it.
I just don't know. It sounded familiar. when I heard it, but it wasn't off that album that everybody has to have on their phone by YouTube.
No, it's not. No, different one. So, yeah.
So the defense. But the defense is like fucking stupid ass defense thing didn't work.
Stupid ass defense. Yeah, it didn't work because Marsha Clark is a bad bitch.
And the judge found Bardo guilty of capital murder.
And he was sentenced to life without the possibility of parolee.
Good. And then later on in jail, he got stabbed like 11 times.
Oh, shit. But he survived, which is a bummer.
Which is a bummer. He got stabbed like 11 times.
You said that with such like glee. Because he should be stabbed 11 times daily.
Yeah, that's fucked up. I can't say these things.
No, we can't. Well... I can. No one should be stabbed 11 times daily, but like if anybody deserves to be stabbed 11 times.
Yeah. Like, if we're talking in, like, you know, hypothetical, like, you know.
It's funny. I'm just saying. The only good that did come from the murder of Rebecca Schaefer were stricter laws regarding stalking.
Shortly after her death, a law was passed that prohibited the DMV from releasing addresses.
Oh good. And the LAPD put together the first threat management team.
Oh wow. Rebecca is remembered by those who love her, including her mother, who now does a live show remembering Rebecca's life and the day it ended.
That's fucking amazing. She puts... If you watch the 2020, she puts on like this... It's almost...
It's not improv, but it's like an improv kind of show.
Oh, that's cool. It's cool. It's like a one-woman show.
Yeah, it's a one-woman show, and it's so touching.
And, like, she's like, I got the call, and, like, she describes getting the phone call and all that.
Oh, my God. But she like also describes Rebecca like moving to New York and then moving to Hollywood.
Oh my God. That must be the most heart wrenching.
Yeah. Show. I have chills right now. Like.
Yeah, I have chills just thinking about that.
Like, describing your child. Like, their success...
Climbing up the ladder, making it, and then this awful fucking tragedy that happens to them.
Ugh. Yeah. I can't even. She's a bad bitch for being able to... She's such a bad bitch.
For one, doing that, like keeping Rebecca's... Her name is Dana.
Like her memory alive. keeping her like success like living somewhere and I think that's the whole reason that she wanted to do it plus I'm sure it's like Somewhat cathartic.
I mean, it must be. It has to be like just to go over that over and over again.
Must be. It has to be. be some form of therapy for.
Yeah. But holy shit. So that is the big old bummer case of Rebecca Schaefer.
RIP Rebecca Schaefer. R.I.P. Seriously.
That's a real bummer. They said that at her funeral.
There was like a shit ton of people there.
Oh, I'm sure. And they put the... casket next to her mom and somebody said that her mom didn't take her hand off the casket the entire like ceremony Oh, my God.
Isn't that gut-wrenching? Stab me right in the chest.
Right in the chesticles. That was really sad.
That hurts. I know. Wow, fuck that guy. And, like, fuck that guy for, like, taking little bits and pieces from other shitbags who've done that.
And saying that YouTube possessed you. Like, fuck you you fucking too yeah you too and you know what that's just taking from other people too it's just being like oh i'm just gonna take little bits and pieces from all these other psychos But I will say, obviously, there's something wrong.
He clearly was, I mean, he's a shit stain.
But he was obviously failed. I think he might have later been diagnosed with schizophrenia.
Yeah, see, so he was... So he was failed...
Many times over by many different situations and people, which is not an excuse.
Yeah, not an excuse, but I do also want to recognize that.
But yeah, that like mental health stuff is no joke.
Like you can't fucking ignore it, man. No, and that's the thing.
Don't fucking ignore even the littlest thing.
Yeah. Like that's even as like absurd as it sounds like I'm so in love with this celebrity, like I'm going to go meet them.
Like, yeah, you can't let your friends do that.
Yeah, you have to be like, unless it's a meet and greet.
Do you want to sit down and like talk about what this is?
Like, do you like at least talk to people?
Try to communicate with them. That's the issue now. people just like don't yeah people don't want to get into that shit and it's like but if he's writing you know he's talking to his sister about how pissed he is about this love scene that should have been i mean If my brother or if you were like, I'm truly pissed and this actor I love is now.
But obviously something is wrong. is now an asshole because he had a love scene on screen I'd be like can we sit down and just talk about this?
And like, do you should see someone? Cause that's a problem.
Oh, the only thing that I will say about his sister, I think she lived in like Tennessee.
Yeah. But still. But still, it's like, dude, just... And I'm not... Again, I'm not saying it's anybody else's fault.
No. But I'm saying, like... There was a lot of people who should have.
Who failed to act when they should have acted here.
Like, you can't buy somebody a gun. Yeah.
That is... No, you can't. Said the things that he said and struggled with the struggles he struggled with.
Many moving parts usually go into these kind of scenarios.
100%. And when somebody is seemingly having a mental break of some sort and you see that there is some mental health issues going on. when they want you to buy them a gun don't yep don't do that two when they start talking about a person that they're obsessed with who is, you know, be it a celebrity or other people.
Or common folk. Or common peasants like us.
You know, maybe don't let them fly somewhere or go somewhere to show up at their house with said gun.
Yeah, just do everything in your power to not let that happen.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's asking too much from me.
No morbid tip. Like, I hope no one gets mad at us for that, but you know, like I feel, I feel pretty confident saying that that's, those are good tips.
Yeah, right? Totally. Yeah. Don't stalk people, guys.
Don't stalk people. Don't keep it that weird.
Don't. You can stalk our Instagram. Yeah, at Morbid Podcast.
You can follow our Twitter. A Morbid Podcast.
You could write us a listener story for Gmail.
And keep doing it because we got so many and they're amazing. morbidpodcast at gmail.com join make sure to put listener stories in the title you're all doing really well at that thank you really helping me organize them so thank you for that so appreciative so appreciative also you could join the facebook group i love it Love it.
Morbid colon a true crime podcast. Donate to the Patreon if you have an extra dollar.
Patreon.com slash morbid podcast. and check out the website that my lovely co-host We hope you keep listening.
And we hope you keep it weird. But not so weird that you start stalking somebody and then show up to Warner Brothers with a teddy bear and then you turn the teddy bear into a knife and then you... find their house because that's really wrong wrong wrong and then just fucking read Catcher in the Rye if you haven't already because you're a phony if you haven't and but don't bring it anywhere with you to do any bad things because I bet JD Salinger is so sick of that.
Don't keep it that weird. Bye. Janie Salinger is sick of that shit.
I'm sick of that shit. He's had enough of your shit.
Is he dead? Yeah. Cool. Bye. Bye. Thank you.
If you like Morbid, you can listen early and ad free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.
Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music.
Before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short survey at wondery.com slash survey.