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Part two of the Lululemon murder. We hope you didn't Google it and spoil it for yourselves.
I saw a bunch of people talking on the Facebook group and Instagram saying that they were real mad that it ended where it ended and that they weren't going to Google it.
So good job, guys. We just like to leave you on little cliffhangers.
It's fun for us. And this is just such a crazy case that it's one of those that I hope people waited and didn't Google because...
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Do it. On a roof, just anywhere. Yeah. Live your life.
Do it. You better work, bitch. You better work.
So without further ado, I think we should get into part two.
Of this crazy ass face. You think so? I don't know.
Maybe we should hang out a little longer.
No, people are like, fuck you, Ash. Just kidding.
All right. So when we left off last time.
Where did we leave them? We left you guys with Brittany coming into the police station.
And the two detectives on the case decided that they were going to try to see if she was going to lie about smaller details.
Right, right. To kind of cement the idea that they think she's lying about a lot of this stuff.
So that's when they had already found a bunch of blood and DNA in Jaina's car. which was parked three blocks away from the Lululemon store.
That DNA and blood belonged to Brittany.
Mm-hmm. So they bring her in. They ask her, have you ever seen Jaina's car?
And she's like, maybe once. I don't know.
I don't know. Then they say, have you ever been in Jaina's car?
No way. She's never given you a ride somewhere?
Nope. Never. I've never been in that car.
So immediately they are like, boom. Liar.
So that's where we left you. So now, after this, they're like, well, shit.
We need to get her to confess or something because this is looking crazy and there's really nothing to point to to say that she absolutely did it, but...
Everything's starting to look that way. But we don't have that smoking gun that's going to tell us.
I mean, she's lying. She was in her car.
We know this now. How can we use this to get her to confess?
So then Brittany out of nowhere. So they're trying to figure out how to get her to come back in to talk.
And Brittany... is the one that's like, hey, guys, I have something else to say.
Can I come back in? Criminals are always like, I swear this happens in so many cases.
It does. to figure it out and then they come in because they just like want they can't stop talking sometimes no they just it's like they want to keep and with her I feel like it's like She just kept wanting to tell this story.
Yeah. And you'll see why. So... Out of nowhere, she tells the police she'd like to come back in because she wants to tell them some things that she forgot to mention in their other interview.
It just came back to her. She was like, it just popped into my head.
So she comes back in and she comes back in with her sister Marissa and her older brother Chris with her.
And she's like, oh, actually, it occurred to me last night when I went to sleep that that I have in fact been in Jaina's car.
In fact, I drove it the night of the murder.
Whoa. How the... I'm sorry. How the fuck would you forget that?
But I love that she... Oh, you know... I have been in that car.
Actually, I drove it somewhere on the night that she got like that gruesome. some night where I remember every detail of them dragging me by my hair this that and the other thing Them placing me on her body.
But I forgot to mention that they also had me drive her car somewhere.
Yeah. Like she remembered that when one of the guys like zipped up his jacket, it made a swishy sound, like swishy material.
Yeah. She remembered that moment. But she didn't remember driving a dead woman's car.
Yeah, no big deal, idiot. Yeah, that's fine, Brittany.
So she says that the masked men, before they sexually assaulted her and tied her up, made her move Gina's car from the front of the store to the place where it was found, three blocks away.
She said they told her they were watching her do it and if she tried to alert for help that they would kill her.
Perfect. How does that make any sense? We're going to watch you drive it three blocks away?
There's two masked men. one of them doesn't go with you to make sure that you don't run away in the car that's three blocks away, and they're gonna watch you the whole time?
That makes perfect sense to me. What are you confused about?
And it's like, why? So these two guys are going to sit there and just watch you drive down the street.
If you take a right instead of a left, what the fuck are they going to do?
Run after the car? Yes. No, they're going to be standing there being like, well, shit, with their thumbs up their asses.
Well, like, are you just going to stand outside the store like in their masks?
Well, Jane is inside the store. Just like have a quick smoke.
Yeah. Like, picture that. Like, Brittany, you're stupid.
Come up with some better shit here. Like, what is wrong with you?
And of course, this is the most absurd story you or anyone has ever heard.
The detectives, of course, were like, well, why wouldn't you just keep driving?
And maybe go to the police or something.
Didn't she say that she saw a policeman?
Oh, yeah. And she said that they told her they knew where she lived, so she was too scared.
To drive anywhere. So they also know where you live now.
And it's like, but if you drove away to a police station and were like, hey...
At the Lululemon store back there, there's two dudes waiting for me to come back.
Can you maybe come with me? They would just arrest them.
Right. And then it wouldn't matter if they knew where you lived, because they'd be arrested.
Right. So, like... Britney. Like, no. Brit.
Yeah. Sis. Now, she then claims that she walked from the place she parked Jaina's car three blocks away Back to the store.
And not one person saw the gaping flush wound on your fucking forehead?
Well, that's... So detectives asked her, they're like, did you pass anyone on the street? because you were bloodied and clearly in distress, and she said, oh yeah, I passed people.
But no one noticed how haggard and beat up she looked.
Yeah. No one asked. They were like, did anyone ask, like, yo, you all right?
Did anyone say anything? She was like, nope, no one said anything.
She's like, we live in a community of dickwads.
Yeah, apparently. So, Brittany should never write thriller novels because, holy shit, this story...
Has so many plot holes in it. Yeah. Girl.
It's unraveling. Like readers would be like, no, Brittany.
Sorry, I'm done reading now. No. After having her go through this story once again, like the whole story, because they were like, now we want to hear you say the whole thing again.
Right. And kind of like sussing out that she was clearly reciting a rehearsed tale at this point because she really was down to the detail every time.
Like, she could tell you every little minute thing and it never changed.
Right. Which... It's weird when things do change, but it's even weirder when things are like...
To the letter. Bing, bang, boom. It's like her note cards fell out of her sleeve.
Her index cards. Exactly. And she's like, whoops.
She's like, and then the... What's that word?
It smudged. They started asking her then if she wanted to get something off her chest.
They were like, do you have anything you'd like to tell us?
Anything weighing on you? If you watch the show that we mentioned in part one on oxygen, you can see this whole interview.
Oh, yeah. And it's crazy. So she refused.
She was like, nope, don't have anything.
But they kept pressing. It's chilling how calm and collected she is.
And how quickly she turns on waterworks and can like sob and whimper and show this, like she's recalling this awful event that happened to her. and it's so creepy too because like a lot of times when you picture like a brutal murderer you're picturing like this scary ass dude And she's, like, this little, tiny, like, petite girl.
Like, pretty. Yeah. In, like, a jumper or, like, a tracksuit.
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And they even tried different tactics, like straight up saying, we know you're lying.
We caught you. You did it. And she's still saying, nope.
And then they're trying to be like kind and gentle with her and saying like, I know it's hard.
You know, Jaina probably got you upset or angry.
You snapped. It's okay. It happens. What did she do to make you do that?
Like, kind of... And she's like, no. And she's like, nope, I didn't do it.
I told you what happened. And they did this for a while.
So... Like we said, she came to the police station with her older brother, Chris, and her sister, Marissa.
And the detectives soon decided that they were going to bring them in to see if it helped her confess.
Right. Because sometimes when your family's around you, you feel less likely to be like, nope.
So Marissa, her sister, like immediately lost it when presented with evidence that showed that Brittany was likely lying.
Yeah. So she was actually taken out of the room because she was just like, she lost it.
She was like, are you? Because I think in her head, she's like, she fucking did this.
My little baby sister. Yeah. So the detectives kind of worked on convincing Chris that the evidence was pointing to her being the killer.
They were presenting him with everything.
Chris was kind of coming back with some things being like, well, maybe no, like maybe this doesn't work.
Right. And they would just be like, no, Chris, like this is how it is.
ABCD happened. And they were just kind of telling him like, we're not wanting this to be how it is.
It is what it is. They're like, the facts are here.
Here's the facts. We don't want this to be the answer.
But it is. But it's the fucking answer. So...
And Brittany the whole time is denying or staying silent.
Right. She's sitting there looking down.
She's like... Clearly having a moment of like inner turmoil.
That's when the detectives were like, you know what?
We're going to leave the room. And Chris is like, can I talk to her?
You know, I always wonder if people realize when the detectives leave the room that they're still on camera.
Oh, that's the best part of this. I know.
The whole time she's sitting there being like, are they recording us?
Do you know that they're not? And Chris is like, yeah, no, they're not at all.
And it's like, what? You really don't think that...
You were in a police station. Of course you're being recorded.
That part, I'm like, really? You're in a police station interrogation room.
So the detectives leave, and they allow Chris to speak with her.
Now, the recording of this is... crazy and in the book murder in the yoga store that i mentioned last week or last episode There are direct quotes from this conversation between the two of them, and this is how some of it went.
And in the Oxygen series, you see a little snippet of it.
Yeah. So Chris straight up asks her, did you do this?
And she repeatedly says no, she didn't want to talk about it.
And she says, I don't want to talk about it here. which is confessing, which is, uh, Chris keeps reminding her that they're not going to let you go.
Because she's like, I don't want to talk about it here.
I just want to go home. I'll talk to you at home.
And he's like, oh, sis, you're not going home.
Like they are not. letting you out of here.
That's the other thing. At one point, she looks at the detectives and she's like, can I just go home?
You really think he's going to be like, you know what, girl?
You've had a long, hard day. Go home and think about it some more. take a nap come back when you're ready go home think of a better story and then come back in here and give us a better go home run away yeah Skip town.
They're not letting you leave, lady. And so Chris is like, yeah, you're not leaving here, I'm fairly certain.
So you might as well start talking. So Brittany says, I just don't want anyone to be disappointed in me.
Honey, you brutally fucking murdered someone.
That ship has sailed. It's in another continent.
It has hit an iceberg. iceberg and it is at the bottom of the ocean it is breaking in half as we speak it's gone It is now pieces of it are being pulled up and presented as the big piece.
It is gone. It's gone. No longer to be here.
Are you kidding me? Like you killed somebody with like several different weapons.
Yeah. Stabbed them and like hurt them with over 330 wounds.
Yeah. You don't want anyone to be disappointed in you.
Maybe you should have thought of that. Girl, I don't even know you and I'm very disappointed in you.
I was just going to say that. Like, I'm hella disappointed.
So disappointed. So Chris says... In contrast to what we are saying, no one's disappointed in you.
That's a bold-faced lie. Which I'm like, Chris.
Chris, you're disappointed. I know you are.
Be honest with me. You're at least a little fucking bummed.
I'd be disappointed in you. I fucking hope so.
I'd be disappointed in you. And I would fucking tell you that.
I'd be like, I don't know her. Like if this was this scenario, I'd be like, Ash, I'm real fucking disappointed in you.
You're like, we had a podcast and now we can't podcast. we can't podcast anymore they won't let you podcast from jail well and he says we're your family No matter what, we're going to be here for you.
Everything he just told me, and I didn't look like I was convinced, but that is really fucking convincing.
You're going to have to just tell me so I can at least try to get you out of here.
This is going to get a hell of a lot fucking worse.
So Chris is literally like, yeah, I know I acted like I did not believe what that detective was saying to me.
I believe it. But he fucking convinced me that you did it.
And I know you did it. You need to tell me.
So she apologizes. She keeps saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
And he's like, stop apologizing. Just tell me what the fuck happened.
Well, because I don't give a fuck that you're sorry.
Your apology's done. Yeah. Your apologies mean nothing.
There's absolutely nothing you can do. No.
So then he says, why'd you do it? And she says she doesn't know what happened.
And then he asked... Was it shoplifting?
Were you trying to steal? Which the fact that that was the first fucking thought that came out of his mouth, it was like, you fucking thief.
You were stealing. He's like, you're a known thief.
Yeah. So she says, no. Liar. And he says... then why did you fight this girl you tell me I can think on my feet but I need information before I can do that oh now i feel so bad for him he's like the best big brother he is but then he says something that i'm like jesus chris like god that's not helping anybody am i going to take my statement away now you are yeah great so also why did you fight this girl Yeah, this isn't like a playground fight.
They did not fight. They did not fight. Brittany savagely attacked this girl.
This girl did not, she tried, she probably fought for her life.
Yeah. They did not fight. Yeah. This is not like, why'd you fight her?
No. No. Why'd you brutally fucking murder her.
Why'd you literally come up behind and like sucker punch her in the back of a head with a fucking metal rod?
That's what that's about. And... Dude, if that's your response to being caught shoplifting, what is wrong with you?
Like, shit. What happened to your temporal lobe?
So what happens is Brittany keeps asking, can they hear us in here?
Are we being recorded? Are you sure? And Chris is like, no, they're not.
And he keeps saying, I've looked. I've looked the whole time we're in here.
There's no recording devices. Chris. Baby.
Chris. Boy, you're in an interrogation room.
Honey. I don't even have a response for that simplicity.
When I saw it, I was just like... Yo, there's definitely, do you really think the recording device is just going to be like on the wall with a plaque that says like recording device right here?
It's like when you're in the store and it's like, you're on camera, smile.
Yeah, exactly. They should do that. They should do that.
Missed opportunity. Truly. So Chris says, so what happened?
You don't have to give me details. Just tell me what happened.
Was the whole thing planned or did... And she interrupts him and says, no, not at all, Chris.
Which it was, you fucking asshole. Yeah.
So Chris says, so what did she do? Tell me what she did to get you to fight her.
So now her big brother is sitting there going, what did this girl do to make you do that?
How is this her fault? What did poor Jaina do to make you stab her and beat her 331 different times over like a 20 minute period?
Yeah. What'd she do to deserve that? Yeah.
I can tell you what she did. Uh, nothing.
Fucking nothing, because no one does anything to deserve that.
Like, Jesus Christ, dudes. So Brittany says, I really forgot my wallet.
Cool. That's a great piece of the story.
Cool, Brittany. And then Chris says, I believe that.
Did she accuse you of shoplifting? Is that what this is about?
Yes. So he's still on that angle of like, I know you stole shit.
You're a known motherfucking thief. Brittany says, I didn't take anything.
Lies. Chris says, okay, listen. Here's what we're gonna do.
We're going to have to get you a defense attorney.
We have two options. There's temporary insanity, but you've talked to too many people.
You've talked to counselors and people know that you're not insane.
That's not going to work. You're going to have to be very honest with us and the attorney.
We're going to have to try to concoct some sort of plan like she attacked you.
But that doesn't look good because you tried to cover it all up.
Oh, God. Oh, so he's like, which, OK. He's her big brother.
But I understand that family, you're going to try to do anything to help family.
But it's like, dude. This is different.
You also have to look at this and be like, my little sister didn't just like, and I'm not saying this is not a bad thing, like didn't just like shoot someone in a passionate rage you know what i mean that's really bad too but she literally savagely To the point where... This is beyond brutal.
To the point where people believed that two masked men murdered this girl.
Right. Because it was so brutal that two masked men make sense.
Because they were like, there's no way that one little peanut girl is capable of this. and it's like and you're telling her we have to pretend that this poor girl whose life you fucking ended brutally was the one who attacked you and made you have to do... Like, come on, dude.
You can't do that. No. Like, you have to think there's another family here.
Yes, this is my family. You can't just think about defending your own family.
But my family took away someone else's family in a brutal way. done like you have to at least sit there and be like we gotta be honest here you gotta tell me what happened like I'll be here for you But no, I'm not going to help you fucking lie about this dead girl that you killed.
Like, sorry, I'm not going to do that. You would never do that.
No, that's crazy. So then she, Brittany starts sobbing and saying she didn't know what to do, which is, she's like, I just didn't know what to do.
I just didn't know what to do, which is silly because like, Do anything else besides kill this woman with up to 10 different crude weapons and almost 400 wounds.
Just go home. You didn't know what to do?
Don't do that. I don't understand. That's just a stupid thing to say.
Like if you do literally anything else, spit on her.
I don't care what you do. Just don't do that.
No. That's the one thing you don't do is murder the person.
It's pretty simple. You learn that very early in life that the one thing you don't do is murder people.
That's just what you don't do. Kindergarten, day one.
Don't murder people. That's what they learned.
That it's not an I didn't know what to do thing.
It's being a brutal and cold-blooded murderer as well.
She's just a fucking monster. You knew exactly what to do, in fact.
So once she started talking about it, Chris says...
She came to let you in, right? Then what?
What did she say? So Chris is just trying to get her like, tell me what is going on here.
Yeah, like set this up for me. Brittany says she told me that she was going to make sure our manager knew or something.
And Chris says, the manager knew what? That you were shoplifting?
He's like, just fucking admit it because everybody in this family knows you're a thief.
Just say it. And Brittany says, but I wasn't.
And Chris says, had you stolen from that store before?
So obviously this is something she does.
And Brittany says, never, Chris. Honestly, I was doing good.
I mean, as far as. And then she trails off.
So then Chris is just trying to get his thoughts together.
You can tell he's literally... And I do feel bad that he is literally like torn between like, holy shit, this is the most horrifying thing I've ever heard.
And this is my little sister. So it's like, ah.
So Chris says, now listen, this is where...
This is where I'm like, Chris, you're doing a lot more harm than good.
You're not coming off good. And yes, you are being recorded.
Chris says, now listen, you've done it three times.
When the cops ask you a question, you're looking down and you're looking to your left. that means you're lying.
If you're going to lie when you talk to them, find something in the room.
See that red button on the wall? Look at that red button every time.
Do not look at anything else. I watched you.
Every time your head drops down to your left, that immediately tells everyone that you're lying.
And then he whispered, I lie all the time, so I know these things, okay?
Bro! And it's like, oh, okay. So I see what's happening here.
Good. Good. Awesome. Not looking good for Brittany here.
I lie all the time. I lie all the time. So I know these things.
What the fuck? And he's literally telling her, okay, that's fine.
You can lie all about this, but just make sure you're convincing.
Dude, humans are so scary. They really are.
So Brittany was arrested. Yeah. Obviously.
Because the entire time the detectives...
All of the like upper level officers and everything were all watching this.
They're watching this like it's fucking. bachelor in paradise there's like popcorn in the room like they're like all right they've like what's gonna happen now yeah brackets And yeah, so she gets arrested.
And when this all leaked out that it was her.
Bethesda was like, what the fuck? Yeah. Because this whole time they've been terrified.
I mean, like people in other stores, these like women are like, I'm not closing to I'm not doing this.
Like, I'm terrified that this is going to happen to me.
They had like 75 people closing Lululemon.
And they've all been rallying behind this poor girl who lived through this.
Yeah. And now they're like, wait a second.
It was fucking her? Like she did it? So Jaina's family found out about this arrest and the confession on the way to her funeral.
No, that's awful. And they had never even heard of Britney before all this.
Like they only heard of her when this happened.
Right. And so the fan, I guess Jaina's family even was like, they felt awful for Brittany.
Yeah. And then they wanted to like send her flowers in the hospital from them to be like, we're so sorry this happened to you we're so sorry that you had to live through this and like thank you for being trying to save Jaina meanwhile But they didn't because Brittany said she didn't want any flowers.
So they were like, so they were like horrified that they had even felt anything for this bitch.
So Brittany spent seven months in prison waiting trial.
During this time, they obviously recorded her phone calls.
And what they can, what all the detectives say is all her phone calls are all obsessed with her hair and her nails.
That's like all she cares about is looking good.
Are you kidding me? Yeah. And they were like, that's literally all she cared about was like that.
She wanted her nails done. She wanted her hair done.
Like that was her problem was like, I'm in prison and I don't look good.
And that's upsetting. Like, I don't think anybody looks that great in prison.
And I don't think anybody gives a fuck what you look like after you kill somebody brutally.
It's like... Maybe you should spend seven months thinking about what you did.
Yeah. And like maybe trying to be a better person.
Also, I hope you start to look on the outside like the monster you are on the inside.
Oh, seriously. Now, the state's attorneys and Jaina's family wanted to go for first degree murder because that was the max charge and this asshole deserves it.
Hell yeah. So they also wanted to push for life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Hell yeah, times two. Because they were like, this, she...
Is a sociopath. She is... She will do this again.
I mean, she will... And they said... Who's to say someone's not going to back her into a corner again?
Right. And this is what's going to happen.
This is what happens when she feels she has no other option, because we'll find out...
Something happened to make that will let you know what happened to make this occur.
She felt she had no other option. And apparently this was her only way to get out of what had happened.
Which I just like, that's what you're going to do.
Yeah. And it's like shit like that's going to happen all the time where you feel like you're You're kind of backed into a corner into something.
And her reaction is to brutally butcher someone.
You can't have that kind of person walking around on the street.
And one of the biggest reasons that Jaina's family wanted the full trial, because they were like...
Just so you guys know, like we could do a plea deal here and like you won't have to sit through a trial.
If you sit through a trial, you're going to hear what happened.
And it's going to be really bad. But Jaina's family were like, we need to know what happened.
I need to know. That's our baby. Yeah, like I need to know what happened that night.
And I need to have some kind of like closure to this.
Closure. Jaina's brother Hugh is quoted in the book that I spoke about earlier as saying when he walked into the courtroom and saw Brittany for the first time, he said, quote, The first time I saw Brittany, I remember thinking, she's a small girl.
She's a sorry piece of shit. Hell yeah. And she is a sorry piece of shit.
So it turns out she had been fired from a Lululemon in Georgetown.
And she was suspected of shoplifting there.
So she has a long history of this. Now, the Lululemon store she worked for in Bethesda was actually planning to fire her.
They had a whole thing ready. They were just waiting for her to get caught in the act of shoplifting.
Do you know how hard it is to fire somebody?
Well, that's the problem. And they were worried because they had gone to upper management and they had said, you know...
All these girls that she's working with, all their stuff is going missing.
They're missing money. They're missing things out of their purses.
And it's only when Brittany is on shift.
And some of them had even caught her basically in the act.
A couple of them caught her going through their purses. a couple of them saw like one of them was missing some fancy perfume and And Brittany had commented on it that she liked that perfume.
And then it went missing during their shift.
And suddenly she saw it in Brittany's bag.
Dude, I don't understand people that steal.
Like I've known people that have stolen, never from me, but like in general, like I've worked with people who have stolen things.
And it's just make your own money and buy your own things like every fucking other person does.
That's what drives me crazy is like with stealing and like robbers and stuff that like it's like.
Fuck you, man. Yeah. Like, that's my shit.
Especially, like, something petty like perfume.
Yeah, like, go buy your own perfume. Like, I'm sure it's expensive, but like...
Put one paycheck aside if you really want something, fucking work for it like everybody else does.
Exactly. That's the thing. It's like, you want that perfume?
Yeah, it's expensive. Work your ass off and get it.
Because also... It's gonna feel a hell of a lot better.
That's the thing. When you buy it yourself.
Yeah. When you earned it and you work hard for something.
It feels so much better. Like fuck yeah it does.
I can like see me like screaming on this.
We're getting really heated about this. So yeah, Brittany was being watched at this store.
She was already on... They had all this stuff against her and they were just waiting for her to get caught, like literally red handed.
And actually a couple of days before the murder, all the managers had met together and had talked about this whole thing.
And they were like, You know what? When she gets caught red-handed, she gets fired.
Right. That's it. Because upper management had said, you got to catch her.
If you catch her, fire her. Because Lululemon doesn't have, like we said, surveillance videos.
So they couldn't catch it that way. Somebody had to witness it.
One of the worst parts is that all the managers feel really awful because Jaina just happened to be there the night she was caught.
That night, Jaina caught her stealing yoga pants that night of the murder and told her she was going to have to tell Rachel, the manager.
It just happened to be that Jaina was the one that was there that night.
It could have been any of the other managers.
Now, even worse was Jaina was not supposed to work that night.
No shifts with another manager. oh my god who that other manager is probably sitting there being like that would have been me yeah that's so scary how terrifying would that be So they so I think at Lululemon, what they did was you check each other's bags.
Like if there's two people on shift, each of you checks the other one's bag.
Yeah, so that's what they did. Jaina found the yoga pants.
Brittany, so she was like, did you pay for these?
Like, the tags are on. Right. In this no receipt.
Right. Where's your receipt? And she goes, Brittany said, well, I bought them from, and it was the specific other manager.
She was like, I bought them from her. Right.
Yeah. So Jaina called this other manager and was like, did Brittany buy these from you early?
And she goes, nope. And she was like, caught her.
I did not buy. I did not sell her those.
They also looked it up in the computer and the transaction was not in the computer.
Never happened. So she stole them. So what had happened was Brittany, they went there... When they went there... Because I think...
And after that, they were going their separate ways.
And Jaina was like, we'll deal with this tomorrow.
I'm going to talk to Rachel, the manager, and like she'll deal with you.
Right. I don't know what to tell you. Then they went their separate ways.
Okay. That's when Brittany called back and was like, whoops, I forgot my wallet.
So she lured Jaina back there. 100%. And that's why she probably said to her brother, I really did forget my wallet.
I really did because she knows. I don't believe she forgot her wallet.
Premeditated. Yep. You drove... You walked away.
And then this little thought popped into your mind.
And you sat there and said... Gotta do something about this.
I'm gonna get her back in that store and I'm gonna fucking brutally murder her And you're killing somebody, like this is so horrible to even like say out loud, but you're literally killing somebody over a fucking pair of yoga pants.
A pair of Lululemon fucking yoga pants You horrible shit stain It's like dude just take your licks Get fired Move on.
It's ridiculous. Go to fucking Theft Anonymous or whatever it's called.
It's called. Well, because former teammates of Brittany's, because remember, she was like a huge athlete in high school and college.
Former teammates of hers remember hers having a reputation as a liar and a thief.
Oh good. And they all came out later and were like, oh yeah, like that's who she is.
Girls on the team would tell new girls, keep your stuff locked up because Brittany's known to steal shit.
Like they would literally tell them this girl, Leanna used, um, talk to the Washington post about, She said she was actually best friends with Brittany in college, but they parted ways because she was stealing.
Like, she was like, we literally aren't friends.
We were best friends. We're not friends anymore because she stole shit from me.
Dude. And she said, quote, she was my best friend in college.
We had a falling out because the girl was like a klepto.
She is a fucking klepto. She is. Then...
This other story came out. It was a hairstylist who posted, and it was not Ash.
Not me. She posted a comment online somewhere saying that Brittany had not paid for a full weave that was put in her hair.
How does that even happen? Well, that's the thing.
At first, I was like, how does that happen?
Right. You're in the salon. You check out.
Well... She said, this is what she said, quote, At the end of her service, she claimed that someone in the salon had stolen her money out of her wallet.
I was devastated that this could happen at my workplace, so I immediately told her not to worry about payment at that time.
As the time went on, Brittany called me to say that she would bring the money for the hair in.
She never showed up with the money and later deleted me from her Facebook page.
Are you kidding me? What a piece of ass.
And the owner of the salon said that, confirmed this happened.
Are you kidding me? And said... Brittany threw a huge fit in the salon saying that all that was like the employees stole from her and She knows it.
And she said she had more than a thousand dollars that had been stolen out of her purse.
Why the fuck are you carrying $1,000 in cash?
And she said that she had left the purse in the salon's waiting room area, the reception area.
And she was like, so someone stole it out of there while it was there.
But the receptionist had been sitting there the entire time.
Right. And the receptionist was like, that purse never moved.
And also, I'm sorry, why are you leaving your purse in the reception area?
No one in my salon has ever left their bag in the reception area.
You leave it there so that you can pull this big con.
Yeah, she went in there planning that. Yeah.
So this is all starting to make sense. That's also so shitty because it takes a really long time.
I mean, I've never put a weave in somebody's hair, but it takes a long time.
And then you're just not going to... And you're just not going to pay for it.
Because you want it. Well, and that's... It's like the stealing thing that you're like, fuck you, man.
Earn your shit. Right. You want to weave in your hair?
Pay for a fucking weave in your hair. You don't get someone else's talents and time and energy to put that shit in your hair.
That girl spent $20. plus thousand dollars learning yeah how to put weaves and like do people's hair and you're gonna take her time and And also you blocked off that section of time in your book for somebody and now anybody else could have been there that was going to pay for their fucking service.
Exactly. Oh, I'm hyped. She's making you mad.
So this is all starting to come together now that this is Brittany.
That she sucks. This is who she is. Now, then there's a really big part of her past that you're like, oh.
Another one? I'm starting to see that she's a little off.
So she dated this guy in 2007. I believe he was like a dentist.
And I think they dated for like a little over a year.
Well, when they broke up, He claimed she had physically assaulted him, like, on the reg.
What? He was like, I'm not, like, you know, she used to, like, hit, kick. punch me like she was really volatile.
Jesus Christ. And so then... When they broke up, she started stalking him and his new partner, like mercilessly.
And this can sound like crazy ex behavior.
You're just like a crazy ex that's like not over it.
No, you shouldn't ever stalk anybody. No, it's never.
It's not. normal. I'm saying, like, but you've heard these stories.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then she did something wild.
Well... Then she broke into his house. Not normal.
That's not, that's not ex-behavior. She kept her keys in the alarm code when they broke up. broke into his home that he shared with his new girlfriend.
And the new girlfriend filed a claim to DC Superior Court Domestic Violence Unit.
That Britney stole a Movado watch, clothing, money, jewelry, I think a cell phone.
What? Like all these other things out of the home.
When she was in there. And then they both filed a restraining order on her, which they got.
Yeah. And because they both said like, we are actually scared she's going to hurt us.
Like, I'm scared she's going to break in and kill us in the middle of the night.
I believe that. She probably would have.
And they got the restraining orders. Well, two weeks after getting the restraining order, she already violated it.
You want to know why? Because they both saw her watching them From a car parked in an alley behind the dentist's office.
She was literally sitting in her car staring up at them.
Dude, this bitch is crazy. I'm saying, oh, and then she followed them home.
When they left that day, because they were like, we got to get the fuck up out of here.
They left. She followed them home. When they got home, they called the police and she was like brought back up on charges.
Are you kidding me? She's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
She's a cuckoo nut man. A crazy cuckoo nut man lady.
And in 2008, an arrest warrant was out for her because of this.
Are you fucking shitting me? Yeah. Damn, I never knew.
I've heard this case covered before and I don't ever think I've heard that.
I found this last part I found in the book.
Wow. Yeah. The two other instances I found like some articles like in the Washington Post article And one other article.
But, yeah, this one I found in the book.
Because, again, read this book because he has a lot of detail in it.
He goes into way detail. And this was so interesting to me.
Oh, my God. Yeah. So the trial lasted, I believe, like six or seven days.
And it included the Apple employees recounting how they callously ignored sounds of a death struggle.
Yeah, they suck. And the judge, like, chastised them for that later.
Was like, you were callous and cold and you should hang on to that for the rest of your life.
I was going to say, I hope you spend the rest of your life hearing that and seeing it.
And now knowing what you ignored. Yeah. Assholes.
And Britney's attorneys played the she just went nuts and lost control.
No, honey, she's been nuts. They were hoping for murder, too.
They were not playing the she didn't do this.
Because there's no way. They were like, she did do this.
Right. But she lost control. It was a crime of passion.
She was angry. No. She lost it. And so they were kind of hoping she was going to get, like...
Not insanity because she wouldn't get that, but she was maybe going to get put in a hospital or something and like get out.
So the way that the prosecution described the crime was that Jaina was likely hit in the back of the head with a steel clothing rod.
That's how this began. She was probably hit in the back of the head, totally sucker punched.
Oh, my God. And then she had run towards the front of the store and was caught by Brittany.
Which is probably how the television got tipped over and why her jacket was found on the floor.
And there were also clumps of Gina's hair on the floor in the front.
And Jaina's bloody handprints were on the wall.
So there was obviously a struggle to get her back into the back of the store.
So now Jaina ran to the back door, probably, which was at the end of the narrow hallway that she was found dead in.
Right. Her bloody handprint was on the handle, like the push thing.
Yeah. So she must have just been stopped like right as she was getting to it.
No. This is where Brittany trapped her and literally savagely beat her and stabbed her to death in that hallway.
So now Brittany had to move Jaina's car from the front of the store because it was in a no parking zone.
Right. And she knew somebody was going to see that.
Right. At 1230 a.m., a cop saw someone sitting in Jaina's car three blocks from the store where it was found.
Brittany sat in that car for like, they said like over an hour.
Just sitting there? Coming up with her plan to make it.
Like what? Yeah. So now she goes back and she walked around in the blood with her own shoes to make prints.
Yeah. Before putting on the men's shoes and following her own footprints with them to make it look like this frenzied thing.
So then she washed off both shoes in the sink and put the men's shoes back on the shelf.
But she didn't realize her own shoelaces were soaked with blood.
And so she left marks that led to and from the sink.
Oh my God. Like the shoelaces like dragged.
Right. So then she threw all kinds of objects around, like clothing and everything, to make it look ransacked.
Because there was some chaos, but not nearly what they saw.
Right. Then she slashed up her own body with a razor.
Which is literally psychotic. She then tied herself up with zip ties and lay down with her arms above her head. which they immediately saw as weird when they found her because they were like, why wouldn't you put your arms down?
Why are your arms above your head? Right.
Like you wouldn't lay there all night with your arms above your head.
You'd be able to. You would bring them down in front of you just from.
You can. Yeah. So that was weird anyways, and now it makes sense.
The judge at trial said to her... quote, you're a hell of a liar, ma'am.
An entire community was terrorized because of you.
And apparently when closing arguments happened, they were describing for over an hour, blow by blow, what happened to Jaina.
And her family was just... demolished obviously her dad is this like huge dude he was a special forces soldier at one point like huge tough guy you know what i mean He was literally sobbing and his shoulders were just like shaking.
Like he was just your baby. I can't even fathom.
No. Can't even fathom. I also don't understand how people can sit there and like not... go and brutally murder the person on trial.
I truly believe the family should have one shot.
Yeah, like new justice system. Whenever you see those scenarios where the family member jumps over to try to attack the person...
It should be loud. Once in a while you can see that like the bailiff and like the police and all that.
They pause. And you can tell in their heads they just want to, but they can't because they have to.
But you must, as that police officer, you must want to be like, I'm just gonna hesitate really quick just so they can get one punch in like I'm just gonna let them get one I mean I'm not a police officer and I never plan on being so I'm just gonna go ahead on the record and say that I would totally hesitate for at least five seconds like there's so many times where you're just like i think it happened in the larry nassar trial actually one of the fathers of two gymnasts he had two oh yeah yeah that was on the news and he dove over and tried and like and I guess like the police that were holding him down were saying like I'm so sorry Like, I'm so sorry.
Like, they were literally being like, I wish I could let you do this, dude.
Like, you know, they were like, I totally understand.
Because police have kids, too. Like, they know.
And they know it's a father. I couldn't imagine.
You can't just destroy somebody's life. In the end...
Brittany was found guilty of first-degree murder.
And in January 2012, the sentencing began.
Brittany herself gave a full statement of bullshit.
Of course. Apologizing and asking for mercy.
Please give me a chance. No. Like, give me a chance.
I'm busy that day. Fuck off. You had many chances.
And look what you fucking did with them.
Your whole life has been a chance. You're 28 years old.
Right. First of all, your whole fucking life has been a chance.
Right. And two, you didn't fucking give Jaina a chance.
Yeah. How about that? You didn't even talk to her.
You're not going to sit there and like, just be like, you're just like, she caught me.
So now I'm going to fucking brutally murder her.
She did her job. Right now I'm going to murder her.
And you didn't step back and take a fucking look in the mirror and go, what's wrong with me that I can't stop stealing?
Exactly. that should be it's this girl's fault yeah she needs to be taken like hit off that should be like a reflective moment where you're like what is my life what am i doing i'm 28 years old i'm gonna do this forever i'm stealing yoga pants like what am i doing and I hope she sits in her fucking jail cell every day and realizes that she brutally murdered someone over a pair of pants.
But I think to her, like, it's justified. yeah well and the judge called her a representation of the worst of human behavior And so he listened to her whole bullshit sob story and he was like, you suck.
Yeah, no. And he was like you're terrible.
And then he said quote after every blow you had a chance to think about what you were doing.
Instead you mutilated this woman. And that's the truth.
It's like, that must have taken at least 20 minutes.
I think, in fact, one thing I read, I don't know if it was in the book or in an article, was that the judge went home during one of the trial days, and he said that he took...
He took something and just like banged it on the table 331 times.
Yeah. And he said it took him like 10 minutes.
Of course it did. To get through that. And he was like, and that's me just stabbing down like over and over and over.
And she had to pause and get up. other things she was getting other things she was stabbing hitting and i'm sure they were in different spots of the the store like chasing holding down it's like ripping hair so this must have taken so long you had so long to stop this so long So in the end, she was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Bye, bitch. Rot, bitch! So, Jaina's brothers have made a foundation in her name that helps kids go to... a lot of the different things that she was involved in, like schools and camps and, like, all this other stuff.
And her brothers, I'm like, I just am like, you poor sweet angels.
Because... They both are, like, everything I've seen of them, they're such brothers.
Yeah. They want to, like, avenge her so bad.
But they obviously can't. And it's like, ugh.
And at the Lululemon in Bethesda, there is a memorial to her.
There's a picture of her up and like, I think she's like doing a yoga pose.
And there's a stained glass window with the word love in her honor.
It's so pretty. Yeah. And a couple of our listeners actually from there or her... been around there said that they've seen it and they were like it's beautiful like it's crazy so that is the story Of the Lululemon murder that ended up being not at all what anyone thought it would be.
I hope Britney looks haggard as fuck. She did look pretty fucking haggard in her mugshot.
I hope her nails look like shit. I hope her weave is out.
I hope so, too, because she doesn't deserve that weave.
She didn't pay for it. No, you didn't pay for it.
I hope that she doesn't get any colored pencils to do makeup in person.
Yeah. I don't want that. And I hope that her breath smells.
Yep. I also hope that. And I hope her mouth tastes like bad breath.
Ooh, yeah. Every day. I hope she has, like, constant coffee breath.
Like, old, stale coffee breath. Yeah. Yeah.
Yep. That's real bad. I hope she has a toothache, too.
Yeah, fuck that. You know what? I hope she has three toothaches.
Multiple toothaches. And an ear infection.
Yeah. and a sinus infection yes because that sucks and I hope that like you know how when you blow your nose a lot and your nose gets really rough and dry and it cracks and bleeds yeah it's always like that I hope she always has that.
Yeah. And that's what I hope for Brittany.
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