Hey weirdos, before we unleash today's macabre mystery, we were wondering, have you ever heard of Wondery Plus?
It's like a secret passage to an ad -free lair with early access to episodes.
You can join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or in Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
You're listening to a Morbid Network podcast. Listening on Audible helps your imagination soar.
Whether you listen to stories, motivation, motivation, expert advice, any genre you love, you can be inspired to imagine new worlds, new possibilities, and new ways of thinking.
Listening can lead to positive changes in your mood, your habits, and ultimately, your overall well -being.
Audible has an incredible selection of over one million audiobooks, podcasts, and Audible originals, all in one easy app.
Find the genres you love and discover new ones, explore bestsellers, new releases, plus thousands of included audiobooks, podcasts, and originals that members can listen to all with more added all the time.
Right now, I am listening to The Southern Book Club's Guide to Slaying Vampires by Grady Hendrix, and I just cannot get enough of it.
I never want to pause it.
I'm literally like loading the dishwasher listening to it, on the treadmill listening to it constantly.
It's so awesome. I love being able to listen anytime, anywhere I want to.
And there's more to imagine when you listen.
Sign up for a free 30 -day Audible trial, and your first audiobook is free.
Visit audible .com slash morbid.
Morbid is sponsored by Squarespace.
Squarespace is the all -in -one website platform for entrepreneurs to stand out and succeed online.
With Squarespace's collection of cutting -edge design tools, anyone can build a bespoke online presence that perfectly fits their brand or their business.
Start with Blueprint AI, Squarespace's AI -enhanced website builder, or get a fully customizable website in just a few steps using basic information about your industry, your goals, and personality to generate premium quality content and personalized design recommendations.
Squarespace gives you everything you need to offer services and get paid all in one place.
From consultations, events, and experiences, showcase your offerings with a customizable website designed to attract clients and grow your business.
Get paid on time with professional on -brand invoices and online payments, plus streamline your workflow with built -in appointment scheduling and email marketing tools.
Head to squarespace .com slash morbid for a free trial.
And when you're ready to launch, use offer code morbid to save 10 % off your first purchase of a website or domain.
first of all i have to let you guys know that we're bringing in behind the close curtain that we're going to open that curtain up like wiz um you guys are fulfilling something for me and fran we've been beefing for years now i guess years whenever i came on and guested had a great time but uh fran wasn't able to make it for scheduling reasons and he's been holding that over my head for since that time has happened he's been very aggressive and saying all kind of the passive aggressive things we've come to blows almost several times so it feels good to get a redo and have the full quartet here
and so I want to say thank you Fran please speak and let the people know that you're real it's yeah I am real uh it's an honor to be on here with you guys I would say the queens of true crime podcasting oh my god thank you yeah so um I gotta turn last time yeah I think the last time Alvin maybe hired somebody to like flat my tires so I couldn't that's why i didn't make it i'm happily i'm happy to be here though you guys i love that's what as soon as we got on i was like fran is here like the whole the whole crew is here we had so much fun collabing with alvin last time but we were like we we need
a friend something felt like it was missing a little bit it's his fault it's his fault let's blame it on him we'll blame it on alvin this took a turn i did not expect alvin why don't you just go let's just get out of here first of all we're in my house so i will not be forced out of my home this way um but yes again like like france said thank you guys for having us it's uh great to see you guys again um always a great time having the conversation with you guys individually and together i know that's been so fun too i know we've done a couple of those over the years yeah so um yeah yeah you guys
are you guys are cool peeps we try so are you right back at you this is a beautiful family right now why don't you get out of here suddenly turned them back on myself we can all be in this together we're a family stop arguing no i don't want the kids arguing uh but we you know what we've got something kind of wild to talk about today and i'm really excited about it a little bit because it's different it It is different than what we've done on our show.
Yeah, I felt like you guys would enjoy a conversation about a medieval tool of execution and how things come to an end.
You know, some, one day people just stopped planking.
Like one day a guy did a plank and then everybody was like, oh, that's not it anymore.
That's not cool. And so this is the execution version of that.
I felt like this is, it's always cool.
It's interesting to see when trends, you know, subside and this happened in in this case with the guillotine you know like tiktok sounds go out of style yeah stop they're like why are you using that sound don't use that sound yeah skinny jeans same exact dog going hell no hell no it's got like a couple more weeks left you know and then someday somebody's gonna do that and i'm like no no we don't do that anymore yeah gross this is the exact same thing and i think so what we're gonna be talking about today day and you're gonna be able to hear fran and alvin tell the story for the most part which is great because you're
gonna hear what amazing storytellers there are and it's gonna make you want to listen to this and then jump right over to their feed and start gobbling up everything that they have to offer so that's up to you guys of course but we do have a podcast called murder so if you like what we do here come check us out there's more there's room for you on the train it's trains trains podcast of trains yeah yeah i like trains we're the conductors trains planes automobiles yes boats all the way above however you get there we highly recommend it we don't we won't say we're we're not gonna force you over
there but we are highly suggesting by like shoving you as hard as we can over there yes but like gently you'll love it yeah yeah that's all you need to know so should we just should we go should we get into so let's let's go let's do it let's do this like little john okay um so let's start with like the history of the guillotine right that's yes so the guillotine's inception guys like many things in modern history is steeped in like rich white man smoking mirrors so one day this guy named um um his name was joseph ignis guillotine this was in 1789 he comes into a room and he's all like which basically
that was actual audio from that moment actually yeah we sourced it yeah very rare audio yes exactly that was a archival archival audio from the french parliament um but basically what he said was hey guys like the way we're killing Killing people is super, like, barbaric and gross and torturous.
And we need to, like, streamline this, clean things up.
Let's get more inundated in the future and leave that stuff in the past. And then he left the room and two less socially important people, poor people, then did all the hard work and invented the actual guillotine.
More specifically, their names were Tobias Schmidt and Antoine Louis.
we so but the the device is called the guillotine named after the rich guy named joseph ignis guillotine who just had an idea like loosely about cleaning up how people die and then they were like how about this and he's like that's fine put my name on it absolutely and i'll trademark it and patent it as well so they wanted to make something that's more barbaric and gross but like quicker disagree anybody who wants to look up like the western european modes of killing people before the guillotine straight up some of the craziest things i've ever heard of there was one there was a chair like a metal
chair that they would just put over fire and the chair would get really hot and then you just would burn to death on the chair that's you wouldn't die so then it's like everything basically before this was like we torture you for a long time and then we hit you over the head with a mallet yeah because you don't die we just torture you really bad they had another one they tie you to and then we put you out yeah they're like breaking on the rack was that breaking on the rack and they like break your bones like misery one by one just like slow as fuck turn you into like a scorpion essentially like
and then I feel like I feel that when we talk about it and it's like you stole some bread to the rack you go and then the rack wouldn't kill you and then they would like let the birds eat you slowly also I read that they would either also they would hit you in your chest with a hammer or your stomach because these were fatal blows, but over time.
So like, I think we burst your appendix when we hit you with this hammer in the stomach. So now you'll die in like three days from like stomach. They were like sepsis.
Yeah, you'll die eventually.
Yeah. But so yeah, but it's kind of it's kind of weird hearing the name now was like, we know his name, but it being named after a machine that was like beheading people was kind of crazy.
It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
It's like somebody named name was like name was like news or something exactly yeah that's that new simmons yeah wait what yeah you're like whoa wait a second but yes guillotine you think of the action and it's like no it's just some guy yeah had an idea guy's name yeah and some people say guillotine when i was younger everyone said guillotine and then it like switched over into guillotine i feel like yeah because we have this conversation all the time and how do you really say it i like float back and forth sometimes i'll revert to guillotine i think it might be i say guillotine though and i
always have yeah i might have made this up i have imposter syndrome so i'm like it it's french and i'm like i'm gonna say it french but if i was just being myself i would say guillotine because there's two else right yeah right i mean that's how it looks they both feel right yeah i don't think either is wrong i don't either it's all right not yeah if it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck it's a fucking duck so shut the fuck up you know absolutely certainly and it's a guillotine they weren't calling it gilly gilly hicks there you go that's a very deep cut reference i don't know if anybody
shopped at gilly hicks i used to work i worked i worked in the abercrombie umbrella so i was you know hell yeah shout out to gilly hicks gilly tbt shout out to gilly hicks no but as we all said all jokes aside though the guy even though he just had an idea the idea was you know steeped in some level of dignity and not torturing people people so the criminals of France's past should really thank this guy because like I said the stuff was very torturous it was it was could have been worse yeah you could have been melted on a chair for like punching your friend yeah from the butt up which is way
worse so um the guillotine or guillotine went on to become the symbol of the French revolution because the people saw it as this great equalizer because of the you know the ideas behind its inception people believe that that whether you were royalty or you came from the lowest of the low, the guillotine was the great equalizer.
Everybody who commits the same crimes, they die by the guillotine.
And this was enforced by the fact that Louis XVI and his wife, Marie Antoinette, ever heard of her?
Queen. Literally. Literally.
They were both beheaded during the French Revolution.
The people revolted against them and cut their heads off in mutiny.
Damn. And they were kind of like the Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey of the 17th century.
I would say so they kind of were they were they were the they were the it couple until were they until the ties until they weren't like everybody loved them until they did everybody loved Marie Antoinette had great gowns and she was like super trendy until the Super Bowl so you know we'll see how the Super Bowl goes but um hopefully it doesn't end the way that uh Marie Antoinette and Louie and Louie went out we can all hope we can all hope yeah it would be a more interesting Super Bowl but yeah it'd be different in a different way in a different way In a very different way It would hit a little
different It would hit very Different For the next 100 years though The guillotine shined as a symbol of France's Altruistic and dignified stance On capital punishment and over time The public sentiment towards the Execution style for high crimes It started to shift and this really Kind of really took place During World War II When Adolf Hitler was killing thousands of people publicly using the guillotine but it was more it was malicious he just if you dissented against the regime of adolf hitler he would behead you cut publicly yeah so really people were like oh this isn't this um equaling force
in the caste system it's just it's a torture device the idea that the pr team around uh the guillotine when it first came out was super strong it was like steve jobs level where they're like this are we cutting your head off yeah but like it's it's we got wifi this thing has bluetooth people like whoa this is revolutionary like this is next level stuff it's like you're cutting off somebody's head it falls in the basket so like you can wear a button -up shirt while it happens so this is dignified what song do you want to go out to we all can watch this publicly it's super clean nobody gets blood
on them because it's so fast it cuts the head off it goes in the basket so yeah we can all be we can all go to like a nice classy dinner after this yeah yeah but it's a barbaric tool that slices off your head and falls in the basket that's what it's always been but then when hitler started using the people like this is nasty actually yeah it's not the dignified tool that we thought it was it was like it was always this gross thing that's great but i'm glad you know now yeah at least we're starting to have conversations now around capital punishment and you know and those kind of things but it
took kind of the turn of the century you know the industrial age people driving cars and stuff to to go slicing off people's heads in public is wrong kind of kind of gnarly yes like it's a little hardcore so look at us as humans it just takes us a minute let's go yeah upon reflection i don't think i'd like to see somebody's head cut off in broad daylight i'd like to go to the cinema yeah now that i think about it you guys i tried my mochi ice cream the other day and i was lifted off of this planet into just another galaxy entirely it is a cool creamy scoop of ice cream wrapped in a soft chewy
dough it's It's literally like a little sweet ice cream dumpling.
It's pillowy soft, D to the E to the L -I -C -I -O -U -S, and it just feels very indulgent.
I loved it. I tried the cookies and cream flavor and I still have the mango flavor to try.
I'm so excited to try the mango because if it's half as good as the cookies and cream, I'll probably just like fall on the floor and start crying.
Tears of joy. My mochi is only around 70 calories per piece.
My mochi is gluten -free and each box has six perfectly portioned mochi snacks.
And guess what? My Mochi is the original Mochi ice cream.
The founder of My Mochi invented Mochi ice cream.
That makes My Mochi the Mochi OG.
Feel joyfully chill this summer with every bite of My Mochi ice cream.
Look for the purple box of My Mochi ice cream at Walmart or visit MyMochi .com to find a store near you.
You know what time it is?
It's time for a fresh approach to dog food, and that's where the farmer's dog comes in.
Developed by board -certified nutritionists, which is pretty impressive, the farmer's dog is human -grade dog food that's made with real meat and veggies and gently cooked to preserve those nutrients.
Traditional pet food is highly processed and difficult to portion correctly, but the farmer's dog, it's changed that with their freshly made food.
They take the guesswork out of serving sizes by precisely portioning your dog's food based on their very unique nutritional needs.
needs Sydney and Blanche are eating the farmer's dog right now and we absolutely love it what's really fun is each packet has their name on it so it says Blanche's food Sydney's food which is just fun they love it they can't read but I kind of pretend that they do maybe they can maybe they can who am I to say get 50 off your first box of fresh healthy food at thefarmersdog .com slash morbid plus you get free shipping just go to thefarmersdog .com slash morbid to get 50 percent off that's thefarmersdog .com morbid so just a couple decades removed from world war ii the nation of france was so far from the barbaric
stances that they had so long ago that this idea of a falling blade being this distinguished uh decent way of killing people was now starting to be um the subject of conversations in france and all across Western Europe.
Because Europe did, in a lot of countries in Europe, did away with capital punishment long before the United States did.
Because we also didn't, federally in the United States, we still do that.
But a lot of countries in Western Europe don't kill people as a form of punishment.
But yeah, this became an outdated concept in France during the 40s and 50s and 60s.
It started to become like this conversation that was had.
Like, should we be doing this?
If we really are the dignified people that we say we are, is killing people in the first place even dignified at all?
it's like maybe not probably not the answer is that might not be that chill it was like it was the 60s they're like you know what that's not chill that's super not chill we're moving into a chill vibe century here gotta leave some stuff behind so all of that backstory brings us to the final time a state -sanctioned guillotining or guillotining took place in France which was in the year 1977 hilariously in a sense wild the same year that star wars a new hope came out so there was wow um this really big leap in technology as far as movies go and also france was still like we cut people's head off
yeah we cut people's head off yeah yeah when you put those two events together you're like at the same time at the same damn time yeah crazy like the the idea of such an old form of torture being still used while my boy Harrison Ford's doing his thing super lean in those boot cut black pants those gauchos hell yeah you could bounce a quarter off that thing so anyway yes this is the story of Hamida Jandoubi who was the last man to be killed in France by the method of guillotine fun fact as we discussed before we went live mics with you guys the last public guillotining actually took place in 1939
when a serial killer named Eugene Weidman was beheaded in front of a crowd of hundreds a crowd of like 600 people gathered four hours early they were passing out sausage sandwiches they were like doing the wave they were cheering and whistling was this Coachella?
yes this was murder this was Coachella they had like souvenir stands This was Coachella 1939.
They were four hours early.
The beheading took place at 4 a .m., so we were there at midnight.
They picked out their outfits ahead of time.
It's straight up medieval.
It is straight up from the 1600s.
And it's 1939. That is wild to me.
They were wearing flowery headdresses.
and oh yeah yeah it was a very big fashion moment it's like what are you wearing yeah lana del rey was there in a past life yeah she's a thousand years old and she was at this because of course she would be lana del rey is always a ghost in a white dress always christopher lee was actually at that one who christopher lee from star wars and dracula and lord of the rings he was He was 17 years old and he was actually at that one.
The 1939 one? Yes. And he said he didn't look.
He closed his eyes.
At the last second, he said he heard it, though.
Oh. Yeah, he said it was, like, wild.
Oh, he heard it? He heard it?
Oh, my goodness. Probably, like, a crunch or something crazy.
I know. Because it feels like a bleed.
No, but hearing, like, the membrane, the spine be soicing.
And then the head fall.
Oh, sure. Like, if it's, like, if they used, like, a Norelco razor?
It probably is. it should be sharp but then you hear a thump you would hear that thump if it was a Bic you'd hear everything yeah Bic lead Bic Bic sponsored by Bic this one this was the last public when it was sponsored by Bic it was sponsored yeah the documentary's coming out soon it was how the it failed the event it was like what's talking it's a great sponsoring opportunity it's like Bic ruined everything the guy didn't die that's why Gillette is the best the band can get because they did not fall for this.
So this last one, this last public one, people were going crazy.
The beheading took place at like 4 a .m. and people lost their shit.
They were throwing their sausage sandwiches.
They were living for the moment.
More! And the French government was so embarrassed that they were like, we are never doing this again.
So it took a crowd of people.
No, it's not even outraged.
The crowd was so excited and ravenous that the French government discussed it in itself and was like, we're not doing this anymore you guys are having too much you guys are having too much fun much fun at this parties dancing yeah they were the french they were the fun police they were the fun police these people had a blast man they were you know they were losing their shit they were throwing stuff like they lost their mind it wasn't like the people lost their mind at this barbaric incident it was so sick and awesome the french government was like this is done you people are animals and we are taking
this away from you because we thought you guys would be disgusted and you You guys are too excited.
It's over now. It's supposed to be a lesson.
You're supposed to learn a lesson.
You're supposed to learn a lesson.
You're supposed to walk away from this and be like, you shouldn't steal.
You know what it was?
They were like, we see that you are all humans and that humans are terrible and we don't ever want to see that again.
We'd like to pretend we're not this way.
This is why the government exists to protect the people from themselves.
The government makes the decisions that the people would never make because you guys are animals.
So they had to do that.
Which is pretty horrifying.
It's really horrifying.
Somebody left there and was like, I'm going to frame a dude for thievery tomorrow.
so that they can behead him and get another one tomorrow it's going to be awesome I fucking hate my neighbor let's go let's frame him and then he'll be beheaded publicly because we look back at these like public executions from like you know King Henry VIII and all that shit and we're like oh my god people were like bringing their kids to this they were just like coming out for this like it's a big event times are so different people were so terrible back then and then we're like 1939 we're all like woo people listen to this on the radio watch this guy die it's not When everybody's got on, like,
you know, lederhosen and those big man sparkly dresses.
I don't know, like, what William Shakespeare's always depicted in.
When I see them in those, I'm like, yeah, those people got beheaded.
But when you see somebody in, like, a suit.
Yeah, see? Those kind of suits.
Somebody with a pocket watch and a big bow tie was like...
And, like, a pompadour.
Keep my product in their hair and brush their teeth.
And they were like, let's go to the beheading.
Hygiene was a thing.
Exactly. You know, also, off topic a little bit, I was having a discussion with my my girlfriend the other day and we were talking about how that 50 shades of gray moment like we all just kind of look back on that or we did look back on it was like people were going to the movie theaters and droves to like watch smut yeah like like like the it was sold out like this weekend you can't get a ticket to go see 50 shades and there's just a bunch of people in the audience being like oh my just watching girls are united when you look back on it that's really weird to do it's wild elbow to elbow with a stranger
just being like in heat that's crazy you know so like people are gonna look back on that someday be like what were these people doing this is a we're this is a dirty we're a weird species of people just gathering to watch fanfic people people have are really something yeah something to we don't get better we just get weirder we just get different carpool to a guillotine is is it's nuts man it's eating a sausage sandwich while somebody's getting their head because the cutoff and that's a real thing like the sausage sandwich thing is a real thing yeah the shops there was two shops right there in the town
square that were like we gotta load up on sausage sandwiches because there's gonna be a packed crowd tonight and they were they that'll change you and there were waiters like joking around so with the money to be made vendors vendors out there like popcorn get your popcorn it's straight up medieval oh yeah as hell yeah but it was 1939 1939 so uh let's get back to this guy named hamida jan duby the the man in question so hamida jan duby was born on september 22nd 1949 he was actually born in tunisia which i've not been to but when i looked up pictures it's gorgeous it's like a coastal city it's
like a coastal country in northern africa it's um got beautiful waters it almost kind of looks like Greece but um there is a um travel uh warning or travel advisory about like there's like a high crime at the moment but it's a beautiful I mean you look at the I couldn't find a bad picture of it oh it's gorgeous yeah this place is gorgeous no this is gorge I want to go yeah so I guess you know for whatever reason by the time Hamida was 20 years old he was like fuck all this blue water and sun yeah yeah yeah listen I had a great time when I went to France but it is pretty dirty it looks like new
york isn't it yeah yeah like all the pictures that you see are lies yeah there's just a lot it's just new york every restaurant down by the eiffel tower it sucks like they're all like they want you to leave quickly because it's tourist it's so you really gotta go outside it's like it's like new york you gotta you don't go to time square okay that's true yeah no you gotta there's a word for that yes like when you go to paris and you get disappointed because it's like it's like a thing a lot of people experience is it omwe i'm gonna google it keep going and i'll just interject yeah it's yeah the french
disappointment if you go with the tourist mindset if you don't if you go and you're like oh i went on tiktok and i was like places the locals go i had a great time okay but the the louvre uh the eiffel tower all these things you're never gonna get close to the mona lisa you're you're the eiffel tower you look look at it but it was closed like you couldn't go in it because they were doing construction everything is just nice but beautiful people great shops and if you go to the places where the locals go it's a cool city but it is dirty um great public it's called paris syndrome by the way it's
a thing there you go people get hallucinations increased heart rate nausea because they're so disappointed damn yeah sorry that disappointed yeah really you're like wait i thought that like this was like amelie everybody thinks it's amelie yeah everybody thinks it's sad they're like it's gonna be like a romantic beautiful dream yeah so it's not it's never that it's just never that um but anyway so Hamid had moved to France by the time he was 20 years old and he was living and working in France as a stock boy at a grocery store he also had a job as a landscaper but in 1971 he suffered an accident
on the job one of Hamid's legs was caught in a tractor brushing it horribly and causing him to lose two -thirds of his right leg oh that's a lot of your leg that's a lot of your leg that's almost all of it yeah pretty much all of it yeah but I like see what they did in that um remember that two that um two part movie thing that came out with Rose McGowan when she made it a gun oh yes the grindhouse he lost about that much of his leg like up most of up to his quad yeah well that was a really bold idea for like 2009 a double feature horror movie I'm not sitting in the movie for five hours crazy now
i'd love it but like ak -47 yeah she's an ak -47 like damn yeah and it it was that was uh when movies are just i like movies are silly it's like how does she pull the trigger with like her like what pulls the trick who knows who knows it's movie magic and that's what i love when movies do they're like don't ask questions there's this this lady has a gun as a leg that's That's awesome.
Just happens. Whenever the theme of a movie is don't worry about it.
That's what I love.
That's fun. Like when you ask a question, you just go, don't worry about it.
Deal with it. Yeah.
You don't ask questions.
Just enjoy what's happening.
Take the ride. Yeah.
So, yeah. So unfortunately, Hamida did lose about two thirds of his legs and he did not get a cool gun.
Like he just, they gave him a prosthetic eventually.
He struggled to find work for years after this accident.
And this is when he started to take up drinking and using controlled substances.
and in 1973 he met a young woman named Elizabeth Bisquette okay that's an elegant name it's a very elegant name that is yeah sidebar I am ashamed at how long I did call biscuits bisquets bisquets bisquets I think you should still call biscuits bisquets it's the same thing as what was the other word we were talking about it's guillotine it looks like biscuit it has a Q in an I yeah that's what I call my dog my dog's name is Bisquette bisquette or at least bisquette bisquettes when they're fancy why not you know think outside the box box i'm just saying i'm just telling people if you if you take
nothing else from affirmative murder know that hey we like to think outside the box over there yeah romanticize everyday life exactly so have a nice biscuit some tea yeah um so so these two met while uh hamida was recovering in the hospital from an amputation because at first he lost a leg but then he had to have a couple of amputation surgery to kind of clean it up and you know all that kind of stuff get it get it where it needed to be um and while he was sitting in the hospital he met elizabeth bisquit but not long after meeting elizabeth filed a complaint against jan duby alleging that he tried
to force her into prostitution so yeah which is horrifying to think about that he's just being taken care of by this because she's like a nurse yeah she comes and checks on the patients yeah and he's trying to force her into sex work it's like how where did those two things connect how did this happen that's he's down and out and he's still this evil like that's scary yeah when When somebody's in their darkest time and they're still like, how can I manipulate and exploit people?
This person is trying to be nice to you while more than half of your leg is gone.
While they're talking, you're like, I'm going to fucking manipulate and just trick you so bad.
I'm going to try to ruin your life.
That's dark. I'm going to gaslight and destroy your life.
While they're just like, do you need a sponge bath?
Can I help you? That's a really evil person.
That's sinister. Yeah.
know that's dark sided yeah i'll tell you what if if if uh obi -wan kenobi had looked down on anakin skywalker while he was all burnt up on that lava mountain and and he said like one day i'm gonna be a super evil dude and kill everybody i think he would have killed him at the time he's like you have that pity you're like i'm here to help i'm here to help you're down on your luck and but if you knew in his mind he's like oh i'm gonna human traffic you he'd be like oh god like oh fuck that yeah you're out of here no yeah so he fell down that classic um tractor accident to sex trafficking predator pipeline
you know it's an easy one to fall into you know absolutely right we've all heard yada yada yada sex trafficker that's what his like that's what his defense tried to use yeah they were like that exact defense you know how this happens yeah it's like i don't know if that was gonna work so much i ruptured my achilles like five years ago and i was super bummed out never thought about committing horrible crimes against people yeah what did i do i smoked a little weed and i watched spider -man into the spider -verse that's how you handle that i was never like i'm gonna like make girl scout sell cookies
for me without giving them the money to get their prizes my brain never cooked up some kind of crazy never got their scheme i was not scheming so um jan doobie was arrested for um her filing a complaint against him but he was released not long after because it was a complaint there was was nothing nothing criminal to charge him with upon his release though Hamid alert two other young girls to his apartment and forced them into prostitution for his financial benefit and it's actually really interesting the times uh in France like if if anybody's seen Moulin Rouge this was the time of the madam
like there was a lot of like brothels and madams and there's one madam in particular I didn't write her name down but she was the most famous madam and her um her signature was she would make all of the women that she forced into sex work gives plastic surgery like immediately like she would get them under her control and then get make them have plastic surgery it was like that was like her stamp and this is plastic surgery in like the 1970s right it's not awesome plastic surgeries but it's like you all get it and yeah and so in france this was a very popular brothels and madams and all these
things and so he kind of tried to follow that same pathway but he was using his apartment and um he he wasn't good at it but but he was still a man who was manipulating women.
He was still making women be under his control.
But that was his idea when he couldn't get a job as a stock boy.
He's like, I'll become a pimp or whatever you call that in French. So like I said, Jan Duby is now seeing himself as some kind of a pimp and his arrogance as a man didn't let him let go of the fact that Elizabeth Bisquette had filed a complaint against him.
So for the next year, he fixated on the fact that she wasn't under his control.
She didn't fall for his tricks or lies or whatever and become one of his um uh women or whatever um and they call them um uh laurettes that's the french word for um a sex worker that works out yeah at the time like um there's laurettes and then there is what was sateen and well that's why i brought up moulin bruit she was a oh a courtesan a courtesan a courtesan is like you work you work with one specific john and they they kind of fund your lifestyle where a laureate is what you think of a sex worker, like a rotating cast of people that, you know?
Okay. So that was a laureate, but a courtesan is more like, Oh, I have a rich dignitary takes care of me.
But they all work at a brothel for a madam.
It's just different levels of it, I guess.
But yeah, so he sees himself as this, but he still, you know, Elizabeth Biscuit is in the back of his mind.
Is this the one that got away?
way the one that tried to put him in prison he can't let it go he can't let it go he fixates on it until july of 1970 scary that he fixated that long yeah he just couldn't let it go oh that's so scary that's yeah that's evil well men are scary you know and that's one thing as a man in true crime you don't really as a man not in true crime if you don't have conversations with you don't really know how scary men are when you're a man but when you when you hear a woman and go like oh walking down the street like what men are thinking about like all of these things are like they're all they all can be
dangerous to somebody you know but yeah like you never look at it that way of course a woman's roman empire is being killed yeah for sure yeah it's like it's and it's and it's probably you think by a man like some guy that's on your instagram or yeah go to the gym as them and it's just some guy just like i like you now could be anybody buddy those are my feelings it's like yeah how you feel doesn't have anything to do with that right yeah yeah well i followed you to your car because i want your number oh yeah and that that's fine so i don't want to give it to you but like i want it though that's
scary i don't think of that as that's just not an experience i've had in my life as a man in my younger years i've had some aggressive women be like well give me your phone number but i was never like terrified yeah you you might kill me lucky what a weird lady yeah i'm like no you know i think that's hard a hard concept for a lot of men to be like why don't you just say no it's like well yeah intimidation fear you know like it's a lot of things it's a lot more complicated than that because you don't want to piss a man off yeah and sometimes people do say no and it doesn't work and then the bad
things happen go faster you know yeah i mean you can't even really take a walk or a jog alone as a woman anymore like you can't like i would love to take a jog in the morning like early morning with like music on but i can never do that like my husband's like absolutely not like you're not going by yourself like if you want to go for a walk your husband has to go he has to come yeah so you can't have like alone time to like just zone out to like music yeah with your cute pink headphones like that i remember telling i told alvin i went to myrtle beach maybe a couple years ago and it was a he was out
mini golfing and there was a young lady going for a jog it was maybe like nine o 'clock at night she had headphones on i was like oh my god that's it kind of made me scared that's crazy she's drunk by herself late at night i mean i'm not from myrtle beach but that's still terrifying yeah yeah you're like worried for her right exactly be careful i've had we we have had many conversations where we're just casually talking and we're like um i got the airpod max's last year and i'm like you hit the button and everybody goes away i don't know what's going on i don't know yes you have that conversation that button is for men
yes that's exactly you're like i'm like i hit this button and i you could come hit me in the back of the head with a bat i couldn't know what we're like but we're like that's awesome yeah that's so awesome yeah no idea what's going on in my surroundings when i hit this button i'm like yelling can you hear me you can't you just see my lips i have no idea what's happening and that's the freedom of a man to be like you could just like just small and you're a guard yes yes it's so true because we have those two and we were doing that we're like well i can't hear you at all and I was like, I could never
wear these outside of the house.
Nope. I would never hit this button if I wasn't in the safety of my home.
No. Never. Even with the button off, I'm like, should I be wearing these?
Yeah, I'm like, I shouldn't wear these outside.
They're going to think I can't hear them.
Nope. Life doesn't happen biweekly, so why should Payday?
The money that you earn can be in your hands today with EarnIt.
Earn It is an app that gives you access to your pay as you work up to $150 per day with a max of $7 .50 between paydays.
Just download the Earn It app and verify your paycheck, then access up to $150 a day as you work and leave an optional tip.
Any money you access plus tips are automatically repaid from your next paycheck.
I feel like you should have your money as you earn it and Earn It makes that possible.
You want to go out for a little date night and spend your money.
You know, Sometimes things pop up unexpectedly.
I would hate this for you, but you might have to go to the vet and drop some cash there.
You need the cash when you need the cash.
Download EARNIN today, spelled E -A -R -N -I -N in the Google Play or Apple App Store.
When you download the EARNIN app, type in Morbid under podcast when you sign up.
It will really help the show.
Morbid under podcast. EARNIN is a financial technology company, not a bank.
Cashouts are based on your available earnings.
Standard cashouts take one to two business days with no mandatory fees.
Option to expedite your transfer for free tips are voluntary and don't affect the service see the cash out user agreement for details service is not available in all states summer is in full swing whether you're traveling taking kids to summer camp or heading to the pool we are all looking for ways to stay healthy and save money this summer with good rx you can save up to 80 on prescriptions for you and your family pets too check go to rex before every single trip to the pharmacy for big savings on both brand and generic medications.
GoodRx is free and it's easy to use.
Just search for your prescription on the website or the app, compare prices, and get a free coupon to show your pharmacist. Use GoodRx to save at over 70 ,000 local pharmacies nationwide, including Walmart, Walgreens, CVS, Publix, Kroger, and many more.
And now you can enroll in GoodRx Rewards and earn points every time that you use a coupon at the pharmacy.
Remember, GoodRx is not insurance, but it works whether you have insurance or not, and it could even beat your insurance copay price.
Today, I saved $5 on a prescription for my grandpa because I pulled up the GoodRx app and I said, look at this.
So, you could save, too.
Save at the pharmacy this summer with GoodRx.
Go to GoodRx .com slash morbid.
That's GoodRx .com slash morbid.
um so yeah so like i said um hamida jandubi fixated on elizabeth bisquit for a year until in 1974 he kidnapped her and brought her to his home my god now his home was acting as some kind of makeshift brothel he had the other the other two young ladies were still there they all lived together and he brings her in to the home he beat elizabeth in full view of the terrified girls and even went as far as to put out lit cigarettes on her body.
So this was very vindictive and evil fightful years.
I mean days and days and weeks of thinking and fixating on her and he took his time in getting his revenge on her.
Wow. Yeah. He straight up tortured her.
Yeah. Really horrible.
And also to do it in front of the two other women that were under the control of his sex trafficking ring was also intentional as well probably.
trying to prove a point oh yeah see what happens absolutely like this will happen to you if you try to go kind of flexes his muscle a little bit yep so bisquit actually survived the ordeal but after the torture hamida drove her to the outskirts of marseille another lovely town beautiful beautiful city and um but he strangled her on the outskirts of marseille um he then returned from the brutal murder and jen duby warned the other two girls not to say anything thing about what they had seen or else, you know, that whole implications thing.
There's the intimidation.
But on July 7th, 1974, Elizabeth Biscuit's body was discovered in a shed and the investigation by the police was launched.
However, though, Jan Duby was so arrogant that he moved on from that immediately and not more than a couple of days later, he went back out to try to kidnap another young girl with the intention of forcing her into his sex trafficking ring.
So he's looking to get a third woman into his sex trafficking ring.
but the young lady managed to flee probably because she ran so she got away she gets away and um she filed a police report against the police and they went and arrested him but they arrested him again for a complaint basically which is what elizabeth bisquit filed against him so he was arrested but during the time that he was in holding they actually brought him up on charges for the murder of elizabeth bisquit so thankfully they were able to connect the dots because he was a human trafficker yeah what his actions were and then they put that together with with how elizabeth bisquit was killed
and also read something that the two women once he was arrested came forward and gave their accounts as well how did it yeah so it was like kind of put it all together in that moment but thank you know he could have been let out on whatever the way he was let out when you know he threatened elizabeth bisquit so thankfully he wasn't and thank goodness those other two women were able to talk about what happened to them because sometimes they break them so hard that they don't even feel like they can yeah speak out against yeah they probably They probably saw it as like their opportunity.
Like we have to do this while he's incarcerated.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I think that's what happened.
I think they were like, this is our moment to get him.
Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah.
So after two and a half years of sitting in prison on February 24th, 1977, Hamida Jandubi appeared in court on charges of torture, murder, rape, and premeditated violence.
His defense, as Elena alluded to, was that the tragic loss of two thirds of his leg drove drove him to a period of alcohol abuse and violence which transformed him into a different person sure yeah and that different person just happened to be a human trafficker and it's like okay then we're gonna imprison that different person yeah you are today that different person is that you're going to be going to the children yeah now yeah yeah there's plenty of people go through that and don't do what he did like come on that's the shittiest offense ever it is it's lost his leg yeah to try to fucking weaponize
mental illness like that to be like i was going through a time of darkness exactly and i became a full -blown criminal yeah so i should be just let free like there's other ways to like deal with your you know not having a job and i'm listen if you go through a tragic accident and your life has changed forever if i ruptured my achilles in 1977 i would have a limp for the rest of my life yeah thankfully modern science is you know you can can get a surgery and now i can play basketball again and i can run and everything but if i was now a person who walked different and couldn't work the same job
that did that would affect me mentally that's no excuse to start absolutely not ruining people's lives and kidnapping people and stuff go to therapy the things that therapy can resolve you'll be amazed by it's wild any other outlet than hurting other human beings or yourself yeah anything else yeah you know they say you know and everybody else goes hurt people hurt people like no don't just that's let's not let's not just normalize that like that's an excuse i know we say it like that's a bad thing but well hurt people can do other things yeah hurt people go to therapy that's the 2024 slogan hurt
people go to therapy exactly so the very next day um so this would be february 25th hamid ajandubi was sentenced to death like they they heard they heard all they needed to hear his defense said their bullshit that they said they were like you're not wasting time okay they went deliberated for a cool 45 minutes and uh they came back with that death uh by guillotine verdict and uh after denied appeal hamida was also informed that he would not receive a reprieve a reprieve from the then president of france so he was but no way he thought he was like sitting here oh man he's like he's gonna come
through i know it if president President Ha ha can send a reprieve.
If he sends that reprieve, I'll be golden, you know?
And the president did not do that.
Nah. That's not President Ha ha's style.
Ha ha does not play like that.
President Ha ha was like, nah, nah.
No. Homie don't play that.
The one thing about President Ha ha, he doesn't like guys that do what he did.
So he's like, no reprieve for you.
so the president of france denied a reprieve uh for hamida and in the early morning of september 10th 1977 12 days before his 28th birthday hamida jen oh my god he was only 27 years old so he was wow he didn't make it to 28 he was 27 years old 50 years old no this is a young a young boy i I mean, by the time he was 20, he was working at the stock place.
His injury happened by the time he was like 23 years old.
So between 23 and 27, he had a life as a scummy human trafficker.
He's literally my age.
He's a literal bebe.
That's crazy. And now he's sitting at the gallows, man.
Crazy times. Being there with a guy holding a curtain rod or whatever the string is to drop a fucking a Bic razor on your neck.
And they walk you past that wicker basket that you're headless body is going to be placed into like you just you just breeze right by it i'm like i mean that to me they said he was like really trying to buy time he's smoking cigarettes oh yeah they told him like that's enough yeah he was so many cigarettes he's really he's a chill out yeah in a glad he like i think he had like three cigarettes in a glass of water and he was i don't blame him though i mean like he was taking those things for a walk too he was like i'm gonna say yeah he was taking those you got a gillette raises just staring at you
and you're like oh this is it that last meal yeah oh the last meal and she's like swing swing and i was like oh yeah i'll have everything literally everything to the buffet because you think about it and you're like when i finish this cigarette that is the last thing i do oh that is it or if i take this last sip that's the last thing i do i would want to be like a a little tipsy oh they were a little they would have to fight me they had to pull that cigarette no i'm not done you got it after the cigarette you're gonna pull that from me smoking the filter they spray it they spray it yeah and put
the fire out put it out yeah oh my god oh my god it's so stressful to think about yeah that's a lot to reconcile oh it's like this coming to an end yeah and then yeah like and then like this is the bucket your head is gonna fall yeah and uh so like here's the basket that will put your headless body in you guys white gloves on like this is like oh yeah he's real real classy the guy he's a real classy guy he's got ass jeeves gloves on he's like and here's your bag here's your head basket because i think eugene weidman there the guy the last public execution there in uh yeah he when they walked him
out his eyes were closed the whole he didn't want to look at anything he just squeezed his eyes shut the whole time and i was like oh yeah i will be the same same i don't want to see that i don't want to look at this i wouldn't either that's where my head is going to fall you bump into the basket they're like this is a geek this is a second generation guillotine yeah they start taking it through like it's a winnebago they're like this is uh guillotine 2 .0 yeah we really streamline things this is a titanium string that it falls from you're like this vicious serial killer is reduced into like closing
his eyes shut like a kid yeah yeah like it's just like i know in for a second i was like oh and then i was like wait a second yeah too many emotions that part is kind of when you talk about it being the great equalizer yeah when you talk about somebody being this horrible thing person that did this horrible thing and then them being brings you right down yeah in that moment them being scared absolutely it's like no matter who you are or what you did when you see that in the basket and the thing everybody's the it's the same reaction you know no one's looking at that stoically no it's not happening
no no no no you know marie antoinette was so um flustered and and fucked up and scared it was they killed marie antoinette for a lot of fucked up reasons it was yeah they fucked up but she apologized to the guy that did the thing like um because she stepped on his shoes she was so flustered like she didn't know like oh you know what yeah what to do she apologized to him for stepping on the shoes that was her last words meanwhile you're going to be cutting my head off in a second but i'm sorry i stepped on your shoes i was like sorry i got scuffed up your shoes on this sorry yeah you're just like
who knows what i would say yeah did i leave the pot did i leave the pot on i don't yeah like oh don't don't don't record that you're like don't i don't want to laugh at it it's so gross yeah it's crazy man so um yeah september 10 1977 12 days before his 28th birthday amita jandubi was guillotined at the bamet prison in marseille shortly after after 4 40 a .m and like i said there's really like no better city i can think of that to be killed in because it's a beautiful city you look up pictures of marseille gorgeous oh really yeah it's really so nice sight to see before it's nice sight to see when you're
looking out that window like a picture like a hunchback of notre dame style like i think every prison in europe's made of bricks and then they have like bars and you look out and you see the beautiful coast of marseille he's like oh wow for the last time and then and then they take you off to slice you yeah slice your head off now there is some debate as to whether a person is still alive even briefly after a beheading and um some physicians have done studies um in the last century that show brain activity in animals like rats and stuff for like up to 30 seconds so but they say this could be a reaction to
the pain receptors from uh the quick slicing like it could just be the the pain receptors reacting as far as blinking and stuff that people said they've seen heads doing baskets this is has been seen in like people being bit by rattlesnakes that have been beheaded or like i have a friend um she uh embalms she works at a funeral home and she said the dead bodies they sigh elena can you yeah you said they do i can't attest to that that does happen because air will be forced out sometimes and it'll wow it'll a little bit of like a moan will will come with it sometimes because it's just like a trapped
that moment almost rocked my spine when she's when she told me that no that's fucked that'll rock your shit when you're alone in a morgue luckily i think i'll never find myself in that position so that's terrible and she's they warned me ahead of time of that thankfully because when it happened i was like oh and i was like okay all right i know what that is and she said it was like melancholic like it's very much it's like it is yeah it's a very sad like it's like a little like you're bored is it like is there like different tones like it being a male and female or it's just yeah it can be and it's
like different when like different methods of it coming out like sometimes when you cut sometimes the air just escapes so like it'll just be like a huh no when you're that that in in that moment like that oh god certain air will escape in certain ways so it's it's interesting wow I didn't know that, that when you cut even.
Yeah, just like there's certain ways when you're like manipulating a body, if there's trapped air somewhere, it's coming out.
In 1920, a broke immigrant in Boston became one of America's richest, most infamous men practically overnight.
night. He swindled the modern equivalent of a quarter billion dollars and etched his name into history as the mastermind behind one of the most notorious scams ever, the Ponzi scheme.
Hosted by Maya Lau and featuring award -winning comedian and actor Sebastian Maniscalco, this is Easy Money, the Charles Ponzi story, an Apple original podcast produced by Atwill Media.
Follow and listen on Apple Podcasts.
so it is controversial but anyways it is possible that amita jandubi sat with his head in that basket reflecting on his life like 30 seconds before the curtains faded you know those curtains closed you kind of hope so that like he was like fuck i shouldn't have done that yeah he sat in that basket does that last 30 seconds yeah just have a moment of like regerts are they tied up like are they laying down i think they um you know tie their hands behind their backs or they They might even be like, we got you here, man.
Just sit down on your knees.
I think they lay like belly down.
Yeah. And somebody holds their feet.
You'd have to tie me up.
There's no way I'm just going to go along with this.
It's not happening.
Didn't they used to put like a hood over your head too?
I think they did for.
They did it for hangings.
For hangings because you're sometimes you're a little gassy.
They might have done it for that because then the head falls in the basket and then it's in the bag, you take the bag out and then you lock your head and you're more hygienic.
What is the thing called they lock your head in because you can't, because that was...
That's for when you want to be pommeled with tomatoes.
Yeah. When you want to be.
Those are for minor crimes.
That's for like, you know, you look at a married woman in public.
Yeah. They put you in the stockade and throw tomatoes at your face.
You showed an ankle.
Yeah, you were a Jezebel.
Yeah, you had your knees out.
Oh, scandalo. You just get beat with tomatoes in the town square.
um but yes uh that was the story of hamida jandoubi and the last time a guillotine was used on a human being in france and in western europe damn that's so wild that's crazy they also used to call it the national razor no by the way i just saw yeah that's more metal i kind of like that it's really metal we're taking you to the national razor today because i always wonder why the razor was at an angle so they said they do that so it was the easy slice because if it was flat it'll like bounce it would be breaking the neck yes i'm guessing that's by more that makes sense yeah well like i told you
in the beginning when you talk about their methods they used to just have one guy with an axe yeah it was kind of dull and so it would take a couple of swipes like two three or four twice and there was even you know everything creates a market right so there were people who were like if you loved your family member you'd slip the you'd slip the the the um warden or the guy with the axe some money to use a sharper axe yeah like do you try here's 20 bucks man can you try hard to like really get it in one go because there were some where it was like they would slip and hit them in the back there
was some where they would like they would slip yeah like slip they would fuck you because some of those executioners were just like get rekt drunk and like some of them were like you you know, having to deal with doing this all the time so they would show up, like, just completely wasted and, like, get people in the back.
Oh, I'd be so pissed if mine was drunk.
And missed, completely missed.
Yeah. Wow. And then sometimes I think the person who was being executed had to pay the executioner as they walked up onto the...
For the service? The scaffold.
Could you cut my head off, please?
Like a lot of, like, King Henry VIII's wives who were murdered that way, like, handed them, like, a bag of coins before.
A beheading tax. Yeah.
you listen they they tax you till it's over man like the beheading tax for everything you gotta you gotta pay the service you gotta you gotta pay the beheader that's humiliating too isn't it like you're paying for this yeah that's that adds a level of humiliation yeah don't tap my pockets one last time before you slice my head off especially when it's the guy with the axe i'd much rather space the guillotine than a guy just named marcus yeah just like all right let's do this with an axe is crazy that's nice and it's dull and they have to be able to aim correctly and like you said you need that angle
yeah you gotta really hit a specific spot you set a back you get in the back with an axe so fucked up what do you say my bad yeah sorry bro whoopsie crazy bro sorry again hey bro scoot back a little bit sorry about that you weren't on the mark that was your fault it was your fault my spines my spines out you're like no it was on you it's your fault it's your fault like that was on you don't worry that wasn't me yeah it was your fault it was your flinched you that's wild and imagine just going home after that like the as the executioner you're just like all right you just go home to your family
did you make dinner imagine going home after that as the public and being like that was sick man like that was so i don't want to imagine like truly like people would bring their kids to those things yeah we've come a long way in a lot of ways but not really as well i don't know but i remember like whenever i watch political shows i'm like whenever we like when we watch stuff like um 300 and stuff and they're like a dagger in the sleeve and people putting poison in cups i'm like that stuff's just it's still happening people just weren't tom ford suits now yeah it's true we're all like it's come
such a long way it's like i don't know this happened in 1977 yeah really not that long away yeah they're like now it's democracy i'm like no that stuff just happens behind closed doors what the guillotine yeah no bro yeah star wars was out that's like 50 years not even yeah that is not damn that's like like my mom was born when that one happened yeah i was born only a few years later but yeah like less than 10 that's like eight years before your first b -day yeah eight years later i came i wasn't even a thought no you weren't you're like yeah you know i was gen z's you know just like super young
and like porcelain skin baby i don't claim that though no it's millennial the elders here like like and i was like the next year oh my goodness wow what a story but yeah hamida jandubi and the guillotine what a story thank you for telling us that thank you guys for listening i really that horrifying tale thank you for bringing that beautiful beautiful tale our way that was a wild one right yeah that was crazy it really was and he was i mean he was evil also i can i just take take a second before we go can i give you guys your flowers uh really quick because you guys had holly madison on your podcast
a couple times and um i love her story and who she is and i just when i think about my youth and what tv was in the early 2000s and how women were exploited so crazy like everything about the early 2000s was like um pixelated mouths and pixelated bodies and you know anna nicole smith and holly madison and all you know all these people who imagine what an and Nicole Smith podcast would be today she's probably such an interesting and amazing person but she was like exploited by the powers that be at the time of what they thought people wanted to see from reality television and to hear her going
on your platform and tell a story and just be like a person you know I hate that I don't mean to say it in a like a misogynistic way but like no it's truly right a person is like it was like really cool because I only know her from the girls next door show and yeah to get to be like her own person yeah exactly and she's such such an interesting person.
Her and Bridget are so sweet.
So smart. So sweet.
So smart. So interesting.
So like multifaceted.
And so kind. I love them.
They're just like, and it's like, I want everybody to know that.
They're so amazing.
Like they are not just from the girls next door.
Cause I used to love that show when I was younger.
Like we used to watch it.
And now you watch it so different.
You're like, that was not entertaining.
entertaining that was dark no but thank you it's like she's amazing i highly recommend and girls next level their podcast is so good so interesting to listen to yes i just wanted i just wanted to give you guys i just want to shout you guys out i thought that was really oh thank you thank you well everybody you need to go listen to affirmative murder i'm telling you we don't recommend things lightly here you know that so go run over and gobble up that feed because you just heard the storytelling ability it's chef's kiss everything you need and if you guys want to like shout out anything you have coming
up any of your socials anything you want to shout out um just affirmative murder fran is uh taking up djing so you might be able to see maybe get a resident they're getting they're giving out residencies in vegas like hot cakes these days i'm trying to get one you might you might catch vegas spending spending some records in Vegas this summer but other than that Affirmative Murder you can catch us on all the social media platforms chat it up we're on there talking it up with people and all that kind of good stuff Affirmative Murders every Thursday and we also do a listener style thing on Mondays
where we our listeners send us in crazy stories from their hometowns and stuff like that so those are Monday and yeah Affirmative Murder check us out if you'd like no you don't have a choice do it keep it that weird alright guys so go listen to Affirmative Murder and we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird but not so weird that you don't listen to Affirmative Murder I was going to say Affirmative Murder but I stumbled we kind of did that oh man low -key music If you like Morbid, you can listen early and ad -free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.
Prime members can listen ad -free on Amazon Music.
Before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short survey at wondery .com slash survey.
Energy is being brought straight from the end zone to the breakfast aisle with three cereal -loving wide receivers, Justin Jefferson, Amon Ra St. Brown, and Jamar Chase.
You can find these football stars on limited edition cereal boxes of Cinnamon Toast Crunch, Lucky Charms, Honey Nut Cheerios, and Reese's Puffs cereal starting in August. And don't miss out on Justin Jefferson's Jetta's Mix, a fruity fusion of Frosted Lemon Cheerios and Cinnamon Toast Crunch Strawberry for a limited time only.
Be sure to score them all where every bite tastes like a touchdown.
