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Guys, we have Sam and Colby on the show today.
Thanks for having us. Thank you for coming.
And I know none of you knew who they were when I told you about them.
They're very small. I think they have a very small audience of like 8.1 million subscribers.
We're only on MySpace. So I was really glad to give you guys a boost.
Thank you. I was really glad to do that for you.
Seriously, thank you for that shout out.
That happened, what, six months ago, three months ago or something like that?
When you guys shouted this out initially, we got an influx of tweets.
Oh, right. You guys got to see this. Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah, I appreciate that. That makes me happy.
This has been a long-awaited podcast. It really has.
As soon as I mentioned you guys, people were like, will you please do a collab with them immediately?
We were like, yes, we will. That's awesome.
It was in the works very early on. But like I said, they have 8.1 million subscribers on YouTube, which is insane.
Yeah, that's a lot of people. Insane. Thank you.
Yeah, it's unbelievable to us, too. We never thought it would get to this, honestly.
How could you even conceive of that? Exactly.
I can't. I can't even imagine that number.
Yeah. Right. It's crazy. And you have like over what, like 320 something videos, I think I saw.
I think so. It's around there. We've deleted quite a bit of embarrassing ones.
Everybody's been there. You can go back, redo them.
Gross. Exactly. And you've explored haunted locations all over the world.
You've done Queen Mary's Castle in Scotland, which I'm really jealous about.
Yeah. I want to go to Scotland so bad. Yeah.
Was it awesome? It was beautiful. So cool.
Castle in the middle of nowhere is so cool.
The dream. Seriously. It was so beautiful.
I want to live in a castle, like a haunted castle in the middle of nowhere.
You know what's crazy? Yeah. Is you can actually buy Airbnbs as castles in Scotland.
What? So I think that's what we did that night when we filmed the video.
Queen Mary's Castle was an Airbnb. Stop it.
And we were like bargaining with them. Like, wait, can we come back for a full month and just live in this castle?
Just stay here? Like, please? Oh, my God.
I love that. Wow. I would just want it, though.
I'd never want to leave. Just do like a long paranormal investigation.
That'd be really fun. Just keep it going.
They were onto something back in the day.
Yeah, seriously. We got to make our houses look like that.
We really do. We messed it up. But yeah, you've done that.
You've come all the way to Fall River in Massachusetts to the Lizzie Borden house.
Yes. That was a good one. You've like covered it all.
One of the things that you have covered that I had to talk to you about is the Villisca axe murder house.
We covered that in like several episodes.
Yeah. You covered that in like several episodes.
I couldn't stop. Like could not stop. Could have done like 18 episodes on that.
That case is fascinating. Have you been to that one?
No. And I'm dying to go. So when I found out you went, I was like, That one has a vibe to it to where as soon as you walk in, you can feel the heaviness of the situation because your viewers or listeners probably know this, but that story is so messed up there.
Crazy. And so just walking in, especially since it dealt with a bunch of kids, you walk in, you just feel the negativity.
That's what I would expect. That one, I was like, I want to go, but I don't know if I could go.
It really does feel off. That was the one that we actually had to take multiple breaks going outside and be like, it just feels weird.
You're not supposed to be there. It's almost like watching you type of thing.
I hate that feeling. It was also super strange because we had an experience with our car that has never happened before where as we were pulling up, our headlights went out and we actually got pulled over by the cops and stuff.
And then as soon as we ended up leaving the house, they started working completely.
Oh, that just gave me a chill. Yeah, it's like the house or whatever was there was taking the energy from our car.
Yeah. Getting you in trouble. Oh, that's terrifying.
That's a lot of energy. Yeah. Thanks a lot.
Messed up place. Oh, yeah. And the fact that it's not solved.
That's like part of the heaviness is you're like, we don't even know what happened here.
Can you remind me of their names again? Like who are the suspects?
Do you remember? Honestly, there was a few.
There was one that was like a preacher. Yep, exactly.
There was one, but nobody was like a good suspect.
Right. There was like a businessman. Yep, there was a businessman.
There was like the preacher guy. And then there was the one other dude, like he was like a train runaway.
Yes. Oh, yep, yep, yep. I forgot his name though.
We did our whole episode basically about this book that someone wrote about this, you know, Train hopping off like serial killer that went through a bunch of different spots.
I think I read the same book. Yeah. So that book.
Yeah. Like apparently basically solves the murder mystery.
Because they made like they like mapped it out.
Yes. That it was just like hitting railroad stations.
Yeah. And it's like axe murders everywhere.
Right. And he would do the same things in each of his murders and stuff.
He would like cover up the mirrors. Yes.
And then he would like hang around the dead bodies for a while and like eat. dinner and stuff like messed up yeah messed up so creepy just i think the worst you do all that and then you just sit at the kitchen table and you're like yeah feast up oh yeah that's horrible terrifying and that was one that had you know like kids staying over the house that weren't even part of the family which like that for some reason was the well was the worst part to me because i'm like you were just sleeping over yeah like so terrible And if you get a chance to actually go to that town, you'll notice it's like a small little it looks like a happy community.
It's not that big at all. So it's I don't know.
It just doesn't even look like the spot.
Yeah. Something like that would happen. That's the thing.
They all knew each other. Right. And that makes it even scarier.
It's like small little town where nothing ever happened.
It seems impossible. Yeah. We walked around that house all the time.
And like the story goes that someone was able to walk. all the way in and kill eight people without being unnoticed.
Or yeah, without being noticed. But it was a squeaky old house.
In order to get around that house and that quickly where you're able to kill eight people in two separate rooms.
Nobody wakes up. It just doesn't add up.
It truly is a mystery. And with an axe. Like an axe is not a silent weapon.
Especially if you're hitting people in the face and in the skull, as gross as it sounds.
Yeah. Noises are going to happen. Well, and you assume that somebody is going to wake up while that's happening and scream.
Especially like a little kid. Absolutely.
And there's axe marks in the ceilings. Yes.
I remember reading that. Like back swings.
Hitting, yeah, on the back swings, everything.
Yeah. I think that's the creepiest part.
He used the blunt side. Yeah. That's so strange because you can see the cuts from his back swing.
Yeah. Yeah. Did you guys sleep there? Oh, no.
That one was definitely too scary. Yeah, I would not want to sleep there.
Yeah, I couldn't do that. We'd just be staying up all night.
That was a very eerie one. All of those, even Lizzie Borden, too.
All those... Unsolved mysteries are just so different.
Yeah. It adds a heaviness to it. And when it's that brutal.
Yeah. Yeah. Because Lizzie Borden is so brutal too.
Lizzie. And that's the thing. And it's like, there's still that weird toss up of like, did she do it or did she not?
So creepy. Is there like a haunted location you guys have gone to that's really stuck with you over the years?
Like either positively or negatively? Yeah.
Ooh, that's a good question. The one that stuck with me recently was Sally House.
Yeah, you guys were talking about that last night.
I don't even know what that is. Okay, so there's this house in Atchison, Kansas called the Sally House.
And I think... The ghost is this little girl named Sally that had come to the house to seek help as a doctor.
I think she was doing what? Some surgery or whatever.
Something like that. She needed help from a doctor.
She died under surgery by this doctor. But then some very weird stuff was going on, especially in the basement.
There's this pentagram that's like drawn in the basement.
Some weird stuff has been going on over the years.
Very casual. Casual pentagram in the basement.
Yeah. I don't know. Like... Ups and downs or whatever like that.
Either way, you're nowadays not allowed to go down to the basement.
And so obviously we had to go down to the basement.
Of course. And we might have taunted something while also sitting on the pentagram for a little bit too long.
Full send. We really just went for it and was pretty careless about that.
And we think something got attached to me. for probably like three to six months or something.
Is it gone now? Or is it still attached?
Is it in this room? We'll find out by the end of this podcast.
What made you feel that way? Like what kind of things started to happen?
It was the same sort of storyline and like signs that would happen over and over and over again, specifically targeting me.
Like, you know, if I would wear a specific color at an investigation, they would call that out.
Or like, you know, I'd ask like whatever spirit, whether or not you know, this location wouldn't be known for having a little girl on it.
We go all around the world and it would always target me, always say like Sam or like say they want to be friends with me.
And it's like super strange. Yeah. Yeah.
I think the scariest part of that though, is that, there's a rumor that it might've not even been a little girl at all.
And it was just more of a facade of something more like darker and evil trying to persuade everybody.
I am the sweet little girl. Oh my God. Oh, I hate that so much.
Right, right. Damn. What about you, Colby?
Oh, I would say Zach Bagans Haunted Museum was one of my favorites.
Oh, I could see that. Did you see the divot box?
We saw the divot box and Zach himself actually gave us permission to sit in the devil's rocking chair, which only him and his team has been able to do in the past.
Oh, that's high honor. Yeah, it was really cool.
And terrifying. All at the same time. But we ended up doing like investigations on the rocking chair.
And that was just it was it was one of those moments where like it made my heart race so much beforehand.
And it's just you think about that because it's like something that not a lot of people get to do.
And so we just don't know if we brought anything from there as well, because everything there is haunted.
Every artifact he has. And people say that like they leave there and feel like things attach to them.
I've heard a ton of stories from there. He has tons of like videos as you're going on a tour there of people passing out or like projectile vomiting everywhere.
It's bad. It's really bad. And that devil's rocking chair like on it was one of the exorcisms performed by Ed and Lorraine Warren.
Stop it. And so basically they think that whatever was there basically left the child that they were exercising and went into this chair.
Ooh. And so that's why people don't sit on it.
He's offered some other TV stations to do that.
And they just literally say no. They're so scared of it.
And you guys were like, let's fucking go.
We were like, let's fucking go. We were like, we have to do this.
I don't want to, but we have to. Oh, man.
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Why are there ridges on Reese's peanut butter cups?
Probably so they never slip from her hands.
Could you imagine? I'd lose it. Luckily, Reese's thought about that.
Wonder what else they think about. Probably chocolate and peanut butter.
It was amazing. But at the same time, it was one of those feelings, you know, like we've been doing this a long time and we live for those moments that truly are like just blow us back on our feet.
What actually is this thing that we're doing with?
And going and sitting on this devil's rocking chair was one of those moments where...
We genuinely cannot explain it in any way, shape or form.
Like when I sat down, I lost feeling in my legs for like 10 minutes.
So like shaking as if I always compare it to this as if I would just like ran a marathon in a second.
It was like everything got tired. Like I was like shaking and just so weird.
And I don't know. It was weird. I think the worst part about it, though, the scariest part is our last investigation in the basement.
Nothing was really going on. We were kind of confused because everything was active all night.
But then all of a sudden, one of our friends got her hair pulled.
Yeah. And so she ended up running out in tears, honestly.
And so we had to stop the investigation and stuff, obviously, for her safety.
But it was scary to see somebody that was so close to us being arrested.
Yeah. Yeah. Throughout the night, it was like poking at her and like it was almost targeting her.
And at the very end, you know. Got aggressive.
Like built up the energy. Some of these entities just feed off fear.
And so if you show that, which she did that night.
They keep upping it. They bully you. They bully you.
That's so nice. That's what I was so scared of last night.
Like going into it, I was like, I don't want my hair pulled.
I had like braids in too. I was like, this is like a prime time.
I pulled the hair. I know I had a bun in.
I was like, I'm good. But you didn't have your ears covered.
I did not. And we will get to that. We're going to get to that.
Because I'm still stressed out about that.
All right. Do you want to take over, Alina, and tell us a little of the history?
So what we did last night, because you guys don't know it yet, is that we went to the USS Salem in Quincy and we did an investigation with Sam and Colby.
Ash and I have never done any kind of ghost investigation.
This was our first time using all the equipment and even just being in a place like that.
I think we did the Lizzie Borden house, but we just weren't doing an investigation.
We were just kind of going to do a podcast and sit and do it.
We've gone on like fake ghost adventures before, but this was like primetime.
Yeah, this was real. Like they shut off the lights and we were like, oh, okay, this is like real.
Yeah, I wasn't expecting that. I don't know why I wasn't expecting that, but I was like, oh, we're going dark.
Okay. The lights are not going to be on.
I see. So, yeah, we went to the USS Salem, and it's also known as the Sea Witch, which I kind of love.
I liked that one, to be honest. Yeah, and it's supposedly one of the most haunted ships in the world, and now...
Yes. You can confirm now. I can confirm.
I believe it is insanely haunted. I went home to my husband last night and I was like, I was just in a haunted ship.
Oh, yeah. Like, that just happened. Did you wake him up immediately when you got home?
I woke Drew up on impact. I was like, okay, up and at him.
I got in and I was like, shake up. I need to tell you everything.
And he was just like, oh, my God. Did they believe you?
Oh, yeah. Drew was terrified of paranormal shit.
He was like, I would have gone into cardiac arrest.
And I was like, I almost did. So... Yeah, it was bad.
That was even intense for us. Really? Yeah.
I love that. That was definitely a crazy experience for a person.
Yeah, that feels like an accomplishment.
It does. It really does. It was crazy. Like I showed John, we'll talk about it, but I showed John the video that you guys said last night with the crash sound.
And even he, because sometimes he can be a little like skeptical.
Like, I don't know. And when I showed him that, he was like, okay.
I heard that. I don't know what that was.
But I'm going to tell you a little bit about the USS Salem, tell you why it's very haunted, why we believe it's very haunted.
And then Ash is going to get into some of the ghosts that are seen a lot there.
And we're going to talk about the ones that we think that we encountered last night, which we definitely encountered some.
Quite a few, I would say. Nine, apparently.
More on that later. Yeah, we don't have all the names, but nine.
So it was commissioned and built July 4th, you know, America, 1945 by the Bethlehem Steel Company's Four River Shipyard in Quincy, Massachusetts.
Beautiful. you know of it shout out to boston it was created as a show of force initially in defense against the russian naval forces uh the u.s decided it was probably best to have like a brand new beautiful intimidating shiny new vessel than to keep reusing the same ships that are getting like the shit kicked out of them in war and be like be scared of this one it's falling apart so they were like this is brand new and huge and it is fucking massive exactly yeah and call it the sea witch that's terrifying that's Yeah, it is.
They should have just stuck with that. Yeah, I agree, right?
The Sea Witch. So it was ready to be launched on March 25th, 1947.
But a captain wasn't initially put in place.
So that took a while. It took until 1949.
Oh, wow. So it was just hanging out until then.
The first captain was Captain J.C. Daniel.
He took it over first, and he had some serious power behind him because the USS Salem had a ton of guns aboard, a ton.
It actually had the world's first automatic 8-inch guns aboard.
I don't know what that means, but it sounds pretty impressive.
You know what's funny? I thought the inch was a typo.
I thought it was like – I think it's supposed to be like the circumference or something.
I know nothing. That would make sense. But I was like, sure.
World's first. Sounds awesome. Thanks. Whenever we talk about guns, we're like, we don't know what we're saying.
I'm always like, guns. That sounds scary.
But yeah, it had a ton of innovations in ammunition and a ton of like ammunition loading technology on it.
It was like shiny and new. So the USS Salem or the Sea Witch had seven deployments to the Mediterranean, but it never saw any like straight up battle.
Instead, it just saw a lot of death. A lot of tragic, brutal suffering death.
So August 12th, 1953, a massive and deadly 7.3 earthquake hit the Ionian Islands in Greece.
Weren't you saying last night that Greece ended up going like two feet higher than it?
Oh, yeah. It moved the entire island. Like it's wild.
Isn't that nuts? And I found some newspaper articles last night because I couldn't fall right to sleep.
So I was like looking up articles. So that's what I do.
Meanwhile, I was saging my room. I even got some of the ghosts talking about an island.
Oh, that's crazy. Oh, my God, yeah. Remember that?
Oh, my God, I forgot about that. By the portal, right?
Yeah. Oh, the portal. The portal. We'll get there.
That was a real situation. So coincidentally, the ship that happened to be nearby at the time of this earthquake was the USS Salem.
Other ships with more experience, more supplies, more doctors, they were way far away.
They weren't going to be able to make it for a couple of days, so the Salem just stepped in and was like, we'll do our best.
So they went in, the sailors all flooded onto the island to gather bodies.
They were bringing people in need of medical help onto the ship and just away from the complete devastation that was happening on this island.
Because the island was on fire. Like mountains, like at one point it said people were watching mountains fall into the sea.
What? Like, yeah, it was... Entire mountains.
Apocalypse happening. Jesus. It's crazy, too, to think that 1953 really isn't that long ago.
No. No. It's really not. That's crazy. Yeah.
I know. It feels like it was like 50 years ago, which is weird.
I'm like, it's 2000, right? Yeah. But the quakes rocked the island for four straight days.
They kept happening. Like they would get more and more.
It was like aftershocks. But they were like full-blown earthquakes.
They weren't just like little tremors. Because you're going from seven all the way back down.
So anything under that is not going to be like just a little like, ooh, that felt weird.
Not a chill quake. So when the crew of the USS Salem arrived, Vice Admiral J.H.
Cassidy messaged that the devastation was, quote, terrifying, sickening, and complete.
Wow. Which I think is the most chilling statement.
Complete. Complete devastation. Sounds about right.
Yeah. And he said people in panic fearing the island is going to sink.
It basically did. Yeah. Parts of it. At least 400 people and possibly up to 800 people perished in the quakes.
Jeez. They died from fires, being buried under buildings, being buried under land that was falling out of everywhere.
Somehow that's scarier, being buried under land.
All of them were being like buried alive, essentially.
They said they were going onto the island and they could just hear screaming and they couldn't see anyone.
So it was just people screaming under like piles of things.
That is so chilling. Yeah. They were all very violent, very brutal deaths.
The Salem crew did the best they could with a small operating theater and limited supplies.
We saw that small operating theater. It is a small operating theater.
I don't know how they did it. Real small.
Unfortunately, between 75 and 190 people ended up dying on board the ship alone in only a few weeks that it was working as a floating hospital.
And of course, with this long of a stint as a makeshift trauma hospital, a makeshift morgue definitely would have been part of the equation.
Oh, for sure. You're putting your foot down.
I'm putting my foot down. There is a makeshift morgue on that ship.
I know it. They just threw them overboard, actually.
Yeah, they were just like, whatever. Go swim!
Honestly, maybe. Honestly. It could have happened.
But they couldn't bring the bodies back on the island.
The island was literally destroyed. It's not like they were just, well, let's bring you back on there.
So there was definitely some kind of temporary storage.
There isn't a conventional morgue on the ship, but it seems like maybe they would have definitely had to been placed together.
And it would have to be somewhere where they could keep it like... somewhat cold i suppose yeah we had to have found somewhere to bring them it was real cold on that ship so i feel like they wouldn't have much of an issue yeah it was somewhere on there i know some people were saying there was no morgue but there was a morgue oh for sure i know we just gotta find it yeah i know we just didn't find it in the maze you know it had to be in the maze next time we're finding the morgue we're going back for a second round although we're not welcome back Oh, yeah.
We were told abort forever. Abort forever.
That was pretty clear. Yeah. But whatever.
It's fine. We'll go back. We don't need warnings.
I'm not listening to Robert. I found some articles from 1953 when it happened, and the Deseret News out of Oregon said, quote, this is really gross, the smell of death hung in the smoke, screaming men and women trapped under debris in the destroyed cities on the three islands slowly burned to death.
Jesus. Yeah. It's awful. And they said, and one of the officials that was on the island was saying, and this was like days later, said, 10 minutes ago, we just had a terrible shock.
I saw a mountain sliding into the sea. Literally quoted as saying that.
Yeah. The Los Angeles Times said, quote, people mad with fear are throwing themselves into the sea.
Oh, my God. Yeah. So it was a lot. That's scary.
There's a lot going on. So that's a lot of energy that's going to be.
Yeah, a lot of trauma. A lot of bad stuff.
It was decommissioned on January 30th, 1959, and it was stored at the Philadelphia shipyard.
She was brought to Quincy in October 1994, so a long time, where she sits today.
She's a piece of the United States Naval and Shipbuilding Museum.
So I was looking further into it. I was like, there has to be like something else.
Because I know they mentioned a couple of other like ship fires that happened elsewhere that they brought bodies on board.
Lots of fire. You can find a ton of stuff about them.
But I did find this one article. So I found two different things.
I found one that said on October 1st, 1956, south of France, the John R. Pierce ship, which they mentioned.
You can't find like anything about that.
But I found one thing. Yeah. Makes it even creepier.
Yeah. There's one article that I found. It's like a little blurb in a newspaper.
And it said they were doing a training exercise in 1956 and a shell exploded in the loading breach, which, ah.
I think they were loading a gun or turret that was already loaded.
Yeah. And it caused an explosion. I read that.
And at least four people were killed in that one.
And a ton more were injured. And before their deaths, three of the injured were cared for by doctors on the USS Salem.
So they were killed. They were killed in that explosion, but they were brought and tried to be saved and they died on the ship.
Right. Also, did you guys notice how small the hospital was?
So small. It's so cramped. Yeah, definitely.
You would have been all over, like, just everything.
And that's the thing. There are, like, 190 people died.
I'm like, there's no way 190 people were in that one room.
Yeah. Like, I know that's kind of dark to think about, but think about, like, the screams and the agony and, like, all the pain in that one tiny room.
Which makes sense. And these are, like, brutal deaths, too.
So it's, like, blood. Yeah. All kinds of stuff happening.
And they're, like, on top of each other.
Just, like... Really gross, but like dripping on each other.
No, it's going to happen. It's just going to happen.
The beds had stains too. They did. They're definitely not original though.
There's no way. I don't know. I feel like the bones of those beds are original.
Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Maybe not the cloth, but yeah.
Those mattresses look pretty old too. Those mattresses looked real old.
When you look underneath. And then when we went down to the jail, those stains, those were authentic.
Those were real stains. Questionable stains there.
A lot of DNA on that board, I would say.
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But we, and I will say, so these guys that came over from the John R. Pierce, they were burned to death.
So they, there is like a burning man ghost.
Yes, yeah. And they say that you will smell a little bit of it.
I think of that every time. You said it immediately.
Yep. You will, like, smell that, like, burning smell.
And I didn't think of it at the time, but when we went down that wrong hatch into that, like, wild control room that had, like, the big, you know, where it looked like it was, like, what is it called?
The radar room. Radar. There it is. I was like, you looked at me for that.
I was like, that thing. I was like, the board said Franklin.
It smelled down there. It did. And it smelled weird.
I remember having a funk smell. Like, almost like a burning smell.
Yeah. Shoot, yeah, I'm trying to... Yeah, I don't know exactly what smell it was, but... There was a strong smell there.
Yeah, 100%. And I don't know if it was, like, machinery, though, because there was a lot of machinery down there.
But that machine, like, none of it's going.
Yeah, you're right. I mean, but even still, like, the area near the portal, like, that had a heavy smell.
But that's because it's leaking. You're right.
So I was just like, yeah, you could be onto something.
And when we went up, I looked into that room, and you could see, like, those little, like, the pencils.
The big pencils. And one of them was like in one of the loading things.
And I was like, huh. Yeah. I was like, maybe.
I don't know. Maybe we're smelling burning bodies.
Yeah. We're going to have to go back. We got to spend more time.
Part two. Let's go. And then I found one final thing that nobody, this wasn't brought up at all, but I was like, I don't know.
Maybe this could be weird. In October 1955, a newspaper article said Coast Guard recovers body off Long Island.
Now you would be like, what the fuck does that have to do with this?
Yeah. It says the body of the article was super short, like literally like boop.
And it said the body believed to be that of a sailor reported missing three weeks ago from the USS Salem, birthed at the Boston Naval Shipyard, was recovered today off Long Island by a Coast Guard boat.
The body was taken to the Harbor Police Station where it was turned over to police.
An officer from the USS Salem will view the body today in an attempt to identify it.
Police said the body wasn't dressed in dungarees.
That's how they ended the article. He was wearing jeans.
He had jeans on. Gross. Denim. And his name was Robert.
He was a sailor from the USS Salem. He was missing for three weeks.
And he was found. Sounds like foul play.
Sounds like foul play or did he do the foul play?
That's the thing. Is that what you're thinking?
Because I couldn't find who he was. I couldn't find any of that.
But I was like, that's interesting. Like he unalived himself type thing?
Maybe. Is that what you're saying? That's kind of what I'm thinking.
He either met foul play or he introduced himself to it.
Oh, I see. I see. Yeah. Could be. Damn. A lot of weird things with this ship.
Yeah. Newspapers.com, man. Yeah. Newspapers.com is our favorite thing ever.
It really is. I love that site. So, yeah, with all that being said, there's some ghosts on board that we saw.
I think so. Didn't see, but, you know, they were there.
Felt. So the first thing that I found was this man named John Connor.
He used to be a Marine officer on board and now he's the ship's head archivist.
I think that's how you say that. He was working on board a few years ago around 2019.
So, you know, this place is still active as ever.
And he was downstairs in what our guy Don calls the maze.
That's where the sailors used to sleep. And like these little cots just stacked on top of one another.
The birthing area, I think. Because when he said it at first, I thought he actually meant a birthing area.
That's what I thought too. I was like, excuse me?
Like women were on this ship? Right. I'm so relieved because I was like, wow, I'm dumb.
Me too. I had a moment. I was like, wait, that's an E, not an I. Yeah, when I saw it, I was like, ooh, that's not the same.
Yeah. Yeah, not the same. But yeah, the way that the cots are just stacked on top of one another, like in threes, so creepy.
But John was down there and he's making his way through the room.
And all of a sudden he heard somebody call out his name.
And so he turns around and he kind of looks about, but...
Nobody's there. So he's like, hello, like anybody out there?
And the number one thing you're not supposed to do in horror movies.
And nobody answered him. So he says that on board he has heard footsteps.
It doesn't that doesn't bother him too much.
But he says what does freak him out is the feeling that somebody is watching him.
Oh, God. Did you guys feel that way last night?
Like you were being watched? I felt more like we were being followed.
That's how I felt. I was going to say I felt like I was being followed.
Yeah. Like I kept getting that like weird feeling on like your shoulders when you get like tense because somebody is behind you, you know?
Right, right. Plus some areas would be colder than others, which doesn't make sense.
So much colder. Yes. Or heat pockets and stuff like that.
Yeah. Yeah. It was super weird. So we will start with another John.
This John is not among the living, but people will spot him near the anchor room.
And we heard a story about him as soon as we got on board.
This guy we all know. So even before stepping foot on the boat, we also heard this story that there have been instances in the past where he's shown up as people's tour guide.
And they will go through the entire tour.
And at the end of it, they'll be like, oh, Don, who was our kind of tour guide, that guy, John, he showed us around this whole place.
It was awesome. And Don is like, yeah, John died a long time ago.
Like that was not a tour guide. I think that's adorable.
I do, too. I love it. He's just still working in the afterlife.
Like, John's so nice. Just doing his thing.
Yeah, just want to show you around. I feel like that's like the most chilling thing ever.
Oh, I love it. Just to be walked around by another tour guide that wasn't alive.
I love it. I feel like that's so terrifying.
At least he's welcoming, you know? Yeah.
Yeah. But I kind of think I'm like, is that John, the previous John?
Like, the one John was calling the other John, you know?
Downstairs in that maze. You never know.
John is like a very common name. truth so that one would be like all right yeah honestly like 45 people on that boat were probably named john oh literally every other sailor was john that is for sure but that brings us to the burning man and before i get into that now i'm kind of having a thought when you and i passed that room colby yes and we felt that heat on our face yeah maybe that was some kind of like residual like burning man haunting i did read that that was the thing last night when i couldn't sleep and i was sitting up freaking myself out even more yeah yeah i read that they're like people will feel like bursts of heat like fire oh that's exactly the style you guys felt right you said it was like a blast one hit it wasn't super hot right like you didn't feel like it was super hot but such a marked difference from the cold on the ship definitely because it's so it was what 30 degrees on the ship probably even colder yeah So it was definitely like a gust of warm air for sure, which wouldn't come from anywhere.
There was no heaters, of course. No. Definitely.
It was coming from an x-ray room too. Yeah.
But obviously everything was off, of course.
Yeah. So I thought I was crazy at first.
I was like, okay, maybe I shouldn't even say that.
But then you felt it too. Yeah. It was definitely weird.
And it feels like it was kind of like when you walk by a fireplace or something.
If like a breeze happens, you get that like oof of air.
It's not like crazy hot, but you're like, ooh.
Yeah. Yeah. It's noticeable. Definitely noticeable, which leads us to the Burning Man.
So he's said to be the spirit of a Greek man who passed away on the USS Salem while he was being treated for serious, serious burns when he was involved in the explosion on the USS Cleveland.
And that explosion, kind of like you were saying, Sam, came when they loaded a gun that was already loaded.
Mm-hmm. And many, many people were injured, like you said, Elena.
So we heard that people would smell burned flesh on board, and that was the telltale sign that he was near.
But then Don kind of told us that that was BS, that there is no Burning Man, and that was our tour guide.
Yeah. I don't know. He completely disregarded that, but then we kind of got evidence of it.
Yeah. So I don't know what to believe. I know.
I feel like that heat that hit us was a Burning Man.
He just presents himself to different people, I feel like.
I think you could be right. Maybe he just doesn't present himself to Dawn.
Yeah, maybe he just doesn't fuck with Dawn.
Yeah, I know. It's fine. Yeah, right? And then like you were saying, you smelled it.
So I think we might be on to something weird there.
For sure. Yeah. Now, another debunk or possible debunk, because we're not so sure, was the drill.
We didn't get to debunk. We didn't get to debunk that one.
The drill in the dentist's office. We read before going onto the ship that it went off by itself.
Not so sure about this one because in that area, there is a bit of buzzing in the hallway.
Yes. I don't really know what that buzzing comes from.
That's true. If everything's off, what was that?
I know. Maybe like a light fixture or something.
Yeah. There were still lights on the boat.
There were, yeah. Yeah. You're right. But I feel like a dental drill is like a different sound.
Yeah. When people say they see it turn on and see it moving.
And you know a dental drill. It's like that.
Oh, yeah. It's a different kind of buzzing.
Oh, for sure. So we didn't experience that, but that is one of the possible haunts on the ship.
Yeah. So now we get to the chief and he is one of the most active spirits on board and one of the most temperamental.
If you disrespect the ship in any way, shape or form, which Colby found out last night, he will become very, very angry.
Yeah. Now, he was really angry about this Halloween haunted house that was going on on the ship recently, like a couple of years back, actually.
I guess people were not being the most respectful.
And was Don saying that fires were started on board?
I didn't understand if he was saying that was because of the chief or like... He made it seem like the chief was causing fires.
That's what I thought, right? Yeah. And I was like, I wanted to ask more, but I was like, what now?
What do you mean he's starting fires? I was like, did the haunted house people get so unruly that they started fires?
Yeah. Or did the chief do it? It's because both of these are intense.
Yeah. You just said a bunch of the ghosts were mad that they were setting all those things, and then combusted the little props that were part of the haunted house.
Right. So weird. I mean, that's really intense.
Yeah. You don't hear about that type of stuff.
You hear about pokes and footsteps. Yeah.
Spontaneous combustion? That's pretty intense, actually.
It's like next level. The chief has a Red Bull in hand for sure.
He definitely does. But he is most often reported in the third deck mess hall.
And I heard that men with long hair are known to be pushed by him.
He doesn't like men with long hair. Got to have it high and tight.
Yeah, exactly. And then our guide, Don, told us that – Our guy as well.
Our guy. He's our guy and our guide. He's both.
He told us that during a kindred spirits investigation that those people on board really wanted to find out the chief's name.
No one's ever been able to determine it even to this day because they did push Don to get like a little intense with the chief and told him, give them your damn name.
That's what Don said to the chief. And in response – So Don.
So Don. So our guy Don. But in response, they got an EVP that said, fuck you, Don.
Fuck you, Don. Fuck you, Don. That's the best EVP I think I've ever heard.
I love that one. I love it. And then I heard that there was another EVP believed to be the chief in which he said, I'm pissed because I don't want to be here.
But he felt like he had to be there to protect his ship.
And that's what we heard. Yeah. Yeah. Do you guys think we experienced the chief last night at all?
When we were in the mess hall, let's talk a little bit about the mess hall.
Yeah. Oh, my God. I mean, we didn't disrespect the ship.
I don't think so. I think we were very respectful the entire time.
Maybe we just didn't piss them off. We absolutely were.
Yeah. But the mess hall, when we went in there, we can kind of talk a little bit about like the music box and that kind of thing.
Yeah. Okay, so for people listening right now, the music box is basically a motion detector.
So anything that goes in front of it is just going to play a creepy song.
And we got this new music box that barely goes off usually, but in this room for whatever reason, wherever we would point it, it would just go off constantly.
Constantly. Not even like stop for a second, just constant.
And so we tried, okay, let's try it in the hallway.
Turned off. Let's try it in another room.
Turned off. But in this room, it never stopped.
Even in the hallway pointing towards the room, it would go off.
It was like people were like walking around, like milling around the room.
What was interesting is on the way down to the mess hall, I asked out to all the spirits, everybody who's around here in the USSA, report to the mess hall and come in with us.
I think they did. Constant, constant, constant.
Yeah, they listened. What's interesting is later on that night, we got like, okay, how many people are here?
It said several. Okay, can you be like more specific?
It says nine. So maybe there were like a large group of spirits that followed us into the mess hall.
Or it could have just been residual energy, like something like a time loop, like a trap or something.
Like they didn't even know we were there type thing.
Yeah, they're just going about their day.
Trapped in time forever. Right. But then we put the flashlights out and that didn't seem residual haunty at all.
That seemed legit. I mean, yeah, especially when you- Got weird around that time.
Right. Ask long questions and then do a countdown of three, two, one, and then point, boom.
Yep. Instantly. Like, how do you explain that?
Several times. Yeah, these are just normal Home Depot flashlights.
They twist on, twist off. And then we just basically put them around the room.
And if you tap them- They will be able to turn on, turn off.
I mean, but it would take kinetic energy.
It would take like physical movement to turn something on and turn something off.
Right. And they were answering questions back and forth to us.
They really were. In an intelligent way.
And at the countdown. So that was like whenever you would count down from three and it was like, boop.
I was like, oh. That was completely just off the entire time.
Yeah. Besides that. Yeah. It was too much.
I think Robert was in there because Robert, I think, is just believed to be like a sailor on board.
I think so. We're not totally sure who he is.
Well, we heard Don told us that Lucy, who we'll talk about in a second, Lucy's a little girl ghost.
Lucy and her mom had said to them during some session that they were scared of Robert.
Exactly. And they wouldn't go near him. So I didn't like Robert right from the beginning.
I was just going to say, you said to me immediately, as soon as Dawn brought up Robert, you said to me immediately, you were like, I don't like that.
Yeah. The entire night. Yeah. You were kind of like, oh, I don't know.
I don't know what it was. I just had a feeling about Robert.
And then we're sitting there in the mess hall.
And I think it was really before we even, I think we were kind of working with the flashlights.
And we were like, is this Robert? And it kind of seemed like it was.
And then do you want to share what happened to you, Alayna?
Yeah. I suddenly felt like this like really cold, like ice cold breath, like shoot into my ear.
And it also tickled. So it felt like something.
Like a bug. I thought it was like a bug or something, which I was like, how the hell is a bug on this shit?
But it's like five degrees. But it felt like a bug tickled down my ear.
Wow. Like ice cold. It made me jump out of my seat because I was like, what the hell was that?
I'm also not kidding you. Her ear was still cold this morning.
Yeah. This morning. This ear. She was like, my ear is still freezing.
And I was like, I don't know about that.
I literally held both of her ears and I was like, this one is cold.
And you were like, that's weird. That's weird.
Don Don was saying that like Robert being like a sailor being creepy towards like women and stuff.
He wouldn't blow into ears and stuff like that or like mess with girls in weird ways.
And he told us that in the mess hall. So I think even specified the ear thing.
Yeah. he said people get like blown on their ears.
He did. Directly that. What's crazy about that mess hall is his story about the Ouija boards.
Oh my God. What really threw me off about the mess hall was you saying, you know, that that's the main section where they do Ouija board sessions.
And at one point, I think he said it happened multiple times, they were doing the Ouija board and it would spell out whoever was in the room with them.
But not only would the planchette be moving around, the actual physical board would spin in circles on the table in front of their eyes.
I could not believe that. And he was saying it was like trying to pick this one girl, like it was spelling out her name and it kept turning to her specifically.
Another girl instance. Yeah. Yeah. And we're going to find out about girls on the ship later.
I think we'll end with that little crescendo.
Yeah, there's a bunch of pervy sailors on this ship.
And I'm like, do you want us here? Do you not want us here?
We'll talk about that in a little minute.
But yeah, that was super creepy. And did he say that was when it spelled out murder?
Oh, yes, yes. Right? It was in the mask.
I did that. Super creepy. Because they said, like, what are your intentions?
Murder. Oh, yeah. Is it murder? And then all the other pieces of equipment lit up.
At the same time, yep. Yeah. I would have started.
I would have ran off that ship. I would have left all of you there.
I'm like, I'm out. Like, real talk. Honestly, I'm surprised you guys didn't.
You guys did a really good job last night.
Thank you. First investigation. Yeah, you got...
So I'm blowing in your ear. Yeah. That was rough.
That's too close for comfort. I got poked.
But if I had been blown in my ear, I think I would have started crying.
Yeah. I was like, that was an assault. Thank you.
That was an actual assault. Thank you. Thank you.
But one of the spirits that you just referenced, Elena, is Lucy.
Lucy is a seven-year-old girl who is, like you said, Elena, believed to be on board the ship with both of her parents, her mom and dad.
She manifests in singing and humming. And as soon as we walked into the kitchen, was it, the kitchen area, Sam turned back to us and was like, did you guys just hear that?
Yeah. And did either of you guys hear it?
No, no. Oh, I didn't hear it. No, I didn't hear it because I was looking at the cool old phone on the wall.
Yeah. Same, same. Distractions, you know?
I was like, antiques, fun. Yeah, exactly.
But Sam, you definitely heard it. You could tell on your face you had heard something.
I genuinely thought like it was someone messing with us because this was as soon as we started.
Literally as soon. We had just walked in the first place.
We're like, okay, we're going to start with our investigation.
I was like setting down this backpack and it was like a little girl like, you know, yell, moan off in the distance.
I go, ooh. Or something like that. And later we asked Don about that specific instance and he said that's exactly how Lucy manifests.
And he hadn't said that before. He did not say that.
He said Lucy was a little girl, but he never said she hums or she sings or anything like that.
Nothing like that. Yeah. Yeah. And we know it was Lucy in that room because what was the thing?
She loved you. EMF reader. An EMF reader.
She loved Ash. So I think that was even before you got the EMF reader.
Yeah, I just had one. And we started saying, like, is there a spirit in the room with us?
And it started popping. And then we kind of said, like, OK, is it Lucy?
And it started really, really going down.
You were also holding it at little kid level.
Which was wild. Like she was holding it down.
And it almost looked like it could be a little kid that was coming towards it.
Yeah, it definitely did. Yeah, Ash, I feel like there was something empathic about you that night.
Yeah. For whatever reason, after that moment, Lucy seemed to follow Ash everywhere.
Lucy loved Ash. I would have preferred Lucy.
I'm happy that I got Lucy, to be honest.
I definitely would have preferred that. Lucy versus Robert.
Yeah. Yeah. I think I won. You did. You won that one.
I'm starting to wonder if it was Lucy that poked me in the back because I was thinking about it last night in like the area.
The area. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The operating theater.
And I was like, was it a nurse that poked me?
Was it Robert? Was it this other guy, Frank, we heard about?
And we didn't get anything. Nothing. And then I think Lucy was kind of freaked out in that room, it seemed like.
And then I wonder if Robert was in there and she was freaked out and poking you for like, I like you, Robert's here.
Because then that ovulus was being so pervy.
Yes. As soon as I held it, he was saying the grossest shit.
And I was like, this is definitely Robert, I feel like.
You just said it perfectly there, because I just wrote down that he was flirting with us, for sure.
Oh, for sure. Quote, unquote, flirting. I don't even know if you call it that.
Only you guys, too. I don't think we were even talking to the spirit in that room at all.
It was real gross. No, it was saying. He started off saying, moan.
Moan, which is what you heard. Yep. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. And we were in the operating theater, so we were like, this makes sense.
But we were like, okay, like, did somebody have surgery in here?
And then it was like bed, teas. Spread. Spread.
And there was like forceps there. I was like, or stirrups, excuse me.
Yeah. I was like, this is too much. I think that was definitely Robert.
Yeah, I just handed that over after that one.
Yeah. There you go. Yeah. This is going to be yours now.
But while we were in that room, it said knee and leg.
And we were like kind of trying to figure out what that meant.
And then a couple hours later, we walked by this other portion of that room and saw a fucking X-ray of a knee.
Yes. With like a hole in the middle of it.
Like it was like injured or something. But also the Ovilus said temperature.
And when we walked by that X-ray room, we felt the heat.
That's where the heat came from. Yes. Like the burning heat.
Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. All of it kind of seemed to like start connecting like throughout the investigation.
For sure. It was weird. Yeah. So then another ghost is Frank O'Brien.
He is active in the hospital room. And I personally think that he and Robert were the ones that –
Essentially chased me and Elena out of the safe space.
Aggressively escorted us off the boat. That's what they did.
Do you want to go a little into what happened there?
Because I still have PTSD. When we started out, maybe you guys should talk about, because I don't know what the little box is called that did like the yes, no's.
Oh, yeah. Before that. Because it kind of.
When we first went in there during the tour, that was the only spot that you guys got like a really weird feeling.
And we heard a noise. And it was the only room we heard a noise in during the Lights On tour.
And side note, Dawn showed us a picture of an apparition or apparition in that room.
And that was the only like one that was caught in that room.
And that was for real. Yeah. Looked like a human.
Solid. Straight up. Solid human. Yeah. Anyway, so when we went back, I mean, the hospital, according to Don, is currently the most haunted section of the entire ship.
And so we're like, all right, we'll save that for last.
And we were very much ramping up with a lot of the spirits talking and inviting. multiple sections of the boat all to this hostel, which is probably not the best idea.
Because this is after the mess hall where things kind of really started to ramp up.
After the portal, which is where we saw there was nine people.
I don't know. Anyway, so we got down in there and we sat down in this music box and again, you know, this is only supposed to go off when there's physical motion.
Like you set it up there, it calibrates or whatever.
And multiple times before we started this investigation, there was motion detected walking towards us.
And we were just like, oh God, let's start.
This is a great sign. So we put this device down called the Envoy, which it works on a physical tap.
So you have to go up and actually hit it and it can choose whether to say yes or no.
And so we were able to ask different questions and And, you know, like process of elimination, we found out we were talking to Frank O'Brien.
Yeah. And we asked him how he felt that we were there.
And it has like little faces on it, like that can show emotion.
And he hit puzzled, right? Like he seemed confused that we were there.
And then angry after that or shocked, right?
Yeah. Yeah, it was like puzzled and like.
Scared. Scared. Scared. That's what it was.
Yeah. So then that was kind of like the end where we were like, okay, like, should we go into this little room?
Because there's this little room off of the hospital.
Which is just like a bathroom. It's literally just a bathroom.
Like a gross old bathroom. Like when I looked in there, I was like, there's a toilet in here.
And keep in mind, guys. I was like, what is this?
And keep in mind, the entire time, it was not wanting to respond to Colby and I. No.
Like, it has only responded to the girls.
Yeah. Over and over and over again. That's it.
It's so weird. Yeah, because you guys would ask a question, and then one of us would ask the same question after you didn't get anything.
And it would be like. Boom. We were being ignored.
Immediately. It was creepy. The only thing it answered you guys on was when you said, like, how do you feel?
Like, are you happy that the girls are here?
And it said no. And it said no twice in a row.
And I almost was like, is that because there's two of us?
Like, no and no. Like, I don't want either of you here.
Either of you. So then Sam and Colby dipped because we were doing like a little, I don't even know.
A lone investigation. A lone investigation.
So we went into the safe space. And one of the first things that you and I noticed, there was a crutch hanging on the wall.
Right behind me. And you did not touch this crutch.
Like we have the video. It was swaying back and forth like crazy.
And we were kind of just asking different questions.
Like, is there somebody in here with us?
In the pitch dark, too. You guys killed it.
It was really scary. First investigation, you go in night vision?
That's like insane. That's impressive. Seriously.
You said it and I was like, I feel like we just have to.
But you were like, do you want night vision or do you want the light camera?
And I was like, night vision. We got to do it.
This is your calling. Yeah, yeah. I would just put the obelisk, like the light over there every once in a while just to make sure nothing was seeing me.
That luckily helped. It did. That was good.
And the night vision camera too. I was like, okay.
But then I started getting so scared that I was just like something was going to pop up on it.
Oh. Because we got camera threat on the Obulus.
Yeah. And then we got threshold. Well, it started with threshold.
Yeah. And so I assumed it meant like the door threshold, like it was standing at the door.
And we were like, okay. And then we were like, do you want to come over here and like make this little box light up?
And it said, maybe. Yeah. We were like, OK.
Yeah. And then we're like and then I think you said something about the camera and it was like camera.
I said, do you not like the camera on? And that's when it said threat.
And then we I said, do you want us to turn the camera off?
And it went and then we heard the crash.
A huge crash. And you guys thought it was us.
You thought you guys were running out for some reason and like dropped something.
Not yet. And so we were just standing there like, oh, okay, here they come.
Broke something on the way. We were two rooms away.
So they were in a far room. Then there was a hospital in between us.
And then we were in the far hallway past that.
So it was probably 70 feet away or whatever.
Right. And that crash sounded like it was in the hospital, like in one of the corners.
Yeah. But then, so it said, as we heard that crash, we started running out.
And the Oculus said, abort forever. And then it said, okay, contrition.
Yeah. And then vinegar. And do you want to explain vinegar?
Yeah. So I found like a little because contrition is like, you know, repenting, like feeling remorseful.
Yeah. Remorseful for your sins. And so I was like, oh, OK, that's creepy.
And then it said vinegar. And I was like, that's weird.
Yeah, I was like, I don't know about that.
But then I looked it up, and vinegar is, like, a part of, like, cleansing in religion.
For your sins. Yeah, and there's, like, a whole line from the Bible that says something about, like, vinegar to, like, you know, cleanse your mouth of these, like, evil things.
Oh, my God. And when it said cleanse your mouth, I had been swearing the entire time we were in that room, and I was literally just dropping F-bombs left and right.
Oh, my God. Because I was so scared. So I was like, I think they were – it was a mixture of them being pissed that we were in the safe space and then maybe the swearing.
Yeah. Yeah. So we ran the fuck out of there.
And that was the end. But I did skip a really important part, which was the portal.
The portal. Where Sam got personally victimized by Regina George.
And ate other ghosts. And ate other ghosts, yes.
So there is a door on like the far side of the ship is the only way I can think to describe it.
We had no idea where the fuck we were. It's like the anchor.
In front of the anchor room. The very last room in the hotel.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. So it's believed to be a place where even spirits who are not on board can actually cross through the portal and get onto the ship.
And our guide, Don, actually saw one of his departed relatives on board.
He said he used to work nearby on different ships, and he just saw his – was it his brother or his cousin?
His cousin. His cousin just on board one day, and he said, yeah, I came through the portal.
So Don figured out where the portal was.
Very casual. Fuck you, Don. Yeah. So while we were there, we were kind of just like standing in front of it.
And we had the Oculus and we had the EMF readers.
And you started to ask questions, Sam. And it really started kind of victimizing you.
Do you want to tell us a little bit about that?
Yeah, you guys are going to help me out with this story.
Yeah, basically, we got to stand in front of the portal.
And what was crazy is I think, Elena, you had the EMF and it was going off a ton.
Like red. And then as soon as we opened the door to the portal, it went off.
It just like completely stopped going off at all as if someone had left your area and went through a portal.
And so we just said, okay, well, maybe we should go stand inside the portal.
Yeah, great idea. Great idea. So we had this Ovilus and we're like, all right, you know, was there, is the person here talking to us, someone that's followed us throughout the night, we were looking for Lucy or something.
This is several, as if there was multiple spirits there.
And we're like, okay, well. Can you be more specific?
Can you give us a names or like how many?
It says nine. Gave us a number. And it, said it in tense.
That's the thing. It was the way it said it.
Nine. It was scary. And then I forget why, but you were like, should I go like in?
Like, should I step in the portal? Or you said, where are you?
And it said, turn. Turn. That's what it was.
And you were right next to the door when you turned.
So then you kind of thought like, I should step in here.
And as soon as you stepped in, I said, did that make you guys happy that Sam's in there now?
And they said, the Oculus said, they. They.
They. Makes them happy. Yeah. Red is like, I was deep in this room, this dark room.
I'm like, okay, we should leave. I think it also said, didn't it say evil while we were over there?
Oh, it did. And basement and cellar. And basement and cellar.
Yeah. Oh, and it said cellar when we were in the safe place.
It did say cellar when we were in the not fucking cellar.
It said cellar and I was like, I am not in the cellar.
Yeah. I'm not going down there. Yeah. I think of that.
Correct me if I'm wrong. We were talking to someone named Skip.
Skip. Right. Yeah. So Skip, according to Don, is like one of the sailors that likes to be like a trickster.
He's a liar. He likes to lie to people and kind of like, you know, mess with them.
Pretends he's Lucy. Yeah. Yeah, pretends he is Lucy.
And I think we got that, too. Like I said, like nine years or something like that, too.
And he would say he was like a nine-year-old girl.
And that's how they knew that he was lying because Lucy is seven.
Yeah. So he was messing with us. I think he was the one that was like, oh, there's an evil basement.
Go in the cellar. He was trying to lure us away or something.
I don't know. That was just completely bizarre how many things in a row made sense.
Yeah, skip. That's the thing. It all just, like the puzzle pieces just started fitting together.
Yeah. But I would definitely say overall, like if anybody listening wants to go on the USS Salem, the most active rooms are for sure the mess hall, the hospital, and that portal area.
Yeah. Right? Agreed. And I would say too for us that operating theater.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's where I got poked.
Yeah. Right. And that was where they were like talking up a storm.
And being like, I don't know if I would recommend anybody go in there though because I felt a little.
Girls especially. Yeah. It's a bunch of sailors.
It's a bunch of sailors that didn't see women for who knows how long.
Don did warn us of that. He did. He was like, by the way, they're sailors.
And he said, of course, Alina had to ask.
She was like, did Frank O'Brien's wife have blonde hair or red hair?
She was a blonde. Yeah. Oh, wait, that just reminds me in the operating room, you guys were talking about your husbands or whatever.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because when it was getting pervy, I was like, I'm a married woman.
Yes. And then I said Mary. Yeah. And he said Mary.
It actually said Mary on the obelisk. It was like either making fun of that or being like, I'll marry you instead.
Yeah, yeah. Or like married. Like, who cares?
It was weird. So weird. It's just crazy how immediately, as soon as we started, all the way throughout the entire night, it seemed to be targeting you girls.
Totally. Over and over and over again. You were the only ones that got touched or like blown in the ear and people were targeting you or answering only you guys back.
And then you guys heard the crash. Yeah.
Yeah. Not even us. It didn't even feel like that loud of a crash.
But when we watched back the footage, we're like, oh, wow.
It was loud. It was so loud. It was loud in that room for sure.
And we booked it out of there. We leapt over all your equipment just like doing like leaps and bounds.
I was like, we got to go. And it was like an obstacle to get out to.
It was like a million beds. Oh, I ran into a bed.
Yeah. in the night vision too you're probably like oh god what am i doing yeah and there was this like plexiglass like gate that if you came out of the little safe place you could go left and just leave the room but they had plexiglassed it off so i went to turn left and i was like should i just like hopped over it i was about to it was fucking at one point i realized you weren't right behind me and i was like oh no i've just left her in the dust i thought you were right i was like way further But you stopped in your tracks.
I appreciate that. Now you know how I feel when they run out.
Yeah, I was so scared. I was like, I'm going to get stuck in here.
I'm going to get passed. I'm getting out of here.
But if you guys want to see, like, instead of just hearing about what happened while we were on the USS Salem, you got to go over to...
Yeah, that's going to be on exploreclub.com in probably like a month in December.
Before the end of the year, for sure. We'll have all those, but we'll definitely post some clips, all of our social media and stuff.
Yeah, so go follow them. Do you guys want to plug your, your ads?
Just add Sam and Colby. Yeah, ask Sam and Colby on everything.
And yeah, this video on exploreclub.com.
You'll find us, yeah. Yeah, we'll link to it in the show notes.
Of course we will, yeah. Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, absolutely. It was so much fun. Thank you for taking us.
What do you guys think after all? I mean, it's been less than 12 hours.
How are you feeling today? I was jumpy last night.
I was very jumpy last night. You got out of my car and my car does this thing where it like automatically stops and then kind of like turns on if like there's movement.
It sounds like it like revs. I thought you were going to jump into the trees.
Because I opened the car door and I was saying something to her and it was like silent and then it went.
And I was like, what did you just do? I was like, what was that?
But all of us, when we went off the ship, Don told us how to be like, nobody follow us home.
You are not welcome. And we all did like a chant of that as we were going off.
But I definitely felt jumpy last night. And then I staged my room and I felt fine.
Yeah, I saw on your story. I did. Like three dozen times or whatever.
Yep, yep. Do you feel like you're going to go Sunday again?
Oh, I want to. Oh, hell yeah. I want to go on all your investigations now.
Anytime you want to have us, we're down.
We've got to do a part two for sure. We have to.
Yeah. Yeah. You feel more confident in talking to spirits or you feel like it's still scary?
I loved it. I like it. I'm definitely like freaked out by it, but I like it.
I don't think I could ever do a demonic haunt like you guys were talking about.
I don't think that's something I would want to fuck with.
Yeah, that's a whole different feeling. I kind of want to do one.
That makes sense. That checks. You guys can live stream that and I'll be on my couch.
There we go. Warning, Villisca X Murder House.
That's kind of, there's some dark stuff there.
I want to do it. If you want to go. I want to do it.
All right. I would do that in a second. I was going to say, I want to do the Villisca House.
Yeah. But keep me out of the demon stuff.
That's good. But yeah. Thank you guys so much.
And everybody go listen to these unknown YouTubers that I introduced you to.
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