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Thank you. It sure is. That felt like I was like introducing the news.
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You're watching live. Wow. Isn't that really good?
That sounded very real. Thank you. So guys, what's up?
I'm back at it. Elena's back at it. We're going to be doing another haunted episode because I felt like it.
Yes, we love these haunted episodes for October.
It's October. I'm feeling spooky. I'm feeling creepy.
I'm feeling rough. And you know what? In most of these haunted episodes, people die.
It's not like there's no murder or a death happening. crime involved we just add ghosties into it exactly so you know you get a little bit of everything a little bit of everything well this one's gonna be awesome i know Very excited.
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I didn't even know there was the wrong sage.
Nor did I, but I do now. You do know and I sprayed the sage if you didn't know there's like well I don't know if it's available to you guys, but there's this local witch store near me that I go buy sage at and you can spray it.
Yeah, spray sage. And sometimes I spray it on myself if I'm feeling moody.
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That was really funny, Halloween goodness.
I like the way you said that. Halloween goodness, you know. that's all we have i feel like yeah i think it's just like two minutes of shilling and then we'll get right into the the spooky spooky Yeah.
Okay. So I feel like we've been talking about some serious haunted places lately.
We are. We talked about we brought you to the most like haunted home in England.
The Borley Rectory. Yep. You bought us. You bought us.
I bought us the Whaley House. You bought us the Whaley House.
Guys, I was trying to keep it a surprise, but here it is.
Happy holidays. I bought you guys the Whaley House.
It's all of ours. It's a joke. Nobody take that seriously.
That would be awesome. Manifest it. I want to manifest it.
I'm going to buy a haunted house and I'm going to say, hey, weirdos, it's all of ours.
Here you go. So we've talked about a lot of haunted places, but what we haven't talked about is I think the most terrifying thing I've ever heard of, and it's an object.
The Dybbuk Box. I've heard about this. The Dybbuk Box.
So it's apparently the world's most haunted object.
So no matter where you live, you better watch out.
You better watch out. You better watch it because we're talking about the world here.
We're not just talking about America. We're not just talking about England.
We're talking about the fucking world. The globe. the globe a planet in the solar system yeah So let me school you real quick.
I'm ready to be schooled. All right. The word Dybbuk actually comes from Jewish mythology.
Ah. And it's the word that you would use to describe a really pissed off detached evil spirit that then attaches itself to something, in this case... a dybbuk box well in this case a box i love that that like where words come from because it's like this word is used to describe a very angry spirit that's like pissed off and then dies and is evil and attaches to something but doesn't and it's like It's weird that somebody had to make a name for something like that.
It is. Like that happened and somebody was like, we should name that.
What do we call that? That's real weird.
That is really weird if you think about it.
Yeah, it's like weird laws or weird rules that you're like, someone had to fuck up for that to be a law.
Like, who did that? And then if you think about it for too long, it makes your brain hurt because every single word had to be thought of. yeah and who thought of it and how did they know what a word even was dinosaurs i don't know fuck all right anyway so that's where the word comes from and dibbick literally means to cling Oh, okay.
So it clings on to you. Ooh, not me. Yeah, no, not you.
In the past, people pointed to certain mental illnesses as just people possessed by DIVX.
Oh, fun. They were like, it's fine. You just have a Dybbuk attached to you.
Yeah, that's an easy way to explain anything.
Easy way to explain it and easy to get rid of.
So to get rid of the Dybbuk that was possessing you, you would have to undergo an exorcism that would send the Dybbuk back to where it came from.
Seems easy. It does. In most cases, Jewish folklore pointed to the other side. as the Dybbuk origin.
That's where it came from. the other side is where they came from and the other side is where they all hang out, where all the demons hang out.
Oh yeah, obviously. Obviously. But then they come over to our side through cats and black dogs. oh yes and i have two cats and no we don't have a black dog no i have a A chunky little fawn-colored dog.
That's true. So yeah, that's how they can come through.
And then people who are passing... and in between this life and the afterlife are really big targets for most dybbuks because They'll cling to your soul before your soul can see the light.
That's cheap as fuck. Cheap as fuck, but I mean like... That's some dirty pool.
You know what I picture? I picture a Dementor.
Yeah. Right. That is. And it's just shitty.
It is very shitty. I agree. Wow. Wow. I also read in some sources that Dybbuk's are typically the souls of sinner men who possess the body of a woman.
Oh. Yes. Oh. Creepy. I don't like that. in one source that dybbuks were never known to attach themselves to objects.
So this is an interesting story. Oh. So let's get to the Dybbuk box.
I'm ready. The Dybbuk box stepped on the eBay scene in 2001.
Oh. Do you guys remember eBay? You guys remember that eBay scene?
Is eBay still a thing? eBay's still a thing.
Shit. I never understood. eBay confuses me.
Because you have to bid. That's what's confusing about it.
It stresses me out. So anyways, the Dybbuk box, it went on eBay in 2001 and it was being sold by a man named Kevin Maness.
So he owned and ran an antique store, and he had purchased the Dybbuk box from an estate sale.
So the items being sold were the belongings of a woman who had survived the Holocaust.
Holy And passed away at 103 years old. Damn.
Right? Damn. Badass bitch alert. Wow. That's badass.
So the box had been in the family for as long as any of her children or her grandchildren could remember.
They were like, yeah, it's just always been here.
That box is just hanging around. Exactly.
But the granddaughter who sold it to Kevin told him that the grandmother never opened it and warned her children and her grandchildren that they were not to open it either. oh so i'd be like well i don't want this anymore see i'd be like i'm gonna open it I think we had there.
So Kevin was like, cool, cool, cool. It sounds like this box has been in your family a long time.
Why don't you just keep it? I'll give it back to you.
And the granddaughter was like, oh, no, no, no.
Go ahead. You take it. You already paid for it.
It's yours. I don't want it. all you man it's all you man so she said it's all yours but i'm telling you Do not open that under any circumstances whatsoever.
So Kevin took the box and some other things that he bought back to his shop to sell.
So he placed the box in the basement and then I guess he had to like run out and do some errands.
And while he was out, he got a call from one of his employees that worked at the store and she was freaking the fuck out.
So when Kevin came back and he went into the basement, he said he got hit with a quote, wall of scent that smelled like jasmine flowers.
Oh, even if it's a nice scent, you don't want to hit it with a wall of scent.
And honestly, I had no idea what jasmine flowers smelled like, and I looked into it, and I guess they were very perfumey.
Yeah. But some people think that they smell like pee.
Oh. So that's good. Like there's some kind of ammonia kind of smell to it?
Yeah, there's a pee-pee smell. All right, pee pee jasmine, that's something.
Yeah, and then, so he's smelling pee slash jasmine flowers.
And he also realizes that all the lights in the basement are broken.
Like, they've, like, shattered. And he's like, what the fuck?
And the employee also said she heard... Otherworldly screaming coming from the basement.
Okay. No. No. No. No. No. No. Bye. That sounds...
Bad. Really bad. Otherworldly screaming.
What is that? I don't I'm not asking for anybody to let me know.
I'm just like, what? Oh no. Fuck. I don't like it.
So needless to say, she was so terrified.
She never fucking came back to work again.
Hell yeah. Yeah. I feel like every haunted story involves one employee that does not come back to work ever There's always a story of a career ending during the whole thing.
There always is. So I don't know why, but Kevin didn't think a lot of this.
I can only assume that he had a lot of antiques. and chalked it up to just some routine weirdness, I guess.
He's like, ah, shit, they're always haunted.
It's cool. These fucking antiques. So in any case, he had his mother's birthday coming up and he thought that the box would be a perfect gift.
All right, Kevin, you might be a dick. Like, you might not be a cool guy.
I think he just didn't know. I don't know.
Kevin's still alive and we don't want to get sued.
Don't give your mother an otherworldly screaming bop.
Well, he didn't think that the otherworldly screaming was coming from... the box.
Alright, but question. I agree. So, anyways, he cleans up the box, he gets it ready for her.
And I don't know if that's when he decided to open it, but he did end up opening it at one point or another.
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So Kevin's mother came to the shop one day to grab lunch with him and he was like, oh, I'll give you your birthday gift.
I'll give you your demon box. Here you go.
I got this for you. Special. Otherworldly screaming not included.
Love you. Otherworldly screaming batteries not included.
Otherworldly screaming included. But you need the batteries for it.
No extra cough. So he showed her to the box and then he had to like run and do something.
I guess he had like a phone call. I don't know.
He was in another part of the shop. And when he got back to his mom, she was sitting in a chair not speaking or responding when anyone spoke to her.
And she was crying. And she was like, like, would not move from this chair, like sedentary to the chair. hate this yeah me too i literally saged my entire fucking apartment after finishing this.
And I'm probably going to sage myself and this computer after and delete this file.
You should sage this laundry room after.
I think this laundry room could used to be sage, to be honest with you, after all the horrible things we talk about.
So anyways, they rush her to the hospital, duh, and they find out that she suffered from a fucking stroke.
This box gave her a stroke? She had a stroke from this box.
Now, are you ready? Damn. So she was left unable to speak for like a good amount of time.
And she was working on regaining her speech.
So while she was working on that, she used a board to spell out words.
That's like how she would conversate with people.
And so Kevin was visiting her one day and she spelled out on the board, no gift.
And he was like, no, I did get you a gift.
Like, do you remember the box? And she's like, I don't want another one of your gifts.
She wrote back, hate gift. Like, I hate the gift.
Oh, shit. Yup. See? I just got chill saying that.
I haven't said any of this out loud because Annie never wants to hear anything about this show.
So I was in this alone last night. All right, so Kevin kept trying to pawn the box off to family members or sell it.
But it kept coming back to him. His sister gave it back after just a week, and she said that the doors of the wine box kept opening on their own.
His brother only kept it for three days because his wife said that it smelled like cat pee.
And she was like, fuck that. and then he finally was able to sell it to this older couple, but they brought it back to the shop again after three days, and I don't know, like, if they brought it in like the middle of the night or something, but they left it outside.
Stop selling it to old people. What the fuck?
I know. i know like i know you're alive kevin but like come on i know damn They returned it at some point in the night when the store wasn't open, so they just left it there. there and they attached a note to it that said, this has a bad darkness.
This has a bad darkness. Isn't that so freaky?
Holy shit. He also tried to give it to a girlfriend at one point because I guess he just like didn't fucking like her.
Shit. But she gave it back. Of course. And she said to him, get rid of this please.
Get rid of this. That's a very nice thing to say.
I don't know if she said it exactly. I'd be like, what the fuck, Kevin?
What the fuck? You know, like, I don't know if they're like not together anymore.
She's probably like, yeah, I dated this one fucking guy who gave me this haunted ass box. a fucking dibbick box right like that's the last thing i needed your your ex can't be worse no no So Kevin couldn't get rid of this and he couldn't get rid of it.
He couldn't get rid of this and he couldn't get rid of it.
Wow. Who would have thought? I don't know what I just said.
So he brought it home, which would be like the last thing that I would do.
I was going to say... In what reality is that a solution to the problem?
I feel like I would just leave it somewhere.
Just leave it. Doesn't he have a store or something?
Like, just leave it in a... Well, yeah, but like, I think it was like fucking up his store.
So... he immediately started experiencing what everyone else was talking about.
He would see shadow figures that he'd never seen before.
He started having vivid dreams about like walking with a friend of his.
And in the dream, his friend, he would be looking at them and their eyes would shift into something really scary.
And the friend would turn into an evil, demonic old lady and start beating the, quote, living tar out of him. no and then when he would wake up he would be covered in bruises Yeah.
No. Yeah. No. So one night he had his siblings over like for dinner or something and I guess they spent the night.
And when they woke up the next morning they all said that they had the exact dream that he was having.
That's fucked. And the dream was also the one that his girlfriend described to him when she had the box.
What is this? Who is this old lady just beating people up?
We're going to Good. So Kevin brought the box out to a shed in his yard, like hoping his home would be a little less affected by everything.
But the strange dreams continued, and then the smoke alarm went off one night in the shed.
And when he went out there to check on the shed, there was no source that he could find or any smoke at all that set the alarm off.
It was a daemon. There was literally just the alarm going off, but for no fucking reason.
It was a simmering daemon. And he also said he was punched in the face with that cat pee jasmine flower smell.
Yeah, so something is going down here. And at that point he had had enough finally.
So he brought the box inside and started trying to research anything about it. and he made the decision to sell the box on eBay.
Like, that's where we get here. Okay, I was wondering where eBay came, but here we are.
So here we are at the eBay scene. All the logical moves he's made so far, this one makes the most sense.
Yeah. So it took a long time, but it sold to a college student.
And he ended up buying the box in 2003. And because it sold to a college student, I'm sure you can only imagine how much worse this is going to get.
Oh, it's gonna get so much smoother and not at all crazier.
Yeah, I live in like a dorm room essentially because my fucking apartment is just a bunch of college students and I can't imagine if they had a haunted box.
So maybe one of them does. Well, fuck. So the student was, and I'm going to butcher this and I apologize in advance. losif nitsky okay i think and he was going to college in missouri So he wasn't exactly like a paranormal expert that Kevin was hoping was going to get the boxed.
But I think after years of trying to get rid of it, Kevin just settled and was like, sure, take it.
Someone take it. Exactly. So almost immediately, Losef. who I also saw reference to as Sam, which I don't know if it, Losef? translates into Joseph, so I don't know where Sam comes in.
Oh, that's weird. I saw it was different in some sources.
But he began to experience some weird shit electronics started going like insane.
He had to replace his computer at one point.
He and his roommates were having a ton of trouble sleeping, like none of them could fall asleep.
And they woke up one day to a ton of bugs just crawling everywhere in their house.
Fuck. And there were bugs all over the box.
Okay. Can you imagine being one of his roommates?
No, I wouldn't be. Can you imagine being the roommate of the dude that brought a fucking haunted box into your house no i'd be like this is why we sign a fucking agreement a roommate agreement It should say in there specifically, no one can buy a haunted box unless they talk to the other roommates and we agree to buy some. haunted box i'm putting that into any agreement that i have in elise yeah Honestly, I should have put that in my mortgage agreement with John.
I feel like... he would have to worry about that with you i don't think it would be like the other way around maybe i should tell him we should do that for his benefit that's all then that would be against your benefit Also, this is really funny.
I found out like through all this research that you can't sell haunted things on eBay.
There's like a thing against it. there's a legit thing yeah wow it's like don't sell haunted items here i mean that's nice so yeah They experienced all those bugs and insomnia and horrible things.
And they also experienced that majestic fragrance of cat pee.
Ooh. Yep. And then Sam slash Losef seemed to have it the worst out of the owner so far. because he was like super laissez-faire about the whole thing did i say that right laissez-faire yes And like in the beginning, he just thought it was all a big joke.
And they were having a house party at one point. and he took a girl's arm and stuck it in the box, like an unconsenting girl. shoved her arm into the box. honestly he deserves to be punched so hard in the face for that he absolutely and also did you really think the bugs were a fucking joke are you that dumb Exactly.
I like that's just stupid. I don't really know what happened first, but.
Oh, still. So bad idea, obviously, because you don't play with spirits like that.
No. And I feel like they're not going to come for that girl.
They're going to come for you. After that he started to see shadows.
He started losing his hair. Yup. And he started like just becoming super like reclusive and like wasn't talking to anybody.
Holy shit. This is like the craft. It's really creepy.
So Losef only had the box for eight months before putting it back on eBay himself.
That's a long time. And during the time he had it, he was writing a blog about everything that he'd experienced.
And Jason Haxton was a reader of the blog, but also a director of a medical museum that where one of Losef's roommates worked.
Wow. So, like, talk about a small world.
Tiny world. So after reading and hearing about the box and hearing all the roommate stories, Jason was really interested in buying the box to study it. because he thought that there might be some kind of scientific explanation about what was surrounding the box. which I don't know about that.
So Jason is a wicked smart dude. He was a university administrator and And he worked with the Smithsonian Institute Museum on a ton of different projects.
Wow. So he's like smart guy. His bio also says that he was working on getting his doctorate in education.
Good for him. So we're telling you how smart he is at the jump.
He's got brains between his ears. Yeah. He bought the box off of eBay for $280.
Yeah. And when he got it to the museum immediately, everyone there experienced the electronic effects of the box. the computer stopped working instantly and important data was like, completely gone forever that they had collected.
So that sucks. The smell of cat pee was permeating the air.
Ugh. Terrible side effect. I know. One employee lost a grandparent suddenly, even though there was nothing wrong with them.
And people who worked at the museum were like begging Jason to get it the fuck out of there.
Yeah, killed somebody's grandma. Right? So Jason didn't think that the box was haunted, so he decided to bring it home.
And while the box was in his house, Jason and his family experience the shadow figures just like everyone else and their experience first happened when Jason and his son were watching TV together.
So they're sitting down watching TV one night.
And the son is like, oh, like I saw something out of the corner of my eye.
And he says it to his dad. And when Jason turned to look. there was a large black mass directly behind his son.
I literally just got full body chills. Isn't that the scariest thing ever?
I just chilled my entire being. I... Hate it.
Don't bring haunted objects into your home when you have kids and families.
Stop doing it. Or just at all. if you live alone go for it do what you want but exactly you just can't be doing that He also began having the dreams where his friends would turn into demonic old ladies and beat him up. and when he would wake up he'd wake up with welts all over his body so not real piss Not bruises, welts.
She's getting mad. Mm-hmm. strange reaction to poison ivy where her skin started to bleed from the poison ivy rash. while the box was there.
I don't know if that had anything to do with it.
It could have just been a bad case of poison ivy.
Yeah. But while she was telling Jason, he started spitting up blood.
Ugh. Yeah. That's not normal. Nope. And then at one point... he left the box in the basement of a rental property that he had, because he was just done at this point.
And he went home to take like a cleansing bath just to get everything off of him.
And while he was in the bath, he started coughing and he coughed up, quote, two handfuls of this crud.
What the fuck? It was this, like, this is really gross.
I'm sorry for you. It's a mucousy, like, thick... just substance that he couldn't stop coughing up.
I'm horrified. Isn't that disgusting? This is a legitimate horror movie.
It is. Holy shit. It actually is. It really is.
And he said in a My San Antonio article written by Jessica...
Belisco. All I knew is I got this thing and I got very ill.
I don't know what happened. I still don't know.
Holy shit. And this is a guy that's like was on science side.
Right here. Yeah. With this whole thing.
Mm hmm. So he was still interested in the box and wanted to know what was making this all happen.
So he spoke to Wiccans, he spoke to paranormal experts, rabbis.
He tested the box for biohazards or mercury or anything to explain why he was getting so sick.
But all the tests came back negative for any anything.
All the experts instructed him to contain the box and put it in some kind of other container that was lined with gold and it would neutralize the spirit in the box.
Huh. She just wants 24 carats. She just wants gold.
And for some reason that worked. And Jason's illnesses started to fade.
Wow. Yeah. So he also this was just like something cool that I found.
He prayed to the Greek goddess Hecate. At one point, because she's the goddess known to keep away evil spirits.
Oh shit. Yeah. Look at that Greek goddess.
And then at one point or another, I don't know why.
Jason had to remove the box from his home, and he buried it in an undisclosed location. after putting it in a military-grade shock-proof container.
Wow. Yeah. So it's just buried there somewhere?
Well, it was. Oh, I thought it was still going to be there.
No. Jason Haxton spent nine months writing a book about all his findings and about the Dybbuk box. and all the experiences that he had experienced.
He contacted Kevin Maness and Losif too.
Somewhere along the way they were connected with the original owner's cousin, Sophie.
So remember, the original owner was the woman who had survived in the Holocaust.
Oh, yes. And they found out that her name was Havela, I think.
Pretty. So, Javela got the box in Spain and she had used it to capture an evil spirit and she accidentally let that evil spirit into the world while using a makeshift Ouija board to contact a good spirit to help fight against the Nazis.
Wow. Yes. There's a lot to just nom on there.
A lot to digest there. I am unpacking the world's biggest suitcase with that.
She escaped the Holocaust. Damn. She didn't escape the Holocaust. escaped some kind of camp, and then she wanted to end the Holocaust.
And so she made a makeshift Ouija board. to try to contact a spirit to defeat the Nazis.
But then she ended up getting in touch with an evil spirit. and she was trying to contain it, and she used the box to do so.
Wow. Isn't that bananas? That is a... goddamn tail right so sophie her cousin i don't even know what else wow i know So Sophie, the cousin, told Jason and Kevin that Javela had kept the spirit in that box for as long as she had it. but that she was unable to contain the spirit.
And that was what resulted in all the horrific events of the 20th century. like the Korean War and the Vietnam War and like a ton of other horrible things that happened.
That's pretty far reaching. It is. What the fuck spirit did she capture?
I don't know. Damn. So eventually, Javela was able to contain the spirit in the box, but the box had the evil entity inside of it and that's why everybody was instructed not to open it but they fucking did Yeah, cool.
And it had been opened multiple times at this point, so that's good.
When it was first opened inside, Kevin Maness found a statue that had the word Shalom on it, two locks of hair separately. a candlestick holder, and a couple of dried rosebuds.
All of that is really creepy, weirdly enough.
So even the innocuous items in there are like, eww.
Well, and a lot of those things, I guess, are consistent with what you would use during an exorcism.
Yeah, that makes sense. So I don't know if they just like use them and then like locked them away.
So creepy. Oh my god, did you just hear that in your headphones?
Yes. Wow, one of Elena's children screamed on stairs and I just got really scared.
But it was like a happy scream. Yeah, it was.
One of them just like screamed. One of them's just screaming downstairs.
All right. So back to the Dybbuk boxes. In 2004, Sam Raimi announced that he was going to make a film based off of Jason's book. titled The Dybbuk Box.
So three different scripts were written.
The first was by Stephen Susco, who did The Grudge.
Oh, and then the second was written by Juliet Snowden and Stiles Stiles White, who did Knowing.
Have you ever seen that movie? That sounds familiar.
They also did a movie called Ouija and like a bunch of other creepy movies.
And then finally, Sam Raimi wrote the final script.
And he's famous for doing all the Spider-Man movies and the Evil Dead.
Yep. So that's kind of crazy. That's crazy.
They shot the movie in Vancouver and even though Sam Raimi was like all set with the box being anywhere near him.
Some strange shit went down while they were filming.
Lights that weren't even on exploded. Just straight up fucking exploded.
That aren't even on either. Not even on.
No electricity. Nope. And all the props used in the movie, like every single prop was put in a warehouse when they were finished.
And like. a fire happened and burned every single prop down.
And when the fire was investigated, there was no Like origin?
No origin. They couldn't find any reason why the fire started.
What the fuck? So just like sporadic combustion.
Holy shit. Sporadic combustion. Spontaneous.
Yeah, damn it. Ugh, whatever. So the movie, by the way, is called The Possession if you want to watch it.
Ooh. So now we get to 2017 and we get to Zach Bagans.
Oh. Yeah. Zach Bagans. Uh-huh. From Ghost Adventures.
He bought the box from Jason allegedly for $10,000.
Holy shit. Yeah, I don't know why you would pay that much for that.
I wouldn't pay a dollar for it. So Zach brought it to his museum in Vegas, where at first he would not let anyone see it unless they were over 18. and signed a waiver saying that he wasn't responsible if anything happened while they were looking at it. or after they looked at it.
Holy shit, that's like Robert the Doll. Yeah, exactly.
You have to sign a waiver saying that you can't blame them.
I'm not, if I have to sign a waiver to see something, no, no.
So in June of 2018, And this is the reason why I did this story because I found a BuzzFeed article about this entire thing.
So in June of 2018, Post Malone went to the visit.
Went to the visit, went to the museum to visit Zach and Zach was showing him around and he asked Posty if he wanted to see the Dybbuk box. and Posty wanted to.
And so he, Zach is taking off the glass partition. and Zach touches the box for the first time ever.
And while he's doing that, Post Malone touches his shoulder like, dude like let's get out of here like I don't feel good like I don't want to be here And apparently that was enough, like, secondhand contact is enough to get cursed.
What the fuck? So because Zach was touching the box and Posty touched his shoulder, Posty got cursed.
Do people call him Posty? Yeah. Okay. No, it's just me.
Oh my god, so crazy. So after visiting the museum and getting secondhand cursed, Post Malone got on a plane to London And while in the air, the tires blew off of the plane.
What? Yes. The pilot was able to land the plane, but normally that would have ended like a lot differently.
Holy shit. Like he could have died. And then a few days later, after his plane almost crashes, three robbers who were carrying guns broke into his old home, like, looking for him.
And they pistol whipped the current owner.
Yeah. Holy shit. But they were looking for him and like probably would have killed him.
Wow. And if that was not enough for you, he was also in a car accident shortly after all this. and somehow made it out without a scratch, but it was like a bad accident and he could have been seriously hurt. wow and that's secondhand curse that's bananas and they do say that bad things happen in three so hopefully posty's in the clear wow isn't that nuts posty posty we hope you're okay i know you're my sunflower i don't even know if that's him i think it is You are asking the wrong person.
Yeah. Well, Zach Bagans attempted to open the box once before for his fans.
I think it was at like a live show in 2008.
He was opening the box? Yeah. What the fuck?
Because that's what they do. Stop doing that.
I know. I agree. That's just dumb. And he was going to do it after everything happened with Post Malone, but he ended up not being able to open it.
And I guess people were like really pissed off.
Because I don't know if people like paid to go or whatever.
Probably. They were mad. But now in 2020, Zach and his team decided to quarantine at the museum.
And if, like you've probably already seen this, because they decided to open the box in July.
The episode aired as the season finale of the four-part quarantine series in July.
Where he opens the box, I guess. But I refuse to watch it because...
Even just looking at pictures of the Dybbuk box is said to be dangerous, and you could get cursed from just looking at pictures.
And I already did that. So you get what you get and you don't get upset.
Wow. But you know what? That one doesn't make sense, though.
Because it's like looking at pictures through the internet.
How does a diamond know? Poltergeist attaches itself to an electromagnetic field. in your computer and fucks you up but i don't think that makes sense To be honest.
I get the secondhand curse by, like, touching him while he's touching the box.
Yeah. I don't believe the... Okay. I mean, I'm not going to go look at pictures, but I'm just saying.
I'm not going to post a picture of the actual box just because I don't want any of you getting mad at me if something happens.
Yeah. So I'm just going to post like something else and just tell you that it's the episode and you can go Google it if you want.
We'll post a cardboard box and be like, here it is, folks.
No, because that's making fun of it and I'm not doing that either.
Oh, okay. Sorry. So anyways. Anyways, I'm not shocked that Zach decided 2020 was a good time to open the fucking box.
Yeah. that it said that it's going to lead to catastrophic events.
It already led to horrible events in the 20th century.
Man, 2020 has been so boring and uneventful.
Why did you feel like you needed to do that?
Like it wasn't bad enough yet? No. So Zach Bagans told E!
Online that there are actually 10 Dybbuk boxes in the world and that he has two of them.
The one that he opened and then a smaller one.
And he says, quote, Each one aligns with the tree of life concept from Kabbalah, the basis for Jewish mysticism.
So two of the world's Dybbuk boxes are unaccounted for, I guess, and they're potentially buried somewhere. so that they don't create any more chaos in the world.
I hope. But Jason Haxton disagrees, and he told Tess Cutler from Tablet News, quote, There's only one Dybbuk box.
Any other box is a load of crap. So that's nuts.
He also says, that he looks at the box now as his fountain of youth because he thinks that the prayer has been answered and the hauntings are done. wow but i'm personally not too sure about that it doesn't sound like it was a good time nope doesn't sound like it at all no nope So that's that.
Wow. The Dybbuk box. The Dybbuk box is no joke. joke no joke i would not mess with it the dibbick box yeah do not open it Stop opening the fucking Dybbuk box.
It sounds a lot like Pandora's box. It sounds like a box with a demon in it.
Don't open it. Do not. It's pretty simple.
Yeah, I mean, all you have to do is don't.
That's like, hey, there's a venomous snake in that box.
Don't open it. And people are like, I'm opening it.
I want to. No, don't open it. It's like, you're dumb.
Don't. No, stop doing this. I know this episode really fucked me up.
I'm like all creeped out. Yeah. don't love it i hate it i don't love it at all i'm so spooked oh guys yeah so that's fun if you want to look at pictures of that you can do that on your own Sure can.
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