Good morning, 10 News Studio.
Hey, Pam.
Yeah, I'm good, thanks.
Whoa, my gosh.
Ryan, were you just sitting here in the dark?
Why are you here so early?
Yeah, no, I just, I'm gaming and stuff.
And what time it is?
Or how are you, Humela?
Wait, have you been here since yesterday?
Gaming and screen timing all night?
Oh, well, maybe, well, because, yeah, show time.
Aren't we gotta?
I'm Ryan Willard.
It's Fun Day, February 31st.
Nope, that's not a real day.
But I'm Pamela Kirkland.
It's Friday, March 14th.
Fur Day, March 40th.
And we're going to do a shallow jump.
Close.
This is a 10 News deep dive.
10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Everything is awesome.
Everything is cool when you're looking at memes.
I don't think I've ever seen him like this.
Me neither.
He's, like, fully zombified.
How you doing, buddy?
Hey, Rye.
It's Everett.
What up, Everett?
Maybe we should get Cap.
Cap.
Ten.
Cap Ten.
Underpants.
Ten underpants is here to save the day.
Okay, he can hear us, but he's not fully there.
Should we press the Rhymergency button on his desk?
I mean, I'm always a little weary of Ryan's inventions, but I don't see any other option.
Thank you for pressing the Rhymergency button.
Please select the option that best describes your Rhymergency.
Is Ryan short-tempered?
Irritable and unable to make decisions.
If so, he may be hangry.
That's not it, but he was totally hangry for a bit yesterday.
Did Ryan eat onions and is currently experiencing uncontrollable flatulence that smells like burnt rotten eggs?
If so, he may be having a fart attack.
Nope, that's not it.
Is Ryan zombified, fixated on electronic devices, and not making any sense when he speaks?
If so, he may be... over-screen-timed.
Yes!
Ryan is over-screen-timed.
If Ryan is over-screen-timed, you may need to dump ice-cold water on his head.
I've always wanted to do that!
Or you should contact Megan Kiefer from the Take Two Media Initiative.
She'll know what to do.
Alright, I've got the ice water.
Are we doing this?
Hold on.
Let me contact Megan Kiefer first.
Hi, this is Megan.
Hi, Megan.
I'm Pam.
Pam Kirkland from the 10 News?
Of course I know you.
Wait, is this a Rymergency?
It is.
I've got a bucket of ice water ready to go.
Hold me up to him.
Hey, Ry, it's your friend Megan.
How you doing?
Game, just I wanna.
Where phone is my?
There is phone. iPhone, love.
Okay, Ryan is not able to hear grown-ups.
I'm gonna connect him with some Take Two teen media ambassadors.
He should be able to hear them.
In the meantime, you can hit him with that ice water.
Oh, yes!
Ah, he's saying Taylor Swift in the shower!
Okay, wow, that's an unexpected fun fact.
Let's take a quick break while Everett grabs him a towel.
Okay, we're back.
Ryan is drying off, but still not able to hear grownups.
Megan, who are your friends?
These are some of our teen media ambassadors.
Introduce yourselves and please talk some sense into Ryan.
Hey there, I'm Gemma and I'm 18 years old.
Hi there, I'm Brianna and I'm 15 years old.
And I'm Cyrus.
I am 15 years old.
Ryan, can you hear us?
Yeah, can hear you all.
Why are the grown-ups mouths moving but no words are coming out?
I think it's a side effect.
You've had a little too much screen time.
According to the grownups, you've been in the office since yesterday gaming and watching movies.
That sounds right, but also sounds pretty great.
Where are you all from again?
We're from the Take Two Media Initiatives.
We teach students and parents the effects of media and how screen time can affect your personal life, like how you're going through right now.
You talk to grownups about this?
Why would kids be trying to convince adults to limit other kids' screen time?
When I first started out as a media ambassador, I didn't know anything about how to regulate my screen time.
But now that I do, I know when and when not to use it.
Like when I'm going to bed and when I first wake up in the morning.
And you don't want to be consumed by your device 24-7, because then you won't know how to interact in the real world.
Do you ever feel like you always need to have your phone on you even when you're not using it?
Yeah, sometimes I pick it up and I just start going to an app I don't even know why.
I'll go on like Instagram to look something up.
When I picked up my phone to look at a text message.
Then I just get distracted and I'm like going down a hole.
Well, that can start a addiction, a phone addiction.
Wait, so I have so many grownups who tell me that I am on my phone way too much.
You're telling me that I could be addicted?
Like, am I doing something that's making me addicted?
I don't get it.
How could I be addicted to a phone?
There's different algorithms that they use.
So let's say, Ryan, you really like basketball and video game content.
If you're on Instagram or TikTok and you put in that you like both of those things, the algorithm will basically make sure that all of the things that you're interested in keeps coming up on your feed.
So you keep getting consumed by all of that information that you're really interested in.
And that's what the tech companies like to do.
They like to keep you in this loophole of all the things that you're looking at, that you love looking at all the time.
So you're telling me that when I go on to Instagram or TikTok, I like video games or basketball, which I like, both of they come up.
If I like the video or I comment on it or I share it, that puts it in my algorithm higher.
So then there, the algorithm will show me more of that stuff.
So I just keep logging on because I want more video games and I want more pizza content.
I want more basketball content.
Yes, they keep you hooked.
Yeah.
For example, if you even spend hours, A split second, seeing a video on basketball, like you said or you like it, it's going to keep coming up on your feed.
And sometimes that can be a bad thing, because you'll see something that you don't like, something that's inappropriate.
And if you're stuck looking at it, it'll keep coming up on your feed.
And the best thing to do in those situations is to talk to an adult or a parent or guardian to help you.
And after being on a certain amount of content, it can start making you very close minded and cause an echo chamber.
Oh, like an echo chamber, like you're talking, you're just hearing yourself or you're just hearing the same things over and over again.
And if you keep hearing the same thing over and over, you won't broaden your horizons and you'll never know if you like football because you keep hearing about basketball.
So you're telling me that if I'm addicted to this device, I'm getting all this information through the device and it's telling me what I want to hear, not all these other different perspectives.
Then I'm just going to get that over and over and over again.
Yes.
And that can be unhealthy at a certain amount.
So do you all think that different perspectives and different opinions and different ideas are good?
Yes.
Oh, really?
Well, how do you feel about pineapple on pizza then?
I personally don't think fruit belongs on pizza, in my opinion.
I've had it, and I just don't like the sweet and salty concept for that particular food.
I like it on anything else, but I don't like The mix of fruit and pizza and tomato sauce and all of that.
No, thank you.
Not my cup of tea.
Now, if you just heard Gemma's opinion, you would never know if the pizza was actually good.
You would never broaden your horizon and know if pineapple on pizza was good.
That is true.
So I'm going to tell you right now, I believe you can put whatever you want on pizza.
I don't discriminate against any sort of pizza.
If you're going to eat it, put it on that slice.
Do you have any tips for how I can... create boundaries or limits for myself?
Well, maybe you can hang out with your friends more, because if you're hanging out with the people that aren't as addicted to their phone, then you'll become less addicted and you'll be distracted by the people that make you feel better about yourself.
Thank you.
Okay.
Well, I just have one last question for the three of you because I really appreciate your help.
I'm feeling much better, but I'm curious.
Are you actually adults dressed like teenagers?
Nope.
No.
You sure?
I think so.
Because normally adults are trying to tell me some of these types of things and have this kind of wisdom, but you apparently are smarter than some adults that I know.
How is this possible?
Well, also, Brian, you have to think we have more experience with this.
Well, personally my experience when COVID hit, I was in seventh grade and my whole life was practically consumed by a device.
And since then, my addiction escalated.
And now because I have more personal experience, I can talk to others about this.
And instead of talking at you, I can talk with you and we can both share these experiences and try to create healthier habits for ourselves.
And to go off what Gemma said just because you know we were born with this technology just doesn't mean we can't get away from it.
Becoming an immediate ambassador and teaching you know children and adults has changed my point of view on media.
And I can see that change throughout my life.
Now, whenever I look at my phone and I see, I go straight into Instagram.
Now, whenever I see my phone, I just leave it on the charger and go on with my day.
If we all come together, we can figure it out and put this stuff down.
I'd say that growing up with technology has its benefits just like it has its negatives.
We grow up and we see the younger generation and we have tried not to be so addicted to our phones, especially now that we became media ambassadors.
It kind of caused us to see the disadvantages of having our phones or, well, our devices on us.
Okay, well, thank you guys so much for stopping by.
I appreciate you helping me snap out of my funk.
Anything else you want to say to our audience and the tenors before you go?
Ryan, you should become a media ambassador today.
You would let me join the ranks of you media ambassadors?
Yes, sir.
And you can become as wise as us.
Is it true you guys get pizza at your meetings?
Yes.
Then I'm in.
Consider me a media ambassador.
I will take the information and initiation after the show.
To learn more about being a media ambassador, visit Take2MediaInitiative.org.
You back with us, Rye?
You can hear me?
Yes, I can hear you, but I'm kind of loopy.
My brain isn't really working correctly.
I have a feeling you're sleep deprived, and that's not good.
It's just a little sleep.
I can always catch up on it, right?
Well, maybe.
But I have an expert that I think we should chat with, Ryan.
Meet Lindsay Scola.
She's a sleep expert.
I am Lindsay Scola.
I am a sleep and productivity expert, a writer, and a speaker.
I...
Didn't come to this work easily.
When I was 16 however, I started having these moments that I would feel otherwise engaged, sitting in class at the edge of my seat.
And then, out of nowhere, I would have this excruciating feeling that if I don't go to sleep right now, I'm going to die.
And then I would go sneak into the bathroom and take a nap.
And 15 minutes later, I would feel better and I would slink back into class.
And I told my doctor about this and she said that I was busy and busy people are tired.
And that sort of stuck with me for the next 19 years as I was working in presidential politics and was an advanced staffer for President Obama.
And I was surrounded by a lot of people who were busy and they all said they were tired, but I didn't see them sneaking into the bathroom to nap.
So when I was 35, I was actually diagnosed with narcolepsy.
And that day I didn't just learn I had a sleep disorder.
I learned that I didn't know anything about sleep.
And most of us don't know anything about sleep, including the majority of our doctors.
So I have been on a journey to understand my own sleep and along the way, I'm helping as many people as I can understand their sleep.
So they are working and living and enjoying their most productive and happy and joyful lives.
I love that.
Now, I love sleep.
I probably don't know anything about sleep in terms of how much you know about sleep.
But why become a sleep expert?
Your personal story is so interesting.
So why make that decision to say, yes, this is what I want to be an expert in?
Because I saw how much lack of sleep.
We have a challenging understanding of narcolepsy.
Now let's go back for a second because you've mentioned narcolepsy a couple times.
Explain what that is.
So narcolepsy is a sleep disorder that affects about 1 in 2,000 people.
And it's an issue of the sleep-wake cycle.
Most of us think that people with narcolepsy sleep really well, because you want to sleep all the time.
But what's happening is you're actually not getting very good sleep when you are asleep.
So you're constantly tired when you're awake.
So your brain can sometimes get confused about when it's supposed to be awake and when it's supposed to be asleep.
So at three o'clock in the afternoon I can feel absolutely like I can't stay awake, no matter what I do.
And at three o'clock in the morning, I can feel like let's party.
And so I saw how much this this lack of sleep situation had affected my world.
So I want to ask how we should think about sleep disorders.
I actually I was a sleepwalker when I was a kid, which my parents figured out a way to help deal with.
I would get up, I would set off the alarm in the middle of the night, unfortunately.
But how should people think about sleep disorders?
Sleep disorders are common.
Again, one in five people have them, but about 80% of people don't know that they have one.
So we have a lot of really tired people that don't know that help is available.
So anytime that you are feeling excessively sleepy during the day, it's important to talk to a doctor about it.
But knowing that your family doctor or general practitioner might not be very familiar with sleep disorders, sleep specialists are a thing.
They're super helpful and they're amazing at what they do.
Why is sleep so important?
I mean, we do it a lot throughout our lives.
And I'm sure as parents, we tell our kids, go to sleep, go to sleep.
But what is the importance of getting that kind of rest?
So sleep is where your body repairs itself.
So that's where your immune system functions.
It's where your muscles recover from any work that they've done.
It's where our brain actually takes out the trash.
So all day long, you have chemicals building up in your brain.
And without a moment for those to wash out, they can actually build up over time.
So if we don't give ourselves that time for those things, we take a physical hit.
And then there's a memory issue.
So in REM sleep, our memories get consolidated.
They go from short-term to long-term memory.
And I remember when I was in college.
I would think I had to stay up all night to study for something, so that I could memorize something.
And the truth is that the less time you sleep, the harder time you have retaining information.
And so I wish I could go back and tell myself learn the thing you need to learn, and then sleep on it literally, because you'll have a much easier time retaining it.
And that all happens throughout the night.
So we sleep in something that's around like a 90 minute cycle where you go from light sleep to deep sleep, to REM sleep.
REM sleep stands for rapid eye movement.
And that's where actually our eyes are darting back and forth underneath our eyelids.
And that's where your dreams are happening.
And so all of those stages play a really different but important function in your sleep cycle.
And you get more deep sleep your earlier cycles in the night.
You get more REM sleep your later cycles in the night.
So that's why it's important to get the amount of sleep that you're supposed to get.
But the thing that not everybody knows is that there is no standard time that you have to sleep.
So you might be someone who finds out that you function really well at seven hours.
You might be someone who functions really well at nine hours.
And so it's really important to listen to your body for what feels good for yourself, and that you don't have to check a box for a specific number.
Well, I could take a nap right now.
Lindsay, thank you so much.
And there is nothing wrong with napping.
I'm a big fan of naps.
I actually wear a necklace that says good at naps.
I take a lot of pride in napping.
Rye, are you napping?
Yeah, Lindsay said naps are good.
They are, but Not when we're in the middle of the show and definitely not when they make you drool on my desk.
Welcome to the Trivia Room.
What up, Owen?
Everett, what's up, my guy?
What's good, Ryan?
I feel like I just woke up, but need to go back to sleep.
I need to take a proper nap after the show.
That sounds like a great idea.
I'd love a nap.
Did you hear that I got to drop a bucket of ice-cold water on Ryan?
I did.
That was the highlight of my day, to be honest.
Mine too.
Guys, I'm right here.
I can hear everything you're saying.
Wanna rock some trivia, Everett?
I will never pass on a chance to do trivia.
Alright, then step right up to the Trivia Throne.
What is going on here?
Trivia!
We've been talking about mental health today and the impact of phones and screens can have.
Devices and apps are designed to keep people engaged, always wanting more and more.
What is a known hack to regulate your own screen time with your phone?
Is it A, enable all notifications and turn the sound all the way up.
B, turn the brightness all the way up and hold the phone as close as possible so you can see every pixel.
C, turn off the colors on your device so it's grayscale.
D. Only use your left pinky to navigate through your device.
Ooh, this is a good one.
I think I know the answer.
I'm curious about D using your pinky, because I've never tried that, but I'm gonna guess C.
The answer is C.
Turning off your colors on your device so it's grayscaled is an effective way to regulate your screen time.
Grayscale removes all the colors and only has shades of gray, white or black.
Our eyes are generally attracted to bright and shiny things.
So when you go gray scale, it makes it much less attractive and fun, even boring.
Notifications and sounds are also ways devices can get your attention.
So I like to have them turned off.
And the brightness on your device can make it hard to fall asleep.
So it's good to turn it down or into night mode at least an hour before bed or when the sun goes down.
I haven't tried the pinky method, Which I just made up.
I might give it a go after that nap.
Great idea.
Thanks for having me, Owen.
Thanks for stopping by, Everett.
How you feeling, Rye?
Better, thanks.
I think I'm going to go fully analog for the next 48 hours and not do any screens.
And then work on better habits and limits after that.
That sounds smart and incredibly responsible of you.
What do you want to do instead of screens?
I am so glad you asked.
I was thinking we could start at the bowling alley, followed by a pickup game of Capture the Flag at the park.
And we'll definitely be hungry, so we'll obviously need a pizza tour, followed by an ice cream adventure.
I'd like to try at least two different flavors of ice cream and three different kinds of pizza.
Okay, that sounds like a tall order, but honestly, very doable.
I'm in!
Yes!
Hey, we should do ten new snaps before we go.
And before that, a quick note for the grown-ups.
It's time for ten new snaps!
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Ryan, do a Nintendo Switch 2 episode again, and here's some support.
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The next Nintendo Switch 2 announcement will be on April 2nd, so I'll definitely do a special report right after that.
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I'm Pamela Kirkland.
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