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You know what, you ruined the moment.
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Yes, please. Well, I mean, I guess all robot food is fast food.
You see, we don't even wait to chew our food before we swallow it.
Ooh, kids! Don't try that at home.
We try to eat as quickly as possible because the faster the food goes down, the better the burp.
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Okay, and why do you try to eat so fast to generate burps?
I'm a sound effects robot, Debra, And making fast food burping sounds is just plain fun.
And then I can save each burp sound into my burping folder.
Let's see if I can play one for you.
That was my whipped cream covered lasagna burp.
Ooh delightful. That was the meatloaf seltzer burp.
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Now please tell us about how our game works.
Every week, we bring on two grown -ups, one, whoo, yeah, expert, other, boo, liar, and it's the job of a human child, woo -hoo, to help us figure out who's who, because no one can spot a liar better than a kid.
What are we lying about today, Deborah?
We are lying about bowling, a game in which large, heavy balls are rolled down a lane to knock down pins.
Let's learn about bowling with our Big Fib Contestant.
Who would our contestant be today, Lisa?
Our human child contestant is a 10 -year -old who wants to be a marine biologist, Jackson Todd.
Hello, Jackson Todd.
How are you? Good. Excellent.
Tell us, why do you want to be a marine biologist?
Because I believe that fish are friends, and I love the ocean.
Yes, the ocean sounds lovely and looks lovely and is lovely to be in.
It's like a bowling alley.
It's like a bowling alley.
We are going to learn more about you Jackson.
We are going to do that by playing two truths and a lie.
You Jackson will tell us three facts about yourself.
Two of those facts will be in fact true.
One of those facts will be in fact, a lie.
And we have to figure out which one it is.
Jackson, tell us your three facts.
I can solve a three by three Rubik's cube in less than two minutes.
Whoa. I have a fish named Bubbles.
I wrote a book called Operation Aqua.
Okay, well I feel like this could be a trap in some way.
What do you think Lisa?
Yes, it's clearly a trap, but I am too clever to fall into it.
He says he wrote a book titled Operation Agua?
Aqua. Aqua. Aqua. see that was the first part of his trap very clever he says he is a pet fish named bubbles mm -hmm yes and previously he said the fish are friends he says he can solve a three by three Rubik's Cube and less than two minutes he does say that he says all these things but what he does not say and I present to you now his friend the fish yes is named Ronald Nice try, dude.
OK, is that true? Which one of those facts is actually a lie?
I have a fish named Bubbles!
You got it correct!
Told you! Yeah, it's Ronald.
Oh my gosh, Lisa. I don't even have a fish!
He doesn't even have a fish!
I knew it was a trap!
I will, once I have space for it.
Oh, you don't need space for it.
You need water for it.
Yeah, but how... Unless you're getting a space fish.
Where would I put the water?
Good question. You got pockets, don't you?
Get a pocket aquarium!
That was very good lying.
I have to say Jackson which means to me you're probably gonna figure out who our liar is pretty easily That's what I'm thinking.
And what do you know about bowling Jackson?
Have you ever gone bowling?
Yes, I have In fact, my brother was in a bowling tournament Wow, that's cool.
So you went to go see him play No, it was before I was born.
Oh I see Okay, but maybe it's just in the blood right something you just born to do and born knowing about All right, we are going to get on with the game Lisa.
Can we get some music for our bowling experts?
Brr brr brr brr brr brr brr brrr!
Here they come. They're half the balls in their hands.
And watch out, pins, they're bowling experts!
Yeah! That's rocking!
OK, our first expert is Tom Frenzel.
Tom, please introduce yourself to Jackson.
Hi, I'm Tom Frenzel and I am a bowling scientist. OK, thank you, Tom.
Let's meet our second expert, Molly Carmona.
Molly, please introduce yourself to Jackson.
Hello, I'm Molly and I'm a professional bowler with the PWBA.
what? Tell us about those sounds you're rolling out Lisa.
I'm rolling out sounds because it's hot seat time!
That is correct it is hot seat time that's when we put our experts on the hot seat while they answer Jackson's questions.
Lisa, whom should we put on the hot seat first?
I'm going with Molly Carmona because her name sounds like Holy Canoli which is fun to shout.
You ever shouted, holy Canoli and then you could do Molly Come on.
Oh, yeah, that does have a ring to it I kind of like it.
Sort of fun. I like it.
It's what I do on the weekends Nice.
Okay Jackson, you're gonna ask your first question to Molly.
What is that question?
What was the scariest thing that ever happened in your work?
Yeah, I think the scariest thing was at one of my early tournaments in my professional career I was in the middle of a swing and my index finger hadn't totally released from the ball when it was flying through the air so I actually dislocated my playing finger and it was more scary than dangerous, it was very painful but you know with uh physical therapy and everything, we're back in the saddle.
Oh my gosh. There's a saddle in bowling?
There was that day, yes.
I see. Okay, now take it away, Jackson.
This is for both of you.
How did you get into the bowling business?
So for me, I have always enjoyed bowling from when I was a kid.
And there's a movie that I watched that really got me into it.
If you remember the Flintstones movie, I think just watching the characters kind of do the Twinkle Toes thing was always very fun for me.
So I asked my parents to take me bowling and they saw that I really had a love for it and not just a talent but I really, really enjoyed it.
So I signed up for my high school league and then bowled for my college team in Boston, Massachusetts, and was scouted to join the PWBA and I've been bowling ever since for about 10 years.
Wow. Okay, Tom? Sure.
We all love Fred Flintstone.
He's great. Kind of similar.
I started taking bowling lessons when I was 11, I got into it because my brother was into it and I wanted to be like my big brother.
But we took bowling lessons and bowled league until we're about ready to go to college and we dropped out of it for a while.
But I ended up going to college and getting a degree in physics, and I was looking for a job after college and I wasn't really finding much. And when I found the posting for bowling research engineer, I'm like, okay, I got youth bowling and I've got physics.
So if I don't get this, I'm not going to get a job.
So luckily I got that job.
And I've been here for about eight years now.
Yeah, because everyone knows that when you study physics, that's a path to bowling.
Naturally. It's a gateway, yeah.
Go ahead, Jackson. What are the requirements or experience needed to get your job, and that one's for Molly?
Well, I think really the beautiful thing about professional bowling is that it really just comes down to the talent, as long as you have experience with bowling, and you're able to compete at that level.
One thing I guess you need is an agent.
So I was bowling for my college team.
And then after I graduated, I was put in contact with somebody from one of my networks on the bowling team, someone who could help sort of make the connections between me and the professionals.
And so I guess that's one thing that you need.
But I think it's one of the fairer sports where there aren't as many barriers to entry because it's really just talent and having someone who can make the first connection for you.
Hmm. Tom, how was bowling invented?
That's a great question.
And honestly, it dates all the way back to the Egyptians.
So, I mean, people have been setting up sticks and knocking them down with balls for a very, very, very long time.
It was popularized in America in the 1800s and it got more and more popular.
And my company that I worked for was actually founded in 1895 as the American Bowling Congress.
So we've got about 126 years of regulating bowling, including equipment and how the game is played to morph it into what it is today.
The ancient Egyptians, have you've ever seen the pyramids?
those were originally bowling pins not sure about that but surely you've heard the song bowl like an egyptian bow like an egyptian okay oh 190 points yeah that's the one that was a good song yeah classic go ahead jackson all right this one's for both of you how are bowling balls made you have to pick them when they're ripe and you pick them out the tree and then you peel them and then you polish them and then you drill the holes in.
That's part of the process, Lisa, but I can describe a little bit of it.
Okay, maybe I'm - Please do.
All right, so there are three major parts to a bowling ball.
There's the core, the filler, and the outside, which is called the cover shack in the bowling biz.
And so big motorized machines use polymer blends and sort of take this liquid that then hardens into each of the parts.
So there's a core that kind of looks like a funny oblong box that's full and then that goes on the inside.
Then there's a different kind of plastic that goes around that, that's the round part.
And then there's a harder surface that goes around that...
Those are the three parts and then they paint it with all the fun colors and that's called the veneer.
and then a big machine uses water and kind of sanding paper to sand it down, depending on the level of performance that the ball needs to do.
So at your recreational bowling alley, those balls tend to have, like, less friction and can do kind of different things that a professional bowling ball would do.
And then, finally, the finger holes are drilled in.
GIGI Laura FERRARA Some people who have really sharp fingers, they don't even have to drill them in, they just like poke their fingers in, you know, maybe robots can do that, but not humans.
That's what I meant when I said people, I mean, robots.
I always forget. Yeah.
Not everyone has drill fingers.
Correct. Yeah. Which is a shortcoming.
It is. It's true. The fun part is bowling balls.
Usually they have three finger holes, but they can actually have up to 10 depending on what you want to do with the ball.
So if you want to do like a two handed throw or you just want to have different options for where you place your fingers, you can do that.
And in my collection of balls, cause as a professional, I just have a bunch of bowling balls from over the years, I have one with 10.
And that's one of my favorites.
That's actually against the rules.
Oh? Is it? Is it? You can have up to one hole per gripping hole per finger in your bowling ball, but you can only use one hand.
Hmm. All right, but hold on, hold on.
What about spider players?
You can bowl with two hands, but you can only have holes for one hand.
That is true, but it would still be allowed. So I'm going to allow this rule.
OK, Jackson, interesting that we have some controversy on the bowling lane, but going back to you now.
All right. This is for Tom.
What changes do you see, if any, to bowling as a sport?
Oh, well, there's a lot of up and coming new technologies and bowling.
One of the most prevalent new technologies is the string pin setter.
So versus traditional pins, which we call free -fall, are set by a machine that lets go of them in spot.
Manufacturers are making a new type of machine that hoists the pins up with strings.
And what that does is it removes some moving parts in the machines, it makes them run on less energy, more efficient, there's lots of good business reasons for it.
So one of my research projects has been actually researching how does that change the game?
If you operate the pins that way.
Some other companies like the World Bowling just changed their brand to the International Bowling Federation.
They like to play around with the format of bowling as far as how it's scored or how many people bowl in a single game, and ultimately their goal is to figure out, how is bowling going to end up in the Olympics as an Olympic sport?
So that's one of the over arcing things that bowlings wanted to do for a long time is join the Olympics.
Hopefully one day we'll get there.
that'd be a really nice good thing for bowling.
Absolutely. Those were excellent questions.
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Okay. It's time for the shorts on fire round, and that is when our experts have to answer as many questions as they can before time runs out.
Lisa will set a timer for the first expert, and then Jackson will ask questions until Lisa's timer sounds.
Then Lisa resets the timer for our next expert to do the same.
Experts, get ready to strike while the iron's hot.
Jackson, let's start with Tom.
You can ask him your shorts on fire questions now.
How many pins are set up in a bowling frame?
Ten. How fast can a pro bowler throw a bowling ball?
They can throw a bowling ball sometimes as fast as 30 miles an hour.
What is it called when you bowl nine strikes in a row?
a nine bagger called a wahoo what letter do we use on a score sheet when we get a strike?
an X what is it called when a bowler repeats shots?
repeatability what is this special kind of spare that leaves four pins in the shape of a diamond?
the bucket the oopsie named a bowling alley where fred flintstone went bowling the quarry lanes I don't know Why do different bowling lanes play differently?
Different friction on the lane and different oil patterns put out on the lane.
Name one difference between house bowling balls and custom bowling balls.
The biggest difference is the cover stock material.
And that is time. That is the time of our lives.
We just have it. That was it!
No more time. Okay, we are going to reset the timer, aren't we Lisa?
You know I had it on my To -Do list for tomorrow, but I'll just do it today.
I appreciate that. No time like the present.
Okay, Jackson will ask questions for Molly now.
How many strikes do you need to get a perfect score of 300?
12 strikes. What force causes spinning balls to curve or hook?
The centrifugal force.
What is it called when a bowler gets four strikes in a row?
That's called a tetrad.
Who was the youngest bowler to ever score a perfect game in an event at the age of nine years old?
And over first it was Hannah… Past. Hannah Montana.
What do you call bowlers who use a lot of wrist action to put a high number of turns and power into their shots?
Crackers. Show -offs.
That too. What is the bowling game where the gutters are all blocked?
Oh, that's bumper bowling!
What is it called when there are two or more pins that are separated by a large gap on in the second shot?
Split. A problem. That was the character who fell asleep for 20 years after playing nine pins all night and woke up after he slept through the American revolution.
Oh, I have a cat named this.
Rube Van Winkle. Okay, that is time.
That is time. Very good.
That was great. That match felt like a clean game for both of you.
It's decision time.
Jackson must split truth from lies to figure out who is fibbing.
Jackson, who is our big fibber?
I think it's Molly.
Why do you think Molly is our big fibber?
Tom gave more um, explanatory, however you say that word. He gave a lot more big answers.
Mm -hmm. And uh, Molly, I couldn't, a lot of stuff, some of it was correct, some of it I don't think was.
Okay, okay. That's why I think that Molly is the liar.
Okay, so Tom used a lot of details and explanations.
Molly's questions, you're skeptical about a couple of the answers.
Very good thinking, I like all of that logic.
But let's see if you are correct.
Will the bowling expert please say, I am the bowling expert.
I'm Tom Frenzel and I'm the bowling expert.
You got it right Jackson.
Oh my gosh, that's right.
Tom Frenzel is a bowling science expert who oversees research projects at the United States Bowling Congress, a nonprofit that provides rules and regulations for certified bowling competitions for the entire country.
How cool! Okay, that was very good, Jackson.
I'm very impressed.
But it is time to do some fact -checking.
Tom, let's address some of the lies you heard. Well, the first thing that was skeptical was actually the first question when you asked her something scary, and she said she dislocated her, I think she said ring finger, it's actually much more common for a thumb to get injured than a finger.
Oh, dear. Interchangeable thumb inserts can break and come out mid -release and they can really hurt your thumb joint.
Interesting. Okay. In addition to that I brought up that she was talking about bowling with illegal equipment that had too many holes in it.
I couldn't let that slide because I'm in the equipment specs department so I can't let that slide.
You had to speak up.
10 holes was pretty suspicious.
It was but i bought it.
I thought it was a possibility.
It's believable if you read our manual it says one hole per finger but then it also says for one hand only.
The next thing i heard is she said something about having an agent to be a professional bowler.
Professional bowlers don't have agents.
Well maybe they should.
For the most part they're on their own for getting to and from events and figuring that aspect out of it.
Okay but once they bring bowling on to the Olympics i think that'll change the whole game.
Maybe, you know, the the PBA's got a league where they have teams in cities now, they bowl every summer, you can watch the PBA league.
So that's fun. Yeah.
We have team USA. This is a group about 20 male and female athletes actually train here in Arlington, Texas.
Cool. So we do have some teams in addition to the professional tours.
But most of the tours are individual competition.
Okay, of course she mentioned like an oblong box, which is not wrong, but they can really come in any shape and size.
And then I would just add that cover stocks really come in three main flavors.
Polyester is the lowest friction that slides the furthest. Urethane is kind of a middle ground, and the ones that really hooked the most are called reactive resin.
So, your explanation definitely got the gist of it, but there's just a little bit deeper.
Yes. The video that I watched to teach me about bowling balls didn't tell me about the three kinds of cover stocks, so I appreciate it, Tom.
Did you watch, like, the How It's Made on YouTube from, like, 15 years ago?
Yes, I did. Yeah, it's a really good video.
It's a really good video.
Good. Okay, you heard it here.
Okay, Molly, which facts did you share that were a complete washout?
Well, Tom was right about the details that I, you know, fibbed about.
But also, the force causing spinning balls to curve or hook is friction, not the centripetal force.
Oh, that sounded good, yeah.
and when a bowler gets four strikes in a row, that is a hambone.
Yeah, but I like your name better.
The tetrad, I'm going to start calling it the tetrad.
Oh nice, that's what you started Molly, that's awesome.
Excellent, excellent.
And then of course, the thing about the agents, but when I become a professional bowler in my third career, I'm going to have an agent.
Good, we're going to look out for that.
Okay, and the youngest bowler to ever score a perfect game was actually Hannah Diem.
She was nine years old, which is pretty impressive.
I have to say, and the name of the bowling alley where Fred Flintstone went bowling was bedrock bowl.
Hmm. Yeah, that's a good one.
Makes sense. We are approaching the position round of our match and we must take our leave. Thanks to our contestant Jackson.
A full roller of fact finding.
Thank you to our expert and liar, Tom and Molly, and to our anchor of audio, Lisa.
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