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Brian, It's great to have you here.
Yeah. Thanks for having me here.
Yeah. I wanted to dive in straight away and just to ask you what drives someone to spend $2 million to not die?
I think it's very confusing to a lot of people.
I think when you read the headlines and you view I'm just unintelligible by most people.
And I think if you look back you know, let's just say we fast -forward a few hundred years and you live in the 25th century and you're reading the history books of this time and place.
I think it'd be pretty obvious to them.
They would say like, Oh, of course.
That's when humans figured out they were transitioning from die to don't die.
Like that's the big thing.
Like they had the technological and medical progress to say, they could now begin extending their lifespans to some displays.
So I think it really just, we're on this inevitable trajectory towards radically standing how long and how well we can live.
And I'm really the forerunner in trying to start that process.
And how did you compute the amount of 2 million?
How did it get to that?
Like, what does that involve and include to get to that level?
So the 2 million is primarily spent on the research and the measurement.
And so the actual, what I do day -to -day is very low cost.
I'd say the majority of people can afford it.
Most things are actually free.
So a lot of people see the 2 million dollar headline and they think, Oh, this can't be achievable or reachable for me, but it actually is.
And so what we did that was unique is, when you're trying to to do something to improve your health and wellness, it's important you can verify it does or doesn't work.
Like if you hear a story about drinking this kind of drink is good for your health, it's a story until you can measure it, and say it has this kind of change in the body and either it increases your biological age or lowers it or something else.
And so I became the most measured person in history, and that's really expensive.
So the really, the expensive portions have been measuring every organ in my body.
The actual protocols are really low cost.
What was the most expensive thing to measure?
It really is in chasing the cumulative measurement across the entire body.
For example, I've spent more time in an MRI than anyone in the world.
I think of this new technology called DNA methylation, you're looking at these patterns in the body.
I'm the most measured person with that DNA methylation in the world.
And so doing this consistently, routinely, we do thousands of data points a week.
And so I think it's just all of these things adding up.
It's just expensive to do the test, analyze the data, continually have that process.
We need like a large team to do it.
Yeah, do any of the measurement tools have adverse effects on health?
Yeah, MRI we think is very safe.
But CT, I've only been once.
I just did a calcium score, and then we do blood draws.
I've done a ton of blood work.
We did ultrasound on my veins a while back and to see if we had scar tissue that had been building up because I've done so much blood draw, we couldn't find any scar tissue.
So we do actually measure for negative repercussions of are we measuring too much to the extent of damage So like we're even measuring the measurement so in every way we can possibly interrogate the body We're trying to acquire data.
And how did you pick the areas to measure?
Like how were you able to say these are the five eight I don't know how many there are metrics that I believe are the most important to longevity How do we even know what are the things to focus on?
We looked at every organ So if you, we have roughly 70 plus organs depending on how you count.
And so you can say I'm chronologically 47 years old, but that's not really a useful number.
It's like a general approximation that if you measure the heart, you can say, okay, what is the biological age of the heart?
And you can then dissect that and say, what is the structural age of the heart?
And then what is the functional age of the heart?
Like you can look at the functional age of like, what is the max heart rate?
You know, you could take two 20 and minus your age roughly for a rough calculation.
you look at the, the valves, and you look at all the cell types, and so you can break each organ down into a different ways to understand what is this biological age.
So for example, like my heart is 37.
My left ear is 64. My diaphragm is age 18, and so you can any part of the body, any organ or biological process, you can assign an age score if you've got data to show, data to make that comparison.
Your left ear is 64.
Yeah. Walk me through that.
I shot a lot of guns as a kid.
And so I would, you know, aim the gun like this with this left ear exposed sound, this ear was more protected and then also loud music.
And so yeah, if this is a thing is like now when I'm at social events, I have this app on my phone, Decibel, where like last night I was at a social event and the room was 105 decibels.
So anything over 80 can cause hearing damage.
So just in a social environment When people are talking at a voice that's loud enough for the other person to hear, you've got sustained ear hearing damage.
Yeah, interesting. I think it's something we don't realize.
I saw my mum lose her hearing in one ear and the other one pretty weak.
And it's been really sad to watch because it's completely changed her personality.
Exactly. And it's completely changed her ability to connect in a conversation.
She's super fun, she's bubbly, conversated.
And as soon as she started losing her hearing and the hearing aid technology's definitely not caught up with any of the technology you're talking about.
We've got to the best ones that I possibly could know about.
And it's still so hard for her to engage and it's such an underrated part of human life.
Like you don't think losing your hearing may be that impactful.
It's huge. Entirely true.
And we've tried for the past few years.
So we take all these measurements and we say like what is the biological age of Blank Organ.
And then we say, all right, now we've reviewed all the scientific literature ris out there, how do you either slow down that speed of aging or reverse aging damage?
So, for example, my left ear we've said, can you take my left ear from age 64 to age 63 and 62 and all the way down to like age 18.
And so in that case, we've had no success with hearing.
There are a few stem cell therapies that are in research, but no effective treatment.
So we've had no success at all.
So once you lose it, right now it's gone.
Whereas other parts of my body, like my speed of aging and my heart and my lungs.
We've had great success lowering that biological age.
If you look at it anatomically or functionally.
And so some things we've had great success, but this is the point where.
When people look at me and they say, you know, the guy is so busy trying not to die, he's forgetting how to live.
And the flip side of that is when you, you lose function movement, eyesight hearing, right, your life begins to deteriorate to degrees, like your mother saw in ways you can't even imagine.
And so it really is like this respect for our conscious existence and our biological capabilities.
And so really, I think that's what I'm trying to do is I take that.
The new virtue is caring for our conscious existence and not being whimsical and throwing it away with behaviors that just are not necessary.
Yeah. It's so funny, isn't it?
It's really interesting how we judge intentionality and you only recognize how intentional you wish you were when you lose something.
And it's like that I think there's that famous quote that says the best time to plant a tree was like a 100 years ago, but otherwise it's today like the idea of like, you just never gonna, you will always feel you wish you started earlier, always.
But that only hits you when sadly something really bad goes offer, bad happens and then you're like, gosh I wish I thought about this when I was 25, 20, etc.
And, yeah, so, I mean, when, I'm thinking about what you're saying, what is there an age or damage level from which there is no return?
What parts of the body, is there a specific age where you're like, have you this chronological age and you're biological age of this body part?
Is this, it's over?
I guess the, this is, I think the coolest question right now is that in previous time periods, you were born and you died in predictable fashions There was nothing you could do to stop the process.
And so now what's different is that we are making progress on age related decline even before a baby's conceived.
So now there's embryo selection, right?
So it's don't die is happening before conception, and then in recent studies have shown that you can take a mouse and it's like last week of life and regenerate it and double the lifespan of that mouse.
And so we have technologies that can extend life before conception midlife, and even at the end of life.
And so now that's, I'm saying this is really, it's full spectrum that there is no point of no return at this, at this moment.
I mean, in this moment, yes.
But like increasingly it's becoming this open question is there.
And I think that's the most interesting and exciting thing.
And my dad is 71. I think most of his friends are just like, we're getting close.
It's almost time. But man, he's got this ferociousness to live life that I'm really inspired by.
Yeah. That's brilliant.
And what age are you hoping?
Or I guess you don't have to hope, predicting to live to.
I don't think that any human can say anything intelligent more than one year from now.
Like we like, we can say, you know, we think the earth is going to continue to orbit around the sun with a certain degree of stability.
And in terms of like how long are we going to live?
How will cultural norms persist?
What will be normal?
What will not be normal?
I think, given how fast AI is developing, we cannot say anything intelligent beyond here.
Right, but your physical self?
You still feel that?
Yeah. I think that, if you look at some of the best AI companies, like Dario fromLa shoulders Live with this blog books where he's imagining, and I agree with him, that it's possible we make a hundred years worth of progress in the next five years.
What would bring up these new AI models that we can do things that otherwise would take us 100 years to do.
Now that does not mean that these therapies will be available overnight.
Like we still have to go through the process, but I do think that we are looking at this possibility.
So it's Like when I say things like we may be the first generation to not die, people are like stupid.
Like, no, I get that from like this vantage point.
We can't see how the pieces of the puzzle come together.
Like it's not clear to us which things do what and went.
But that's not the point, it's really, you're trying to pattern match large macro scale trends.
And if you say how fast is intelligence moving?
And when you acquire intelligence, what can that intelligence do?
On a macro scale, I think it really is a robust hypothesis that we maybe the first generation should not die.
And what kind of compromise do you think that's going to take on a personal level?
Or sacrifice and you may not use those words, but if someone was looking at it and was thinking about it from that perspective.
If we just put this in context that's imagine you and I traveled back in time a million years ago and we're with homo erectus and we say, homo erectus, tell us about the future of intelligent existence.
Like, what are we going to evolve into?
Right now, homo erectus has models maybe of hunting of like, you know, weather patterns or of like danger, but homo erectus is not going to be able to tell you.
That in this new science field called biology, we're going to figure out that there's molecules and we're going to, or they're not going to be able to tell you that in this new world of quantum mechanics or in this new world of Silicon Transistors, they don't have any models to articulate what things
could come about and why?
And so they just lack any models to articulate anything intelligent.
And so I wonder in this moment, if we are just like Homo erectus.
Where if you say like, what will the future bring?
What will the norms be, what will our proclivities be, what will we want?
We have no idea, we don't have any models to help us understand.
And so That's why I think that if you want to be a genius, lean into that you probably don't know, that everything we think we have known is now going to be called into question and that the new genius is leaning into the unknown.
Yeah, how bad was your health before all of this?
Awful, like the worst, so I started entrepreneurship as 21 years old, I started building companies and the ethos is you know you would hear stories of like so and so stayed up two nights in a row Like imagine they go to coding all night, they're amazing, they're a genius.
They're so, you know, great.
And so that story would be like a status symbol.
Like they're important, they have power that you should respect them.
And those stories propagate that others are like, I want to have status and I want to be respected and I want to do cool stuff.
And so you repeat these patterns of sleep deprivation and you know, harming your health.
Now let's just foolishness like that.
We know from the evidence that you stay up for over 24 hours, you're legally drunk like you're just as intoxicated, had you consumed, like you're a .08 alcohol level.
And so, uh, we've really bought into this myth.
I did it myself. And so I ran myself ragged, like just awful, terrible sleep, terrible diet.
I was depressed for 10 years.
So I was kind of obsessed with killing myself.
Or 10 years. And it was the most awful decade of existence.
So I was, that was my starting point.
And so now, I mean, I arguably have the best biomarkers of anyone in the world.
I've openly shared all my information, they're publicly posted, and arguably down the line like 10, 15, 20 measurements.
And so it's been actually really motivating that if you can start where I was and then turn this hard others can do the same.
So to me it's been a really motivating experience that your body is highly responsive to change.
Was there a diagnosis or a particular day or event that happened that made you go, this is my turning point?
Like I grew up on Biographies.
I understand the world through biographies and I just love reading about people, in time and place who are able to, like, snatch out of the ether the future.
Like the future is always present.
It's just that it's very hard to see and then over time we look back on it, oh, of course that was a future in that moment.
And like a certain people saw it.
And so I came up with this question at 21, like what is the future of existence on a time scale a few hundred years into the future?
and I basically grappled with that problem for 20 plus years.
And I didn't know what to do, so I said I'm going to go be an entrepreneur, I'm going to make a whole bunch of money.
And with that money, then I'll try to do something interesting.
So like it's, it's kind of been this like 25 -year -long journey for me to like try to identify something that would have the power of changing the course of humanity.
And just in the past 12 months, I think it finally all came together.
How old were you when you decided to make the shift to say I'm going to start turning back the clock?
My childhood was 43, I'm now 47.
from seven to four years ago.
You from four years ago.
Right. And at which age do you wish you started a habit today after that?
I wish I would have been an embryo selected based upon genetic markers.
Walk me through that.
I mean, like, now, when you're going through fertility, you could create a bunch of embryos and choose the best embryo along certain dimensions.
I'm like most humans on the planet where I was just born to the typical process of, with now, you can really go in that earlier stage.
And so I wish it was happening before conception.
And then I wished growing up, you know, like my, I grew up in Utah, which was very much a culture of a sugar cereal.
You know, soda excess of sun exposure without some protection terrible sleep like I just grew up in a culture that was extremely destructive to health and wellness.
And so my entire life has actually been in this American culture and it's it was consuming microplastics from like the earliest days like all of us have been.
And so I would say, yeah, I really wish it would have started before birth if not before then, very early in my childhood.
I wish I wouldn't have been consuming sugar and things like that, which really adds...
Those have longterm complications that we just, I'm not sure we're fully aware of them.
Yeah. For those that don't know, walk us through the microplastics because I feel like that's been a trending term right now.
People are becoming more and more aware, walk it through for someone who's unaware of what's happening there.
Yes. I mean like on a large scale like my grandfather was full of lead, my parents are full of asbestos and now I'm full of microplastics right?
Every generation has kind of had their environmental toxin that has been a very a scourge in the world now.
Microplastics have been this recent phenomenon because plastics is a very low cost and high quality material and so they're everywhere.
And so a microplastic is less than five millimeters in length and we we get them in our bodies, either by inhaling them, by ingesting them or through our skin.
Like in the average male testicle, there's 8 .2 milligrams of microplastics.
In the average brain, there's 50 % more microplastics now than there was 10 years ago.
So it's it's increasing really, really fast.
And so my company Blueprint, we just launched the world's first at home microplastics test.
Like we were realizing that this is a major problem And we, the difficulty is we don't have any data like no one knows what these levels are in their life.
And they, without that data, how do you know what things are working?
Like if you stop drinking water out of plastic bottles, what happens?
You know, like what happens if you change the clothing you wear, what happens if, you know, Etc CENTRA.
And so yeah, I have my levels measured, my whole team did it, mine came back lower than my, anyone on my team.
And we have reasons why we think that's the case, but we're not quite sure.
So excited that we'll have the world's largest data set of microplastics in the next month.
And then as a community, we can start saying, like, now let's all start running these tests and let's build therapies.
So we can start doing things to minimize microplastics in the body.
And what are the adverse effects of microplastics?
I mean, for example, women that have higher levels of BPA have were had fewer eggs retrieved, so it affects, you know, very, the fundamental processes of the body, uh, it's been tied to all kinds of things.
Neurodegeneration, all kinds of...
related to microplastics.
Now, the science is still emergent and we're still figuring it out, but it's not a situation where we're saying micro -plastics are a good idea and you should consume more, it's a situation where we are consuming an enormous amount of them.
We think they're causing very serious health problems.
It may be worse than we think so it's really an area that we need to understand better, but I think minimization is probably the most important step right now.
So what are three simple steps that someone could take right now to minimize their influx of micro plastics.
Water is one of the worst offenders.
So don't drink out of plastic water bottles.
Number two, is have a water filter at home.
So I have a reverse osmosis system at my house.
It's very good. It's so cool.
Its a reverse osmosis.
Is there a brand? There's a bunch of brands who make it.
Who do you recommend?
Mine is custom -made.
So on my website I have my water filter system listed out of every component.
So if you go to blueprint .bronjarssen .com and my protocol I have it listed there.
And if you're in the United States, the guy who set it up for me, I have his number and name.
If you want to just call him there's other systems that are better comfortable that at $300, so it's a very common technology.
It's easily accessible.
Uh, but have that in your home is a water filter because microplastics are in water.
And so that's why when people, they say like, um, well, I get my food at a farmer's market, therefore, right.
But they don't realize that the, the water that is, you know, coming there to, for the farm is like could be filled with microplastics and so there's just, there's no safe place anywhere, for microplastics.
Um, number two is for example, canned soups, uh, in one study, they showed that a person who consumed canned soup for one week increased their levels by 20 full, just in one week.
Gigantic. Also be aware of, of clothing.
So try to use, you know, like hemp, cotton, silk, et cetera.
Use a HEPA filter when you're vacuuming, because they can be airborne in the house.
Don't handle receipts.
That has a lot of plastic microplastics.
Using cookware that have the stainless steel or cast iron instead of nonstick is really helpful.
But there's, those are the kind of the big ones to be aware of.
If you go through your house environment, just say like, where is plastic?
You might find you have a plastic cutting board, you might find you have plastic kitchen utensils, You might have plastic plates.
So just be plastic aware.
And once you have that mindset, you're going to realize that plastic is like everywhere.
So just slowly make progress and trying to replace that with stainless steel, aluminum and things like that.
What's fascinating is you have no idea how it's entering the system.
Yes. Because it's not a physical tangible experience.
You're not like feeling something.
Exactly. Merging into your skin.
Yeah. Walk us through the what I was thinking about as you were talking is this idea of What happens to water in a plastic bottle versus a glass bottle?
Yeah, I mean, you're getting leeching from the plastic.
And so what, I think the average plastic bottle has I think, 200 ,000 microplastic particles, something like that.
So it's a very large amount and so generally speaking, so I've just made this rule.
Like today, I brought my stainless steel.
I just carry this around with me everywhere I go as my primary container for liquid, but yeah, so just try to avoid plastic as a water bottle generally.
And the thing is, like most, um, on a more, on a bigger scale, the things which we can't see are now humanity's biggest threats.
Like are we felt we're evolved to say, is there a line in the bush or not?
You know, we, can we sense it?
Can we smell it? Can we see it?
Whereas now the dangers of like CO2 build up in the atmosphere, we can see it, we can't smell it.
Like we don't, we don't know what exists.
So the only thing we know how it exists, if we see a like a number on a screen, it's like, this is bad.
because this number, we're like, what does that mean?
We can't see it. There's no real threat.
The same with microplastics.
It's like this unknown threat.
We can't see it. We can't feel it.
And so that's why like what I've been doing is I've been trying to say like we, the reason why we measure everything is to basically give your body super powers of awareness.
It's like now we understand like what's happening when you ingest fast food or you understand what happens when you ingest microplastics, what happens when you ingest, when you don't sleep well.
Like you see the whole system effect, and so it's really cool in real time to see like actually yes, like for example, one night of bad sleep can, I think it's four hours or less, reduces your NK cells by 70%.
Your NK cells are what's killing cancer cells, so like your army of defense systems, you got 70 % of your army is wiped out after one bad night of sleep.
And so it just has these really catastrophic effects.
I'd never heard that before.
Yeah. Or like, there's this thing called.
S 100 B. And so you want these levels to be like in between 20 and a hundred Mine are 663 .8 when you don't sleep, well, it's a toxin that gets inside the brain.
Cause the blood brain barrier breaks down when you have a bad night's sleep, it's the same level as a traumatic brain injury.
And so like the body's responding as though you had a traumatic brain injury from one bad night of sleep.
So these things accumulate over time.
That's why sleep is so critical, it's why this culture of entrepreneurship is like sleep on your dead is so lethal to your wellness.
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I'm so glad you're talking about it and I love the, you know that idea that it's almost like the worst prison that you can be in is one where you don't know you've got handcuffs on?
Yeah, yeah. Like, you don't realise it and I mean social media is kind of like that like you're in this prison of a world and you don't even realise you're being trapped and our health's the same way.
My friend's dad was in town from London a couple of weeks back and he has this app on his phone that shows the air pollution.
I don't know what it's called?
IQ Air. Right, okay and he had it on his phone and he lives outside of the city of London so he's not really in the heart of London and he said that pollution score where my friend grew up, where my wife grew up is around two, I think it's on a scale of zero to 100 unless I'm wrong and he did it here
in LA and it was 60 and to me, when I wake up, I feel like thesh, everyone knows LA is polluted but I don't feel that.
I don't know that. Whereas, like if I go to a certain country in the world which is known for its horrific air pollution, I can somewhat tell the difference.
But it was like I could tell no difference from this between where my wife grew up in England yet it's extraordinarily different.
Yeah, that's right, yeah.
On the air pollution I agree with you.
Yes, sir. I mean, I live in LA as well.
So, I have an air measurement device in every room of my house and filters And so we measure the air quality in every single room 24 seven.
So you're right. Like LA air quality is typically around the 60 mark, which is like, kind of bad, but in my house it's perfect.
It's zero. And so I'm always aware of where the air quality is outside and inside.
So yeah, I wish LA had better air quality.
I love LA for so many reasons.
I really wish the air quality was better, but yeah, I agree with you.
It is a, a significant health threat and it's not a good idea to have a lot of exposure to that air.
How do we go about purifying air inside of our homes?
Obviously we can't control the air in the city we live in.
Yeah, there's quite a few filters.
I'll give you the names of the ones I use.
But I just have one filter per room and it does a great job taking down multiple contaminants.
So if you're just mindful, like for example, I'd never leave my windows open.
So it's always a pretty tight air block.
I do go outside when the air quality is nice, I try to mindful but also like if we're going to play The basketball game with friends, I'll also do that.
So I kind of have some flexibility, but yeah, you can actually maintain near perfect air quality in the house.
And so if you go to my house, I'd love to have you come see it.
It's basically, we have perfect water, perfect air, it's the optimal state for health across all the spectrum.
And when you talk about water too, have you changed the water you're showering in as well?
Because I think that sometimes that's something me and my wife have been talking about.
We have a reverse osmosis machine for water that we drink.
Yes, but recently we were talking to a skin health expert and he was talking about the water we shower in having a different effect and I literally tested washing my face with the water I drink and washing my face with shower water and he could immediately tell the difference using the tools and devices
He was measuring just with how it affected my skin yes, yeah, that's very true we actually did the same measurements.
Where I took water that was from our filter system
