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Welcome to Feel Better Live More Bitesize.
your weekly dose of positivity and optimism to get you ready for the weekend.
Today's clip is from episode 474 of the podcast with nutrition experts and best -selling author Of Fast Like a Girl and Eats Like a Girl, Dr. Mindy Peltz.
In this clip, Mindy shares how food can be a powerful tool to support your health and wellbeing, where we explore her wonderful foundational five health principles.
Please note, the advice in this episode may not be suitable if you are suffering with or recovering from an eating disorder.
Also, if you have an existing health condition or are taking medication, always consult your healthcare practitioner before going for prolonged periods without eating.
Food is actually a tool to give you the life that you want.
It can take away from the life you want or it can give you the life you want.
It is one of the greatest tools we have access to.
We just haven't been taught about it.
So, I just love to help people understand what are these foods that we need to focus on like foods we need to avoid or foods we need to bring in.
Right. So, the first that I call it the foundational five.
So, in the new book, we talked about there are five guiding principles that every woman needs to follow.
I would say men probably need to follow these too, but I do feel like female bodies are not as forgiving and the large reason behind that is because a male body is number one priority is survival.
A female body has two priorities, survival and reproduction, just so we're clear.
One of the things I'm very concerned about in the health world right now is we have over complicated food.
Right? So when I put these five principles together, I literally thought if I was sitting with somebody who knew nothing about nutrition, was a part of the whole cultural zeitgeist of eating foods to lose weight, diet foods and not reading ingredients, what would I say to them?
And these were the five.
I love it. Well, let's go through these foundational five then the people, you know, start where you want to start.
Okay, well, number one, I hope you see why I put number one on there.
So number one, for those of you who are not seen it, is blood sugar matters, calories don't.
Now, I thought about that sentence a long time because a lot of people are like, calories still matter.
Okay, yes, if we lived in a perfect world where everybody could scan their calorie output and their calorie input every day and figure out exactly how many calories they needed to eat every day, then the calorie would matter, but we don't do that.
We don't have, nobody knows how many calories they can even chart it.
Nobody's gonna keep that chart forever to even figure that out.
It is not an attainable health target.
Blood sugar is, and with blood sugar, one of the things that we can do is we can get a CGM, we can get a little Keto -Mojo blood sugar reader or something like that, but we gotta find ways to help women that have no money.
And what you can do is ask yourself, How do I feel after I eat?
Am I energized? Am I focused?
Do I wanna take a nap?
Am I hungry again? If within two hours after a meal, your energy drops, your brain fog kicks in, you're hungry again, you didn't nail the blood sugar rule, you didn't get that blood sugar combo right.
And that's what I impact in the book is what does that look like with food?
So you should be energized after a meal.
Yeah, I love that. That's a very simple way that doesn't require people to spend any money, they can self -assess.
And I think it speaks to this wider societal problem at the moment with respect to food, which is we're so far removed from how we're meant to eat, how our bodies are meant to eat, that many people think it's normal to feel hungry every two hours.
Right, or sleepy in the afternoon.
They think it's completely normal and I get it's the norm for them.
It doesn't mean it's normal and eating in a way to stabilise your blood sugar is arguably one of the most important things you can do for your short -term health, your long -term health and for how good you feel.
I will put a CGM on at this stage maybe twice a year.
A CGM being a continuous glucose monitor, they last about two weeks.
I can learn which are the foods and which is the style of eating that keeps my blood sugar the most stable.
Whether I have it on or not, when I'm eating like that consistently I feel great.
I sleep well, my focus is great, I don't feel hungry much. I find it easy to resist temptation.
And that's, I think, the other thing which people forget, Mindy, is if you eat in a way that stabilizes your blood sugar, you're having to resist temptation less.
Yes, yes. Do you know what I mean?
If your blood sugar is plummeting, because you had a sugary cereal at 7 a .m. and at 9 .30 or 10, you're feeling jittery and hungry, your blood sugar probably is dropping.
And you do need to have that bagel.
You're gonna struggle, but that isn't the issue.
The issue is what you had two to three hours beforehand.
That's right. I had a really interesting situation.
I'm sure you have this with your kids, when your kids are in different sporting events.
You end up hanging around the parents that are on the sidelines.
I got to know this one woman really well.
She would always ask me questions around nutrition.
And every time I would tell her what I ate or what I did, And she'd be like, I couldn't do that.
I can't do that, I can't do that.
After about a year of this, she said to me one day.
She looked at me and she said, okay, I've watched you almost every weekend, three days a week after school, our kids are here.
And I've finally come to one conclusion about your nutritional theories.
And I'm like, oh, okay, tell me what that is.
She goes, you are not deprived.
I said, I'm not, I'm not deprived at all.
I eat amazing food.
I feel so good after I eat, I sleep so well.
Like food is medicine for me and I am not depriving myself at all and I'm not over there eating like granola bars all day and like food can be incredibly satisfying if we look at it from these five angles that we're going through.
Okay, so keep your blood sugar stable is an important principle.
I would have to say that your foundational five, they're pretty sensible.
Thank you. What I mean by that is you'd struggle, I think, to find people these days disagreeing with those principles.
And I love principles because I think there is too much confusion out there.
I think we have to get to the point where we can listen to experts, but then tune into our own expertise, right?
We have to be able to go, okay, that expert said that, that other expert said that, I like them both, I trust them both, let me figure out what works for me.
Yeah, and one of the things I know from my community is that I have a lot of plant -based people and I have a lot of omnivore people.
And this is what - you do this with your podcast, let's bring everybody into the conversation and let the listener go, hey, when I pull out that tool, that works for me there, and then I put it down and I pull out this tool and that works for me there.
I think we will free people from being either frustrated and confused or from people just going, I feel like I'm failing it at all, which is what I hear a lot of women say.
It's like, I'm just failing at it.
I'm failing at health.
Well, you're failing at the culture's idea of what health should look like for you.
How about we start asking you what your intuitive sense is around your body And now we have, just in that question, now we have taken a woman and we've put her at the beginning of a health path.
And that is what I know you and I are trying to do.
Okay, eat nature's food.
That's number two, right?
Yes. Okay, so this was another interesting one that I saw is that everybody started, instead of counting calories, we got obsessed with counting carbs.
And it got to the point where even the food industry has gotten so sneaky, they started to see that, oh, keto is popular, let me go ahead and create keto foods or let me create gluten -free foods that everybody's gonna wanna eat because they're like, oh, it has these buzzwords on it.
And so I started to tell my community like, okay, let's just make it easy for you.
The carb that is gonna be the healthiest one is the one that came out of the earth.
If it came out of the earth, there is a good chance it has fiber in it, which will help with rule number one, which is support your blood sugar.
So it's getting really difficult to teach people how to read an ingredient label now.
The food industry is really crafty at how they put headlines on things.
So I needed to find a new way to explain this.
And we got so many messages of like, oh today I ate 60 grams net carbs.
Is that gonna mean I'm gonna gain weight?
And I thought, oh God, this is not, we need to free women.
and I don't want women counting carbs instead of calories.
So let's just all of a sudden look at a carb as, is it nature's or is it manmade?
If it is nature's, it's probably a great tool for me.
If it's manmade, not a great tool.
So the more we alter nature's food, the further away we take it's nutritional value.
So if you keep going back to what was the original source that nature provided this.
And how close can I get to that?
We're gonna be able to be in a place where we avoid chemicals and we stabilize blood sugar.
So I have a really interesting concept that would apply to both men and women.
And have you ever gone bowling with your kids where you put up the bumper rails.
Okay. You do that so that the ball doesn't go into the alley.
So I think we should do that with food.
It is a crime at this particular moment what's going on in our food system.
And if you don't have a personal value system, if you don't implement rules for yourself, you are putting yourself on a collision course with chronic disease, men and women, end of story.
That is the moment we're living in.
Yeah. Maybe it's an uncomfortable truth, but it's a truth nonetheless, certainly the way I see life.
is that in the modern food environment, if you don't have some sort of framework that you apply around foods, I think most people are going to struggle.
Because the food is going to encourage you to eat more, you're going to crave more unhealthy foods, you have food available all the time everywhere you go, on an evolutionary level we've never had this before.
Never. We are in the worst food time ever.
Yeah, it's not necessarily your fault or the fact that you are weak that you can't resist. Thank you.
Humans, if you take our hunter -gatherer ancestors and pop them in this environment, they'll also get sick.
Yes. It's not that they have more discipline than us.
It's just, they're in a food landscape where they're not having to make all these choices.
So I think we all need to figure out certain rules that work for us.
And I think that's why so many different diets can work for people because that diet or the name of that style of eating – low -carb, low -fat, whole -food, plant -based, whatever it might be – it gives people a framework and a structure which means that they cut other foods out.
And I know people don't like to talk about restriction but I just don't really see how you do navigate this modern food environment without a degree of restriction.
Yeah, no. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, that's why I go back to nature's carbs, not man -made carbs or human -made carbs.
If you looked at every food you went in contact with and you said, okay, how close to this, if we're going back to that original conversation, how close is this to nature's food?
If it appears very close, you're probably gonna get it right.
But if all of a sudden you're looking at, especially the box stuff that's in the center aisles at the grocery store, you're going in there and it has a list of 20 -plus ingredients, there is a good chance that one of those ingredients has not been fully vetted for your health.
It's been vetted as a preservative, it's been vetted as a taste enhancer, but it has not been vetted for your health.
Now, here's where it gets crazy.
And this is why I'm so irate about this, and this was a huge motivator for writing Eat Like a Girl.
Was that when we look at so many of the chronic diseases, and we look at these horrible toxic foods, there are ones that many people are eating every single day, and they are known carcinogens, they are known to change your direction with obesity.
The food industry has infiltrated with so many chemicals that if you're just constantly going into this toxic food, you are setting yourself up for chronic disease.
But you have to understand that the modern world is taking you off track.
And that's what I don't think people are getting yet.
Point number three of the foundational five eats for your microbes.
Talk to me. Do you know why I'm saying that?
I don't know. Hit me.
Okay, this I'd love too.
So whenever we go to choose a food, what do we easily do?
We say, what am I in the mood for?
Every time you say what I'm in the mood for, you're asking your taste buds, but what controls your taste buds?
Your gut bugs. Your gut bugs.
So your gut bugs are telling you what kind of food to eat.
So the bad gut bugs are gonna tell you to eat the sugars.
The bad gut bugs are going to make you crave the processed foods.
So when you actually ask yourself, what do I need to eat right now to feed my microbes?
You flip that whole scenario on its head.
And as you start to feed your microbes with things like fiber and seeds and nuts, I put lists after lists in the book of polyphenol, probiotic, prebiotic foods.
What happens is your taste buds now change.
And the greatest study ever done on fasting was the every -other -day diet.
This was years ago.
And the every -other -day diet said, took people who ate toxic Western food and basically said, you eat those every other day.
So eat whatever you want.
If you're going through fast food, eat whatever you want, but on the days off, you're not going to eat.
And what they found, and they had to do this over a course of a year, what they found at the end of the year was that not only did everybody's metabolic markers improve, but what surprised them is their taste buds and what they craved was massively different a year later.
And that's because in the fasted state, especially when you go a full day without food, you are killing off those old bugs and you're creating an environment where new bacteria can grow and those new bacteria give you new signals to your mouth and make you crave new things that are healthier so that they can stay alive.
Yeah, this is where the idea of listening to your body gets a little challenging, doesn't it?
Because if we wanted, we want people to tune in to themselves and listen to what their bodies are telling them, but sometimes we can get waylaid by that, right?
So if you have an unhealthy balance of bugs in your guts you may well be craving foods because of that gut dysbiosis.
Candida is a great example of that.
Candida is a fungus that lives in your gut and it makes you crave sugar, alcohol, carbohydrates.
This is what I had when I had chronic fatigue syndrome.
I had massive candida.
So it kept telling me to eat these toxic carbs over and over again.
So the diet that this doctor put me on was one that was absent of all those foods.
Now let's talk about what happened the first couple of days I went on that.
That fungus just screamed at me, I want more carbs, more sugar.
So the first couple of days are hard as those gut bugs start to scream at you, but then they quieted down and after a week, as little as a week, I started to actually crave the things that I knew supported my health.
It's a little bit like you fake it until you make it.
You have to ignore those until you get through it, and then you can tune into your body's cravings and desires at that point.
These principles so far, all seems to be just as relevant for men as they are for women.
And of course they are, right?
Stable blood sugar, eat natural foods, eat p .m. microbes, And the last two, which we're gonna get to, protein is not just for men and fat doesn't make you fat.
Okay. These foundational fibers, you call them.
I think just as relevant for men, as they are for women, broadly speaking, when it comes to diets, what are those core differences?
What are the things that men can do and maybe thrive on, but women can't?
Well, let's go back to the gut bugs.
OK. The gut bugs are breaking down estrogen.
So men, we talked about this on the last one, they make testosterone, and testosterone goes up into the brain and converts to estrogen.
So estrogen, its whole process is different in a male body than a female body.
You need to have good bacteria in your gut to metabolize estrogen.
If you are 43 years old and you are going through perimenopause and you have a decimated gut microbiome, and you are trying to hold on to every little bit of estrogen that your body's giving you, if you don't have these gut bugs that will help break down estrogen, your symptoms are going to be worse.
That doesn't happen to men.
FARIS So women need good amounts of fiber to help nourish their gut microbiome, which is going to help with the metabolism of hormones.
But men also need good quality gut bugs for other things.
Yeah, maybe they'd be a guiding light for a man.
For a woman, they are an absolute.
We've got to use these.
That's why I called them foundational.
They are a foundational part of a woman's health.
Let's go back to the final two of your foundational five.
Protein is not just for men.
Yeah. Please explain.
Yeah. So, you know, it's interesting.
I think protein is having its moment and it's beautiful.
You know, I think for women, we haven't prioritized protein.
In general women, I mean we have a lot more bodybuilders and a lot more fitness advocates, but in general women don't think of protein as a crucial nutrient.
So if I'm listening to somebody say, you need more protein so that you can have more muscles so that you can be more insulin sensitive.
your brain as a woman may actually translate that into, well, I don't, every time I build muscle, my clothes are tight.
Every time I build muscle, the scale goes up and I'm addicted to the number on the scale.
So all of a sudden you dismiss protein and amino acids come in the form of different forms of protein.
What I'm saying is let's expand the conversation and say your hormones need those amino acids.
Please make sure you're eating protein with every meal.
So when we keep it in the conversation of men, we tend to keep it in the conversation of muscle.
And I'm asking us to even go beyond that and put it in the context of your hormones want you to eat protein.
Do you think it's starting to change with women, the idea that protein is important?
Yeah, I think it's a conversation that's gaining momentum for sure.
One they haven't asked you yet, which I've been asked to ask you by someone who's a fan of yours is, What should somebody eat when they're breaking a fast?
Oh yeah. I know you cover this, but I think we must cover.
I did a whole chapter on this.
So I'm gonna make it really simple.
There are three things you need to think about.
If you want to improve your microbiome.
Like we were talking about, you need to add in more fiber foods, fermented foods, I call them polyphenol probiotic and prebiotic foods, but they look like a lot of salads and a lot seeds and nuts.
So I have lists in the book.
Second thing you wanna eat to make sure that you keep your muscle in good shape.
That's protein. We talked about protein.
And the third is you wanna bring fat in.
So fat curbs the appetite.
It turns off the hunger hormone.
It stabilizes the blood sugar.
So when you put that meal together, ask yourself, like, is there enough fiber here?
Is there enough of the polyphenol probiotic prebiotic foods?
Do I have some protein here?
and do I have some fat.
So you put it with something with healthy, natural fats, like avocado or nut butters or something like that.
In the book, I lay it all out.
I have recipes, but that's a general guideline for the sake of this podcast is it should be intentional.
The first meal matters.
It is the most important meal of this whole conversation is that first meal in.
So what healing do you want to keep going?
And if you keep that in mind, I've got to feed my microbes.
I got to put protein in here.
I got to put some fat, you can never go wrong.
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