This is the Business English Podcast episode 343.
Should you use the word restraint or refrain?
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Hey, Lindsey, how are you?
Doing pretty well, Michelle.
How are you doing? I'm good.
Thanks. I'm good. So Lindsey, do you ever refrain from talking about certain things with your family or friends?
I think yes, especially in the month of November.
Now I will need to refrain from politics conversations with two certain family members.
Yes. Okay, yes, exactly.
Sometimes you just need to refrain from doing something.
So but yeah, today we are going to answer a really great question from a listener and we snatched this up for business because these are words that could frequently be used in the business world.
So this is a great one.
This is from Krishna.
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Here we go. So Sri Krishna says lovely episode.
Can you guys talk about the difference between the words refrain and restrain and how to use them correctly depending on the context?
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Love Krishna. Oh, that's so nice.
It's a very nice message.
Beautiful, beautiful message.
Yeah, thank you very much, Krishna.
We appreciate you listening so much.
Yes. And very kind words.
So yeah, I did take this.
I snatched it for Business English.
So Krishna thanks for the topic for Business English.
I think this is a good one for this podcast as well.
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Good stuff. All right, Michelle.
So let's go through.
Let's just answer Krishna's question.
Right away, right? What is the difference between so what is refrain?
Let's start with refrain first.
Okay. So these this is a little bit nuanced.
Yeah, so but it's in a good way.
It's going to make us think so refrain is to I found a definition of stop oneself from doing something.
Okay, so please refrain from asking questions until the end of the presentation.
Uh -huh. Yeah, or we need to refrain from putting too much pressure on our customers during sales calls.
It never works. Right.
So stop doing something.
Yeah, exactly or I am refraining from making any more calls until I hear back about the budget.
Yes. Okay, so stop oneself from doing something and there's also a piece of grammar here.
So to refrain from something that's an intransitive verb, which means it shouldn't have an object.
Now, this is different from restrain.
Restrain is transitive, meaning it must have an object.
So there's a grammar piece for this and then there's also just the general meaning.
So restrain Lindsay, what is the strain?
Okay, so well, first of all, other than being then grammatically being different and needs an object.
We also say it's a little stronger.
It's a similar idea, but it's generally more forceful or more physical.
So for example, sometimes my boss needs to restrain herself when she gets angry.
She has a bit of a temper.
This kind of has more of the context of holding herself back physically.
Yes, yes, yes, exactly or Lindsay.
I think you'll like this one.
Our company dog was in here today and saw a squirrel.
We needed to restrain her from chasing.
Yeah, totally. I love it when companies allow you to take your dog into work.
There's some companies that do that so fun.
Yes. So so again, so you can see we're taking objects here and then yeah with the dog, I mean you need to maybe you need to get the leash out and kind of pull it back and pull the dog back a little bit.
Lindsay, do you ever need to restrain Jason?
Yeah, we had to use it.
We have to use a gentle leader, which is a special leash that goes around his nose because he pulled he just he loves to play and so he'll lurch after dogs and kind of growl, but it's a growl.
A play growl where you see a signal that he wants to play and sometimes people are like what's wrong with your dog and it's just I haven't trained him well enough to not do that.
I know it's so bad.
We're trying we're trying.
Self -control just wants to play you know, he's a sweetie.
He's a real sweet dog.
So yeah, exactly. You know this idea of a dog on a leash or just keeping to someone from doing something.
But again, we need to have that object or here's another one.
Oh, no Lindsay. Could you read that next one?
They took her company card away because she couldn't restrain herself from overspending at conferences.
That's never good. Yes, not that's not good.
Never good. So in general, they do have a similar idea again restrain.
I think is a little bit stronger, but there you know, so the intensity might be a little bit different, but also the grammar here is very important to consider.
Okay. Yeah, and just going back to the grammar structure is just to review them again.
Does refrain always come with from then just so we can review again?
Yeah, right usually I would say so don't you think yeah, refrain from something feels right.
It feels right. Yeah, refrain from doing something so it comes with from an ing, right?
So someone refrains from doing something or from making something from continuing something right and okay, so just to clarify that yeah, right and where as restrain a lot of times it might be restrain yourself, restrain myself, restrain, right.
Yeah, restrain someone you don't refrain.
Well, I guess you can refrain no, no, you don't say refrain someone from doing something.
You would say restrain you from doing something right.
So I restrain you the object from doing something from doing X.
Yeah, it's interesting.
So we can see that difference there and that's important and we'll continue to see that throughout the episode.
We'll take a quick break now.
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Alright, so why could this be helpful at work Michelle?
What do you think? Yeah, so I mean sometimes we need to use self -control or talk about stopping something or tell someone else to stop something or to avoid something so just in many many ways.
I mean, so this could be used to talk about budget or procedures like sop's or what else Lindsay.
Yeah, yeah, well, I certainly budget to be a little bit more careful have to show restraint and maybe that's another expression that maybe we'll get to today, but maybe not but show physical restraint when it comes to spending money.
SOPs are a good example.
So we're not just reinventing the wheel every time.
We know exactly how to do things, right?
So you might like in an SOP, you might see or refrain from okay.
Yeah, something something right.
So you might see it in there.
Sure. Yeah, that would be and that would actually signal why this is the business English episode in your business live you might so to uplevel your language instead of saying don't do this say please refrain from doing this, right?
Right. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. Maybe in hiring or firing procedures.
You might hear someone say, you know, we need to refrain from hiring anybody until we see the business succeed a little bit more, right?
Mm -hmm. Yeah, that kind of like austerity sort of thing.
Sure. Meetings. How would the supply in a meeting please refrain from drinking water in this room, right, or snacking basic during the media?
Absolutely. If you need to tell someone to stop doing something or to or even you might say refrain before they do that or it just is, you know preventative or you might say something if you see them eating a thing of M &M's and the meeting and you might just say can you please refrain from eating until
after the meeting, right?
Exactly. And so that way of using refrain in that little slightly more up leveled sort of more formal way could also apply to any kind of presentation like for example with my meditation group.
We had this is sort of a picky thing but for a while people were bringing in these we'd have a snack time in between our meditation and our talk and people would get these snacks with kind of a wrapper that would make a lot of noise and someone had to make an announcement to say please refrain from bringing
those snacks because it distracts people's meditation.
I thought it was a little high maintenance that so it could be used in a not a not necessarily having to be a business context is what I'm saying.
Someone is just standing up and making a presentation, making asking making a request of the group and they wanted to uplevel things a little bit instead of saying don't bring those things.
Right. Don't bring those snacks, right?
Right. Right, right, right.
Yeah, right. Yeah, so yeah, exactly.
That's important. So Lindsay, let's do a couple questions.
Have you ever had to restrain yourself from making a purchase for the business?
Oh, yeah, for sure.
I mean, I still see, you know, online courses that I want to take coaches that I want to hire sometimes I'll end up just inadvertently on a sales call.
It's very easy to end up on these sales calls, right?
When you have people emailing you and I can, you know, grow your business and all these things and you end up on the call, whatever and then at the end of the call, you're like, I really want to hire this person.
You know, then of course, like, okay, no, we have a budget.
Yeah, we don't. Yeah, that happens sometimes.
Yeah, and then Lindsay, what do we want to refrain from doing when we're recording or as another just anything at all?
There's English or business English.
Well, we tried to refrain from eating or drinking on the call on the microphone because it shows up on the mic.
Right? That's definitely one thing we try to refrain from big love.
Well, we laugh. Let's not say let's not kid ourselves.
We laugh on the show, which is good.
Yes, maybe lip -smacking is something that we try to avoid because that's really bad for the mic.
What I try to refrain from saying the word like too often.
So listen, I could say I try to refrain from saying the word like or I could say sometimes I have to restrain myself from saying the word like and both would be fine.
So and it just indicates when you when you add that extra level of energy, restrain myself is just indicating you really want to say that word.
Right exactly. It's a more of a physical like a visceral feeling with that.
But yeah, most of the time you can say both right.
You can say both it just we need to get the grammar, right?
Okay, so in the roleplay guys pay special attention to the grammar differences here, right?
We want to make sure we get this by the end of the episode.
So in this role play, what are we doing Michelle?
Okay, so we are going over some upcoming policies at work.
We're co -workers. Okay, here we go.
So I know we've been a little loosey -goosey with the budget lately.
Oh, yeah. Do you think we should tell the team to refrain from making purchases until they check with us?
Hmm, I don't want to micromanage but it seems like sometimes they can't restrain themselves, especially when it comes to those lunch meetings with clients.
It's just too over the top.
I agree. We're tightening our belts here.
Yes. Yeah, so I said do you think we should tell the team to refrain from making purchases?
So again, refrain from doing something, refrain from plus ing, okay, and then I said I don't want to micromanage, but it seems like sometimes they can't restrain themselves.
It's like you could also say they can't help themselves.
That would be a good one.
That's another one you could say.
So yeah, here we have restrain and then with the object.
Yep, exactly. And again, different grammatical setup could potentially mean the same thing, but could be a slightly different meaning depending on how much energy, you know, with restrain that extra, if they really love those lunches.
They just can't help themselves.
They just succumb to their temptations, right?
They just want to eat lunch out.
Yeah, right. Exactly.
Like you might, you might or like, let's say you're a business lunch or you're at it just even outside of business, of course, and either there's a cookie or fries or something that you're trying not to eat, and you might just say, I just can't restrain myself.
Give me the country myself.
I can't help myself.
Right, exactly. Like they come and they offer you dessert at the table.
I just can't restrain myself.
Yeah, I have to get dessert.
Yes. Michelle, what's another episode we've done recently that our listeners should check out?
Yeah, guys, listen to episode 329 of the Business English Podcast.
That's I can't wait to meet you in person.
Yeah, that was a good one.
We talked about what can you say to your co -workers when maybe there's an upcoming retreat company retreat or conference where you're going to meet your co -workers the first time in person.
Maybe you got your job during covid or work from home.
It's a permanent work from home scenario, and you just meet four times a year.
What do you say in anticipation of that moment?
Okay. What's the take away today, Michelle?
Yeah, well, I think we made it pretty clear, you know, thinking about, you know, refrain from an ing whereas restrain, we need an object.
So we've gone over the grammar today that you need but we've also gone over the slight differences in meaning.
So definitely give give this a try.
It's good to use for the workplace.
It's also good for outside of the workplace.
So but let us know how it goes.
All right. Sounds good, Michelle.
You have a good rest of your day and I'll talk to you soon.
All right. Bye, Lindsay.
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