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I'm Jenna Fisher. And I'm Angela Kinsey.
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Hello. Welcome to Office Ladies 6 .0.
We have a special guest today in the studio.
Yes. It's my possible cousin?
Yes, Clark Duke. That's right.
Joining us today is Clark Duke who played Clark Green on The Office.
He joined the show in Season 9 episode 1 titled New Guys, Clark Green is the new customer service representative at the Scranton branch of Dunder Mifflin, and yes, Angela, a possible cousin of yours.
We'll get to that with him.
We did speak about it in more detail.
I love this little tangent.
But first, here's a little bit about Clark Duke.
He is an actor, writer, director, producer.
He is originally from Arkansas.
How cool is this? When he was in college, Clark created, wrote, directed, and produced the web series Clark & Michael with his friend Michael Serra in which he plays a fictional version of himself.
In our conversation with him, he talks a lot about how that project that he did that was his college thesis actually really informed his role on The Office.
Yes. Yeah. Now listen, you guys might know Clark from his other acting roles in Greek, Superbad, Sex Drive, 1 ,000 Words, Kickass 1 & 2, Hot Tub Time Machine 1 & 2, Bad Moms, Identity Theft and I'm Dying Up Here.
Which he stars in with Jake Lacy.
He is also a writer and director.
He wrote, directed, and starred in the feature film Arkansas and the upcoming Strangehold, which reunites him with Jake Lacy.
And of course, we all know him from The Office and he joins us in the studio today to talk about his time on the office, plus so much more, but before we play his interview, I think we need to revisit some fan favorite moments of Clarke.
According to fans, this is one of the best one -liners Clarke ever said on the show.
It's from Moving On, Part 1.
The man had seemed like it, but this really helped.
So thank you. I'll give you $100 to wear that sweater to work tomorrow.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
That was so funny. That's right.
This is when Andy is starting to put together that maybe Erin is seeing someone.
Yes, and maybe she gave his sweater to this new person, who is Pete.
Yes. Well, other fans wrote in to say that they love this bit of Clark sass to Jim in Live In The Dream.
We talk about this in our interview with Clark.
Here it is. Oh, Clark.
I'm actually here today.
Surprise. So I was wondering if maybe I could have my desk back.
Right. Yeah but I've actually been working pretty hard here on a daily basis so I kind of feel I mean, you know?
You totally have. You have earned it.
But maybe I could be with my wife.
It's kind of a whole reason why I'm here.
Right. Well, I'm here to sell paper.
Earn. Yes, that is my personal fav.
Well, we both have a lot of favorite Clark moments, and it's so fun to talk to him about it all.
Yes, I think he also may have my favorite call sheet questions answers yet.
They were like stay tuned for his call sheet questions.
That's all I have to say.
Absolutely. I mean, call sheet question number one.
Wowsers. Wowsers! Well let's take a break.
And when we come back it's our interview with Clark Duke.
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Hello! Hi. How are you?
I'm great. Welcome.
Thank you. It's so great to be here.
It's nice to see you guys.
It's really nice to see you.
Besides like, Christmas cards.
I know that. I love getting your mom's Christmas card. We haven't done one in a while.
Because it's like, you got to plan it in June.
But I got one. I had it.
I taped it up in the dining room.
and walk past your family.
But we didn't do like a full like shoot, you know?
No. Like a planned photo shoot.
Yeah, but you need to tell your mom she needs to get back on it.
I will. Cause she slacked off last year.
Could you guys please share with people how this Christmas card thing came about?
It's because you're maybe like distant relatives, right?
Well, this is our joke.
So, we were chatting on set one day and I was like, wait a second, we have a lot of the same family names.
and then you're from North Carolina, there's this lore that my family's from North Carolina, I mean, are we related?
Well you probably are if they were actually from North Carolina like confirmed, yeah.
I don't know guys, I could be sitting across from my eighth cousin twice removed.
Well you're family enough to send a Christmas card every year, even after all these years.
I thought at first she meant like the history of like Christmas cards in general, and I was like I have no idea.
I know, I wanna Google that.
I know. You've put that in my head.
All right, cousin, let's get to it.
Let's kick things off with the question we ask everybody.
The first question, how did you get your job on The Office?
So I met Greg Daniels, I forget what you're...
It was a few of... At least a couple years or a few years before I got on The Office.
And it was he was making a different show.
And I don't remember if the show, anyway, I ended up not doing that show, because it just wasn't for me.
But I liked Greg so much. I liked the office very much obviously.
And then just kind of years later out of the blue, I got my manager called me one day and said like basically like Greg wanted to know if he would be interested in like joining the office and I was like, well, yeah, that would be great, because, because I mean, for me, you know, I went to, I went to film school at Loyola Marymount out here in LA and my thesis project was a mockumentary called Clark and Michael, me and Michael Sarah.
And you know, our main influence was two things.
It was this thing called Stella with David Wayne and Michael Showalter and the other thing was the British office.
I mean mainly the British office.
So I had been a huge fan since the British office, so for me it felt very like full circle, and neat for me personally just to like get to be on the show.
Yeah, so that was it.
I mean it was, yeah, it was not a lot of deliberation or anything.
I was like, of course, I would love to be on the office.
What a great phone call to get.
Yeah, I haven't had a phone call that good in a while, yeah.
That was a good one.
How did they talk to you about the character you would be playing?
Were you part of the development of this character?
Did they tell you at the time, oh, you're gonna be paired with this other new guy.
Did they give you any of those details?
I knew we were gonna be paired with another new guy as far as like, you know, the characterization.
I don't recall there being a lot of specific notes about like how to play.
I mean, I think it was sort of like like, do your thing.
Yeah, I think it was sort of like acting as casting.
You know what I mean?
I think it was just like kinda me.
And I mean, that was why, you know, because a lot of people said like, oh, like, did they want to name you Clark?
And like, that was my idea.
And it was sort of also in the back of my head too.
Like maybe this is Clark from Clark and Michael.
Like 10 years later or whatever.
Yeah. And I mean, that was just like the lore in my head, like not like, you know, anybody else.
But I also thought it was fun, you know, because there's a lot of people on the show that use their real name.
I don't think there was a lot of specific like, you need to play it like this.
It was more like, I think they kind of just wanted my, you know, me, whatever that is.
I have one more like follow up question to your casting process.
At the time, weren't you told that this could possibly be like the beginning of a spinoff show?
Like that you and Jake were gonna be the two new guys for the final season of The Office, and that your characters might carry the torch into the next iteration?
Yeah, that was my understanding of it.
Not even like a spinoff, but like ER, you know, where it was like just new cats, some of the existing cats would stay, and then you'd bring in like new people, too, and kind of be a mix.
But yeah, that was my understanding of it, was it would be, yeah, like ER.
And that would keep the show going.
So I mean, I was looking forward to being on the show for like years, you know, potentially.
I remember when we watched the finale, there was all of this extra footage you and um with Dakota, yeah, like you were gonna be each other's love interest. Right, right, we shot like this whole, I remember for like a week or two we shot all this stuff.
There's tons of footage.
Yeah, all gone. I wonder if they'll put it back in the superfan episode.
Maybe, maybe. Well it was so funny too because um I saw like or somebody sent it to me on instagram a while ago when she was doing the press for a for a movie.
She kept talking about how like, that was like the worst week of my life.
Like I sit around and then they never used any of it, which made me laugh really hard. Well, Dakota, it might be in a superfan.
It might come back.
It might live again But yeah, but that was, um, yeah, that was my understanding of it and my hope, you know, to be honest. Well, we have a fan question for you from Joann K.
in Cape May, New Jersey.
She says, what was it like coming into the office so late in run.
It seems like it would feel like being a transfer student senior year.
It was a little bit like that, but the thing is, it wasn't hard because it was such a smooth running machine.
You're joining this thing that runs like a clock at that point, and everybody was so nice.
I will say you guys, specifically you two, were the nicest of, and I'm not just saying that because the podcast, you guys were very sweet to me and I always appreciated that.
We were very excited when you and Jake joined the show, when we spoke with him, we told him that it was like, we needed new people.
We were— you guys were so funny.
You were so nice. You were so talented.
You had new stories to tell.
Well, that's— I think that's the thing too is like, we were like a family where like as soon as John started doing a bit I'm like, that's his boom, operator bit.
We've seen it for nine years.
It's still funny. But you guys came in with all this new energy.
Well, it is very much like a family, because I mean, when you, you know, just from doing so much TV over the years and over the course of my life, like, you know, you spend more time with those people on set than you do like your actual family in a lot of cases, you know, for like six or nine months a year, like 12 or 14 hours a day, like it does be, it is a really like a family atmosphere.
So yeah, it was, it was sort of, I thought it was going to be intimidating, but it was, it ended up being kind of just a pleasure because it was just so easy.
And everybody could go, you know?
Like I remember, I think the first scene I ever shot was, it was me and Rain at like the snack machine.
Oh my gosh. And it was sort of like a feeling out thing of, like, because I wasn't sure how much, you know, like how much improv to like, you didn't want to show up and be like, yeah, yeah, you don't want to like, come in super hot.
Be like, I got jokes, guys.
I know you've won some Emmys, but here's my stuff.
And, you know, like it never need a lot of improv because the scripture is so good too but I remember, you know, being a little bit nervous like that day, but then it was just, you know, rain is so funny and me and him had a good I felt like had good chemistry together too so that was so easy.
I can't believe that was your first scene.
I'm pretty sure yeah.
You guys cracked up a lot and it's in the bloopers and I actually was gonna play it.
Ready? Are you ready?
This is - you guys are so tickled.
So alright, here we go.
Wanna coffee? No I'll probably just just finish the bag of chips.
Again you don't have to get me stuff, I appreciate it.
I've got some noodles in my car.
I got some noodles in my car.
I got some noodles in my car.
So we could just...
Just gonna get in your car?
I got some noodles in my car.
We could just hang out and have some noodles.
See, and if you're more hungry, I got a big tub of noodles in my car.
This goes on. Super professional.
This goes on for a few minutes.
Literally every time you said I got some noodles, you guys would start breaking.
Well we basically just met.
Yeah, that is so fun though.
You could already see the chemistry between the two characters.
Yeah, the hardest I've ever left and the one that's still like, if I catch it on TV, I don't know if you guys know this but this show airs a lot on cable.
It does. So I see like, in Comedy Central and every channel, it seems to be on every channel.
It's on a loop. But if I ever see the one where we're trying to move Stanley's body, down the stairs, down the stairs to me, even shooting, I could not hold it together.
I was like, this is the funniest when this head launches into the wall.
Into the wall. Because that was - Oh my gosh.
Because it was... But that was the great thing about the show.
And about mockumentary is the formula and the format of the show being so grounded with the mockumentary.
You can get away with really big, broad stuff, because I was like, at first I was like, this is really silly.
I don't know if this is going to work at all.
But then you watch it and it totally works because like, the, you know, the mockumentary thing grounds it.
But yeah that, that was, I still think about that in life, just trying to shoot that and get through it because like nobody could keep it together.
I love that you brought that up because I feel like we were afraid to do that mix of like a broad concept and then like, but keeping it in the mockumentary world.
And it was Mindy's episode, the injury where Michael grills his foot which is just such like a broad ridiculous idea and after that episode worked I felt like that would the writers were like oh okay.
Yeah okay we see what we can do here.
Meredith can have a bat attack her head.
Yes or get hit by Michael's car.
It really does though it gives you it gives you a lot of freedom because um I mean just think I mean even think it's like spinal tap.
Yes. You know, like it's, yeah, that's the great, that's the thing that I love the love about mockumentary.
I really got to do it twice because it doesn't come up like I did it in Clark and Michael and then did it in the office.
But yeah, I'd love to do more mockumentary.
Well you're a writer -director now.
Would you ever go that route?
I actually have a script I'm working on right now that I would like to try to shoot this year that's a a market mirror, yeah.
But I don't know if I'm gonna be in it, but yeah, definitely.
Just because I miss, and it's such a fun way to shoot too.
You know, you can move so fast. That was the other crazy thing about the office is how it felt like we shot a ton of pages a day.
We did. We did. Yeah, like compared to other stuff.
So much, like yeah, like.
Like 10 or 12 plus pages a day which is a lot.
I mean, I don't know if people know.
That's a lot. It's a lot of pages, yeah.
It's a lot of pages.
And also, you know, we didn't move our lighting once we were that main bullpen.
So we didn't have to wait for a lot of set up so we could move really quickly.
Which is great because as an actor, you kept the energy up.
Yeah. Totally. You wouldn't have that sort of slump as they would take forever to light.
But I remember after being on the office and going through like 10, 12 pages a day, going to shoot a movie and I would look at the call sheet and I'd be like, we're doing 7 8ths of a page today?
Yeah, be like one or two pages, yeah.
Yeah. like oh okay yeah it's one page for 12 hours as opposed to 12 pages in 12 hours it's it's great as an actor I mean the Machi Mary thing too cuz you're shooting with you know two or three cameras usually at all times too so you can you know kind of like a Robert Altman thing like talk over each other and not have to worry about that and yeah I loved it yeah well looking back on the office is there a particular moment or episode that stands out to you've used one of your favorites?
I mean, Stare McGadden, I already answered this one, but that episode.
And the first one, the first one where you meet us, you know, was obviously a really special thing for me.
Well, you know what?
The one where Dwight takes me on the sales call when we go to the father -son?
Is that suit warehouse?
Yes, yes, it's so good.
That episode is so good.
That might've been, that was a really fun one to shoot for me, just because the stuff with Ryan was so fun.
I mean, the most surreal one, Or the one that like maybe sticks out the most was um the finale just because that was a little surreal like talk about the like Transferring like senior year somewhere like and me and Jake Lacey have talked about this like it was it was kind of surreal because you know you guys had all been together so long and everybody's like crying and hugging we kind Of felt like two guys like standing around like you feel kind of like yeah You feel a little like like like weird like like you're at like the funeral of someone.
Yes Just like, should I go hug you?
What do I do? It was like an acquaintance's funeral, you know?
Yeah. So that was the most surreal thing, probably.
But yeah, funniest one is Sarah MacG and for me, just could not keep it together.
And then yeah, for the first episode of that season where they introduced us and then, yeah, probably a suit warehouse.
Well, you have one of my favorite talking heads.
It's when Clark is talking about his weekend with Jan. And it's one of my absolute favorites and I want to play it.
Okay. Hey, guys. Clark!
Hey. Hey. Look who's back.
White Jr. Hey. So how was it?
The sex with Jan. A gentleman doesn't discuss such matters, especially when the feelings of a lady are involved.
Women reached their sexual peak at whatever age Jan was last week.
It was like making love with a wild animal, but not like a cougar.
You might think it was like a swarm of bees.
Bees that just find something wrong with every hotel room.
That's a good one. That is so good.
Your delivery is so great.
Yeah, I did not write that line.
I wish I did. That's excellent.
That was a funny story, because I think if I remember right, I think that was the me and Jan thing was written in because I had to go shoot a movie, and it was one of those deals where I was committed to that before I came on the show, so we had to carve it out type of deal.
Sure. I think that was why the Jan thing was how they wrote me off.
But yeah, what a great, funny way to do it.
Yeah. For three weeks.
Do you have any offset, behind the scenes memories when you look back at that time on The Office?
What do you think of?
I don't know, it was an interesting time.
I'm trying to think of stuff that would not be interesting to talk about because for me, it's like I think about, it felt like kind of a transitional moment in my life.
I was moving. like I literally just move from, so where they tape here, the podcast, I used to live across the street in this building, and I had moved out of there and was living in this house I rented.
Yeah, we should share with everyone.
When you walked in, you were like, oh my gosh, from the windows where we record, he can literally see the window of his old apartment.
Yeah, I could see my old apartment across the street here.
Yes, I don't know. So for me it was an interesting, it was such a fun, weird kind of year, because it was like, just being on the show So it felt like this fun gift that was just put in my lap that I got to do for a year.
So, it was just kind of pure joy, because I mean, like I said earlier, a lot of shows are not that fun to shoot.
Especially now that everything is kind of just like, a lot of TV shows now are movies that never end.
Like single camera stuff.
You can go shoot a movie for two or three months and do the crazy hours, because it's only for a couple of months.
Doing that like nine months a year, really wears on you after awhile.
Yeah. So yeah, it was such a fun year.
You know the main thing that kind of took me a bit because I'd never done a show that did that many episodes a year.
And so it was really interesting for me just to watch the kind of like ebs and flows of like, everybody's got so much energy at first. And then by like, I remember there's like a hiatus like midway through.
And it's like, you need it because everyone's about to die From like exhaustion and then it was like the scripts after that like in everybody's energy like, okay, everybody's got way more energy again, to kind of like carry you through.
It was interesting for me just to watch the sort of endurance and the kind of rhythm of the thing and how you had to kind of pace yourself a little bit.
And also just how fast stuff would come out like if we would shoot an episode and it'd be on TV like was it like two or three weeks later, like really fast?
The turnaround was really quite.
Yeah, the turnaround blew my mind.
Because I'd also never been on anything that turned around that fast before that.
Well, we'd get a script and we'd read it midweek and then we'd shoot it the next week.
Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I think for me just the process of it was really interesting to watch as far as the offsets.
Well, I guess that's still on set, but that was cool to me.
I mean, one thing that I, you know, liked about the show so much and was so excited about when I initially got the offer was the idea of, eventually being like would be Jay or Mindy and being a writer producer kind of role on the show too.
It kind of went on longer.
I'm so curious because over in the little accounting nook we had our different bits that we would do with one another.
Did you and Jake back in the annex sitting across from each other, did you have bits that you did?
Did you have the zen garden.
No. Remember how there was that little sand zen garden.
I think that left. I don't know if Caw is in garden.
Yeah, it was it used to be back in theiac.
I don't think we did.
Cuz you know, weirdly we didn't we didn't film or it feels like we didn't film a whole lot of stuff back there.
Like I remember filming way more stuff with you right.
Then I do back there, but I mean Paul would always crack me up.
Yeah. Paul makes me laugh really hard. I ended up doing a Paul directed a movie that I was in a few years after called song neck and back.
Oh, right. And then we did during, Paul called me during the lockdown part of COVID and I ended up doing this, it was like a audible - Oh yeah.
Middle space, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, great.
It's so funny. Yeah.
But it was so, that was then that most surreal part of like COVID in LA where so they delivered like a sound booth to my house.
And like I built this, they sent like a kid, they didn't even build, this was like when nobody would even like - Come in your house.
No, it's like we're gonna drop this giant refrigerator size thing outside like in your driveway And so I built this thing of like PVC pipe in my garage.
You built it. Well, I mean it's it's like Yeah, yeah, it's not that elaborate let's say I don't want to oversell like It had like instructions and you know You basically had to do an Ikea build Exactly You do Ikea bill of this thing and build a little a little like soundproof booth with the you know The blanket over it and the whole thing, and the mic and the stand and yeah.
That was crazy. Yeah.
Yeah. I was gonna ask you if you took anything from the set when we wrapped because Jun and I took a bunch of stuff.
I took a bunch of shirts and a couple ties.
You did, for your real life?
That you would wear in your real life?
Well I could but I really don't, it was more keepsakes so.
It was, yeah. Yeah.
That was my question.
Because I didn't really have any other like props to speak of you know what I mean because I never had like a Like desk had been out for a long time or anything I took this very specific tie of it because I I feel like I I only had like two or three ties that rotated a lot which is one thing that I liked about the Show is it was kind of a real thing as you'd see close repeat Yeah, cuz you know normally on TV shows, you'll like never see the same outfit ever again Um, but I had like two or three ties So I have one or two of those and one that I see and I see those on TV all the time and cracks me
up Oh I love that. You mentioned how you didn't really have a desk necessarily so much that you sat at a lot and that reminded me of one of my favorite episodes which is when you won't leave Jim's desk when he comes back.
And your showdown with him is so good.
It's really good. I love it.
You're like oh cause I'm here to sell paper.
I would love to sit by my wife.
All business. Yeah.
Do you still get recognized from your time on the show?
Oh my God. To a degree that like blows my mind, only because I was, you know, only on the show for the one season.
But I'm, no, The Office it's like, I mean, it's like, I don't know, I've never been apart of anything, like that is this big, you know, like now with like it feels like it's so much bigger now than when the show was on too.
Oh yeah. Like with like the conventions.
I mean, there's people, I know people that, people come up to you and tell me this, that they just watch the show on loop.
I think it is bigger in a sense because there's all the people who watched it when it was originally on and now there are these additional generations who have found it and love it, but that first generation is also still watching it.
So it's just this cumulative fan base.
And it's... No. I would say, at least once a day, somebody in real life will say, oh my God, were you Clark from The Office?
Yeah. Which is another reason to use your real name when you're on a TV show.
Oh, it's good times.
Isn't it? I have this story that Jenna knows that I had lunch with Rainn.
We were leaving, you know, this little cafe and someone drove by and they yelled, Angela!
And I was like, what?
Oh, wait, sorry, Rein.
I might know them. And then they yelled, Dwight!
Right. He goes, oh, no. They yell your name.
I was like, they do.
And every time I turn around, and I think I might know someone.
Yep. My favorite story that's similar to that is one after I, this was like like 2007 or something I think the only thing I'd done was Clark and Michael and it was just on the internet, and I remember being at - we were at San Diego Comic -con like promoting some movie that hadn't come out yet and somebody drove by in a car and yelled internet!
At me. Which was one of my all -time favorite.
But the The biggest thing is I turned around.
Like I knew it was directed at me.
That's pretty great.
But no, like the office thing is really like, like I said, it continues to blow my mind.
But I mean, you're also, you know, it's so cool now with kind of, and I sort of knew this at the time, but even more now, like, you got to be part of one of the all -time shows.
Like, I mean this was like my generation, Seinfeld, you know or cheers or yeah just a classic show that everyone you knew watched at some point yeah like I remember one time Greg Daniels said something to me and I'm gonna like paraphrase it in butcher but he said something along the lines of like you know in life you don't get that many like really big bites at the Apple and like you know that was that was one of them for sure like that show yeah yeah I mean I Jenna and I definitely felt that when we started the podcast, we were like, well, we don't wanna get anything wrong because the show means
so much to everyone.
And they will correct you.
They will let you know, but they're always, they're very kind, I have to say.
They are. They will say, ladies, that cold open actually was a tag and you got it wrong.
I'm like, oh, I'm sorry.
I think it's because it's sort of that thing that I mean, the only thing I can compare it to is like Stern Show or something that you listen to like every day for hours on end.
and it almost, it feels like they're like your friends or family members.
And I think people have watched the show and lived with the show for so long now and especially the people that have watched it straight through over and over.
You feel like you know the people.
Yeah. And it feels like hanging out with friends, I think.
Well, we did an entire rewatch of every single episode of the show.
And you are a complete delight.
You're a breath of fresh air when you come on in Season Nine.
So funny. I really enjoyed season nine you and Jake were a big reason why I had a bless I thought as it is just a viewer a fan.
I thought season nine was really strong in general.
Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah.
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Well, Clark, you have transitioned now into writing and directing and acting.
You had your film, Arkansas, which was based on a novel.
It is an amazing mix of crime and dark humor and drama.
Angela was very impressed by your cast. I really was.
I was looking at it on IMDB and I was like holy moly!
Liam Hemsworth, Michael Kenneth Williams, Vivica A.
Fox, Edan Brolin, Chandler Duke, your brother, Jon Malkovich, and Vince Vaughn.
Wow! What was it like working with that cast?
It was great. I mean it was sort of the same thing as The Office.
It just makes your life as a director really easy.
Like somebody said, like, Oh, what was it like directing, like, you know, like, John Malkovich. So I'm like, it's really easy.
John Malkovich, he gets it.
Yeah, he knows, he knows all of our lines.
I'd look over and he'd be like putting a mat over a loose cable and like, like, I mean, like...
Helping the crew out.
No, literally. Yeah.
He's just a delight.
Yeah. I love John Malkovich. I still email with him every now and then.
Yeah, I mean, it just makes your life really easy, like more than anything.
And again, I mean, I think a lot of it just comes down to chemistry.
Like I felt like me and Liam had a good, like we had a good back and forth with each other.
And we're friends, I've stayed friends.
I mean, that was what I, you know, I really, I came out here to go to school to be a writer director.
Like that was really what I wanted to do more so than the acting.
And then like, you know, kind of by virtue of being in Clark and Michael kind of got the acting career and did that for a nice long time and had a blast. But I always you know I was always like making shorts and I was always writing and like I mean I had the option of the the book Arkansas for like right probably almost like a decade and then finally I was like all right you girls like now we're never like so it didn't feel it doesn't feel like an abrupt like change to me.
Right because it's always been part of you?
Yeah and I was always like wanting to do it and kind of trying to do it but um but you know like it was It's hard because I mean, thank God I get to work a lot as an actor, and it takes a lot of time up.
That's a full time job.
So it was sort of a matter of like after the last show was on, which Jake Lacey was also on called I'm Dying Up Here on Showtime.
We also did this other TV show together.
That's wild. Yeah. And now he's in your next meeting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, me and Jake are like on like these parallel - Yeah, but it was kind of like after, after that show I'm dying up here, I finally got to make Arkansas, which I've been trying to make for, you know, a few years at that point.
And to the degree that, like you know, it had like different producers and a completely different cast, it went like multiple points and, and then like somehow it just like, and so much of it is just like scheduling and timing like, you know, like Malkovich had like a week in October or whatever.
So it's like, Oh my gosh, we got to make it happen.
It's like, alright, we're shooting in October.
Yeah. But it was yeah, like after that show wrapped up, I really just, you know, threw myself into that and worked on that for, you know, like a couple of years.
Like making a movie takes a really long time.
It does. Yeah. It really does.
I remember when my husband and I, we made this indie, The Giant Mechanical Man.
Like from our first meeting until it came out, we fell in love while we were making this movie, by the way.
And so from that first time we met where I was like here's the pitch meeting where you're pitching me the movie and I say yes and then we go off we're going to try to get it made, we fell in love, we got married, I got pregnant, and I had a baby.
All of that happened before it came out.
It was like five years.
Yeah, no. And that's, um, sadly, I mean, and especially with independent movies, like that's kind of the norm.
So yeah, like I said, I've been trying to make that movie for years and then spent, you know, two plus years or whatever, making it.
And then it finally came out right as COVID started, like the movie came out May of 2020.
So that was like right when all the lockdowns and everything started.
So did you get to have the big premiere?
Or anything? Was it in theaters?
No. No. We were gonna be.
Of course. We were gonna be, we almost made it.
It would've been like the last independent film in theaters.
Oh man. No. That, as an artist, I know just because of how long it takes to push the boulder up the mountain and then...
And then to get, not to get to celebrate it in that big way.
Yeah, it felt really anticlimactic.
I mean, I didn't want to feel too, you know, like sorry for myself just because there was such like real -life horror going on with everybody.
For sure. But um, but no, it's tough.
It's kind of a tough pill to swallow.
Because like you said, you spend like years and years on it.
But it ended up doing great on VOD.
It was one of the first, you know, like I feel like movies that got moved to VOD.
So I think it felt like we were like the...
It was like us and like Sonic the Hedgehog, like the only movies even available to watch, type of thing.
So it ended up doing really well.
And yeah, now I'm in post right now, on my second film that me and my brother Chandler wrote.
And he's in, he acts in this one too, and he was in Arkansas as well, but I'm not in this one.
I just directed this one but - What's it like to have a project like that with your brother?
How do you guys work together?
Yeah, do you have a ritual when you're writing?
A little bit, so it was sort of, you know, that was probably like one positive thing that came out of, you know, the kind of long quarantine of everybody is I had rented an office space literally like a month before all that started.
Like, everybody got, you know, locked in their houses.
I had rented these two offices.
is. So me and my brother and his writing partner from college, Billington just started going there every day.
And so, you know, just to kind of keep from going crazy and just have somewhere to go.
And you know, it still felt very safe.
It's just the three of us, and we don't want anybody else and like a second quarantine, a little, yeah, but it was at least like a second location.
Yeah. So thank God.
Like, you know, we had that, and we had each other, they kind of like talked to, but we started going over there and we just started writing everyday and we wrote, you know, over a couple of years, like, I don't know, like four or five or six movie scripts.
So we got, yeah. So we have some material now, and this is the first one.
And then after you know, all the lockdowns kind of died down like this movie, stranglehold was gonna get made and then it was like gearing up and then the strikes happened.
So then we had to take another like, you know 18 months off or whatever.
But anyway, we finally shot the thing and now I'm starting well, not starting, we're onto the, like the point now we're about to start the music.
You're in post -production.
We're in post -production like most of the editing is done but now we got to do all the color and sound and the music and all that kind of stuff.
But the movie will probably come out, it's a Christmas movie.
I was going to say, can you tell us a little bit about it?
Yeah. I love a Christmas movie.
She loves a Christmas movie.
I'm very excited already, in that Christmas movie.
Can I come to the premiere?
Yeah, yeah, there's a premiere, yes, of course.
Yes, yes. It's a Christmas movie.
I have a red plaid dress I can wear.
Okay, go on. So, it's set at Christmas and it's about a stripper and her alcoholic veteran husband who decide to rob the strip club she works had at Christmas.
Okay. So, Merry Christmas.
Who else in it? Ashley Benson and Jake Lacey.
Oh, nice. Are they the couple?
They're the couple.
Okay. Justin Long. Okay.
Ron Perlman is the owner of the club, and Justin Place's son which is very funny.
David Arquette is in the film, Brian Plosanes in the film.
Yeah, we got another great cast. Yeah, another great cast. So cool.
Yeah, but I am not in it.
Did you like not being in it?
Did you prefer? I wanted to try it.
You wanted to try it.
I wanted to try it.
Yes, this your first film you've directed that you've not been in?
Well, I've only made the two so yes.
Well and I guess. Yeah, but even like, Clarke and Michael and others, yeah, I was in all those too.
Yeah, you're right.
So this is your first time strictly being behind the camera.
It was. Because now that I think about it, even like the shorts and stuff I made over the years, I was always in those too.
So, yeah, it was. How'd you like it?
It was a mix. I mean, we had so few days.
Like, we shot the whole movie in like 17 or 18 days or so.
So, I mean, I couldn't have physically done it.
Right. Like, I would have collapsed, you know?
It was sort of more out of necessity.
Because I did like, the part that Justin played I wrote for myself, you know, initially.
But it just became like, a logistical thing.
But I also wanted to try it and just see, you know, what the difference was and if I did feel like it improved anything.
Honestly, I kinda miss being in it though.
I don't know, I think I might go, I don't know.
I'm on the fence, it depends on what day you ask me.
Yeah. I know, I always think about that too.
I had written this short film one time and I was gonna direct it and then I decided no, I need someone else, I need that third eye.
So my friend stepped in to direct it, but then I kinda micromanaged him then I was also in it.
So, I don't think I could not be in it.
I think I wanna do bits, I wanna be in there, you know?
The thing for me that I found on Arkansas, because I was, you know, I was in like 80 % of that movie, but I kinda found a lot of times it was sorta just one less person to deal with.
Oh. It's kinda like one person you don't have to direct.
And I mean, like when you have really good actors, that's sorta not much of an issue anyway, but I was like, you know, I knew what I wanted the character to kind of be and do, and I knew what I wanted the line reading to be, type of thing.
One less note to give.
Yeah, kind of, so I didn't really mind it but I also didn't really know any different because I'd only ever acted in this stuff that I directed but so I don't know, going forward, you know, I miss doing comedy, like acting wise I miss doing comedy and they just don't make, like, theatrical, like, they don't exist. It's not a lot.
Yeah, it's weird. Right.
It's very weird, like, I don't understand it because I know people, I mean, I guess it just moved the tv but I miss - Yeah, I miss like a good - I know.
a funny movie where you're like laughing so hard and.
I know. And I was very blessed.
I got to spend a bunch of years acting in those and it was so fun.
So I miss that. Yeah.
That used to kind of be, there was always a couple, there were these big like summer blockbuster comedy and there were no superheroes in them and there were no like giant car chases either.
There were just like awesome jokes.
And now those are exclusively.
Exclusively, I guess, streaming.
Theatrical releases, our car chases and the.
And horror films. And horror, yeah.
And like superheroes.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
Everything cycles. It does.
It does. I was listening to this podcast, this film history show called You Must Remember This.
Do you know this show?
No, no, but I'm writing it down.
It's very good. You know, it'll just give you like a reminder of like how, you know, like the parallels between like in the 50s when television came along and the studios were collapsing you know and this like there's a lot of parallels between that and now and just as a reminder that like you know everything cycles.
Well what will happen is someone will make a great comedy.
Yup. It'll be an outlier and it'll hit big and then we'll go into the season of comedy again.
I think we're due...
or something like that.
Yeah I think we're due for like a whole new group of people a whole new like style of comp like you know cuz it kind of felt like you know like I had like like one line and like super bad and it was like it feels like everyone in super bad got a career they felt like that was like a graduating class a little bit you know and we're all still kind of still around and I don't know like what the equivalent movie to that since then is like it felt like there was like a scene like UCB and like I don't know because I feel like it's like you said you've been around long enough you know like I feel like
I still yeah know and see like like everybody from, you know, 20 years ago, whenever that was.
I still like hanging out with my friends from ImprovOlympic, you know?
So it's like that group you kind of come up together with.
All right, Clark, it is time for our call sheet questions.
What was your first entertainment job that you were paid for?
I believe it was a commercial when I was like, like five or six years old.
Come on. I it was either at commercial or it was I did a pilot that Kerry Fisher wrote and Produce and Debbie Reynolds starred in what when I was like six, were you a child actor?
Yes I did not know this did you know that I did not know this first of all I mean back sad card says like 1991 on it.
Okay. Wait. Yeah, that's not a joke Okay, I need member since 1991 I need you to back here.
I graduated from high school Well I was already, I already had a full time job.
You did. So. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I need to know, I have so many questions now.
You are living in Arkansas, and you became a child actor in Arkansas.
No. No. My mother had a childhood friend living in LA that we came and visited that was working as an actress.
Okay. And her manager saw me.
I was like, this kid's gotta be in Showbiz.
We've got to get this kid out, we've got to send them out.
and like sent me on thinking commercial.
I mean my mother can answer this better than I could because I was you know like five years old, but yeah booked a bunch of commercials and then.
Do you remember than any of the commercials like what were the products like.
Like Toyota, Kellogg's, there was a Pop -Tarts one that was there and they're all like big national spots.
Yeah I did that pilot and then CBS signed me to a holding deal.
How old were you when you had a holding deal?
Like six or seven like something like that.
How was that for you?
It was fun like there were no pressure you didn't know pressure.
You're a child Yeah, yeah, because I was I was a very like gregarious.
You know like like talkative like But would you have to leave school to do these projects?
And how was that socially you were like the guy who was going to LA from Arkansas?
Yeah, but I mean you're you're like such a little kid I feel like it's before you're like It's true or anyone is really aware of it neurotic stuff sets in yeah, you know, they're just like Clark's back Okay, hi Clark!
And there were - and then I ended up on the sitcom called Hearts to Fire, Sir John Ritter and Marky Post and Billy Bob Thornton and Ed Asner, Crazy Cast, and Billy Bob's also from Arkansas, as most people probably know, like the same place that I'm from, and did that for like three years, and then after that went back to school in Arkansas because my mom you know wanted me to have a normal like school and childhood experience and it was like she was insistent that I like go school and go to college and all that stuff so then um yeah went through high school in Arkansas and then came back out here
for college okay wait and then started working again I have a question so when you go back to school in Arkansas do you still have that acting bug like are you doing theater in high school are you doing the plays I wasn't I did very much have like I knew I wanted to come back but I but I since i was about 12 I really I really wanted to be a movie director that was really what I always wanted to do And yeah I'm of course that was from you know being out here like because those are those are like like thank God like I don't have any like child actor horror stories like those are like really fun
years for me like when I think back about like childhood and stuff like yeah I have just like really fond you know kind of bizarre memories.
Oh man, that's so fascinating to me.
So that was yeah that was one of my many lives I've lived.
I mean question number one.
I know. Mind some goals there.
Yeah. Question number two.
Do you speak any other languages?
No. No. I wish. Can we go quickly to question number two?
I took Spanish in high school and college but it's like, if you don't use it, you forget it and I wish.
Yeah. Well, do you play a musical instrument?
I can play guitar. Not like excellently or anything but yeah, play guitar.
Right. I had a phase, when I lived in the building across the street, we DJed for a while, which was fun.
I guess DJing is a type of instrument.
It really was. I mean, it was in the like, it was in the like, when there was like, it was the last time there's kind of a real scene.
It was right before like camera phones, basically.
Did you have a DJ name?
Yeah. Actually me and my friend Chris Holmes, who's still a huge DJ, he's a Paul McCartney's opening act.
Oh my gosh. But we uh, we call herself show business.
I say that was pretty good.
Business with an S or a Z?
Who'd have asked? Who'd have asked?
Show business, taking the stage.
We had Chris made business cards one time and they said show business and then on the back I just said no requests.
I'm not sure that was funny.
With no contact info either, just that.
What's the place that you've been to that you absolutely loved?
I've been to a lot of places I liked.
I really enjoyed getting the film in London just cause the, and get in to like, live there for like an extended period, cause I did all the touristy stuff, like the walking tours and all that, you know like the Jack the Ripper historical walking tour.
Like I did all like with the group, it's like me and the other group walking around with a little map.
So that was pretty fun cause I mean it's one thing, you know, to like, visit somewhere, but to get to like, kind of like live somewhere for a while.
You know what's bizarre about that, when I left that season at the office, to do Kick -Ass Two, that was in London, and I was living at these furnished apartments It's like the Oakwood.
I don't know if people know what the Oakwood is.
Well, it's not even the Oakwood anymore, but - Yeah, it's just furnished apartments that a lot of people stand when they're filming.
Corporate housing. And the only other person that I ever saw every day in the gym or the lobby was John Malkovich. And we never spoke, and I didn't like - How low?
I think I said hello to him.
I'm pretty sure I told him this, because that was years before I worked with him in Arkansas.
But, yeah, getting to spend a lot of time in London was really fun, Cause I hate I hate long flights.
So I don't know if I'll like, I'm not somebody that like travels for fun.
Cause I like 12 hour flight is my nightmare.
And I feel like I spent so many years like traveling for work a lot.
Yeah. Which was great.
Cause you get to see a lot of places, you know, you get to work in like Miami and Atlanta in Vancouver and Toronto and London.
And I don't know when the next time I'll get back over there is.
So I'm, I'm, I'm happy that I got to, that someone paid me to, Yeah.
you know, go on an extended vacation over there was pretty good.
It's such a special place.
Jenna lived there, too, for a job.
I did, and it's one of my favorite memories, too, because it's like you said, I really - The city's like 2 ,000 years old.
It's just cool. And also, there's little things about, like, I do love to travel, but I like to stay places as long as possible, so I can do things like, what's their grocery store like?
No, totally, I agree.
You know, like, what, how do they sell their fruit here?
Right. I love details like that, the day to day.
Jenna left me a message one time And while she was over there, we would leave each other messages.
And she was like, well, today I went to buy a microwave. Yeah.
And you had it like you, it was a book?
Well, it was very strange.
I had to purchase a microwave for the flat that I was renting and the store you walked in and there was just a guy behind the counter.
And then there were like three catalogs.
There weren't items. No items, and then you would point to it and he would go like deep in the back bowels of beyond this door, behind the counter, and then he would come back with the microwave. It was like.
It's like when you order food and they have the picture.
Yes. Or if like Amazon was a store.
Was just a dude. And you just pointed and then they brought it out to you.
It was so interesting.
And that was when I asked the production where does one go to, how do you buy a microwave here?
They're like, oh, you go to this, catalog man.
Yeah, catalog man. She left me that message years ago, but I think about it all the time.
I don't know why. It really stuck with me.
Well, another thing was, they don't do drip coffee, like a drip coffee maker, where you just make like 12 cups of coffee at once.
I wanted one and I asked them, where does one get a drip coffee maker?
Catalog guy didn't know what I was talking about.
Everybody is like, what is this machine you speak of?
Because they just do like pour over French press.
They make one great cup of coffee in the morning and then they drink their tea, you're like I need 12 Cups I'm like I know.
I'm like want to make 12 at a time.
I'm American. I'm a thermos of coffee Yes, I want tons of coffee all the time so they had assigned me a driver for the show and They said he could also help me get settled and I remember one day I'll never forget it.
Oh man. I love this guy so much He he pulled up and he had the biggest smile on his face and he was holding a drip coffee maker in a box because that was the other thing like it has to have the right plug, you know Their outlets, I couldn't just bring mine.
I guess I could have done a converter But then I don't know I was worry.
I'm in start a fire.
So I am So he found one he found one and When we got to set he was so excited.
He read the directions.
He set it up in my trailer.
I made I made us a pot of coffee, shared a cup of coffee with him.
He was like I, it was like I, he'd never seen it before.
He's like, this was $1200.
I know. This coffee maker?
It was. I drove five hours to get it.
It was also, you guys, it was also red.
It was red. It was like a shiny red KitchenAid mixer, but it was a drip coffee maker.
And how happy were you to have it?
So happy to have it.
Do you still have it?
I don't, because when the show ended, they took all the things that I had bought for my apartment, and they put it in storage for me.
And then the show got canceled, and they said, what do you want us to do with all this stuff?
And it was like, well they had given me a budget to buy most of it, so I thought, well I don't need it.
And they said, well what we could do is, we could put it out, and we could just let the crew take whatever they want.
And I said, that's fine.
But you need to give my driver two things before you put everything out.
One is that coffee maker.
I just want him to have it.
And also the TV that I bought, because he carried it up four flights of stairs for me.
So he gets both those things and then everybody can have anything else.
I bet every time people come over to his house and they see the TV, he's like, you know his TV, that is right.
Are there? Like John Voight's pencil on Seinfeld, you know?
This is like somebody like that show that other show me in Jake Ron, I'm dying up here.
Robert Forster. The Great Robert Forster, I had the pleasure of knowing him.
Oh, then you probably have this also, he gave us all letter openers.
Do you have the Robert Forster letter opener?
No, I never worked with him, I knew him like as a friend.
He would come, he and I would both lecture to acting students and he had this great spiel that he would do and so that's I knew him through a mutual friend and we would speak to aspiring actors and he is a gem.
He was awesome great stories.
Jackie Brown is one of my favorite movies.
Yeah and you have the letter.
He gave us each each of the cast members he gave us each a this nice little box and you open it up and it's this beautiful silver letter opener.
I use this thing every day.
Every time I see it, if anybody ever sees it, I tell them, it's Robert Foster's letter opener.
It's like John Boyd's pencil in Georgia's car.
Totally. But apparently, he gave these to literally, he said this, he's like, I give these to everyone that I work with.
I've met other people that worked with them, and they're like, Oh yeah, I got the letter opener.
It's like his thing.
It was his thing. He had his guy.
It's such a good one.
Is it too late? Is it too late?
I want to get a thing too.
I know, I want a thing, too.
I know, it's so classy.
I just turned 50 and I think 50 is when you get a thing that you can then do because otherwise it might be, it might be condescending if you're like 23 and you're like, here's your gift for working with me.
That's pretty ballsy, though.
Once you're older, you can hand out a thing.
Oh, totally, yeah. You have gravity.
Oh, I'm starting that.
I don't know what I'm giving away, but I'm going to start it.
I want to do it with you.
We have to do different things, though.
Yeah, we'll come up with something.
Yeah, I don't know what it should be, but I thought the letter opener was such a classy thing because it looks nice.
It's silver. It's beautiful, and it's so functional.
Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm saying it's so functional.
The kids watching the TikTok are not opening letters, but they'll get bills.
They don't know what paper mail is.
They don't know what paper mail is, yeah.
Again, for the listeners, this is Clark, I'm 75 years old.
And that means Jenna and I are dot, dot, dot.
Okay, we have two more call sheet questions for you.
Here they are. Number four, what do you like to do on the weekends?
I don't know that my weekend activities that much different from my weekday activity cause I don't have like a nine to five, you know?
Like, I like to go to the comic store.
Like with the comic book store, and you physically hold all comic books.
I love that I used to be into comics.
I had the other comic store rummage around.
Yeah. Do you have one that's like your favorite store?
My favorite is a House of Secrets in Burbank.
That's that's my favorite one and it's partially my favorite, because I literally went there as a child when I was a child actor, so it's got you know, the nice nostalgia for me, plus it's also just an Excellently ran store and the guys that run under are very nice.
What's your favorite series?
Of all time, like Uncanny X -Men like the Prime like 1980s, Chris Claremont and Uncanny X -Men that's pretty tough to beat.
But I think that's like a seminal thing for like so many like creative people my age like that and Watchmen.
Yeah. Those are the two I feel like those are the two biggest like because like the old, you know, the 80s X -Men I think is basically like the template of kind of like what Buffy the Vampire Slayer was, that kind of formula.
I feel like it kind of went out and had a much bigger impact than people realize.
Did you ever get into the comedic autobiographical comics?
Yeah, like Barcrum and Peteraine and that kind of stuff.
Or like Joe Matt or whoever?
Yeah, totally, totally.
But I mean for me, the childhood thing was definitely like the X -Men, the Spider -Man, the superhero stuff.
But um, but no there's there's I mean, there's really great work being done now in comics.
Yeah. All right final question Angela.
All right Clark What is your favorite midnight snack?
Oh I Think my favorite midnight snack is probably it's either fruity pebbles or or the cocoa pebbles You like a little cereal a little cereal and I specifically like those to like the post brand cereals Did you do commercials for that?
No, just Kellogg's.
But I love the two Flintstones branded cereals.
Milk. The rice crispy versions are good too.
The cocoa crispies are also good.
Oh yeah, I do full milk.
This is another like, I am 75 years old, I still buy milk, like regular milk, not - No fancy milk.
No, none of these fake milks.
Just real. It can be the real deal.
Yeah, full milk. I see a milk commercial in your future.
Not even like two percent.
I want the whole, the whole, yeah.
Well, Clark, thank you so much. Thank you guys.
For you, coming by and hanging out with us today.
This was a pleasure.
Yeah. This is super fun.
So wonderful to see you.
By the way, your email that you sent back, oh my god, this is great.
This is so funny. Wait, you have, we have to tell.
Yeah, I should tell this, so when I was, when my first movie, Arkansas, the first movie I directed was coming out, it was in the midst of, you know, all the COVID stuff.
And so I texted and emailed all the people I knew that had, you know, big like Instagram or social media following.
So I was like, hey, you know, I'm just like trying to get the word out people watched this movie.
And I sent this email, I sent it to you amongst, you know, a bunch of other people I know.
And you emailed me, you responded to the email like a month ago.
Yeah. And the emails, the emails from like, Two months ago, the emails from 2020.
And I when I was like looking for your email.
God, I don't know, maybe to my spam or whatever but I was like oh my god Clark I go this is great about your movie this is like one of the things Jenna knows that Sam and Cathy they all know that my inbox unusual says about I don't know what's it say today three thousand eight hundred and fourteen oh that physically hurt me just I have to zero mine out.
I have to zero it. I cannot.
That would give me...
I have whittled that down.
You would not believe.
I wouldn't be able to function.
What's in there? Is it just from like Michaels, like $5 coupons for Michaels and Anne Gauds.
Yes. And I need to go through it.
But anyway, so I missed your email.
But now I have put little...
But the funny thing is you didn't send a new email.
You responded to that one and that was what I loved.
We're like Clark, so sorry, I missed this.
Oh my god. I was trying to open up emails.
I had no one to up.
I don't know. It was so ridiculous.
Do you worry you may have missed other like way more important emails?
I'm sure I have. I'm sure I have. I just have to let it go.
It doesn't keep me up at night at all.
It keeps me up at night.
It bothers me. In our business partnership over this last five years, Angela has had to create so many strategies for e -mailing.
I've said to her too, I've said like, how do I contact you like most reliably?
Text me. Are you better on text?
Yes. I'm so much better on text.
Noted. Sometimes you can't an e -mail is necessary for business.
I will sent her an e -mail, and then I will text her and say, I just sent you an email.
I'll tell you what you need.
What? You need to get a fax machine.
I'd love a fax machine, because I would hear it screaming, screaming, screaming, screaming.
And you would know.
Because Jenna needs me.
Now, would you like the batphone going off?
It would be. You'd be like, oh, this s*** is serious.
But I have. But it's either a doctor's office or Jenna.
Or Jenna. Yeah. Or the kid's school.
Yeah, either way, serious.
That's it. I did create all these little folders now.
And you can tell the folder what emails emails to put in it, and so I have my business folder.
So that only has like 12 emails.
Since she did that, she's been a different person business -wise.
I can't say. I think you should think about the facts though.
Personal email -wise, business -wise.
I think you should buy two fax machines, one for your house, one for your house.
I kind of want to do this.
I do too. If you get one, I'll get one.
You have to get a landline.
I have a landline. What is this do we have a landline?
I have a landline. It's my passion.
and then, you guys, I had a landline, and then my husband was like, we never use the landline.
I should get it back.
I'm not getting rid of mine.
It's like the physical newspaper.
I'm gonna try to enjoy it as long as we can.
I get the physical newspaper.
Wait, are you, Jenna has the landline because she's worried about like a zombie apocalypse and that way she will have a landline.
Hey, I mean, when the fires hit, the first thing I did was get out my little boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, phone and plug it in the wall.
Yep. Because I was like if I need to alert someone of this exact place I'm calling 911 and they immediately know your address.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's basically free with my cable and internet too.
I think it's like 10 more dollars a month or something.
Alright, so if we each go a fax machine - I'll fax you guys, yeah.
Oh my god. We get sent each other like the gag faxes, the funny drawings, memes basically.
memes. Memes, but we'll fax them.
Oh, the first memes.
That really was that really was the original.
That really was. Yeah.
Aw. Well, this was a delight.
Clark, thanks so much. Thank you so much. My pleasure.
Email me when your movie comes out.
Fax her. Text me. I'll just come over you.
All right. You know where we are now.
Well, that was absolutely amazing.
And were we right about the call sheet questions?
Clark is so interesting, he's so layered.
Oh my goodness. Well thank you all for writing in your questions and comments, and thank you Clark for coming in the studio today.
Yeah, I am really loving having these sit down one -on -ones with the cast members of the office.
Yeah, and getting to reconnect.
Yeah. Now we're gonna get fax machines, so we're gonna be in touch all the time.
We hope you guys have a great week.
See ya soon. Thank you for listening to Office Ladies!
Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey.
Our Executive Producer is Cassie Jerkins, Our Audio Engineer is Sam Kiefer, and Our Associate Producer is Ainsley Bubbeko.
Odyssey's Executive Producers are Jenna Wise Berman and Leah Reece -Dennis.
Office Ladies is mixed and mastered by Chris Basil.
Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.
