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Do you like to travel?
So do we. Today, find out the difference between three key words when it comes to travel and learn which one is a little antiquated in English.
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Hey Aubrey, how you doing today?
I'm great Lindsay, how are you?
Good, any trips coming up in the near future for you?
Anything? Yeah, I mean not too far this summer.
I'm headed up to Idaho and I'm very excited.
I may have mentioned to you we are going to do the Hiawatha Bike Trail.
Yes. it. I can't wait.
If you guys have ever been to the Northwest in the U .S., you may have done this or you may have seen it.
It used to be a train track and now it's a bike path because there's no train there anymore.
And you're up in the treetops, these super tall pine trees.
Wow! It's like a 15 mile just kind of coasting through.
And there are like 10 tunnels.
One of them is a mile long so you have to have a light because you're just in pure darkness part of the time.
Ooh, sounds a little scary.
It sounds a little scary.
You're biking through the tunnel just to...
You're on a bike. Ooh.
the tunnels, they shuttle you to the top and then you coast down for like fifteen miles.
It takes four or five hours, but just looking at the videos of other people that have done it, it looks so beautiful.
It's called The Route of the Hiawatha.
I've always wanted to do it.
It's a bucket list item.
So I'm excited. I'm doing it this summer.
Amazing. You'll have to come back and tell us stories on the podcast of how it goes and what adventures you get on.
Right? Yeah. Be sure to follow us on social media.
I'll post pictures videos.
You can see it. I can't wait.
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This listener is Antonella, one of our amazing app users, app listeners.
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So check it out. Good stuff Aubrey I'm gonna read the question.
Okay? Yeah, let's do it.
Hi Lindsay and Michelle and Aubrey.
You are all fantastic I love your app and your podcast also.
Woo. Thank you. I have a question for you.
What about the difference between a journey, travel, and trip?
I hear you every morning from Italy sending love Antonella.
Wow. That is wonderful.
I know. Thank you so much for the review Antonella and for the great question.
These words are interestingly different, but in some ways the same.
I'm excited to dive into this.
Yeah. And I'm always game for talking about traveling and trips and all of that good stuff.
Not because, I mean, for me that's when I feel the most alive, is when I'm wandering the world and seeing new things.
That's when I come alive.
I don't know about you, Aubrey, but.
Yes, absolutely. And conversations with everyone, right?
Yes. What is more fun to talk about than travel?
Nothing. Yes. This is the best way to connect with someone to ask about recent trips, travel that they have loved.
You need this vocab for those connection moments.
Yeah. So, let's break it down.
We'll start with maybe the most straightforward one.
The the one we hear often, right, is travel, okay?
As a verb, right? Yes, exactly.
So this is just, of course, the act of moving from one place to another.
What's interesting is we do use this a few different ways, right, it can be about traveling to another country, of course, or just to work, right?
Travel to work every day.
Yes, exactly. So I travel to work every day by car.
I guess, yeah, travel to work.
I suppose, for me personally, I use the verb travel by car to go to work like a daily commute?
I mean, I tend to use it more for trips.
What about you? Interesting.
So I'm curious. This is maybe more regional, right?
If you're like, I only use this for traveling, if I say I'm traveling it's to a country, I definitely hear this and I feel like I use it too to be like, I'm talking about my commute, like, you know, how do you get to work?
Well, I travel like, once upon a time, I'd be like, I traveled to work on the subway.
By train. Travel by train.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It works for both.
Maybe it's just personal preference, right?
Yeah. Could be. And it's possible that it's more regional, right?
Where you grew up, they might use it more often just for like international travel, just like an actual trip.
Or just saying I love to travel.
I imagine many of our listeners are this way, just like us, right?
Yes. And if you say, I love to travel, this is definitely implied that you mean these fun trips visiting other places.
This is not talking about your commute to work.
your morning commute.
I mean, that can be a journey too, especially in the New York subway, for example.
It could be a kind of journey, yeah.
Different kind of experience.
Or you might just ask someone, do you have any plans to travel soon?
I think this is one of the best conversation starters, right?
Because what if everyone wants to talk about their upcoming trips?
You asked me that at the top of the episode and that was really fun for me to share about the Hiawatha Trail that I'm going to be able to do.
Of course, of course.
People want to share these exciting moments of their lives.
So So, let them do it and then find out if you have something in common, depending on what kind of trip are they going on.
Like if you had said, yeah, I'm going on a Disney cruise and I'm so excited, I might've thought, maybe we're not connecting on that level, right.
Right, we don't have the same time.
Because I'm not a Disney cruise person, right.
So we learn about the person, we see if there's a connection.
These are useful conversation starters, okay?
Absolutely yes. And travel is used as a noun.
And in this, it's synonymous with the word trip, which we'll go over next, right?
to say like oh this is the type of travel I love and maybe it's like you're in first class so you're telling someone like yeah now we're talking this is the type of travel I love.
Oh yeah another way to learn about someone and their values and their lifestyle right do they travel first class or coach right yeah right yeah next one is TRIP.
So just a noun a specific instance of travel usually it's a planned excursion with a specific purpose.
Okay. Exactly. So, for example, how was your trip?
And this could be a road trip that they went on the last week, or maybe they went to Thailand, right?
It doesn't imply anything length of time, a trip could be short or long.
Exactly. Or I'm going on a trip this weekend.
So again, this could be sometimes you hear like a guys trip or a girls trip this expression, where adults will go with their own friends like with their friends of the same gender sometimes, right?
just go to go party or hang out or bond.
Exactly or I don't know if I'll be able to go on any trips this year.
One thing that was interesting that I as I was thinking of examples we would never use travel and trip together.
We would not say like I'm travelling on a trip this year.
It's really one or the other even though trip is just a noun.
Travel is more often a verb.
It would be redundant to use both in the same sentence.
Right. I more often hear I'm taking a trip.
Right. Going on a trip, taking a trip, but we wouldn't say, I'm travelling on a trip later.
No, we wouldn't use travel.
We're travelling on a trip, now that's doubling up.
Just one or the other, make a choice here.
Right, right, right.
And then number three is journey.
This is a noun and this one is more fun, right, because it adds dreaminess.
What is the connotation here?
Yeah, so this is interesting.
It can be about travel, it can be usually a longer, more significant, maybe transformative travel experience.
If someone says I went on a journey traveling Europe for three months But we also could say just I went on a trip for three months Often journey isn't actually used about travel.
Right? Yes. Yes. I love this This is gonna be can be more of a metaphor, right?
We're speaking metaphorically like in the connected communicator course Our listeners go on what we call a journey to fluency and in that course It actually is literally a trip by car with me by on video video lesson 12 ,000 miles around the US, you get to do that, but then you're also going on a journey to fluency.
And then sometimes we could say, we're going on a personal journey to enlightenment or something, right?
We can do it in different places.
Yeah. That's a good example, because you went on the road trip, right?
But you're bringing everyone with you on your journey, on their journey, because they're learning English, they're meeting all of these interesting people hearing these conversations.
We would call that a journey.
There was more to it than just the road trip.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So, for example, tell me about your English learning journey, like we said, or what would be another sample sentence, Aubrey?
Yeah, you might say, oh, my education was quite the journey.
And so this really has nothing to do with travel.
It's another word for experience.
It was quite the experience, especially in this case, it might've been really negative.
There might've been a lot of pitfalls like, oh, it was quite the journey, meaning like there were some negative things that happened.
Exactly, and that's the implication.
I know when you say that, okay, you've had some ups and downs in your education, some things happen, maybe you've overcome it, almost like a movie script, kind of.
Exactly, right? I wouldn't say this if it were very straightforward, everything was easy, I finished on time.
And I wouldn't call it a journey, especially with the quite, quite the journey.
I'm implying that it was out of the ordinary.
Yeah, and we could potentially do another episode just on this word as a concept, as a metaphorical concept.
Sometimes we say, you know, this person's on his own journey.
It's a way if maybe they're doing something we disagree with and we see kind of a train wreck happening, and we might say something very positive like that.
Right. This is a really funny sort of critical thing that will say be like, oh, that's not my journey or he's on his own journey.
That's a great idea.
Hit follow guys. We need to do that follow up episode for sure.
That's going to be a fun one.
All right, Aubrey, what else do we need to know here?
Yeah, we just want to point out journey is used as a verb, but it's a little bit outdated.
I will see this in older books, maybe the classics.
He journeyed to a far off destination using it as a verb.
You'll rarely hear this now in spoken conversation.
We don't use it really in common speech, at least not in the US.
Yeah, so true. I love that.
So we need to know what words are in fashion.
What are we using now?
And now it's just more of a noun, really.
Right, now it's a, took a trip, travelled somewhere.
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All right Aubrey, role play time!
Talking about upcoming trips.
Yay! My favorite topic!
Okay. Yes, wanna start us out?
Yes. You said you're traveling to the Philippines this year, right?
I did have a trip planned there to visit a friend.
But she's actually moving back to the states.
Oh bummer, was she living there long?
A couple of months, her grandparents are from there.
So she was on a journey to see where they grew up.
Nice, and sometimes people will do this.
They'll visit, you know, the land of their grandparents or their parents.
And that is, that's also a metaphorical use right?
It is an actual trip, it's a journey.
but it's also an inner journey.
Exactly. Right? Because you're trying to find out your roots, where your ancestors lived, what life was like for them, your history, that would be considered a journey.
This reminds me of the movie, a real pain.
Did you see that? It won a bunch of Oscars.
It's with Kieran Culkin and Jesse Eisenberg.
Oh yeah. I highly recommend it.
They're Jewish. Their grandma was from Poland, and they go to this journey to see where she lived and they visit an actual concentration camp.
And so this is the only time I have seen real footage inside a concentration camp because I haven't had the chance to visit them.
It's very sobering, but the film is really quite beautiful.
I definitely recommend it.
I'll check that out, good movie recommendation.
All right, let's go through our role play.
Aubrey, what was the first thing I said here?
Right, you said you're traveling to the Philippines this year, right?
So you could say you're taking a trip to the Philippines, but we can use the verb here.
You're traveling to the Philippines this year, right?
Yep. Good. And then you said, I did have a trip planned there to visit a friend, but she's actually moving back to the States.
Okay, exactly. And notice we don't ever see them both, right?
You wouldn't say, I did have a trip planned to travel to the Philippines, right?
If you have one, you've already, that's already implied that there's travel involved when you say trips.
So you wouldn't use them both.
Mhmm. Good. And then what was the last thing we said?
I said, she was on a journey to see where they grew up.
Right? So this is like you said, this is a journey about, you know, more what's happening inside you, your thoughts, your, you know, it's more of an experience.
Yeah. And I think the biggest mistake to watch out for, I have heard non native speakers use the word journey when they, when really the word would be trip that we're looking for, or even sometimes I'll see on websites that have been translated from another language into English or even different airlines will sometimes say journey and you can, you can get away with it, it works, we get it, but trying to throw in there your trip would also be kind of modern, right?
Absolutely, and you might see this in like we were saying in older books, right, The Odyssey, they might say, he went on a journey.
Right, we just don't say that much anymore, it's really a little bit outdated and equated, there are ways that we would say this now that are much more updated.
Yeah, or even like International Airlines that have translated their apps into English or something, you might see us for sure.
So super interesting, important to be relevant.
Aubrey, what's the connection skill?
We know what it is, right?
Absolutely. People love to talk about recent trips they went on or upcoming trips.
If you have coworkers in English or friends, anyone, this is such a great connection skill to ask them about a trip they have planned, travel coming up.
So fun. So good. Well enjoy the Hiawatha Trail.
Can't wait to hear the stories, Aubrey, when you get back.
All right. Absolutely.
Awesome. Thanks guys.
This was fun. Enjoy your upcoming trips.
Hopefully we all have some fun summer plans.
For sure. All right.
Talk to you soon. Awesome.
Thanks, Lindsay. Bye.
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