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i hope it goes well she's very nervous what about you oh my gosh good luck we're all pulling for her i love that um well yeah today i'm tonight i'm going over to the botanical gardens for a i don't know, an evening walk event or something across the park from my house.
Yes. Very culture -y.
Nice. I love that. Well, you noticed I asked Lindsay, what about you?
Which is an interesting follow -up, right?
If they've asked you an interesting question and you want to know their answer as well, you can say, what about you?
We got a great question from a listener about what about you versus how about you that I'm excited to answer today.
And I think this possibly could be one of our top 20 most important episodes for Connection, Aubrey, because you want to make sure you're flipping things back to other people and asking them kind of that maybe not always the same question, but a similar question.
You're not being a, what do we call in the business English course?
What's our favorite monster?
So don't be a monster.
You don't want to just talk about yourself, answer questions over and over you want to.
Yes. Make it a conversation, make it a back and forth.
Yeah, it's true. And now our listeners who come to open conversation club or fluency party also know the term me monster because we talk about in our small groups in our breakout rooms how important it is to bring the conversation back to someone else and this would be a great tool for our students right
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Okay. So we've got a question from a YouTube listener.
We're getting a lot of questions lately from YouTube, Aubrey.
I love that. Yes. And this one was written in Chinese characters.
So I put it in Google Translate and Google Translate said the characters would be Shuya.
Okay. And then it was R4Z after.
So I hope you're out there listening.
I hope that's correct.
I was like, oh, I wonder what Google Translate would give me for these characters.
I love that. I love that.
Yeah. We should try to do that more often.
So we make sure that we try to say the names of our listeners.
I love it. So good.
All right. So Aubrey, do you want to read the question?
Sure. Oh, and then Sophia is the name.
That's similar to Shuya.
So I wonder if it's Shuya in Chinese.
It makes sense to me.
We'll have to see. Maybe this listener will write to us and let us know.
I know. I want to know.
Let us know for sure.
How correct is Google Translate?
I would like to know.
So it said, Hi, Lindsay and Aubrey.
I'm Sophia and All Ears English is my favorite podcast.
I love that. Thank you for writing in.
I have a quick question about the difference between what about you and how about you.
I understand both are used to ask about someone's opinion or situation, but is there a subtle difference in when to use each?
Thanks so much for your help.
Thank you for writing in Sophia.
This is a great question.
Yeah, it's a question that's really, again, based in connection.
So I'm really excited to answer this so our listeners can start using it right away.
All right. So I did a little bit of a deep dive because when I hear them, I feel like there's no difference.
They're very interchangeable.
I would think they mean the same.
But in some forums, there were native speakers saying, oh, I feel like this would imply.
And these really complicated things like, I think this would imply that you know what I'm going to do that?
And it seems so confusing.
Ignore all of that, you guys.
It's not true for everyone.
All of everything that was written, I'm like, no, I don't really agree.
I really feel like you can use them interchangeably without worrying about any kind of subtle nuance.
What do you think? Yeah, I agree with you, Aubrey.
I mean, on this show, we definitely go into nuances, right?
We go into deep, deep, deep, but only when it could help you, not when it's going to just confuse you as a listener, right?
So we believe for these two, the difference doesn't matter.
I 100 % agree with you.
Absolutely. I agree.
And if there is someone that's like, oh, I feel like there is this tiny, it might just be for like their region or how they grew up.
It's not going to be the case for everyone.
For me and the way I grew up using them and how I hear them used like in podcast TVs or conversations, they're interchangeable.
Exactly. And our whole philosophy of connection, not perfection is that we make sure we don't get hung up on mistakes or tiny details of the language where in connection suffers right connection is at the forefront for us that is the most important thing so we don't want you to be confused between the differences
here so for this particular episode these two are interchangeable okay absolutely so we'll give you a little examples with both of them we're going to do a mini role play for each because that's how it's used the most often someone asks you a question you answer And then you use one of these to ask
them the same question back.
Okay. All right. Sounds good.
All right. I'll start us with the first role play.
Ready? Yes. Hey, Lindsay, what did you do this weekend?
Oh my gosh. This weekend, I took a drive up to a town called Nederland and went to a tiny little community brewery where there was a bake sale.
There was a rock sale.
It was one of those places, Aubrey, where you just see the whole community in one place.
What about you? What did you do?
Oh, I didn't do anything as fun as that.
I'm really jealous.
I took kids to lacrosse games and basically driving my kids around.
So let's trade. I would rather do that next weekend.
Next weekend we'll trade lives.
All right. There you go.
Perfect. All right.
Good stuff. And then I want to point out you can also, especially if someone answers the question and it's longer, sometimes it will be more natural to say, what about you?
And then sort of repeat the question, right?
Yes. You could say like, what about you?
What did you do this weekend?
I will often do this.
And even if it's not long, the way we started the episode, right?
When you asked what I have going on today and I shared, I might do the same thing.
What about you? What are you doing today?
Exactly. And I think intonation becomes important when we do repeat the question, right?
So when I flip it back to you, I would say, you know, what about you?
What did you do this weekend?
Right? What did you do this weekend?
Yes. We hit the you hardest, right?
To share like I'm asking the same question, but I want to know about you.
Exactly. Exactly. Love it.
And then we're always conscious there of trying not to dominate the conversation again.
You want to avoid being that me monster.
Keep it short, keep it sweet and throw it back to the other person and get a sense of how interesting or interested they are in what you've said.
And maybe they'll ask you a follow -up question.
It's a real back and forth.
It's a game of badminton, right?
Yeah. This is the skill to keep the conversation going.
How do we do that? We don't want it to just fade out or someone just kind of walk away.
We want to keep it going, keep it interesting.
And to do that, we avoid monologues.
We avoid monologues.
Yes. Okay. So same thing with how about you?
Let's do a mini role play here.
You want to start us, Lindsay?
Hey, did you make any New Year's resolutions?
Yes. I have resolved to not drink alcohol with food.
I read that it's not good because then your body is burning the alcohol instead of the food and you're going to burn less calories.
So I'm working on that.
How about you? I like that.
Oh, I have, I'm still thinking about my New Year's resolution.
Can I decide by February?
Yes. Right. Give me some time.
Give me some time. I love that.
And I could, again, I could have said, how about you?
Did you make any resolutions?
Right. That's very natural to repeat the question after saying either what about you or how about you?
Yes, I love it. So two really good ways to throw it back to the other person.
What about you and how about you?
Is there a third, Aubrey, that we could use?
Yeah, we're going to share a third here, which is what do you think this is a little different?
What about you? And how about you are so general and versatile for anything the other person said, just like how does how would you answer this question?
So what that means sort of?
What do you think is more specific to use after someone, after you share an opinion and you want to know their opinion, you could be like, what do you think?
I love it. So this could be even more useful potentially talking about just topical items in the news, societal events, current events, that kind of thing.
So let's see what our role play looks like here.
You ready? Yeah. All right.
So what do you think about the changes the city made to its recycling program?
Oh, I get why they did it.
I guess it was really cost prohibitive, it's too bad though.
What do you think? Yeah, I think it's true.
I think a lot of cities are shutting down recycling.
Isn't that true? Have you seen that, Aubrey?
That's happened in Phoenix.
They won't recycle glass anymore.
I think the problem was people weren't cleaning it well enough and it was just costing them too much and sorting.
And so they've just said, we can't afford to do this, unfortunately.
Yeah. Interesting. Yeah.
Wow. Anything we need to know about this role play here?
Well, you can add one of the above, right?
How about you? Or what about you before you say, what do you think?
So I could have said, you know, I get why they did it.
It's too bad, though.
You know, what about you?
What do you think? So we sort of double these up really often.
Sure. Absolutely. So you have a little flexibility here.
And you can use them in conjunction with each other as well.
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two words you would think that's more informal more casual because it's shorter but it's actually sort of a more formal construction to after someone answers you know after you answer something to say and you feels quite formal yeah Let's see what this looks like then.
Here we go. So what are you doing for the holiday?
Oh, I'm flying out East to visit family.
And you? Yeah. Okay.
I love that. So you can see how, if I said, what about you?
How about you? That's a little more casual, a little more friendly.
And you feels like maybe we don't know each other as well.
Maybe we're co -works.
Maybe you're my boss, right?
And you, it's a little more formal.
It feels a little, yeah, it does.
It feels a little like there's a little bit more distance there right um for some reason or sometimes what i just say is you right i'm flying out east to visit family you yeah yeah you ever say that or it's just me i do i say that i hear it absolutely um i'm trying to think if that is more formal or not i
feel like how about you and what about you are the most casual even though they're more words which is interesting yeah i'm not sure where the just that you stands on the spectrum of casual and formal, actually.
It feels a little more casual to me, but it could be used also with someone you don't know, like a barista at the coffee shop.
Totally. I think that one's really flexible.
That could work anywhere, probably just you.
Yeah, for sure. All right.
So in this role play, Aubrey, we are co -workers who see each other at the dog park.
All right. So you're a dog owner.
Nice. Yes. So it's fictional because I don't really have a dog.
Yeah. All right. Here we go.
Hey there. I didn't realize you live close to here.
I don't really, but it's the best dog park in town.
So much shade. What about you?
Do you live close to here?
Yeah. Just around the corner.
Oh, it's such a beautiful neighborhood.
Have you gotten to know your neighbors?
Oh yeah. A lot of really great people live close by.
I love chatting with everyone who's out walking their dogs.
How about you? Good neighbors?
Yeah, for sure. We've lived there about 10 years.
So we've met most of them.
Hey, I've been meaning to ask what you think about that dress code change at work.
Oh, I hate it. I miss being able to wear jeans and a t -shirt.
What do you think? Same.
I'm dreading having to dress up.
Yeah. I love this. And this is such a realistic conversation because this is what we do as human beings.
We need feedback from other people.
We can't just go off and say our opinion.
Most people want to have a sense.
Do people agree with me?
How am I landing? How are my thoughts landing?
Right. We don't want to have that situation where we come out really strong with an opinion.
The other person's like, oh, I disagree actually.
And now we've created this awkward situation.
No, it's just how the human mind works.
Right. And so this is, this is incredibly useful for our listeners.
So first you said, Aubrey, I don't live close to here, but it's the best dog park in town.
So much shade. Right.
And here again, you dropped the pronoun and the verb.
So instead of saying, there is so much shade, you say so much shade, how much shade.
Yeah. What about you?
Yeah. And this is where I added the question again, right?
I said, what about you?
Do you live close to here?
And I could just say, what about you, but this is very natural to repeat the question often to make sure they know what question you're asking.
Okay. Because honestly, here I've said enough that they might think I'm asking, do you think this is the best dog park in town, right?
I just say, what about you?
I kind of need to clarify.
Yep. You need to recenter the conversation and that's your responsibility as the one asking the question.
Make it clear. Absolutely.
And then I said, you said it's a beautiful, have you gotten to know your neighbors?
And I said, yeah, a lot of really great people live here.
I love chatting with everyone.
And then I said, how about you?
And I again, repeated the question because it could have been another question, right?
Do you love chatting with everyone, chatting with people who are with their dogs.
So then you said, how about you, good neighbors?
And this will often shorten it too.
You don't need to repeat, do you have good neighbors?
If you say, how about you, good neighbors?
We know what you mean.
Yeah. And that's incredibly native and natural the way we asked that.
How about you, good neighbors?
It also sounds kind of positive, kind of uplifting.
It's a good exchange here.
Yeah. Right. We're assuming, we're assuming they're good neighbors.
You are, you're hedging in that direction.
Yeah, yeah. Okay. Then what did I say, Aubrey?
Then you were saying, oh, I hate this new dress code policy.
I miss being able to wear jeans and a t -shirt.
What do you think? And this is, like you said, there's an opportunity here to be honest if I'm like, you know, actually I'm excited about it.
But I think when I ask the question, there's probably a little bit of an implication that I don't love it.
Otherwise, why would I ask about it, right?
Oh, for sure. For sure.
So, and then you replied by saying, same, I'm dreading having to dress up.
So we're kind of just commiserating a little bit here, empathizing with how we feel about this new dress code, this change at work.
Yeah. And it's interesting to think about how the conversation would change depending on your answer, right?
I asked you about the dress code.
If you're like, I'm actually really excited to dress up.
I probably would just be like, yeah, it'll be different and change the subject.
If I'm not confrontational, I'm probably not going to say, Oh, well, I hate it.
Yeah. Most people are going to agree in some ways and find a way to agree.
Like, yeah, it'll be different.
Right. With that uplifting tone of voice and then just pivot to something else.
And we have done other episodes on All Our English about how to pivot the conversation.
Right. We did one about how to pivot away from politics and this could be another thing to pivot away from, which I'll bring maybe we should visit in a new episode someday.
Yeah, that would be great because this is such an important skill.
You don't want to increase or emphasize the awkwardness if you disagree.
Pivot away, find something else that you do have in common.
I love it. Now there's another episode we want to recommend that you guys go to right away as soon as you finish.
This is 1061. Continue the English conversation with today's phrases.
You'll want to go over to the app to type that in and find that one because that's pretty far back, Aubrey, right?
Yes. Just type in the number 1061 in the app to find it.
We have had a lot of students ask us like, how do I continue the conversation?
We have a little bit of a back and forth.
And then there's this moment where like, what more can I say?
So check out that episode.
We gave you a lot of great phrases depending on a lot of different situations of how you can keep the conversation going.
Yes. I love that. What's our takeaway for today?
Again, don't be a me monster, right?
Today's phrases are all vital to throw it back to the other person.
You want to know their answer as well to the question that they asked you.
Oh, for sure. And I want to see our listeners who are students in our courses.
If you're in our courses nowadays, you get invited to our open conversation club.
I want to see our students using these phrases from today's episode live in conversation with each other and in conversation with us, Aubrey.
Absolutely. That's my favorite.
We go to Open Conversation Club and I hear them use the vocabulary, the idioms, the phrases, strategies from the podcast, the best place to practice it.
It's amazing. It's amazing.
So we're excited to meet you.
And this month, we'll have a lot of new students coming into our courses.
So we're looking forward to meeting you in Open Conversation Club.
All right? Good stuff.
Awesome. I will see you there, Lindsay.
Yes. Sounds good. I'll talk to you soon, Aubrey.
Have a good one. You too.
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