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When you're in a conversation with a native speaker, how do you know if you should use the simple past, the present perfect, or the present perfect progressive.
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Hey there Aubrey. What have you been up to lately?
Oh, I have been going to a lot of movies with my kids and mostly because we bought this unlimited popcorn bucket, and I want to like, get my money's worth filling it every time.
And we watched Snow White yesterday, and we all loved it, which was especially surprising because it's been rated and reviewed really low.
So my expectations were that I was… but I was surprised.
I loved it so much. It's crazy to me that anyone reviewed it low.
So then I kind of dove into like, why people are reviewed. And I really disagree with everything they're saying about the movie.
So everybody out there listening, go check it out and decide for yourself.
I think it's a fantastic film that really modernized the story of Snow White and removed a lot of what was problematic about the original version.
So check it out. I loved it.
All right. All right.
Excellent. Well, I am going to the movies this weekend so I have to decide what movie to see.
So we'll see. I know but you don't have little kids, so maybe not.
But anyone out there who has young children like this is a great movie.
All right. Good to know.
Good to know. Excellent.
So you've been going to the movies.
I love it. So today we're getting into a little grammar and what you said there Aubrey was I have been going to a lot of movies.
Yeah, so we have the past past perfect progressive here, and then I said we watched Snow White, so that's past simple and that's good to point out that we rarely stick with one verb tense in a sentence and sometimes we have flexibility because I could say I've gone to I have gone to a lot of movies and just used past perfect there.
I could also have used past simple.
Like there's often flexibility.
This makes verb tenses really tricky, but it also makes it real.
I've been reviewing some of our transcripts from our professional English course, and it's incredible how real our interviews with native speakers are, right?
It doesn't follow the textbooks, right?
What we said in these conversations, we're always moving from one tense to the other in this way that doesn't feel like it would be covered in a textbook, but it's real English.
Because it's not scripted it's how we actually speak.
Exactly, exactly. So I'm excited to get into this for our listeners today.
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And this episode is inspired by a student question, right?
Exactly, this is from Helmut, who goes by Helle, shout out to Helle, who asks great questions in our community whenever you sign up for any of our courses you're automatically admitted into our community.
You get live speaking practice, you get answers to your questions, and they often inspire really good conversations among community members.
And as soon as I saw this one I said I'm gonna make an episode for all there's English out of this because we get this question a lot.
It's such a good one.
I'm excited to dive into this.
Ooh, okay, I'm gonna ahead and read the question.
It's a little bit of a long one.
So buckle in, right?
Buckle up, buckle in, but let's listen in because we're gonna get a lot out of today's episode.
So here it is, I'm trying to figure out when to use the correct past tense and I'm unsure when to use past simple, present perfect and present perfect continuous.
For example, I talked to her, I've talked to her anytime in the past and it has no relevance to the present.
But why should I say that and in what case should I say that?
That makes no sense, right?
Aubrey why don't you read the next piece so that it's not just me reading.
talk to her like I have talked to her I have talked to her in the past the processes completely finished but it has relevance to the present I have talked to her and she promised me she will change her behavior is the simple past in this case generally the wrong tense because why should I say that when it has no influence on the present I have been talking to her I've talked to her in the past but the result is not finished I have been talking to her about the project and we will finish it tomorrow?
It's very confusing because we do not have these tenses in German.
Oh, it's such a good question.
This has been tricky for me learning French and Spanish because we can't translate directly.
We see that the verb tenses work differently in different languages and we need to understand, you guys see that English language users often are very flexible with this.
You see them use two different ones for the same situation, or two native speakers will do it differently, is it a mistake, is it not?
There's probably more flexibility than textbooks teach you.
Okay, so don't worry guys, we do have two core rules, I guess we could call these rules, right?
In categories that you can go by as a rule of thumb when you decide what tends to use, right?
Exactly, because sometimes any of them work, which actually seems to make it more confusing.
So we have these two buckets, This is really going to help clarify.
The first one is, when it is unimportant to the message or the story you're telling, you can often choose any of these tenses.
And this is what can be the most confusing if you're just trying to track Native speakers and what they're saying.
So if we take Helmut's example, for example, right, you talked to someone and she promised to change.
If the person you're telling this to won't care when you talk to her or how many times any of these past tense verb tenses could work.
They each have a slightly different implication, but it's so subtle and it may not matter to the story, and when it doesn't matter, native speakers use them interchangeably.
Okay, I love it. So let's give some examples here, right?
So when we use the present perfect.
I've talked to her and she promised to change, okay?
So maybe we talked to her multiple times, or maybe we will again, but maybe we won't talk to her again.
It could have just been once that she promised to change, and never again, right?
Exactly, and it doesn't really matter to the story.
So we might use present perfect, or we might use past simple, right?
It really depends on whether it matters to the story.
So especially in conversational English, native speakers will use these pretty interchangeably when it doesn't matter.
Okay, what about with the simple past here?
With the same sentence, I might say, I talked to her and she promised to change.
Maybe I spoke to her just once at a specific time and I won't need to again, but it could also be true that I talked to her multiple times.
It really doesn't matter to the story.
It doesn't matter to the person I'm telling.
And so I might use past simple.
Right. Or you could use the present perfect continuous.
It doesn't really matter.
I've been talking to her and she promised to change.
we could have talked many times or maybe we just talked once earlier today, right, but it's irrelevant.
Exactly, if it doesn't matter to the story, any of them work.
Okay. Now we get to the second bucket because when it is important to the story, which past tense you choose matters and often what will happen is you'll be telling a story and you'll use whatever verb tense you want but then if someone does suddenly it does matter because someone asks a specific question and like wait when did you talk to her?
Or how many times did you talk to her?
Then you're going to need to use the correct tense to be clear about what happened.
Yeah, like if you're a detective, right?
You hear them use a certain tense, that might flag you for asking another question.
Yeah, sometimes it matters.
I think about I had a conversation with my brother recently where he had talked to a friend of mine that they were potentially going to start dating.
I'm like, but wait, when did you talk to her last And how many times have you talked to her, it mattered.
So I want the right verb tense.
Yeah, it's kind of funny how sometimes grammar is just, it doesn't matter that much. And sometimes it really, really does for the meaning and we grab on to any hints that we can find and that grammar is one of them.
So again, we're moving over to the second scenario, which is when the tense is important to the story, right?
Which past tense you choose does matter, okay?
Right. So for instance, if someone asks you, wait, how many times did you talk to her about that?
You would use the present simple if you wanna say, we just talked once or we talked a few times and you're talking about specific instances that are completed in the past, then you'll use present simple.
Yes, okay, or present perfect.
We've talked multiple times and might need to talk again tomorrow, right?
Different meaning, right?
Exactly, right? this is an action that happened in the past, but might happen again.
It might be a repeated action.
Then you'll use present perfect.
Or the present perfect continuous.
How would this look Aubrey?
You might say, we've been talking for weeks.
And then we're using that we have been verb ing to emphasize like, okay, we've been talking.
Yeah, that wouldn't matter.
That would place a lot of meaning in those words in that grammar choice.
Exactly, so sometimes it doesn't matter if it doesn't matter to the story.
We think about often we'll talk about TMI.
Are you providing too many details?
Are you worried about the verb tense when it doesn't matter to the story?
Then you can choose any of these, right?
It doesn't matter. But if it does matter, it's vital that you know which of these tenses to use and why, what it implies about what happened.
So we have to know when the grammar actually matters.
Yeah, we're Let's get into the role -play in just a minute here.
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OK, Aubrey, let's get into a role play so we can see this all presented to our listeners very clearly.
So here we go. So hey, I've been talking to her about the project.
Oh wait, when did you talk to her?
Oh, I talked to her Wednesday and then again today.
We've emailed back and forth about it and we're meeting to finalize the details today at 4.
Okay, this is really good.
So the first thing Lindsay said, she could have used any of these, she could have said, I talked to her about the project, I have talked to her about the project, or I've been talking to her about the project because it doesn't matter at that time.
Like, for all you know, I don't care when you talk to her.
But then, for some reason, I need to know why.
Because maybe I talked to her about the project and I need to know if we talked to her recently, then you did, right.
So I ask, when did you talk to her?
This is past simple, I'm asking for specifics and I need you to use the correct verb tense to be clear.
Yeah, I think about past simple as really zooming in here.
We're zooming in to the exact point, the exact moment with a camera lens or something, right.
Wait, when did you talk to her?
Now we're getting details, we're getting specifics here, right?
Exactly. So then you say I talked to her Wednesday and this has to be pass simple because you are talking about a finished action in the past that happened at a specific time.
Of course you have to mirror the tense because you're asking me a specific question, right?
You're asking for a day and so I have to give you that exact day and I have to use the simple pass there.
Well, it's interesting.
It would do like let's imagine that you have talked to her every day for two months about this then what you said would be different you'd say I've been talking to her about this every day but the fact that you only talked to her once on Wednesday you're going to use past simple I love it and then I said we've emailed back and forth about it and we're meeting to finalize today okay so we've emailed back and forth yeah so using present perfect here we have emailed is letting me know it has happened many times and we're probably going to need to continue emailing about it.
That's when we use Present Perfect.
An action in the past that continues to now and is probably going to keep continuing.
Yes, I love it. This was a great question, but we only had time to really scratch the surface.
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We go through this stuff in B1, B2, C1.
We build your Fluency foundation for grammar too, right?
Absolutely. And if you missed it, scroll up because we just did a two -part series on past progressive grammar. So you can go up and see 2374 past progressive grammar for English interruptions.
We really dove into when we use the past progressive and you don't want to miss that series.
I love it. Aubrey, where should we leave our listeners today?
We had a great question from our student.
Where should we leave our listeners?
Yeah, past tense is especially confusing in English because sometimes you can choose any of them, any of these verb tenses.
It makes it difficult to know exactly why native speakers are using a specific past tense.
I totally get why Helle, Helmut, was confused seeing these does the flexibility here.
So today's tips will help you know which past tense to use in English.
Yeah, I think the key is just knowing, right.
Looking out for it, thinking about it.
So when we go to deliver a phrase or a sentence in the past tense, we're thinking does it matter what grammar I'm using here or does it not, right?
And pay attention when people are coming back to you with a specific question, what tense are they using.
Right? Right, does it matter for the story, if not, don't worry about it.
If it does, if it really matters when you talked and why or when you ate that and why or how many times, then it does matter.
I love it, so good, good stuff.
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All right. Yes. Awesome.
Thanks Lindsay. It was always fun getting into grammar with you.
I love it. It always is.
It always is. We'll see you next time Aubrey.
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