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One key phrase to emphasize and intensify in English.
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Hey, Lindsay, how's it going?
It's going really well, Michelle.
How are you?
I want to apologize for the condition of my voice.
Getting over a little bit of a sore throat here, guys.
But I am super happy to be here.
And I apologize for the way I sound.
But you know, it happens to the best of us, Michelle.
I mean, both of us have been sick on this show before.
Yeah.
Right.
And we show up for our listeners.
You know, we show up and we try to give you guys the best of ourselves here.
So that's all right, Michelle.
Let's see how we can do today.
We'll do our best.
That's right.
That's right.
But I have a question for you.
All right.
I'm ready.
Do you have a lot of free time to go to the gym?
Oh, I barely have time to do yoga on YouTube, let alone actually go to the gym.
Oh, really?
Yeah, that's kind of me too.
I feel like that's so true this week.
I'm like swimming and things to do.
It's crazy.
But I'm so excited because my landlady is having a birthday today and we're going to surprise her with a cupcake because she's like 80 years old and she's so sweet and it's going to be great.
Oh, that's so nice.
That's cute.
Are you making the cupcake or buying it?
No, no, we're going to buy it.
But I don't think she knows that we know it's her birthday.
So that'll be fun.
Well, that's nice.
It sounds like you have a good relationship with her.
I know that sometimes that doesn't always happen.
No, that doesn't always happen.
No, that's true.
Cool.
Lindsay, what do we want to remind our listeners of today?
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All right.
Awesome.
So...
Today we have a listener question about this very short phrase that we used.
What was the phrase?
The phrase is let alone.
Let alone.
Yeah.
I don't know if our listeners picked up on that, but you actually used that in the beginning when you were talking about going to the gym, right?
What did you say?
Okay.
So one more time.
I said, oh, I barely have time to do yoga on YouTube, let alone actually go to the gym.
Right.
That's funny.
Yeah.
So, I mean, all right, we're going to get into it.
I mean, this is a great phrase.
I mean, did that seem natural to you, Lindsay?
It did.
It seemed really natural.
I think this is a great one.
This is one of those top 20 most natural episodes.
You know what I mean?
That the very native language here that you guys are getting.
I have a feeling this is a phrase that's never taught in English classes around the world.
It's probably not taught is my guess.
So this is very natural.
Yeah, it is very natural.
Yeah.
I think it can be used in many ways to talk about things like you don't have.
You can't do things like that while being really specific.
So this phrase, I think the key is that it's all about being specific.
Okay, tell us more.
What do you mean by that?
Well, let's read the listener question and then we'll get into it and I'll explain.
So stay tuned.
Could you read the question?
All right, here's the question.
Such a perfect episode.
Thank you, guys.
I guess this student is talking about a previous episode.
By the way, recently I used to hear one phrase pretty much... which is let alone.
And I could think of what that means, but I'm not sure.
Besides, I'm getting a vibe like it's important and great to know.
So I would really love it.
And I appreciate it if you guys could explain it more.
Huge thanks and love from Yemen.
And this is from Shrook.
Shrook.
Thank you, Shrook.
Yeah, this is I really like this one.
This is a really good question.
Yeah.
And, you know, we said it's very natural.
So do you use this, Lindsay?
Yeah, I don't know.
Like, I don't remember using it recently, but it's so natural.
And it's a really good way to emphasize extremes.
Kind of like oh, I can't.
You know, I can hardly have enough time to make my lunch, let alone make a gourmet meal right.
Yeah.
When you're trying to emphasize especially that there's not enough time for something or that something is scarce.
I think
Right, right, right.
Exactly.
I think it sounds very smart.
I like it.
I would actually like to use it more now that our listener has brought it up, because I think it sounds very cool.
It sounds cool.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So what does the phrase mean?
So yeah, Lindsay, I like what you said.
Definitely like the extremes.
And I think, you know what, another way to understand it is thinking of basically...
It's like kind of if you're saying, and especially not, or specifically not, right?
Yeah, exactly.
So, for example, this one in the beginning you said I barely have time to do yoga on YouTube, let alone actually go to the gym.
So what did you mean by that, Lindsay?
Well basically, I mean, I don't have time to do yoga videos on YouTube and I definitely don't have time for the gym.
If I can't make time for yoga YouTube videos, I definitely can't go to the gym.
Right, right.
So what do you think about the second part of that sentence?
It's more like intense, don't you think?
It's more emphatic.
Like you're really trying to make a point.
So we can't, you know, we have to use intonation here, right?
We have to let alone, you know, go to the gym, right?
We have to really use our voices and use variety.
Right, right, right.
Do you think it's usually used more with positive or negative statements?
I would say usually more negative statements when something is missing, something is scarce.
Yeah, because I was thinking like you wouldn't say like oh, I love puppies, let alone I love beagles.
No, it doesn't make any sense.
No, no, no.
Definitely not.
No, yeah, you're right.
So I think it's more about when you can't do something, you can't accomplish something, something is not accessible.
Right, right, right.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
Good point, Lindsay.
So should we do some examples?
Yeah, let's do it.
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Okay, so, oh, I would love to get a puppy.
So are you going to?
Are you kidding?
I can't handle the responsibility of a dog right now, let alone a little puppy who needs even more attention and to be housebroken.
Oh, yeah.
That's true.
Puppies are a big, big responsibility.
Right, right, right.
I want to get a one-year-old dog or something.
Oh, man.
I know we both really wish we had dogs, right?
But we don't want to have the responsibility.
Oh, like I already have my dog's names picked out.
Can you tell us or is it a secret?
Well, yeah.
No, the dog that I want, his name will be Kiefer.
Kiefer because we went to the, I know it's a weird name, like not Kiefer Sutherland.
That's what I was thinking.
Kiefer Sutherland.
I don't know.
Kiefer.
We met this dog at the dog shelter and he was Kiefer and he was so energetic and so sweet and he had just the right energy that we like in a dog.
So now we always say Like we're going to get Kiefer.
Oh, that's so cute.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So in this example, like you said, I can't handle the responsibility of a dog right now, let alone a little puppy.
Yeah.
Yes, exactly.
So this is a really good way to emphasize that you really can't, you definitely can't get a puppy.
You can't get a dog and you definitely can't get a puppy.
Right, right, right.
Definitely.
Let's do another example.
So, all right.
Lindsay, I really want to start eating healthier foods.
Well, can you start cooking with more veggies?
Well, I mean, I'm not really a good cook, Lindsay.
I can barely make macaroni and cheese, let alone healthy vegetables.
Oh, come on, Michelle.
Don't sell yourself short.
I feel like you could do better than that.
Getting better, getting better.
So yeah, as you can see, you know, here, I can't make macaroni and cheese.
So I definitely can't make healthy vegetables.
So I'm being intense.
I'm being extreme.
I'm talking about Definitely not having something or being able to do something.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
That's a good example.
So, you know, there are a couple of other ways.
We're just going to go over a couple more that you could say that are going to kind of have a similar meaning.
OK, Lindsay.
Mm hmm.
Yeah, I like this because actually I hadn't thought about these other words as meaning the same thing.
But this is good.
Like this one, not to mention.
Not to mention.
Not to mention.
So what is this, Lindsay?
So it's very similar.
Almost the same, right?
Yeah, add a little bit more just, you know emphasizing, but maybe it's in a little bit more of a positive way.
Sometimes that's what i was thinking, that maybe it could be a more positive one.
I think of this when I talk about like, when you hear about people's like, the things they've done.
When someone is like a mother bragging about her kid, you know what I mean?
Right, right, right.
Oh, he's done this and this and this.
And not to mention that time he won the blue ribbon in the gymnastics competition, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly, exactly.
Yeah.
So like an example could be like, oh, I could use a good night's sleep, not to mention a spa day.
I think this is funny, this phrase, because you are mentioning it, right?
I know.
Why am I saying not to mention and then specifically mentioning it?
It's weird.
Yeah.
No, it's funny.
It's ironic, right?
It is.
It's kind of sarcastic, ironic.
Yeah.
Here's another example.
I can't seem to figure out how to solve this problem, not to mention I couldn't solve the last one either.
Okay.
Or a more positive sounding one.
Oh, he's such a wonderful guy, not to mention he's a great singer.
Awesome.
Yep.
So yeah, so this is a little more right.
So I agree.
So I would tend to use the let alone example more with I can't get to the gym, right?
It's kind of scarce.
It's got a sense of like scarcity sort of, whereas this one is more about like good things bragging, kind of saying positive things about someone.
Right, right, right.
Exactly.
And then the next one we have is Nevermind, which we actually just did an episode.
Well, we have done episodes about this.
I think we just did one.
I'm not sure what the number was.
Oh, we did?
Oh, okay.
Didn't we?
I'm not sure.
I think a while ago we did, but we... Nevermind.
Hmm.
Let me check, but we'll keep going and I'll check as we, as we, as we talk.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
So basically, but nevermind.
This is to me like a little bit closer to the first one.
I mean, I think it's mostly used in a negative way.
So for, but you know, I don't know.
What do you think, Lindsay?
Yeah.
So the scarcity.
Right.
So the power went out.
Never mind all my groceries spilled in the fridge.
I would say I would say I would just add I would say the power went out.
Never mind the fact that all my groceries spoiled in the fridge.
I would add that piece.
But maybe maybe colloquially you would say, never mind all my groceries spilled in the fridge.
Is that is that what you would say, Michelle?
Um, yeah, I might.
I might.
But I like your example.
Yeah, that's the way I say it.
I mean, I'm not sure what the rule is.
We don't have the rule in front of us, guys.
But we're giving you the real native English here.
Michelle, you tend to say it, you know.
You just say, for example, the power went out, never mind, all my groceries spilled in the fridge.
I would say the power went out, never mind the fact that all my groceries spilled in the fridge, the fridge.
Ah, interesting.
All right.
Yeah.
You know what?
I like that.
I'm going to go with you on that one.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, this is, you know, we both say it differently and that's okay.
This is spoken English, right?
This isn't necessarily written English.
Right, exactly.
So you could also say like maybe you know we'll agree on this one also with the, never mind the fact that she's not qualified for the position, never mind the fact that she didn't seem very interested in the job.
I like that, Lindsay.
I like the fact that.
Yeah, that balances out the sentence better in my mind.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I think what these phrases have in common is that they make the other half of the sentence more intense or specific in some way.
Like you talked about scarcity or intensity being more specific, things like that.
Right, Lindsay?
Yeah, I like that.
I like this.
This is one of those tools that you guys want in your toolbox to be able to pull out and kind of make that connection, emphasize what you're saying, make your language interesting, make your point right.
Make a point about something.
Right, right, right.
So let's try it out in a role play, Lindsay, shall we?
Yeah, for sure.
I looked for never mind.
I came up with episode 820, what to do when a native speaker doesn't want to repeat.
And I think the word never mind does come up in this episode, guys.
So if you want to go deeper into that never mind word, go to 820.
Type that in the search bar if you're using the app, or go to allersenglishcom forward, slash episodes and type 820 in the search bar.
Okay.
Awesome.
All right.
So in this role play, we are talking about job candidates we just interviewed.
Oh, okay.
So what do you think of Paula?
Eh, she was all right.
You?
I don't think she was right for the position.
She didn't seem to care about the company, let alone show any enthusiasm for the tasks she would have.
That's true.
How about Miranda?
I liked her.
She was friendly, not to mention she had all of the qualifications.
I agree.
I just want to find someone.
I'm looking forward to a lighter load.
Never mind someone who isn't jaded by the industry.
Oh, interesting.
Interesting.
Okay.
All right.
Let's go through it.
Let's go through it.
All right.
So let's see.
The first one is not to mention.
No, no, no, no.
The first one is let alone.
Okay.
She didn't seem to care about the company, let alone show any enthusiasm for the tasks she would have.
Right.
So like negative things, getting more intense, getting more specific.
Right.
Yeah.
She didn't do this and she definitely didn't do this.
Right.
She didn't do A and she definitely didn't do B.
Right, right, right.
And what was the next one, Lindsay?
Okay, so she was friendly, not to mention she had all the qualifications.
Nice.
Right, so those are positive things.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
So again, it comes up.
That's interesting.
Comes up in a positive with a positive sentence.
And then the last one, let's see.
I agree.
Oh, I just want to find someone.
I'm looking forward to a lighter load.
Never mind someone who isn't jaded by the industry.
Oh, so would you say never mind in this way?
Are we?
I don't know.
For me, I wouldn't put never mind there as much.
But but but maybe you would like we're different, you know, two different native speakers.
So now you're making me think what I do.
And it's like one of those things where then do you ever have it where you like, say a word over and over, and then you're like yeah, second.
Yeah, now I'm having one of these moments, but it still sounds natural to me.
But yeah, it could be for sure.
I mean, guys, we've given you plenty of examples.
So go back into the episode, rewind today's episode and look at the other examples with Nevermind.
There are plenty here.
Yeah, for sure.
So what's the takeaway for today, Lindsay?
These are such good phrases, guys, for narrowing down your point, okay?
So you want to show the person what is important and it's about showing your perspective, right?
And, you know, to connect, we show our perspective on things.
It's not just the logical facts that you couldn't get to the gym and you couldn't watch the YouTube video.
No, it's that you're kind of feeling a little desperate because you can't get to the gym and you can't watch the YouTube video right.
That says something about who you are and you want to use that to connect with people.
Right.
I love it.
Yeah, that's good.
Well said, Lindsay.
Yeah.
So this was a great question from our listener.
And we definitely suggest that you try and throw this into your conversations and see how it goes.
Definitely.
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All right.
Cool.
All right.
Well, this has been fun, Lindsay.
Sorry again for my voice and we'll see you guys soon.
Okay.
Take care, Michelle.
Bye.
Okay.
Bye.
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