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Welcome to the Giant Bombcast, Episode 893.
I am your host, Jan Ochoa.
Joining me, as always, today's co -captain of the ship, and the bad boy of games media, Mike Minotti.
Oh, yay, I'm the co -captain again.
I forgot about that.
I like it when Jeff's not here.
that's right uh mr jeff grubb is out on assignment and that assignment is i guess going to la way too early uh but that's okay folks we always have another jeff in our pocket and he's in our front pocket right next to our hearts ladies and gents because he has no heart so he's just trying to feel what it's like jeff bacalar these are all facts um these are all facts i regrettably do Do not have a can that I can also open the second we begin recording.
I'm glad you can provide that interesting Foley work.
Mr. Reichert. I'll let you introduce him, though.
He's the master of bananas and trampolines.
That's right. He's bringing his own trampoline and kiddie pool to SGF campus.
no one told us we can't dan reicher i love trampolines so much and when i was a kid i was at my friend andy majeski's house and we did the thing where we accidentally double bounced and uh i went flying and this is back in the 90s where we didn't have all these weak kids protectors on the springs and so it's just bare springs and my leg goes through and it's the The metal spring sliced my calf from, like, ankle to knee.
I'm bleeding profusely.
I go in the house, and I'm like, I need to be bandaged up.
And Andy's older brother's like, oh, you know what you need to do?
You need to put lemon juice on it.
And so we grabbed lemon juice and poured it on there, and that was a prank.
It hurt a lot worse.
Well, you know, there's a lot of people out there who go and talk about you with this like, oh, he's the luckiest guy alive.
oh everything works out in his favor you're just friend you're just not listening you're you're you're doing what we call selective hearing well because you're not allowing yourself to hear the dozens of times that this guy has become within a hair's worth of death okay i'm gonna die from lemon juice you could have cut an artery who knows yeah i don't know it was very bloody it So I'm just saying everyone was like, I wish I could have the Dan look.
Well, you're going to have a couple like piece of hardware installed in your body as a result.
No, it's a good trade off.
It's fine. I got distracted by the trampoline thing.
I do want to point out that Mike did say cow captain earlier.
As a cow captain. He said he's a cow captain.
Yes. What does that mean?
If you check the tape.
No, he was trying to say co -captain, but he said it weird. And he said he was the cow captain.
Well, he could be the cow captain, you know?
That's cool. No, I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
I'm just saying. Well, okay.
Arby's get on the line because then we can deem Mike Minotti the cow captain because of all the beef.
There we go. As a son of a cow captain I can confirm.
What do you guys think a cow captain is?
It's like a sheep herder but for cows?
Yeah, but you look like a milkman though so you're an all white.
Yeah, you have to camouflage yourself as a cow so they'll accept you.
I like so many milk products but milk itself is still kind of weird. i mean the cow captain not milk captain yeah you don't have to like drink milk constantly to prove your your your seniority yeah what do you consider milk products if not milk don't no just shut up i've had it with you shut up yeah i've had it with you this week actually i've never heard of invincible i don't have kids like no i'm sorry you're the one who's weird about the invincible thing i just said i hadn't heard of a show i hadn't heard of and you were the one who made of the thing and then i asked my wife i haven't heard
of it either and mike hasn't heard of it too i'm sorry that's that's a really that's what we call uh uh an almost invisible uh sample size number one and number two mike's upset because you said something to the effect of like how would i know about what invincible is i don't have children is right i just i googled it looked looked like a kids show i don't know right apparently i'm wrong i'm wrong i'll own that but at a glimpse it looked like a kid superhero you're not wrong for assuming it's a kid's thing you're just very frustrating no i i'm aware of this and that's where mike's that's where mike's
coming from i understand that's why i allow i don't mind dan being dan it's because dan will own up to it thank you jan thank you he's owning up to no james wrong he's not owning up to it being I don't know they added that guy I just look I know I've never even watched invincible and I have been exposed to it through social like osmosis maybe a thousand times but you follow different things and people than I do this is not a it's what a fun minute would be to not hear of a show before one of those people would have done the meme like the think thing or the look at the like look what they need
to match our power i have no idea what the fuck you're talking mike i have no doubt i have no doubt and maybe this will provide some sort of uh relief to you but i have no doubt in my mind that at some point dan was exposed to invincible memes or media in some way probably just didn't look like i forget a lot of stuff we know this we know this okay that's all he knew what the walking dead was and that's a very famous comic book uh so you know he i'm sure he got he rubbed up against it do you uh one one's question do you know what the boys is yes uh bonk has watched that and said it's good and i
trust her depending on stuff and so it is on the very long list of stuff but if i ever have time to watch a show i would like to watch interesting because like the boys and invincibles on the same streaming service and kind of not the same show they they they gravitate towards the same sort of thing yeah oh okay yeah which is interesting uh going back to the cow captain thing i have not been able to get um ham time out of my head out of your cow captaincy yeah like i was i went to a ham store over the weekend these are pigs these are pigs no i know i know they're just they're animals they're friends
right they're like when noah brought them onto the ark it was like cows all right pigs next right so right he's like deli gang where are you at yeah um i i ran into to one member of the deli gang and it was almost a thing parentheses positive but i was at the ham store and i was just laughing to myself and just whispering ham time hey is the ham store just a deli uh well it's like a honey bake it's a honey bake ham so like oh it's specifically ham um dan yes sorry were you done because i i didn't want to interrupt no i just thought it was hilarious that there was a bunch of hams and then like
that i like popping myself in public places and people thinking i'm slightly insane by just like whispering something like damn time out loud yes okay nice yeah um i uh i want mike to give me some credit here um okay frustrated with me about pancakes and stuff i want you to know mike you don't even hear most of the things I'm not posting about most things.
This morning, this morning, literally 40 minutes ago, I was going to eat some grapes.
And I noticed that some of the grapes were very bright and green and bulbous and good to go.
And then some of them were kind of withered and yellowy.
And I was like, oh, some of these are good and some of these are bad.
And I realized the ones that went bad were the ones that were individual, not on the thing.
Off the vine? Well, that's the thing.
The vine? That's the thing.
And in my head, in my head, the dialogue that happened was like, oh, the ones that aren't connected to the bundle are bad.
And then I thought, oh, that's probably fine.
That's probably what grapevine is, because I've heard the word grapevine.
I never considered that's what that the bundle thing was.
And in my head, I solved that myself and didn't even tell anyone about it until now.
So, see, Mike, I am saving you from this happens many times a day and you hear about maybe one a week.
You're going to have to deal with it.
We're co -owners. i want to sell my my shares yeah listener listener i have a couple ideas for content don't forget to like comment and subscribe folks please i just feel like we need to start like it would be to me it'd be a real chuckle be a real real knee slapper if we went ahead and just sort of like in in nothing more than one sentence kind of just like you know mark these milestones we're like hey june 3rd dan discovers what a grapevine is like i heard the word i knew the word i heard i've heard heard it through the grapevine a million times i never thought about it being a shoot vine i i
just think that is a good question chat i'm gonna get to that right now but i do think it would be fun to have like a collective of 365 things that you learned in a year like a calendar like a page that would sell a terawake daily calendar that'd be sick like today dan on Hey, Dan, what's a raisin?
That's a shriveled -up grape.
There we go, folks.
Hey. Okay, I think if you just put a bunch of grapes out in the sun, they're going to turn into raisins.
Not wrong. Takes time.
That's fine. I'm totally cool with you saying that out loud.
That one's, like, not horribly upsetting.
That's fine. Thank you.
That's fine. I love it.
I guess grapes are kind of berry -related, but did you all know that blueberries have an obscene amount of pectin in them?
Yes. What's that? that uh like natural jelly so like i tried making like a blueberry juice and i just blended an obscene amount of blueberries that shit solidified it looked like one of those 2b thingies from uh a rainforest cafe oh sure i know those yes mike blueberries are they're they're wild huh i like them just like i'm new to the blueberry scene but so much character then yeah hey are honeydew and cantaloupes the same thing just in different fonts don't ask me um i'm not asking you i that was really directed to bacalar is it is a cantaloupe a melon i guess so right yeah so yeah so they're
probably just cousins i guess okay okay they're they're they taste i think in a i think in like a blind taste you'd probably think they're closer in taste than than uh maybe they they are but i i mean i love both of those i celebrate both of those fruits okay okay uh But someone had in the chat had said bring the deli gang onto the dump truck and I will never do that for their safety and my own.
Because when I ran into a member of the deli gang, shout out to Young Kev, he was like, yo, dog, you got to make good.
I'm like, what do I got to make good on?
Do I owe you money, Young Kev?
He was like, nah, you're in the gang, so you got to get yatted up.
And I'm like, I don't have time to get tattooed right now, Young Kev.
And he goes like, hey, mark your days, January.
You got to get yatted before you come back.
I'm like, all right.
Are you going to? Yeah, what do you need to get?
I need to get Deli Gang tattooed onto me.
Where, on your knuckles?
Well, Yung Kev has it on like his ribs.
In like gothic font or like what?
Like the tattoo font.
Yeah, I guess the gothic one.
Do Deli Gang and then have all of AJ Styles' kids' names underneath it.
There you go. Okay, cool.
Cool, cool, cool, cool.
What's your favorite deli meat?
Gun to your head. Oh, God, I'm so basic.
I just... No. I was asking, Jan, but that's fine.
I thought it was a question for the group.
Nah, I mean, I kind of get, like, you're a roast beef guy, right?
Well, at Arby's only.
Sorry, I'm answering Jan's question.
It's Jan's question.
This is his turn. Yeah, Jan, please.
You know, I like prosciutto.
Prosciutto counts, right?
Oh, yeah, it does. Hell yeah.
Yeah. Jan, are you, are you like getting Italian on me?
Hell yeah. Let's go.
Nadi, I, I've been gained.
Uh, I've been given a gifted Italian membership by one Jesse Vitale.
So. Okay. And I will not revoke that.
I, I approve that. It's so, it's so messed up how anti -Italian food Jeff Grubb is.
It's wild. It's weird. Is he really?
Yes. He hates pasta.
He's like pasta. He's like pasta.
He lives in Ohio. Which is the best food ever.
There's so much Italian here.
Yeah, but come on, Mike.
Let's be honest. No. Whoa.
No. Okay, North East Ohio, I'm sure.
Backload only counts East Coast stuff.
Like, this is an East Coast thing where all the flyover states in the Midwest, the Midwest has good food and shit.
I don't doubt food is edible in the flyover states.
I'm perfectly confident that it is edible and you can actually have calories there.
What did happen? Okay.
No, I guess I'm trying to say is that young Elmo is more Italian than Minotti is what I'm trying to say.
Is that what you're saying?
Well, no, I learned something about Vitale over the weekend that I'm not...
I just learned that he's Italian.
Okay. So is Elmo. So is Elmo, actually.
Yeah, Elmo. I mean, it makes sense.
Sesame Street, like is Sesame Street canonically in New York?
It seems... It does feel Brooklyn -y.
Yeah, yeah. There's Italians there.
what is what is the ethnicity of uh burton ernie lovers happy pride month everyone yeah happy pride yeah they're in philly brotherly love and all that oh winky face do you think that like like kansas city barbecue is just like fine like no it's great i've had i've had tons of barbecue in texas and all that stuff it's tremendous okay okay all right so you agree that there's food outside of the east coast that is good yeah it's a fun bit i like to do and i think most people are in on the bit okay without a doubt it's better here like empirically better certain foods yes absolutely the stuff that you
care about bagels or pizza or anything of course yeah however you just said bagels whatever that's fine too i don't know my brain yeah my brain just farted out and was just like i think he meant bagels um yeah i mean i'm not gonna eat a burrito anywhere else other than maybe texas that's fair yeah unless it's a chain that's easy maybe perhaps i don't know uh anyway video games oh arizona okay fine new mexico all right i'm wrong i'm wrong i get it i get it uh man i had a really good breakfast burrito new mexico and then um i had to pick up an obscene amount of food for the TV show and that's when I
was like still kind of new so I didn't know how the company card worked so I didn't leave a tip um but then it was it was like a small mom and pop joint but so we pretty much gave them their sales for the day so I thought it'd be fine and then I get the receipt afterwards and my boss at the time was like yo how come there's a hundred dollar tip here uh on the charge and i'm like oh they wrote their own tip in oh no oh no not cool are they even allowed to do that i guess they could just do things right yeah i mean anyway it wasn't my money so i don't care uh speaking about games uh jeff grubb isn't
here to talk about it but big eyes in the chat he's got some news in the chat he's getting getting the switch cancel like flying in the chat is he flying in the air and he's talking about switch getting canceled yeah apparently like his charge isn't going through and doesn't know why from walmart can't you call it and get that fixed my target one's gonna do that too because i use my corporate card and i heard walmart you can change the payment processor on the target order yeah uh i heard i did hear a lot of people uh complaining about walmart um doing something last night where a lot of people
were like offered 24 hours to to repurchase their switch yeah that's one who did have it canceled uh but mine's looking great i think mine's fine mine's still arriving by june 5th so that's all right i'm doing okay that's fantastic fantastic oh yeah a text from jeff grubb saying good job on raisins thank you grubb jeff grubb where's my text huh what the fuck let me see what's mine still says estimated wednesday june 11th but i don't believe leave it at all so um all right anyway jeff grubb uh is hopping on over down to california which is a big hop just like the game he played and mike minotti
watched him there's an unfinished on the website now go watch that at the same time as this okay so don't click off of this click both juice whatever algo we gotta uh but in the meantime that game looked cute mike minotti Was it cute?
It was cute. Yeah. Check out that unfinished quick look.
I like 3D platformers a lot, and I am always happy to see more indies tackling the genre.
We've gotten some good indie 3D platformers, but we haven't had that, what I like to call shovel knight moment with them, where we get one of these that's like, oh, this is actually just as good as the games it's inspired by, right?
And it's like a tall order.
like i want a 3d platformer that's as good as mario 64 or you know like banjo kazooie or stuff like that um you know i'm not i don't know if this one is it but it has that promise it just looks like it's a ton of fun to play because it kind of has some odyssey vibes with just the set of moves you have you have like the dive uh you can even like grab onto walls you can do wall writing so it's just like a lot of things you can do so you kind of have that 3d platforming jazz that i like a lot where you can kind of just figure out your own ways to get to places you got some chameleon twist in there
too i played the demo this weekend and uh you use the tongue and you can you can grapple and swing and it's kind of a beefy demo the free demo it's uh you can get a lot of gameplay out of that but yeah mike i'm with you it's it is you know i wanted to love ukulele and stuff like that but we haven't quite gotten there like you said the the shovel dive moment's a great way to put it uh this this does seem like a really really good one of those yeah I was gonna bring up ukulele while you were talking about that Mike because I really wanted to enjoy ukulele more I wanted to enjoy Penny's Big Breakaway
more but nothing is quite time tapped into that feeling that that uh Spoon Heaven moment just yeah yeah stay tuned uh yeah I think that that's exactly right god it's so funny you said Chameleon Twist Dan I was that was like one of my favorite rental games.
that is the rental game.
Yeah. No one ever bought that game once.
No, some people rented it, that they made a sequel that we rented that too.
Yes. Oh, many games had four player, many games.
Yeah. I think the GBA is one of my favorite consoles or handhelds of all time because there were so many different 2d platform platformers that like would just go in for it.
Y 'all remember blender brothers?
No, no. God, maybe this is cause I'm a youth.
Um, I remember Snow Brothers.
Hell yeah, brother.
Yeah, Blender Brothers was one of those like, hey, let's just take an animal with big ears and make them hop and bop around.
Weird. Yeah, god. GBA, great.
I just want to. Okay.
I never bring down a console when we go to these trips, but I might just load up the analog with a bunch of GBA stuff.
That's a good system for that.
Yes, that's very good.
Let's hop on to the next game.
Mike Minotti you streamed quite a lot of this last night on your own Claire Obscure Expedition 33 Did a lot of that just the last few days uh basically kind of the last third of the game and I beat it last night uh the video game yes uh I finished Claire Obscure I wanted to make sure I did that kind of before SGF uh you know also is the game I wanted to keep playing anyways like Like on Sunday alone, I think I played so I streamed it for eight hours straight.
It's just a difficult game for me to drop once I'm into it because it's just a ton of fun.
And there is a lot of optional stuff you can do right before the end of the game, and I was having a good time doing it.
My biggest complaint with the game in general is some kind of weird pacing or balance stuff, I suppose.
Balance is the better way of putting it.
Like in Act 2, so there's three acts.
And Act 2, at one point, I went and did a side dungeon halfway through it.
And that was fun. It was kind of this challenging side dungeon.
But I got so powerful from doing that one side dungeon that the rest of Act 2 kind of became this breeze.
And then, like, I don't want to give spoilers, but, like, Act 3.
Don't, please. I won't.
I won't. But, like, Act 3, like, it opens up this way where you can do a lot of optional content.
You don't necessarily, like, you know it's optional.
But you can, like, oh, there's all these places I can go to now.
And I was having fun doing that.
but i kind of did so much of it that the final boss was practically a one shot for me and just like you know like that almost sounds cool like wow i one shot the boss well like all like the drama and everything's like i kind of wanted this to feel like a real fight uh and there's so much optional stuff that is much more challenging than that and i'm glad that's there but i i like having that post game optional extra challenging stuff i still feel like the final boss of a video game should be like in the top five of the hardest bosses in a game no yeah there's like there's like a big gulf between what i
was able to do this final boss and some of the like optional stuff i was coming across were the same hit that one shot the final boss was like a tickle to them yeah so like that just seems a little certain now you know all of that aside and my one tip is when you get to that part of the game where you can do a lot of optional stuff maybe just go beat the game and then you can do that stuff because i don't think it was super fun to be insanely overpowered for that maybe maybe for you you'll enjoy that yeah i'm on the other side of the fence with that mike because like i find myself spending way
too much time in jrpgs grinding up to to be overpowered that i kind of like that it was an easier on ramp for that rather than spending like too many hours exploring the optional stuff because i generally just won't revisit an rpg specifically after i i finish it um it kind of helped with the pacing that also god uh mike real quick how many hours did you clock in uh after you beat the game about 40 40 i was right about 40 hours which is so like no oh god no that's for one of these that's so nice that's yeah i will yeah we'll unpack my shit in a minute yeah but i i mean i'm i'm like ecstatic to
have one of these games that that was more like 40 hours i don't mind like i don't mind 80 100 hour long rpgs i get it i'm shocked that it's become the default in a lot of ways honestly my thought when you said 40 was like oh okay because i'd already been curious to check this game out and you saying 40 made me more like oh okay maybe i could find time at some point i bet if i bet if you mainlined it which i almost some ways recommend it's more like 30 so okay okay yeah yeah yeah so that yeah so that part Um, the story of this game is very good.
And that's not normally the thing that I will spend a lot of time praising.
I think that this story always remained interesting.
It has twists that feel earned.
Even though the stuff happening is often supernatural and weird, there's still a logic to it, and it kind of makes sense.
It doesn't over -explain itself.
It is primarily character and emotion driven.
driven it doesn't really go for a lot of cheap moments that i think can often happen with these kind of games especially today there's you know it's not like a lot of shock value kind of like let you to see that uh come right everything feels very earned everything feels very mature and adult like in a very kind of i don't know like i i just i i feel like i don't want to say oh this is a real story kind of a thing but you know we do see a lot of video games there where like the the story is kind of just, you know, go rescue this person or this person killed your friend, now go kill this person.
And that's sort of the end of it.
There's so much more going on here.
I have so many thoughts.
It's just being this game.
Mikey, we should do a spoiler cast. Jan, have you beaten it?
I mean, I'm act three.
So I'm almost. Oh, wow.
So I was going to specifically ask you because, yes, after SGF, I want to put, and once you finish the game, I want to put together a spoiler cast because I think there's so much to unpack and to talk about.
A lot of it is mechanics in the game itself.
And that stuff we talked about, it still is so good.
The way the battles work, how it does sort of depend on these dodges and parrying and kind of building up your party in this really smart way with the pictos and the arts and all this other stuff that you get.
So gosh, it's just one of these games that I think I'm going to be thinking about for an incredibly long time god the music yeah the music is so good and there's so much of it it's like every fight i feel like it's a new track somehow like how are they making so much music there's a ton of music oh so i i was i'm just stunned by uh what they were able to accomplish here accordions turns out accordions slept on instrument yeah some 12 monkey shit up here yeah well he's a savant um bacalar please unpack your shit i know everyone's thinking to themselves they're driving in their car they're commuting
to work they're like fucking bacalars playing expedition 33 like this is not a bacalar video game right that's what you're all thinking yeah i'm not driving but yes everything else yes you're never driving but oh certainly we we know right like this is not my shit right like what business do i have playing a one of these right like like pretty looking games and this is a very pretty looking game it's pretty as hell uh what i'm trying to think of like the last game that would even be tangentially associated in the same genre right like what i don't even know right uh paper mario yeah it kind of right
that is like with the turn -based sort of stuff uh and the pairing and timing and whatnot you know i don't claim to understand this game i don't claim to like really also understand what i'm doing in it where i've i'm kind of just like i'm kind of just doing it and i'm progressing and i'm playing and i'm doing stuff am i hyper focused on like all the pictos and all of the um lumina and the points and the flasks and all that stuff i'm just i'm trying to make sense of all that and it's slowly Slowly but surely happening.
I'm also like, a lot of that is overshadowed just by the sheer wonder that comes out of me.
When I see these creatures, these insane freaks that I'm meant to battle.
And I'm won over by the creativity and the design of these beasts that I just kind of don't care.
I'm just like, I'm fighting a wagon.
wagon find a wagon that's up on all four on on its two thing i'm just trying to like do that and i guess this wagon's got weak shoulders it's got weak shoulder points and i'm gonna shoot that you know i understand like obviously like the action points right like or whatever those are the ap things i understand like the basic sort of machinations of like yeah of like oh you you spend this you know i think the rock paper scissoring of like the ground ice and fire stuff is just not it's i'm just you know again as someone who is not hyper fluent in this kind of style of games it's not i haven't connected
all those dots yet i also have you know i've connected there's just like a lot of you know i understand like with the pictos and then there's like another level below those pictos of like and i understand everything as a level i get all that i i've played a video game before this isn't my first one but it is the first one in a while where i'm I'm like JRPG -ing it in a way that is just not my thing.
But I love it. It's the thing I want to play constantly.
I've just started to really scrape the surface of like the map and the overworld stuff.
I think that's really interesting.
I've never seen that before where like you kind of have this like intermediary layer where like you're not on the ground.
You're not in the map, but you're sort of like traversing land in the overworld thing.
I think that is really interesting I really dig that The story stuff for me Where I'm at At about 6 -7 hours now I find that interesting I like The table setting that has been done I think that's very unique It is something very different I'll say And I think that goes a long way But yeah I guess a part of me used to be like Oh fuck am I playing this game wrong And I would have harped on that for a while but I don't think that's possible in 33 here I think you just kind of have to do it especially if you're like me and you're like well I'm only going to really digest around 65 to 70 % of what I'm
being told here and I'm just going to kind of keep going I'm assuming I'm going to hit a wall at some point maybe where I've not specced out my team the right way or in an effective way and maybe I'll need to lower difficulty at some point but right now I'm loving what I'm doing there it is a pretty ass game it's pretty getting i think what's great is you know i i don't know if you will hit a wall because part of the reason why i became so overpowered is the game can be pretty generous with the amount of experience points you get and like there's multiple things you can be good at to help you
at least beat the game so maybe you're really good at kind of making a build with the pictos things like that maybe you're just very good at parrying and dodging i mean you've never had a good gamer i'm a good gamer man yeah for sure no one's pointing their finger at me being like oh look at this guy but yeah uh no i think you're right i think i'm like i think just by doing the thing and awarding points and just making sure that i'm spinning all those plates right i do think like you can get to a place where like you've ignored a major component like i was kind of ignoring the lumia stuff for a while
or lumina stuff where i was like oh i didn't realize these blue numbers need to be thrown into to the picto stuff right like that's a whole other a second or third layer below the surface where i was like you know a part of me is also like why do i need to fucking care about this but um you know it's it's i think i think for me like seeing the the net positive of all those uh under the hood machinations i you know i don't know if i've like really understood the gravity of those decisions and those point awardings and whatnot but i'll get there and i think i'm i'm learning a lot as i play it too
which has been uh uh definitely you know um satisfied you know satisfying to kind of see happen so yeah you mentioned like just the way the characters look and everything and you know this isn't typically my genre but i can't tell you how many times i've like walked through the living room and seen bianca playing it and just being like what's going on with that dude oh what's good is this like a weird little mini game what's good is this a platforming mini game is this like a weird little yeah there's like a ones where you're bouncing back and forth like look like a like you're on a raft and stuff
like this is a this This seems like a weird game in a way that I appreciate.
Yeah, it's so weird. Everything I hear about the combat and everything, it's like, okay, that is...
The times I've been able to get into RPGs have been Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi, that action -based stuff during the fights, and it's like, I've been intrigued every time I've walked through the living room.
So I think I'm gonna try it.
It's got a fucking style, man.
That is just style, dude.
It's got the juice.
Yeah, it's pretty swaggy.
It's dripping in swag goo.
um yeah i think this game further proves my personal feeling of i think i am i think i'm done with high schoolers in a jrpg i think i just want grown -ass adults and i know maybe that's part of why i wasn't immediately turned off too it's like these just seem like adults on a quest yeah and like you know there's the rumors of the persona 4 remake and i'm totally gonna play that persona 6 is going to come out and i'm totally going to play that but like i think i have been able to kind of like attach myself to these characters more maybe because they are adults and there's like one party member that's
like uh almost an adult um and uh in a different way than like i know metaphor the ages of everyone was like up and down but like dang with like these people i feel their pain and maybe it's also because i am 33 right now that i'm like i could die right now i mean i could i think that all the time but like specifically with this game um also my one gripe is that uh i just wish the main dude didn't look like robert pattinson oh gustav yeah he yeah he's got he's got that generic ass like flowy hair guy look going on like i wish i could do that hair but my head is the wrong shape for it yeah yeah
i wish i could do hair sorry brother you're preaching to the choir here friend um i think you know with the story uh you know obviously this game starts out a certain way and then about an hour later you're like okay we are off the reservation folks we are in you know bizarro world the the beach scene right i'm not gonna get further into it like is so intense and crazy and the fact that that like when you start playing everything is like way calmer i found a bit jarring like i don't understand why that front loaded scene obviously i i i absorbed the impact of what that was but that also made me
believe that like this whole whole thing was going to be like that where like we are constantly on the edge of death at any given moment and then things kind of get like real pretty and i'm like oh all right well this is a pretty ass game that's like so i don't know i found that to be uh a bit jarring but you know still like it of course there's a little bit of that a lot of games i think serve with that juxtaposition and you know like there are those silly elements in the game and i like that breaking it up yeah so there's this like everything is horrible and bad we're all gonna die now look
at this goober yeah let's laugh a little bit yeah play tennis with him yeah weird that stuff was weird i but hey i also wish this game ran better on a steam deck um if it did i think i would have completed it like weeks ago um all right you know mr bacalar i think i got another game that may be up your alley uh i've been checking out lush foil photography sim okay uh i'm not one for a lot of of these sims i'm sorry for our truck and train enthusiasts out there uh this is one of those games where you just walk it's like a pokemon snap if you took out all the pokemon and the rails so it's just a photography
game finally um you go to different locales you explore around for a bit and it's just it's real nice nice to zen out snap some pics you know you can get all the manual controls that you would want adjust your iso your expose uh depth of field your bokeh and all that jazz um you also get a little drone so if you are uh you want to get a specific angle and snap a specific pic that way uh you can go ahead and do that there's a small couple discoverable things to get to other places in the map but it's a really calm gentle game uh to just zone out in and just take some pics also like wild i don't
think this is hyperbole but i was gonna say i don't think i'll ever see those uh those shrine gates in japan um you don't think so well i probably would but because of tourism they're gonna be super packed so it's kind of nice to just experience it in a in an empty way where i can take my time i could take the photos there was was a game that came out a couple years ago uh it was made by like a dp um that was also a sim like this where you could simulate um it kind of like uh a plan out like a shoot where you could put in specific lights like i need an astro one by one and i'm gonna put it here
and then i'm gonna see where like the spread is and then you can kind of plan out where your camera shots would be I forget the name of the game if anyone remembers it uh please drop it in chat but like I wouldn't mind more games like this you know kind of it doesn't have to be full like steam maker type of things but just like oh I kind of want to recreate a shot or maybe plan out um a visit somewhere like I do enjoy the aspects of the modern assassin's creed games where you kind of can play tourist somewhere um and that is nice to do in lush foil photography sim um dan reichert yes you wrote
some things on a game called hell is us yeah i uh i went to montreal and played three hours of this game uh and it was long enough ago to where it was before we were independent so really stretching my memory here because i wrote my article for the last place and then my notes were gone so I'm gonna go off what I remember here is it the demo have you have you compared and contrast I haven't played the demo no okay you did you bacalar I did the demo is you uh you go to like the farm trying to find a family yeah and then you like get into a cave and you and you um you fight the people with holes
for faces there's a lot of guys with holes for faces yeah which is kind of sick no they look awesome and the sound design and everything is is just great the big gimmick here is it's like um there's not any hand holding and right as far as i could see in the options you couldn't even change it like you could change combat difficulty periwinder stuff like that but like no waypoints or maps no waypoints no quest log no arrows pointing you towards anything yeah no map at all and it's like well yeah go ahead i'm sorry i know you're the guy who played this and you're the big fancy game reviewer here
and i'm totally stepping I do go by Big Fancy Game Reviewer, yeah.
I'm stepping on your toes here a little bit.
Step on. I do believe there's, like, a PDA.
Stop talking about his toes.
Yeah. I know. That's gross.
There's a PDA, right, where, like, you can look at - You have, like, a data pad thing that - Right, which I found pretty helpful because that is the closest thing you're going to get to, like, do this next.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
So, it's basically, like, you know, like one of those, you know, red yarn, you know, chalk or push pen overboard things.
Corkboard. Yeah, corkboard things.
Yeah, where it's, like, you go and you're just trying to - you're basically going into to your home country and trying to find out what happened to your hometown and your your family and things like that and just through talking to people there's like tons of npcs you can talk to and it's really smart the way they set it up or it's like on the left side are questions you can ask about like quest specific stuff about your family about the hometown stuff like that but then pretty much everyone you talk to on the right also has just like general lore stuff about the world the civil war that's going
on these different factions and stuff so um it's it's very very much behooves you to talk to everyone you meet.
You'll find like a little girl in an attic that's hiding.
You'll find a priest that's about to be hung.
And so you ask them all these questions and it does kind of flesh out what's going on in this world and influence where you want to go next.
And there's just a bunch of cool mysteries and stuff.
There's just like in the middle of this field, there's this big amorphous blob event horizon looking thing.
It's like, that looks fucked up.
Don't know what that is.
And like just through talking to people and getting some context clues and stuff, you'll kind of learn some things.
and I was just really intrigued by the confidence in like, no, this is how you're going to play this game.
We're not going to hold your hand.
I like that. That does seem to be the big hook of this, and I haven't played anything that goes that hard into it.
It wasn't what I was expecting.
Dan, is this more like a Souls or like an action adventure type of game?
Like a devil may cry.
Yeah, it's definitely not Souls, right?
I would say it's definitely not on the difficulty level of of a uh of a souls game i wouldn't say there's you know parries and things like that um but it's also not super flashy stylish action stuff like a devil may cry or bayonetta or anything it's kind of its own thing it is it's more deliberate than a in terms of deliberateness it's between i guess the two things we're talking about here a devil may cry or a from game you know um but yeah tonally just yeah the music the design the enemy design um it's just this like oppressive weirdness around you at all times and like you just kind of feel
intentionally lost when you play this game and i thought that was really cool like all the hints and stuff you'll get some like diegetic stuff where it's like wind chimes and trees that you're following or markings that you're looking for on on the environment and uh you know there are there are games where you could do this type of stuff where it's like you know red dead redemption 2 you could turn off the hud and stuff and just go off of like what npcs are parking out and road signs and things but like Like, this one is like, no, this is what the game is.
So that's awesome. It just feels like just different enough, right?
Like, it's just strange enough, just different enough.
I want, you know, obviously it's tough to really understand what the no map and waypoint, what the real kind of implications of that are.
But, and I can't tell if like the open worldness of it all.
I had like it does feel open world in a way but but maybe that's more of an illusion than actual like what you're meant to do it could be kind of more that open zone type thing where it's like you go wherever you want to but on the map that I saw wasn't that yeah right I was like oh man I saw a map but what am I talking about it's you will get handwritten stuff so you will get like oh the character gave me this piece of paper with an arrow drawn on it you know it's like like yeah because i did remember seeing a map um you have a compass right like that's kind of like because people do say like
it's like a physical compass that yeah yeah yeah um i think it's like it's got a little bit of like annihilation in there too a little bit i asked them about that while i was there i was like i'm getting like a real like annihilation vibe out of this and they're like that was one of our main uh yeah there's some shimmer shit um and what is it it's like late 90s it takes place in right is that like alternate history it's very alternate it it takes place in like a fictional country that's had this like civil war going on but uh yeah it's weird you know I just think it's rad I think it's just different
enough like to me I didn't really know what to expect I was going in on vibes only right because that's why I thought it was a very much a me game because it was like I thought it was more survival horror kind of thing but it's it's kind of not it's not survival I wouldn't call it that and um yeah I I'm into it I was actually pleasantly surprised that it was not the thing I assumed it was but the thing it actually is i find kind of intriguing and uh definitely worth digging more into for sure yeah i went in pretty blind having just seen like the trailers and stuff and then like once you know they
gave us a presentation before about all this like you know no hand holding i was intrigued and then as i played it i was like oh okay this has suddenly become something i'm looking forward to this year uh mike manati if this will entice you the whole enemies or the enemies with the holes in their their heads they look like nobodies from kingdom arts wow yeah yeah more of an unknown kind of guy actually or unversed even but that's neat okay okay uh yeah thanks dan this is on my radar now this looks sick uh all right gang a little bit light on the games because of things going on dan can you say
oh you can't say this i checked today yes so i'm gonna be pretty light on new stuff for a while because I got Death Stranding 2 and I played like five hours of it last night and I'm gonna keep going that's a big game I already know that so I just got to get through that 30 hours I played in Japan then I can get to the new stuff and then I can talk about it on June 23rd uh so yeah between SGF Switch and Death Stranding 2 that's probably gonna take up most of my time this month uh all right well a game we can't talk about we played on the second Second half of UPF against Kinda Funny is Elden Ring,
Night Rain. Mike Minotti, you and I teamed up with Jeff Grubb to take on the fools of the world in Elden Ring.
The clowns. The clowns over there at Kinda Funny.
They felt so threatened by us, Mike, that they needed to bring on a ringer to take on us.
That's true. That being said, the score is now 1 -1, Monaco 2 to us, Elden Ring to them.
We'll settle this in maybe a dodgeball game Settle it in Smash Then I can win Mike, I wound up digging this game a lot I actually played more over the weekend Oh I played a bit more too I played with my brothers for a bit There's three of us Menatis So that works out pretty well I had fun playing with you and Jeff I have fun playing with them There's still things about this game I find Kind of weird Yeah Yeah.
And I also have no desire to play it with Rando's.
I know there's a patch that came out, I think maybe even yesterday, that tried to make the solo experience a bit better, a bit more balanced.
There's still nothing for duos, but there's things here I like.
I don't know, Jan. Like, who were you playing with?
Rando's this weekend or other friends?
Yep. I was playing with complete Rando's because all of my friends that did pick up Night Rain are on the PS5 and because of no crossplay.
No crossplay. This is a game that really needs cross -playing.
That's rough. Mike, we should talk about how this isn't quite an Elden Ring.
It's kind of like a Fortnite -ification of it.
It's so many things.
It's Fortnite. Monster Hunter -ish.
Yeah. It's kind of a roguelike because it is run -based, and you're kind of getting random stuff, but you're also playing as these kind of character classes.
That's part of the thing is that it's so many things kind of jammed into one, and some of it just doesn't necessarily jive with the ways i want to be playing maybe as well as like like the element ring stuff with the circle and you're always moving it's kind of a go go go go go thing yeah it's usually a souls like it's kind of like methodical before you fight a boss really take your time and think about your build and things like that and oh the inventory is kind of cumbersome but it's okay you can take your time right now when you're in a fight maybe Maybe it's hectic in here.
It's just like we got to run.
The circle is coming, which is just a wild thing to say in a souls like game.
As far as I remember, we talked about this while we were playing it.
But when I just jumped in for the first time after the tutorial boss, I don't really explain the circle mechanic, I believe.
And I was just caught in the circle and I kept dying.
I was so confused. used um also when you match into uh i guess a run with randos or with whoever um you keep getting rezzed until you die all three of you die at like the uh boss at the end of the night or the end of the day um and so until you get to the where the circle is closing you can go on throughout the map to take on a bunch of mini bosses go out for loot and stuff um i think we settled into a pretty good rhythm when we were playing it mike did you um how is how is playing with your brothers it is funny because like you kind of like you kind of learn the ideal way to go about things and people
are already talking about that like one thing i've i've sort of heard is like on night one really uh focus on getting extra charges for your flask uh do things you know in in that kind of thing and hey they're go to the mines because that's where you can get the somber smithing stones and smithing stones you can make your weapons stronger maybe night two is when you're really worried about uh fighting as many uh of the kind of mini bosses as you can so that you know then for day three you're you're ready for that big boss so it's funny because you have all these choices with the character classes
and i like that you even unlock some more of them but it almost feels like maybe it's it's it's surprisingly rigid and the best way to go about things maybe Maybe that's an illusion right now.
There doesn't seem to be as much of that kind of classic From Soft Souls -like jazz in there to me.
Yeah, my experience from playing with randos is a little bit up and down.
Generally, at least one party member will know the flow of the game and then the other third person will kind of be weighing us down a bit because they just keep going off in their own direction because they think it's like super duper open.
right uh communication in the game is a little light i kind of wish there was more modern uh quality of life stuff like pinging being easier than just like having to open up your map and then circle around your map um yeah i have oddly been really enjoying it and i i finished elden ring but i bounced off of it in a major way where i just didn't want to revisit it I think here because you're locked into classes and it's kind of like a no one get mad at me here this kind of reminds me of turbo mode in Dota oh my god I'm not saying that I've been playing Dota I'm clean everyone I'd rather you smoke
more cigarettes than play Dota I don't cigarettes seem cooler than Dota Dota didn't Dota ruined my life and destroyed my marriage um where i do like that the only thing i have to worry about is just having enough souls and runes and stuff to level up and just visit the bonfire and get going i also enjoy that you just got to walk by the bonfire and then you just get boosted up and your flasks refill and everything um i just don't know how how much legs this game has after the initial initial boom yeah and like even you know just just from what i'm presented with there's kind of like what eight
of these bosses that you kind of have to go through and even then like the bosses are different but what you're doing is is maybe kind of similar so i do wonder like once i once you you know finish it how much more is there maybe you know they can keep adding more i guess this is a live service game so we'll see one thing that's neat um there's this kind of codex in your main hall or whatever, and you sort of unlock these more traditional one -on -one fights for each of the classes where you just actually go and fight bosses as those dudes, and it suddenly is much more like a traditional Souls -like
there. I think that's a neat addition.
I'd be happy to check out more of those.
Yeah, I'm curious to see if From is going to expand this world or maybe what they could do with A Night Rain 2 down the line.
um that being said i would enjoy playing this game more with uh you and grubb yeah i definitely want to check out some more of it i don't i doubt it's going to be something i get super into um i think it's a neat experiment i think even you know i think there's a rush of concern maybe negativity around it at the immediate launch i think more people are coming around to it and they're finding the fun with it and kind of accepting it for what it is and it seems like from software is addressing some of those complaints quickly i do want to try it solo now and see if that feels viable because part
of it is especially with run -based games a run -based game i'm like i want to go and do a run right now well if the only way i enjoy playing this game is with my brothers who have families and whatnot or friends who also have jobs and are busy it's kind of hard to like be like hey let's go do a run right now i want that to be spontaneous it's something i can just do but not to do with randos in a game we're deciding where we go is a very important thing so we're all just standing around nervous to make the first move like a bunch of middle school dance kids right it's it's awkward sadie hawkins
uh dance you know the the dance scene and heavy weights and then you gotta get a camp counselor to make the move smoothing always comes back The editing technique Your queen would be proud Mike is there a way to end End a run without Wiping at the very last boss I hate that because like Like when you die To a mini boss You lose a level And that's often enough to cook you It's like well that's Losing a whole level We're done we're cooked here And you want to just end the run and get whatever rewards you should.
But as far as I can tell, maybe I'm missing something.
Like, you could just leave, but you don't get the rewards, and you get some runes or whatever, and you want those.
So you have to wait until at least you fight one of the knight big bosses, and when people die to that, then you actually die and fail, because otherwise you just keep respawning and losing levels and everything.
Yeah, it's an interesting loop.
I feel like the Monster Hunter crowd crowd would get into it and sometimes they don't see the monster hunter crowd necessarily crossing over to the souls like uh gang okay so chat let's clarify and i was wondering about this because you drop when you die you drop your runes and i just assumed those were the runes you were carrying with you apparently that has the level you lost also oh i guess you can just get back in this maybe done see this is kind of the classic i like that from software doesn't have to explain everything to me in these games but sometimes i'm like oh i didn't know that and i
wish i did So there you go.
I never saw the runes that I lost whenever I would die.
Yeah, they're on the map just like in normal Elden Ring.
So they are there. They are doing their thing.
And I also get why you want to make it difficult for people to leave if people are playing with randos, right?
You don't want people just rage quitting and then everybody else is screwed. So I do get that.
Yes, AJ, you were right about this.
I was wrong here. He was screaming.
He said this was how it worked when I was playing with my brother.
And me and my other brother ganged up on him And told him he was a stupid idiot And of course it doesn't work that way It turns out it works that way So my bad on that one Ah so they can get absorbed by enemies Like in Bloodborne I also got mad at him because we died on the final boss And I was like oh that was my fault I died too many times And he's like yeah it was your fault I was like you're supposed to say how it's your fault too You're not supposed to agree You're supposed to take equal blame It's bad decorum Well, with that, we're going to let Mikey cool off.
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I wish I had a record scratch because really, we're not doing the news yet.
We're talking merch with Merch Master Mikey on Tuesdays.
Wicky, wicky, wicky, wicky.
Merch. Wow, incredible.
Yes, we got new merch on the Giant Bomb store, the Giant Bomb Emporium.
This is the first wave of merch since we have gone independent.
So I am pretty excited about this.
I hope people do check out store .giantbomb .com.
We've got four new shirts and a tote.
notes uh you can get the the spoon heaven shirts which uh you know is that game we all hope is going to come out maybe it comes up very soon maybe it gets announced at sgf spoon heaven that's the only name for this game you all know what i'm talking about so get your spoon heaven shirts right now so you're prepared for the big shadow drop that's definitely happening very soon there's there's the smallest possibility right team cherry that's who made uh yeah so apparently the steam database like just got updated or something for that game i don't know there's like more than a small possibility
still let's not let's not get our hopes but what i'm getting at is that like they could sneak in a little spoon in the game right i'll tell you what if you think what are the odds anybody there knows about spoon heaven because i would love it somebody does i bet somebody if somebody snuck in a spoon heaven reference to holiday silk song it it would actually be the greatest thing that's ever happened to me.
Mike, that's the greatest thing that's ever happened to you?
Well, one time I put on a hat and a wig and I looked really cool.
And you can look cool, too.
You can get your own rascal Mitch. He's going to look so cool shirt on the Giant Bomb store.
And all sorts of kind of fun, bright colors.
You can get black, of course, but I think this one looks good.
And the classic rascal royal purple.
pretty pretty fetching in the uh the teal option okay we've created the monster with this is bad right now this is good stuff here uh i'm so happy that we all bought this bomb together you can celebrate that moment with the we bought a bomb shirt i should mention by the way that the uh those last two pieces there featured art by uh nick toilets and thank you you so much next way for that and uh we bought a bomb from jerem this is uh awesome arts of us in uh peanuts style charlie brown -esque uh celebrating the independence of jaya bomb uh it's a good good good stuff here we got luchadier along
for the ride as well i think this one is very cute i think this one looks nice in uh the lighter colors i like the soft cream here uh personally but yeah plenty of good options for that one merch master merch master can i can i queue you up for a segue sure mike i wish i could carry all of these shirts that i want to buy from store .giantbomb .com what could i do you know what jan i'm tired of your problems i am tired of earth these people i'm tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives That's what Rascal Mitch said When he's had enough of playing bad video games And had to isolate himself
on Mars A moment that you can now carry around with you forever Thanks to the Mitch on Mars tote bag Thank you so much to Mosley Lunsford For this awesome art inspired by The Watchmen Isn't it the moon?
Wasn't it Mars? It's pink Doctor Manhattan This is an original thing this isn't an illusion or a reference to anything same thing all right original art an idea my my mistake it was mars you scared me you scared me chat's help that's right it's mars i was worried look how pink it is the moon ain't pink brother i mean certainly some artistic what i was gonna say something that could be forgot i i thought it was i thought it was fucking i thought it was more on the moon all right it's too close to earth it's still well you could still get caught in the tangle of people's lives yeah i love it was like
the mood is way too close for me to deal with my problem uh you could get this tote bag in pink which kind of matches the color of the planet or a black which matches the empty void of space so uh yeah both both options there are pretty good and then last but certainly not least finally i I can't believe it.
Go ahead, Jan. No, I just said finally.
Oh, sorry. I missed it.
We finally have a Blight Club shirt.
Our first Blight Club shirt featuring awesome art by Jerram.
It's got just about all the Blight Club characters on here.
No rascal, Mitch, but that's why he has a separate shirt.
It's kind of a Brady butt style thing.
I love how he's like, but that's why he has his own shirt.
Multiple other pieces of dedicated merch. Mike, I've worked here for almost eight years, and I think this is the first time I'm on a shirt.
Yeah, same, same. Look, you guys kept saying that we should do a Merchmaster Mike shirt and this shirt.
I had to be like, guys, I bought too many shirts already.
I had to be like, there's too many Mike shirts.
I think I have more photos of you on my computer and phone than I do of some family members.
Yeah. Yeah, that sounds about right.
I may have more shirts now with your face than I do with bands I like.
And you two at home can do that.
store .giantbob .com This shirt alone has, what, one, two, three, four, five pictures of my face on it.
Along with all of the versions of Dan and Grubb that you've come to know and love.
Like Danik, Bat Grubb, Super Dan, all the stars are here in the Blank Club.
blighty bunch shirt uh so yes uh please check that out remember um all this stuff is supporting us directly now this merchandise i know it's a bit shirt heavy this first drop try to uh get some more things in there soon maybe no more mugs i'm tired of these mugs they've been causing me nothing but problems since i've become in charge of the store they break they run out of them it gets seldom and then orders get held up and i gotta deal with it i want shit that won't break what Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Mugs do rule, though.
Yeah, they do. People like mugs.
You all have mugs already.
You can put coffee in a Solo cup.
What do you need a mug for?
No, you cannot, actually.
It'll melt. People don't buy Solo cups for ice, brother.
Ice coffee, then. God.
You actually cannot do that in a Dixie cup.
Mike Eaton? The chat is all saying they want mugs.
Yeah, mugs. Money on the table, brother.
All right. I'll tell you what.
Sales are final on mugs.
If it breaks, I don't want to hear about it.
no mike actually all kidding aside we should get new really good quality mugs like yeah better than the ones that we had recently so so that's called mike i think that's called your next project yeah i'm checking my notes here you know what i'm putting my fucking face on it oh can you do the thing where it's like your face is on the bottom of the mug though everything else is kind of plain and then when you hear mikey yeah i bet i can't I absolutely cannot do that.
I don't know if you could print down there.
I don't know. We'll take a look for that.
But I doubt I'm not allowed to do that.
So, yes, buy a shirt, everybody.
And a toast while you're at it.
I have the shirts heading my way.
Yes, me too. I am excited.
Yeah, thank you so much to all of these artists for contributing such amazing pieces.
It's been a ton of fun.
All right, Jan, the show's back to you.
Well. give it back to me mikey we're we're gonna do a pass and play here um tossing the ball back to you for news let's roll the music again look at me i'm the newsman jeff grubb can go to hell yeah la it's called los angeles yeah i was gonna say he's there yeah i think he's actually heading to disneyland right now so i'm very very jealous and upset sorry uh this is a great time to have like the the green tea go down the wrong hole and i'm just feeling like very coughing right now at the moment oh wait did you say you're feeling very coughing well i used to say i feel very like not him i used
to say i feel very coffee because you know i'm coughing and people are like what do you mean you feel like coffee i'm like no i just i have the essence of coughing if we make a new mug i should be on it yes yeah mike then you can you can design it you can say you can refund the people who are like my mug broke wait you're mike the way you're talking talking about it is as if people don't deserve refunds if the mug breaks you're talking about it like you're like they should lot they should just have Gorilla Glue piece this shit back together can we sell Gorilla Glue on the store I mean we could we
could sure if we become fucking Home Depot I don't know what to tell you alright okay okay hold on somebody send me a coffee with jam designed for a mug one more pitch okay I think Dan and I were talking about this but I think we should sell a shirt that says badanza and then an arrow pointing this way and then another one saying bajanza arrow pointing back that is a shirt for two people it's only available in yellow and the text is blue and that's it blue for one and red for the other there's just so many good ideas I think the mugs we have to preorder i don't think we could print oh you're kidding
me that's the point that's because the store here's the problem oh my god mike you cannot you are not allowed to be upset in the 72 hours in which you've taken ownership of this part of the business i'm ready people like myself and other people who've had to fucking deal with this for years because they sell out of those things that you actually buy inventory for that the store doesn't know for a while we had okay 44 orders go out with that mug on may 10th that we had no mugs for so all these orders are held up and i'm fixing it i got it it's great i'm yes system's not perfect okay we know this we
know we know it's a problem it's crashing out over mug you are crashing out over merch customer service i've never seen a mug crash out like this before but goddamn am i glad to have a debut on the bomb cast listen to me okay yeah it's problems problem mistakes were made i'm on top of that phrase a lot now these days i'm enjoying this new aspect of my job i really am no but like we'll get it to a good place and i'm excited to have you lead it up because it's awesome it's just awesome that you're dealing with it i think it's it's fun for all of us to watch you do this and for the audience to watch
you do this uh you realize i threw myself at this largely out of guilt because during all the sgf planning i was just like i am not very helpful right there's all these things that had to happen and i'm just sitting here like this had to happen regardless this this was always your fate you just didn't realize that's right that's right but here we are and it's good we've got merch go buy it and if you you have problems please reach out to me i will fix them and i love to hear from you oh i got some fucking news who's ready for it i'm looking forward to the new podcast segment the merch minute with mitch
there are so there are probably so many small business owners out there who are listening to you and they are rolling their eyes back into their skull incredible but as soon as i i got like a real job the complaints have started coming it's it's just tremendous in a way i was not expecting you know what there is some person working in a warehouse right now listening to the show that just threw his box of mugs on the ground saying god damn it amen mike i hate these that's that little handle that is just not a strong area the whole refund waiting to happen it's just it's just way to break off it's
just not very strong connecting there it's just not designed well the whole bug situation was a mistake yeah i love my dog bomb mugs i've had for years they're great the whole mug situation mike the whole mug situation like as as like a design in general just the concept of mugs it's a flawed design isn't it folks it is we've never never really taken a step back and appreciated how flawed that design is yeah i mean i mean how are you supposed to grab it it's just a giant like potential point of failure this handle the um i still have my beast cast mug which is like which can hold 64 ounces of hot
liquid never used that for i think i ate cereal out of it once so apparently like because people have been asking me specifically about this mythical giant beast cast mug people want another one in my kitchen yeah yeah people like that and they want one of those back i have to see if if i can make that happen i don't know what those won't break the box is the problem the box should be worried more than the mug i mean yeah the skulls you attack with it will break but yeah the mug will be fine self -defense it's a self -defense mug that's how we promoted it hey the switch 2 is coming up very soon we're just
a couple of days away from the release of it so those reviews should be dropping any moment now, right?
Well, no, actually.
There are no Switch 2 reviews.
This is from Andy Robson at VGC.
It's official. For the first time in more than 20 years, there will be no pre -release reviews for a new Nintendo console.
According to a company spokesperson, Nintendo decided not to send Switch 2 review units to press ahead of launch because important features and updates will only be available via a system update on the day of the console's official release on June 5th.
It did not say what these updates entail or explain why the media wasn't offered the opportunity to review its launch games, like Mario Kart World and Switch 2 Welcome Tour, at in -person events instead, like it did with previous console launches, such as the Wii.
Neither did explain why critics can't be trusted to cover products with knowledge that additional functionality will be patched later, as they frequently used to.
um this is weird it's it's some ways not super surprising i think nintendo has been looking for opportunities to kind of cut out traditional media in terms of getting messages out there with its products that's a big part of that nintendo today app right it's like we're gonna tell people about us directly you don't have weird journalist middlemen i don't know how you all feeling about this feeling like the cell and nintendo jail is a little cramped right now with all these other media guys in it now i don't see what it's like now no i don't think you can use your mug to rattle on the bars of a jail
cell yes there you go yeah and that shit won't break listen as long as i've been in this business you know when i was at cnet we had very as cushy as a relationship with nintendo as you could possibly ask for i mean they they were very accommodating however i'd be lying if i said that this entire time it was always like Like, it always felt like they were just always like, do we have to?
Like, do we have to play with them?
And then when I say them, I don't mean Cena.
I mean, like, media press in general.
And I always felt like they kind of, like, were sort of forced to kind of play ball in a way that they never really wanted to.
I always found them great.
Like, I was at Lawrence .com, and I remember they sent me the Wii and every single launch game, like, three weeks early.
Of course. Like I said, at Cine, it was gross how over the top they would accommodate it.
But I still think there was this sort of air of like, we don't need to be doing this.
We're kind of just doing this.
I know what you mean, Bacalar.
And I think that Nintendo, if they can, they would do everything on their own.
Yes. They've been much more open to working with other people.
But I think it kind of kills them that they have to partner with Universal on theme parks and movies and that they just can't do all of that stuff.
in -house and like yeah i think they hate that they have to trust journalists or the people with the messaging behind these things they're very sensitive about it i witnessed it firsthand when i accidentally said how many cat shines were in super mario uh 3d world bowser's fury and have been kind of like on a shit list ever since then even then like i still get opportunities to get codes once they launch blah blah blah uh but yeah i think it's strange like you know So there aren't going to be any reviews, however, Mario Kart World when that game launches.
We're just going to have to wait for everybody to play it and then figure it out.
It's weird. Yeah, it's I mean, I guess on one hand, it's like I'm glad that there's not like a Breath of the Wild type situation because that would be such a more pressing like Mario Kart.
I think everyone's going to get what that game is right away.
Yeah, it's a really good Mario Kart.
whereas like with breath the wild it was huge to have a few weeks to play it before it came out versus we got into nintendo jail and then tears of the kingdom i got on release day and it's like man how the fuck you're gonna you know review a game that's like 100 plus hours long and you got it when everyone else did like what's the point at that point you know see i'm i'm not surprised about the switch too i what i'm thinking about now is like we're not gonna get fucking donkey kong ahead of time now is that what that means too like i don't i think they're doing this for For the hardware?
Nintendo always gave code pre -release in recent years.
I bet Media will get Donkey Kong early.
We won't as long as we're in Nintendo jail.
No, yeah. That's what I'm asking.
Am I asking is this just because it's attached to the hardware?
Is that why the cart is not coming?
I think it's a very special case because of the hardware and I bet they are still very much like we don't want this stuff out there.
They're going to leak it or blah, blah, blah.
I bet they won't be quite as precious when it comes to just sending out codes for Donkey Kong.
Yeah, which we understand that.
Yep. All right. Next up here is, hey, State of Play is happening.
Sony confirmed State of Play PlayStation Showcase 4 tomorrow will last 40 -plus minutes.
This is from Wesley Yin Pool at IGN.
In a PlayStation blog post, Sony Interactive Entertainment content communications manager Tim Turi said fans will get news and updates on must -play games coming to PS5.
Turi continued, The show highlights a selection of great games from creators across the globe.
Classic Tim Turi. Is there a trusted source available?
The 40 plus minute show begins on June 4th at 2 p .m. Pacific, 5 p .m. Eastern.
Everybody was wondering when we were going to get one of these.
It's a little surprising that it's happening right now, right before SGF.
Nothing going on. Could have given us a bit more of a heads up about this.
But there you go. It's always worth mentioning.
state of plays are not playstation showcases they're often smaller events but they can have some exciting things and we haven't heard from playstation in a while so i think there are some expectations here um so it's state of play playstation showcase is usually the smaller well what is the big one called wait a second state of play playstation wait a second what the hell is oh my god they're conflating everything what the hell it's called state of play places okay maybe Maybe it is a very big one, then.
Shit! We're going to talk over it regardless.
We're talking over it.
40. Okay. Well, then maybe it's huge.
I don't know. They're definitely going to talk about Ghost of Yotai.
Yotai, excuse me. That's coming out soon.
And there's some things we haven't heard about in a while, like Wolverine.
Oh, my lord. That's right.
I don't think we're going to see anything with Wolverine.
Maybe you keep that to yourself if you're a fantasy critic holder of Wolverine.
but they gotta you know maybe we'll see more of heretic another thing they gotta announce some things here though i think right uh is house mark making another game i mean they're probably announced it oh okay right right yeah but this isn't going to be the place where we hear more about that i don't think i mean yesterday during game mass mornings grub was talking about re9 is this the place i've seen a lot of chat talking about that um resident evil 9 rumors have started up again and i think everybody is sort of thinking hey hey, it's time.
We've been getting those at a pretty steady clip for a while now.
So yeah, it's not even here maybe at SGF, but honestly, probably at Sony's thing we do see Resident Evil, and I'm very interested to see what that looks like.
Rumors have been saying that it's going to be a bit more open world.
Capcom kind of had an unofficial trilogy of open world games and it's RE Engine with, not Death Stranding 2, Dragon's Dogma 2, then we had monster hunter wilds and then this resident evil so i want to see what that looks like i think that's both exciting and also a little concerning because i don't know you know it's it's new it's different i'm glad they're gonna take a chance but i hope they don't miss it i hope it runs well because some of those open world re engine games have not always looked amazing i am fully vertical for re9 it's all like kind of like those are the games i just just kind
of really just care about like if we're being if we're just mask offing right now like that's that's it and i guess now i'm a jrpg person as well so i've expanded my horizons a little bit good for you thank you but yeah i want it spooky i want my survival horror fix uh itched uh scratched every three years or so thank you for uh thank you for debuting re9 tomorrow thank you by the next bombcast i think we will be talking about resident evil 9 based on i hope so now you're all all now you are all kidding my hopes i was trying to be like maybe it won't happen that's okay boy like the last few years
i've really fallen in love with resident evil in a way i i have oh yeah you just heard about it is that what happened well i used to be a little bit of a wimpy see and i've kind of gotten over that a bit and this whole resident evil world hardcore mikey here so wait yeah you're pretty you're such a badass now watch out folks we got a regular horror badass over here gore i like silent uh silent hill 2 a lot last year hell yeah that was hell yeah hell yeah survival horror that stuff that stuff rules but that resi will 4 remake is like one of my favorite games ever i freaking loved that's really
brave of you to say that i think um because it's scary it's super scary and like a lot of dissenting voices in that opinion for sure polarizing yeah I love that for Mikey I love it for Mikey he's an M rated boy now for Mike Minotti it's rated M for Mike Minotti be careful that's going to become a mug tomorrow you would like it Dan I was looking through the support mails and the first thing Mike wrote was what do you mean it's broken you can still hold it you just can't use the side thing anymore more right like it still holds liquid it's not broken mike what if we make a shirt with you like crushing
a mug in your hands yeah oh mug masher mitch the pain of his existence wait so we wait let's bring it back for a second here uh re re8 because that was village right yes that was village people that was like a half step towards open world right it was a bit more open it's spokes on a wheel yeah you know the center hub area and then it's like okay the four like kind of made like disneyland oh fuck he's right exactly like disneyland look look when when a relevant analogy is made you will get points and that was kind of perfect that was relevant resident evil village eight village is basically disneyland disney
world in florida we're like what's in the center is it epcot no no so it's more like even disneyland because in the center is the castle and then from it the spokes go to fantasyland he's right he's right i'm you're right you're right you're right it makes sense you're right yes yeah killed it friend of the show jason schreier uh skeeting out something very vague about uh jason schreier liking final fantasy tactics and saying that's one of the greatest games ever made oh my god okay so wait a second a couple things about this so fantasy tactics we've been hearing maybe a remake of that is coming
forever but also final fantasy 9 is somebody's 25th anniversary and they keep updating that website they added a bunch of new character art recently so there are two potential final fantasy remakes we could hear about here and um i think we i think like i'd go vertical for both of them nine i'd go super vertical for i think a lot of you would go super vertical for tactics i hope you get both of them because i really want to play it well they don't really really have anything final fantasy on the docket at the moment so it is kind of time to announce some stuff here while we're waiting for uh remake
part three of mikey mikey what if we get final fantasy nine tactics i'll go with it sure why not give me a little vv on a tile give me give me tile vv and hey haven't heard from kingdom hearts 4 in a little bit they showed those screenshots because they canceled that mobile game that's kind of a gimby but maybe that pops up here 2.
I don't know. Alright, so we'll be reacting to that, those of us who aren't in LA anyways.
And again, that is tomorrow, June 4th, 2pm Pacific.
The State of Play. Nothing going on.
Perfect timing. Yeah, right.
Thanks for the heads up.
It's not the only show that's been announced because Hitman developer IO Interactive is going to show up at the new James Bond game, 007 First Light at a special showcase this week from Demi Williams at TechRadar to celebrate 25 years of the Hitman franchise.
Hitman and Final Fantasy 9 are about the same age.
Interesting. The first IOI showcase will air online and in person on June 6th at 6pm Pacific.
Provide new details for IOI's franchises, including Hitman, Mind's Eye, can't forget about Mind's Eye, and 007 First Light.
That is, that James Bond game that has a name now, so that's nice.
The event will be live streamed from Los Angeles on IOI's Twitch, YouTube, and TikTok channels.
Feature exclusive trailers, announcements, gameplay demos, and a live Q &A with key figures from IO Interactive, Build A Rocket Boy, and more.
The studio has also confirmed that it will showcase its proprietary game engine, Glacier, alongside announcements regarding upcoming content for Hitman World of Assassination and collaborations within the Hitman franchise.
I think it's exciting that it seems like we're going to be getting new content for Hitman World of Assassination.
That could just mean, you know, like, more targets.
gets we know that the switch 2 version has that mario and luigi stuff in it part of me is like are we gonna get a new map because that would freaking rule yeah i'm one i want more hitman stuff it's so good it's an all -timer the hitman world of assassination thing is that launch for uh first switch 2 yes i think it is so that's cool i like the idea of having that on the go yeah it's like the one third party game i want the most i think because i i mean i played that game a ton And still, just having that on a Switch too, running pretty well, would be fantastic.
So, you know, maybe they're just talking about stuff coming in that version.
But I'm hoping that we do get a new map here.
They added that one pirate -themed map maybe a couple years ago, a little bit after the fact, and that was pretty cool.
So, I don't think they're going to be doing a new Hitman soon.
And honestly, if they've updated that game a lot with new maps, that would almost be enough.
Because I think the formula they have there is pretty much perfect.
I think IOI doing this presentation during SGF is the perfect time to launch a map at a video game convention.
Like a classic E3 convention center.
Oh, it would be so good.
I would love it. I would love it.
Who would the target be?
Be careful. I mean, probably shouldn't say.
But it would be hilarious if one of the things you got to blend in with is Agent 47 is now giving a keynote speech during a presentation.
presentation i remember remember um that picture of the uh the playstation booth worker and the xbox booth booth worker and they kind of look like star -crossed lovers i want that to figure into it prominently like they're they're like gossiping and like that's how you pick up key info about your target right behind the scenes if you overhear them yeah yeah yeah um but yeah also first light that's the name of that bond game we've this has been announced there was a bit bit more of an extra tease on the nintendo direct about the switch too because it's coming to that so we'll finally get a look
at this game uh we still really don't know much about it if it's going to be a lot like hitman if it's going to be a bit more shootery i'm not super sure i don't even know what perspective it's going to be in but i'm excited to get a look there's a big legacy of james bond video games out there all right then pokemon scarlet and violet switch two patches Patches out now as Nintendo reveals the first footage of the upgrade.
This is from Jordan Middler at VGC.
Nintendo has released new footage of Pokemon Scarlet and Violet running on Nintendo Switch 2.
The patch for the game, which upgrades the game's visuals and performance, is available to download now.
Scarlet and Violet was released in 2022 on Nintendo Switch. The game was met with criticism from fans due to performance issues, including frame rate problems, low -level detail, and frequent bugs.
Suggs! Scarlet and Violet on the Nintendo Switch 2 will run at 60 frames per second at a higher resolution.
The console's launch is Thursday, June 5th.
The next game in the series, Pokemon Legends ZA will release on Nintendo Switch and Switch 2 on October 16th.
I have been a big fan of Pokemon in the past. Scarlet and Violet looked so bad that it was something of a breaking point for me.
It was the first mainline Pokemon game I just could not finish.
I was so distraught by how terrible it looks.
Looking at this, you know, like the detail isn't great but 60 frames per second goes such a long way with me i can play this game now it um yeah i think this was my one of my breaking points as well uh i think i remember for scarlet and violet i loaded it up at like when it launched at midnight and did a quick look live solo dolo and then i remember bacalar uh and dib bacalar telling me that him and did watch it afterwards and i think during that quick look i said guys i think i'm done with pokemon and i And I remember Dibb telling his father, you know, I'm sad for Jan, but I don't think he's
done yet. So thanks to Dibb for holding on to that hope for me.
He's wise beyond his years.
I keep telling him that.
We're back. It's worth knowing that this isn't one of those upgrades you have to buy.
This is just a patch. So, you know, you just play this on your Switch 2, and it will be running.
But, I mean, this game, like that frame rate was maybe in the teens sometimes.
Single digis, buddy.
it ran like hot garbage on the switch when it was shocking so it was kind of weird seeing breath of the wild running at 60 frames per second this video seeing this game running at 60 frames per second is uh it's almost uplifting in a way so i'm excited about that uh i definitely think i am going to go back and at least try to play through that main story it'll be a little weird because i don't want to restart because i remember the beginning being pretty long and boring so i I guess I'll just jump back in and figure out, okay, who was in my party?
Oh, it's that guy who looks like a motorcycle who doesn't actually move his wheels like a motorcycle.
Right. I hate him. But that's okay.
We'll have fun. The People Can Fly shuts down two games and prepares for layoffs.
From Dean Takahashi at GamesBeat.
Sebastian Wojcicki, sorry about that, CEO of Polish Game Studio, People Can Fly, announced that the company suspended development of two games, Project Gemini and Project Bifrost. As a result, he said the company has had to significantly regroup as a studio and scale down its teams. People Can Fly has been plagued by cancellation layoffs recently, though it is still working on Gears of War E -Day for Microsoft with the coalition.
The company said the Gemini suspension is due to the publisher, which is Square Enix, agreement, failing to present to the company with a draft of the subsequent content rider to the publishing agreement, agreement covering the terms and conditions of further milestones of Gemini and the lack of communication from the publisher as to its willingness to continue or terminate Gemini it sounds like Square Enix ghosted them yeah yeah which is strange a strange thing for them to do um then Bifrost was kind of uh suspended sort of due to the suspension of Gemini and analysis of the company's cash flow
um boy this is rough People Can Fly has done some good stuff before for Bulletstorm I think we all look back fondly to and they have worked on Gears of War a lot and like I said they are working on E -Day so you think that would be a good thing for them but boy it is rough out there I don't understand Square Enix at all over the last couple years it feels like they're the uh type of person to ghost you but still talk shit about you um behind your back based off of communications and how they've been treating other partners it is kind of going at their strategy though because they used to work with a lot
more partners right um especially western studios and they've really retreated from that i mean you know they used to you know own like idus montreal and stuff like that right and they sold that off forever ago so sometimes it's not shocking but it really is leaving people can fly out to dry and fortunately for people can fly It's not that era where, say, Xbox is going out there and buying up a lot of studios or things like that.
This is a pretty tough situation and a tough time for them to be in it.
I hope they can weather the storm.
I hope that maybe Microsoft will have more work for them to do.
Hopefully there's a ton of other Gears of War projects or something else that they can work on.
Speaking of bad news, things getting canceled.
EA cancels the Black Panther game, closes Cliffhanger Games.
This is from Rebecca Valentine at IGN.
Electronic Arts is canceling its planned Black Panther game and shutting down developer Cliffhanger Games, IGN has learned.
An email sent to staff from EA Entertainment President Laura Meele.
Meele says that these changes, alongside other recent cancellation layoffs, are being done to sharpen our focus and put our creative energy behind the most significant growth opportunities.
Little was shown of Black Panther so far since the announcement of 2023.
Though we know from a job listing it was to be a single -player action -adventure open -world game, This is pretty shocking.
EA, it seems like they're canceling more games than they announce these days.
It seems like an IP that's ripe for this sort of thing, and yet we've been seeing kind of a retreat from making these IP type games.
games ubisoft recently did an avatar game and a star wars uh game and neither of those seems like they did super well ea does have its jedi series and they are making a new tactics uh video game based on star wars over there at respawn they still have an iron man game and a pose supposedly another superhero game that we don't know about in development we'll see how those do yeah i don't know knowing nothing about black panther i've reading the description of the game sounded like Like, man, I want to play that.
That sounds great. Like, I've loved superhero games in the past, even though I'm not like a superhero movie guy.
And the fact that they were going to use like the Nemesis system stuff and everything, like it sounded really cool.
And like, it probably would have sold a shit ton, right?
You would think Black Panther is still very popular.
And there's another Black Panther game, one that's set during World War II with Captain America.
And that's the one that Amy Henning's making over at Skydance, or I can't remember the name of it, Rise of Hydra, or something like that.
But this was like, you know, more akin to what people are used to from the movies, that kind of Black Panther.
And I think that would have resonated quite a bit.
People supposedly what they were working on looked cool.
But EA was somewhat upset about the kind of lack of progress or the fact that they were still in a beta phase after years of development and work on it.
I don't know. It seems like they lost patience.
Was Black Panther Ryan Coogler?
Yep. Okay. I'm finally seeing Sinners tonight.
So exciting. Very excited for that.
I've heard good news.
Yeah, I don't know.
I feel like the Black Panther IP has is still very valuable, even though we've had a kind of decline in interest with the MCU and then Marvel video games kind of being up and down.
But people absolutely adore the Spider -Man games.
If this Black Panther game could have been fun to run around in, this could have occupied that same spot.
lot um a lot of folks like how wakanda looks in the movies and you could do a lot with afro futurism um as like a very underrepresented setting in video games in general so it could have been really neat to look at it's a bummer that ea just doesn't want to make games anymore yeah and the parallels here are kind of are kind of strange because warner brothers canceled canceled Wonder Woman in February this year and then shut down monolith productions.
This studio is kind of, you know, built off of X monolith staff.
It's like, it's like we just have had that entire kind of legacy and trajectory for games wiped out this year.
And it's a, it's a bummer for sure.
Yeah. All right, though, that's it for the news.
Jen, I am handing the show back over to you.
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Matt from Boston writes in, Hey there, Bomb Crew.
The upcoming re -release of Dogma has me wondering if anyone is just an average fan of Kevin Smith.
In my experience, you either love him or hate him.
glad to have you guys still around Matt from Boston hate always have from the beginning man cool and brave take oh you're mister I hate everything well but he's also not true I want to know what back or thinks about Kevin so I'm like contractually obligated to like him because of the new jersey stuff I mean like clerks is a good movie like like mall rats is good like those are good movies i i had a big kevin smith yeah like i don't i i i think when yeah i'm obviously in like the blast radius uh i think dogma is really good too i like dogma um you know i i like more of his stuff than i don't i
think there's definitely stinkers there i mean chasing amy i really like uh you know i just a lot but a lot of that stuff is like formative that i grew up kind of watching and i do think clerks was like a bit of the spice that was like oh wow you could just like do this there's like a way you know that you can kind of just like make a thing uh which i thought was fun you know it's yeah i you know there's a hockey connection there too of course sure um i don't i've never dan's the only one i know as of right now who's told me to my face that they hate Kevin Smith.
I mean, Dogma made me laugh a couple times.
Mallrats is probably the one that bugged me the least. Mallrats had stuff that I enjoyed, but just the whole he annoys me just whenever I see him talk.
And also Clerks, I heard people rave about that, and then I saw it in high school, and I was like, this is fucking stupid.
I hated Clerks. That is the least surprising sentence I've ever heard Dan say.
What about Jameson and Bob Strike's back?
I hated that, dude.
I saw that. I love that.
That's such a silly movie.
Dan's on a bit of of an island there i uh i feel like it's very just like like the people that like you know internet meme humor and like i can't hash cheeseburger stuff back in the day it's like oh it's ironic cool i don't know i think you're missing the mark there but you're gonna hate this but i feel like jason on ball strikes back is kind of mcgruber adjacent no you're you're like i'm not saying you're allowed to have this bad opinion i'm not saying like you're not allowed to have it i think it's fine i just think you know i think you know a lot of kevin smith's It self -predates internet culture
kind of stuff, which I think is interesting.
I mean, it was formulative for that, right?
In the 90s, setting a lot of that up, and even the early 2000s with Jamin Starr, Bustard Bax, and, like, it definitely got—the bit got tired, and I definitely fell off it, and I think it is definitely—it's kind of targeted for 20 -somethings, a lot of that stuff, from that period.
So, you know, when I go back to it now, I don't get what I used to get out of all of that, but I don't know.
I used to enjoy watching those movies.
i dan i i also think you need to update your uh go to internet meme call out i think when i was using old ones because that was like more time appropriate i think you might be dating yourself i think you should start saying the more contemporary star wars kid uh i think that would really uh i was dating it with old kevin smith movies dan you should start saying raffle copter again oh let's bring it back let's bring it back you know it's funny like i feel like i say all the time what the fuck is the internet all the time as a as a kevin smithing um that That short lived clerk's cartoon show is actually
pretty funny. The second episode was a clip show with only clips from the first episode.
I liked that. I remember, I think I was still in middle school when Dogma came out and we had to do a presentation because I went to a private school and I used the Buddy Jesus image in a PowerPoint and my teacher was furious with me.
She did not like like that jesus looked like a nice human being to party with no she just wanted to see him cruised yeah i i worked at the theater in kansas when dogma came out and we had protesters and we're being like you know 14 15 working the box office and having to deal with like a bunch of angry screaming church people and that sounds right yeah he's like so i crossed that picket line and marched right with him i will say that cop out by cam smith is one of the worst movies i've seen oh yeah dude like he definitely went through a lot of bullshit for sure yeah not the worst which is now
freaking uh love on a leash that dan forced me to watch this weekend which is so far and above so easily the worst movie i have the people i've ever seen tell the people why so much so much worse than fucking noobs if you can believe it i was just stunned by what was happening on YouTube, Love on a Leash, 2011.
I watched it twice in the last week.
Horrified is a better word. I was horrified by what was happening.
Tell Jan why it's bad.
Jan wants to know why it's bad.
No, I'm saying why did you watch it?
Because they did the charity card. Dan was like, if somebody donates $500 to a charity of choice, will you watch it?
Well, of course, I guess I will, yes.
And it was very late.
I had to get up to go to a charity walk the next day, and instead I had to sit there and watch this awful movie That doesn't have Music or decent ADR or The lead actor The voice of the dog was paid in a cantaloupe And homemade wontons Yeah I tell you what they still overpaid For him For Alvin Fling it was rough I want to circle back on the Kevin Smith Thing with Dan for a second Dan do you think Can you at least say that like The world is It's better to have have kevin smith than than to not have it he might be a nice guy to people i don't know i'm talking about his mark his mark on on on filming
not for me it was important for indie films like yeah of course he was and that's what i'm getting at and it's someone who just went independent i just feel like there's enough of a crossover where you can be like you know what it's a good thing someone like that exists like it's okay i i just don't like his stuff and so no he has not made my life any better again it's not about you it's about but i only know me that's all my brain knows there you go folks the mask is off well i didn't mean it like that but like how could i like i have not seen anything that he has done that has made my life we're
telling you like he helped he he helped uh we're saying progress indie films and scholar he yeah you're literally are supposed to yeah you're supposed to be which is you can't use that excuse this time you're so useless you're so fucking useless this isn't pancakes i don't know anything about his influence on independent like independent movies existed before clerks right of course they did so what was the point what you understand like in the 90s he he absorbed a lot of that and i think kind of handled it in a pretty respectful way an admirable way and obviously anyway okay well look there you
have it folks all right email next email let's go uh you know what zach and mary make a porno that was an okay movie it's not bad it's fine yeah uh that guy shits all over um the weather guy or though the girl shits on that guy remember after the anal scene and then yes thank you for bringing that scene up yeah i was just talking about the movie as a whole not the specific scene mike but thanks for jogging that in my brain that happened in that movie simon from saskatchewan has been been known to send along some trivia and they continue with coffee coffee hello bombcast caffeine doesn't actually
dehydrate you if someone was dying of thirst and all you had was coffee it wouldn't dehydrate them more caffeine is a diuretic though a diuretic is something that makes you need to pee more some people are more affected by it though and you need to take and to take more pee breaks you'd have to drink an immense amount of coffee for deep to dehydrate you like way more than even Jan drinks watermelon is a stronger diuretic than coffee weirdly thanks for all you that is weird Simon from Saskatchewan I never would have guessed that that watermelon is more of it so is diuretic only urination I would assume
it's number two as well yeah because coffee makes me shit crazy but it doesn't make me I don't think about peeing with coffee you know yeah well yeah what the word diuretic makes me think of diarrhea so of course But I don't think there's It sounds like there's not a connection I think it's only for pee pee Number It definitely makes me shit Do you think it's like Putting enough pressure on Like the pee pee that it's like Oh well I gotta squeeze out the other stuff too I mean that's a pretty big leap I don't know Well you guys are gross Well we're talking about it in like a You just talked about anal A relatively
safe way to converse You know Go eat spaghetti, Mike.
People say it's only fluid.
Don't tempt me. I'm spaghetti.
Okay, let's keep reading emails.
Alright, this one comes from Gabe in Detroit.
Giant Bomb! First, congratulations on Independence.
I'm so happy for all of you.
Okay, I'm going to preface this by saying I am a nerd. I paint minis, play Warhammer, and a ton of board games, collect Transformers, read comics weekly, and obviously play a lot of video games.
Vinny, is this you?
I sent my wife a text from work saying, Friday night is Summer Game Fest presentation and I'm gonna watch it, just a heads up.
I come home and get into the house and she says, that's video game stage stuff.
Yeah? I ask. It's the nerdiest thing you do.
I laughed a lot. I don't know.
I don't think it's that nerdy.
What has the crew been told is the nerdiest thing they do that has been a surprise.
Cheers to all of you.
Enjoy the weekend in LA.
gabe detroit michigan oh god i'm surprised that is the thing that was labeled as the the most nerdy yeah i don't think i can understand if somebody's like not used to this world the idea that we watch just like some dude show us a bunch of trailers talking about painting minis i mean come on like a hundred percent like the oscars are accepted as like a normal thing right and like that is also we know for a lot of people like that barrier between movies and video games is still a giant golf and sgf is different too because like you know when i explained to non -gamers what i'm doing in la for the game
awards you know i can say like oh it's like the oscars but for video games for sgf it's different it's like you know it's a press conference it's uh yeah but most people know of e3 and i just say this replaced e3 but a lot of people don't know i'm talking about people that don't know no i know i know i'm saying e3 has like transcended the norm i think it used to but it's been gone and not important long enough that that I think the normies don't know about E3 anymore.
I say it's a trade show.
Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's fine.
There's something unique about our industry, so I can understand somebody being a little bit, not weird out, but a little confused by it.
But the nerdiest thing, oh.
Oh, God. I've done so much nerdy shit my entire life, I don't know if there's anything that I did that shocked people.
I got a lot of shit a few Christmases ago, because when I was collecting Amiibos, pretty heavy, and one of the only ones I didn't have was like a daisy one or a peach one or something and i definitely got a lot of shit uh about like oh dame dame's gonna play with his little dolls you know like yeah yeah i don't think is that nerdy or were they saying that was something else probably everything nerdy the venn diagram was very close all the above all the above um i've been accused of being a nerd but not for like Like, I guess your normal nerd things like video games or comics.
Like, oh, Jan's a jeans pervert or like a coffee nerd, stuff like that.
Yeah, I've definitely got my stuff.
But I think the thing that most people is when I show them all the Marvel cards I have. Oh, cards for me too.
The card stuff is where people are like, they start to moonwalk out of my office.
this yeah whenever uh when i was like big into the pokemon tcg app um i noticed people would give me funny looks while i was waiting in places like oh look at this card perv right uh i'm sure if i went into like crt like in a retro tank type you know like deep retro stuff and emulation stuff i'm sure people would call it that but like i don't know if i'm talking to someone who's not into video games i'm not gonna be going into like retro tank stuff you know now right i guess i got Now would nerding out Be equivalent to marking Out in wrestling No because marking out is a like It's an exclamation It's
like I could say See that in like speed running There's a hype factor to marking out You know I think I got the most scuff when I bought Cuba Whore For $500 Oh yeah Can you put that on a chain and wear it to SGF, please?
Yeah. I have to get it graded first and in its case then put it on the chain.
Make it merch! Let's sell Cubivore chains.
I think the fine people at Atlus or whoever made Cubivore might have a problem with that.
I don't know. There is a product now at sports games where they sell the big chain link necklace with the team logo in a plastic sort of thing, so we can make this happen.
All right. A couple more emails here.
Moose from Springsteen Moose Springsteen from Boston good name good name Hey dudes how many things have you done 500 times 500 things 500 times Love ya Moose Springsteen From Boston Woken up over 500 times I would hope so I seriously hope Way more than 500 Over 500 Times I put socks on over 500.
Yes, I think I think we all have done 500 things 500 times.
Yeah. What's the worst thing you've done 500 times?
Let me read the PS here.
That's a good question.
In case anyone tries to be too pedantic, Mike, some things need to be combined.
You can't say you've done 500 steps with your left foot and 500 steps with your right foot.
That's just 500 steps.
All right. So then maybe we're discounting the waking up, aren't we?
And the socks. Yes.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, pressed every individual button on every controller for every console, right?
I think that's part of the pedantic argument.
Okay, okay. Like, an activity, right?
Like, we're seeking out and going out to do something.
Yeah, Moose, you should have been more specific.
Yeah, just like, again, what's the weirdest thing you've done 500 times, I think is a good way of thinking about it.
That's what I'm trying to imagine right now.
Hmm. Yeah. I've definitely squished McDonald's French fries 500 individual French fries.
I've probably done 5 ,000 when I was a kid.
That's the only way I would eat French fries.
Squish them? Yeah, you take a fry.
It's like yay long, and then you fold it over, and you squeeze it, and then you fold it over again, and you squeeze it, and you do it until you can't do it anymore, and I used to think of like unlocked flavor.
Okay. Normally that would be insane, but we're going to move.
I probably sung the Mike Minotti song 500 times, if not more.
I've probably Photoshopped everyone's faces here over 500 times.
That's true. All right.
Moving on. Last two emails of the show.
This one comes from Ryan in Belfast, Northern Ireland.
Bomb Squad. Jan hasn't played OG Doom?
What? This has to be a series on the site.
Our sweet, beautiful Millennial King takes on the boomiest of boomer shooters the tech uh the your text of the genre heavens own jan jerome versus the hordes of hell also can i suggest the condition manatee said he's been playing these games and quick saving his way through them jan should have this facility but he's only allowed to save when someone else tells him to that'll be fun love y 'all here's the independence shame the world so screwed love yours uh ryan and belfast northern ireland built list um that's dope i think it's a good idea i would really like to watch you play doom you want to
play very cool i'd love to play doom i think it would uh it would blow my mind that i can't aim up well it just sort of happens yeah you'll get used to it oh okay yeah that's that's the easiest thing to get over i think I know I'd be scared of hell though You know My Catholic upbringing I don't know if I can handle this guys You just keep a cup of holy water to your side You'll be fine That's why I got in that Container right there Just holy water I still want the KOTOR playthrough from Jim the most I'm gonna be honest Let's do both at the same time Be careful what you wish for folks Scott played
a little game called Eternal Darkness You're weak week i played that game right around the same time as you had a great time uh i'm uh wait you did that's uh that's weird you just did it you did yeah i think i was just playing it because i was i was i like i'd gotten a new hdmi converter for my gamecube or something so i was just playing a lot of gamecube when i started streaming too so i think i just streamed through eternal darkness i was like i think this game is a little clunky but i think it's still fun and then you did your playthrough and now you also had dan and jeff being fuckos with you
the entire time which i think was maybe impacting your enjoyment a little bit maybe maybe that's why i like can't even look at the game logo anymore or like even like like i bet if but i do think if i played it with a gamecube controller on the gamecube yes it would probably be a better experience shoot hardware yeah that was i mean it's it's a weird game the spell system in there is just pretty wild but there's still a lot about that game that i find uh neat the whole jumping between different time periods and the yeah of course effects uh i don't think it makes me weak but we can we can unpack
that now that was a mean thing i say you're right back lauren i apologize no no no let's let's just bottle up inside let it be a deep history of me being mean to you right and you're totally justifiable um i uh there were a couple parts we were playing that game where i was just like i can't fucking believe i did this i can't fucking believe i like went through this at one point i also don't like dive into retro stuff as much as maybe some of us do and like i guess it's less surprising when like mike or i go back to a ps2 era game or game cube era game because it's very true we do that stuff all
the time yeah right there was there was one scene there were a couple maybe one or two scenes where like the next object or like the next task in which you are meant to do is so just nonsense like just nonsense and you're like what what, like, when did I, how did I do this?
I think back then we also probably just looked it up.
I mean, GameFAQs was still a thing then.
They were selling strategy guides.
Mike, I feel like we're especially insulated now from that feeling of thinking old games are bad because now we're playing old games that are notoriously bad.
After, like, Alone in the Dark compared with, you know, Eternal Darkness would be, Eternal Darkness would be...
It softened your tolerance.
There was somebody on the Reddit was like, I'm I'm playing Rascal and like, you know, it's not a good game, but I don't think it's I don't think the controls are as bad as they said.
I was like, I'm just gonna let this one go.
Yeah. Grub got that the worst with Daikatana.
Oh, Grub has it the worst because there are still all these people like, Daikatana's not that bad, and they're probably playing a, they have to be playing a patched version.
Because there's no way anybody could play what I saw Jeff play and be like, this is pretty good.
Yeah. I feel Grub since he's in the same state as me right now i just feel him brimming with anger uh presence yeah uh just just hearing that thought that daikatana may be okay and pete better not be angry he's in fucking disneyland right now really yes yes all right all right last email of the show comes from jaco hi giant bomb crew i'm jaco long time listener uh first time emailer i think i've been listening since i don't know but i remember everyone was hyped for the impending release of undead redemption so must have been way back anyway uh listening to last week's episode and the discussion about uncle
names and i had to chime in with a cute story that will follow me for the rest of my life i assume my baby niece just turned one and she got a favorite toy she's got a favorite toy doll it's one of those old kind of dolls that have a stuffed body but the hands feet big bald head are all made made of hard plastic.
Anyway, that's her baby.
And baby's the only word she's really has down pat.
A few weeks back while visiting her, I took off my hat, I'm bald, parenthesis, hell yeah, but always wearing a baseball cap.
I think this is the first time she's seen me without my hat on.
So she takes one look at my big bald head, makes a pretty smart logical leap, points at me with a big smile, and exclaims, Baby!
Now, I'm Uncle Baby.
Do any of you have nicknames from younger siblings, nieces nephews kids etc that have stuck thanks jocko uncle baby billy i love it that's awesome um my uh my brothers and some of my closer friends they still call me mike zores just because i explained what leet speak to them was back when that was actually a thing and they thought that is the nerdiest thing you've ever done that is very bad but yeah there's a lot of people still kind of somewhat affectionately but jokingly call me mike zores wow some like older people too like their parents call me Mike Zors the S in that is just the number 5
right no it's the I think the only thing that's the O is a 0 otherwise it's relatively normal like the hack Zors remember back when we would say the hack Zors and we'd laugh let's dig up that shit I missed it bring it back I'm laughing I'm laughing let's create a franchise of themed bars around that concept that would be fun let's do that alright that about does it for emails this week anyone a fun uncle a funcle I am now I went from not being an uncle to having like four nieces and nephews I have a funcle sticker on my desk right now am I still considered an uncle like a shoot uncle if like my
cousin has a child am I an uncle then Depends how close you are to the kid You see that kid once a week?
Maybe like once, twice a month That's uncle That's good enough You know I don't have any Uncle nicknames It's just like Deeply troubling Uncle Jeff And stuff like that Deeply troubling Uncle Jeff Yeah it's just like the qualifier before the Uncle Jeff part At least there's a term of endearment At the conclusion of it But it's always prefaced with something something where it's like maybe you don't we don't call him on his birthday kind of thing okay oh oh yeah uh all right well uh something more uplifting because it was in the super chats mike manatee would you do me the kind favor of going through
the youtube super chats sure thing we got a few here from ali miracle switch to time to switch to grub getting blown up about a state of play um man again he's in disneyland so you should be going vertical constantly at this moment Yeah, Jeff has been talking about this for a while.
Turns out, once again, he was right.
So here it is. We'll see what happens there.
BigFresh37 says, Are there any reveals this week that would make you shed a tear or two?
P .S. Do something with Sunderfolk.
Okay, we'll do Sunderfolk.
If that Final Fantasy IX remake is real, that could get me somewhat emotionally vertical.
We'll see. Yeah. Tactics, if that drops, either War of the Lions or Advance.
Ugh. I'd get very excited about Resident Evil.
yeah that'd be exciting uh i may lose i may do a cartwheel if we see kingdom hearts 4 this weekend no i'll scream yeah depends on what worlds we see like if we see more normie level shit like we kind of had in three but give me something real surprising give me that rocketeer level give me that uh treasure planet world atlantis then i'll freak out fuck yeah mike let's do a fucking treasure planet level i love that level with a great gonzo summon oh you bail on we're not gonna we're not gonna get a muppets world fucking better uh muppets christmas carol world where uh it's it's screws as your party
member well hold on okay here here we go michael it's fantasy book this bad boy all right the last kingdom hearts game i played was the rhythm game right memory Memory of melody or melody of memory.
Nobody knows. One of those.
Over three, six, two.
What we do here, we have a world, and we embrace the beautiful world of DCOMs. And we have a high school musical world.
That's pretty cool.
Why the hell not? I think that's a good idea.
I want to hear Donald Duck do bed on it.
You want a basketball minigame there?
Fuck yeah, I do. I want to hear Miss Piggy do cups.
That's pitch perfect.
That's pitch perfect.
but I would also like that.
What's the difference guys?
Well I don't think Disney was involved in that one.
Okay. Oh Grug says make a hat with Backler's head on it so he can wear his head on his head.
Dan needs a classic Royal Rumble poster but every wrestler has his face.
Okay. Where am I in adding these merch ideas?
Where would my face be?
When Poochie isn't in the scene the other characters would be asking.
Yeah exactly. Oh I wore my itchy scratching Poochie shirt yesterday.
day. Shit. Then Ricky B says, I've been watching Jeff Bacalar podcasting for nearly 20 years.
Love you guys, people.
That's nice. 20 years?
Jesus Christ. Okay, I need to sit down.
You are. Well, luckily you are.
Oh, thank goodness.
That was easy. Scott Wonder from Dapp White Jerry.
Mike, I need to know what you've listened to more.
The Windbags Fork It Up For Mitch song or the Mike Minotti song Alex Billion.
Good question. God.
That's rough The windbag song that was your ringtone Wasn't it or your alarm No That's a funny idea I never did that though No The Alex Pagnotto song would be played at me all the time But I would watch that Fork It Up for Bitch thing Quite a lot Quite a lot Shouts to Alex Two musical geniuses The windbag oh my god He's still doing it Please check out the windbag he's great once we get settled here again we can talk to windbag again his breakfast scene which still haunts my memory all right Mikey is that it looks like that's it thank you everybody all right folks thank you for your support once
again bombcastgiantbomb .com send your emails in we appreciate every single email as well as every single YouTube super chat kisses on the mouth for that folks this is gonna be a fun fun fun if not hectic week tomorrow we will be talking over the state of play maybe a three -man band for that Jimmy Jam we'll see if we can dig up any other friends I want to sit down with us because this is summer game fest week it's Jeff Keighley summer birthday Jeff Grubb is already in Los Angeles Dan Riker you're flying down to sunny SoCal tomorrow mm -hmm mm -hmm there we go Thursday no dump truck this week because we're
gonna be getting things sorted still going to be traveling I believe that's when the rest of the crew heads down except Mike Minotti who's going to stay where he's at for his Switch 2 but then is anybody else even actually getting a Switch 2 anymore I didn't try I have a tracking number now mine's going to come while I'm gone I bet I'm not sharing no one better be like can I look at your Switch 2 because I want to play Mario Kart 2 we will all play fun games on my Switch 2 I wonder yeah you guys seem to think there's gonna be plenty of downtime i don't understand this is the first major console
launch in years bacalar you know for next week yeah that's for next week uh you could probably charge your phone at a trader sam's jeff grubb um uh and then fridays when it all starts baby because we're talking over the uh summer game fest presentation as well as night one of giant Bomb at night.
Saturday we're going to have night two.
We're only doing two nights this week.
Giant Bomb at night.
We've got a lot of fun special guests planned.
Shouts out to Jeff Grubb for coordinating the couch segments.
Shouts out to everyone here for all the planning and hard work we've been doing for Summer Game Fest in preparation for that.
I'm still terribly nervous about how it's going to look, but we'll get there, baby.
Sunday i forgot to add this on the schedule but we will also be talking over the microsoft presentation uh i believe that is 2 p .m in the afternoon i want to say uh and then god yeah look forward to a bunch of fun stuff coming out of sgf we're working our darndest to make sure you get a bunch of content in your eyeballs and your ear holes and your heart uh folks anything else popping I think the Microsoft thing is 10 a .m. Pacific.
Never mind. 10 a .m. Yes, store .giantbomb .com.
Head over there. We've got a bunch of new shirts and a lovely tote bag to put all your shirts in when you're going laundry or you're going grocery shopping.
It is my dream to be a farmer's market baddie, so I'm going to get this tote and then do that.
I'm going to put all my locally grown organic veggies in there.
I'm going to get my carrot tops, put them in there, some fresh blueberries, put them in there.
And you, too, can be a farmer's market baddie wherever you're at with this, what is it called again, Mike?
Tote bag. Now, what is the name of the tote bag?
Pipe it up, brother, come on!
Mitch on Mars! Mitch on Mars!
Look at him. He's that character from the hit PlayStation 1 video game Rascal in the pose of Dr. Manhattan hanham from the hit comic book and movie and a tv show maybe people watch i don't know if it was popular or not were you talking about the tote bag i had spaced out yes i was talking about the tote bag okay that's good then everyone should buy the tote bag it comes in pink or black i kind of like the pink it reminds me of that scene in the rugrats where tommy pickles was getting weaned off the bottle then he had a nightmare and all the bottles were stuck in this kind of weird sandy pink stuff
and then a giant sippy cup attacked him and he was scared but then a bigger bottle super hero came and killed the sippy cup murdered him by shoving him into a valley and then um the big cup was like you can drink me tommy you're not too big for me and tommy pickle said bottle and uh it was fine oh now we should totally have the five of us drawn as the rug rats as rug rats Mikey could be Tommy Pickles Backlars Chucky Backlars Chucky Chucky's got too much hair No one knows So there's no way to check this Alright gang We'll probably have a Bobcast for you Next week, next Tuesday as well After we
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