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Welcome to the Allie on the Run show.
I'm your host, Allie Feller, and this is where I talk with people who are doing exciting things on the run and beyond.
From professional athletes and celebrity runners to the everyday amateur and back of the pack runner.
We are here to celebrate everyone and anyone who enjoys a life on the run.
So, whether you're running towards something big or away from something that's been holding you back, I am here to hold your hand and help you pick up the pace.
My guest today is my friend, Janae Barron.
You know her best as Hungry Runner Girl.
Janae is one of the OG running bloggers.
She has been blogging since the early aughts and is still going strong.
And Janae is one of the nicest people you will ever meet.
And it is so genuine.
Janae has the biggest heart and I feel so lucky and grateful to have connected with her back in 2010 and to still have her in my life.
So this conversation was really just an excuse for us to catch up.
In full disclosure, my brain is simply not where I want it to be these days.
Even on my best days, chemo brain is still a very real thing.
So it takes the pressure off a bit when I can just bring my friends on the show.
And hopefully you're enjoying getting to hear from them as well.
I may not be firing on all cylinders right now, but I have a heck of a crew helping me get back on track amidst the brain fog.
This conversation takes all kinds of twists and turns and tangents.
Janae and I talk about the good old blogging days and the regrets we have from that time.
And we talk about Janae's newfound love for trail running and racing.
Plus, detours to dissect our favorite recent documentaries and so much more.
Please join me in welcoming Janae Barron to the Alley on the Run show.
I can't believe I get to be with you as we know this about Taylor now.
Monumental day.
Mere seconds before we started recording, Taylor and Travis just broke the internet.
By the time this comes out, people will be like, we're on to the next thing.
But wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
We get to share this moment together.
We get to share this moment.
Trying to share this moment with Andrew, he would just roll his eyes at me.
Beck, he doesn't care.
Brooke's at school.
She cares.
But nobody here cares.
So thank you for doing this with me.
You and Brooke will get to talk about it later, because I'm sure they made an announcement at school probably.
School.
I should check my email.
She's probably emailed me by now.
This is a big day.
Big day.
But mostly, Janae Barron, welcome back to the Allie on the Run show.
It's been years.
It's been too many years.
Let's not sugarcoat it.
This is me being so selfish and just wanting to get to chat with you and catch up and see your happy, beautiful face, because your existence is good for my soul.
So thank you for doing this.
I mean, we've been in this together for a long time.
A long time.
Yeah.
I know.
We first met in Las Vegas.
I was there with chocolate milk.
I didn't No, that was a sponsor, but it was a sponsor back then.
Do you remember when chocolate milk was sponsoring people?
Oh yeah.
You were all drinking milk.
It was great.
Okay.
You know what I was talking about?
So Emily Howland was up last week.
She brought me to chemo.
Amazing.
And we spent a decent amount of time reminiscing and we were talking about do you remember when everyone was wearing sparkle skirts and everyone was sponsored by noon?
Like that was back.
That was like those were the days.
Yeah.
That was like before Instagram.
That was purely like blogging.
Blog and Twitter.
Maybe a little Twitter.
Yeah.
We all loved Twitter.
So it is interesting because now and I wanted to ask you about this at some point during our chat but you know obviously, in a million ways the landscape has changed and what things are like you are like one of the OGs who's still going, like you're still blogging.
You're still there.
But well, so that's what's so interesting is like for us.
It's like our.
I always feel like our communities have grown up with us.
Right.
So like I don't have, I mean, I'm sure they're out there, but I don't think I have people following me who are like 22, fresh out of college, figuring out running.
I'm like, no, I think they're fellow, like mostly moms in their 30s.
Half of us have gone through divorces together.
Yep.
We're in this boat together.
Kids, sending kids to school.
Yeah.
And so I watch like, you know, I watch the like, especially the Utah runner girlies.
Oh, they're so cute.
And they're just, they're fresh.
They're energized.
They're going mile one, mile two.
Mile two.
I tried that once.
How did it go?
I got mile one out, and then I was like, this is ridiculous.
I don't want to focus on the run.
But they do it so well.
Yeah.
And they're always in matching outfits.
I know.
Do you know them?
The outfits are to die for.
Okay.
So I see them in our canyon often and they're just so cute, jealousy.
The one thing I am like so jealous of them is their closets like seeing their running clothes hanging up.
Have you seen their closets on Instagram?
I have, and I am equal parts horrified by it and it's my girl porn.
I don't hate, it's your girl porn, It surely is.
Cause I can't blink.
I'm just like, I'm in shock that something like that exists.
So while I go into my closet and my drawers are just like crumpled up, like everything's just one ball of wrinkles.
So yeah, it's impressive.
I'm jealous of, of the time and the energy.
Honestly, we were once that we were for that.
And now it takes me 200 milligrams of caffeine to start the run.
It takes me hiring an editor to post a reel.
I posted like I wanted to post a little video of what it looks like to do cold capping during chemo.
And I had to send the videos to my podcast editor and was like, can you make this into a reel?
Because that's above my pay grade.
Wait, are they making them or are they?
No, I think they do it all.
They make it all.
They're young.
They're born knowing how to do this.
It was like last year that I figured out people were like filming influencers on their runs.
I had no idea.
I had my husband on a bike, like actual people.
And I'm like, Cause their stuff looks so good.
I will never have that.
My, my camera phone has like, the screen has like candy on it and smudges.
Like I can't do that while you're doing great.
I am so happy for them.
And they just, they look even more beautiful in person.
Yeah.
I'm telling you.
So do you, so do you?
But we really I mean, Emily and I talked a lot about like this sounds like we sound so old right now, but like the good old days, right.
When we were all just like earnestly blogging and commenting on each other's blogs all the time.
We also, we did a lot of Googling and a lot of texting people.
We know whatever happened to skinny runner.
Do you know, are you in touch with her?
The last I heard from her was this was after she ended her blog.
And it was right when I like got my, It was a single mom and divorce.
And she sent me a garment.
She sent me like her running, like a really nice running watch, like just to help out.
Cause I blogged like, oh my gosh, my watch is malfunctioning.
And she just sent me one. such a good human, but I would love to see where she is now.
I'm guessing she's in Alaska just fishing and living her best life, living her best offline life of offline.
Yeah.
So but it I mean it is really cool that you're, you know you're still doing this, and doing it in a way that I'm guessing feels authentic to you and what your life looks like, which I think is pretty cool.
Yeah.
I think I, I love blogging because I can just sit down and blog.
I don't feel like it's sometimes the other things.
I feel like you have to be on it all day, like Instagram even.
I feel like you have to just be like constantly keeping up with the algorithm.
And so it doesn't ever feel.
Blogging just feels natural to me where it's like Oh, I'm going to sit down and journal about my day.
And it's Let's see if anyone reads it anymore.
But no, it's still going.
15 years, Allie.
That's amazing.
Of blogging.
And I know that you said we met in person in Vegas and I'm sure I've told this story here before when you've been on the show before but our first, if you could call it an interaction you sent me an email in 2010 or no, it would have been 2011.
At that point, the beginning of 2011, when my boyfriend broke up with me and I was so sad and I wrote a sad little post about it.
And you sent me an email that was just like so nice.
And I remember being like, wait, hungry runner girl sent me like, how does she even know who I am?
And that to me, is like that's.
So you, because you could have, like you could have written a comment that other people would have seen.
You could have posted something whatever like.
To me it was just like oh, she's not doing this to try to have other people see that she's a nice person.
She's just a nice person.
And you sent me a very sweet email.
You're so kind.
And then fast forward more than a decade later.
All these years.
I was going through a hard time and I Googled.
Well I, or I like, searched on your blog and this was two years ago.
Searched on your blog and was just like.
I want to go back and read what it was like for Janae when she was going through her divorce.
And when she was a hard time, was going through a hard time and it brightened.
Even though those posts now are so like they were, so long ago that you've written them they've, even years later, brought me a lot of comfort during a hard time.
So, even if you didn't know it, you've always been there for me when I've been having a hard little, broken heart.
I have the softest place in my heart is reserved for single mothers.
Like there is, there is nothing in the world as hard, but as beautiful.
Like I look back at those years with just me and Brooke and I'm like those were actually my most sacred years of life.
Like I don't want to go back and relive because that was really hard.
But also like I get goosebumps even thinking of like that bond.
There is nothing like it and there's nothing more sacred.
That is the only word I can use to describe what you're in right now.
You are in the thick of it and you are doing the most incredible job on the planet.
Well, that's very kind of you to say, what would you say?
Because I'm sure there are people listening to this right now who are at their whether they're at their rock bottom or they're just in a really hard season of life.
What would you say to them?
I probably said this on our last one, but I like believe it down to my core.
But the sun always comes up.
Like I just remember being on these dark runs in the morning alone crying, like it was too early to call my brothers and talk to them on the phone about what I was going through.
And so I'm just alone, dark outside.
And like the sun creeps up like, no matter what, it always came up every single time, no matter how dark it was, how grim everything seemed, how alone I felt like the sun is truly my beacon of hope.
And I think that, Nature in general is kind of the beacon of hope for me.
And seeing how it all comes together and how it all works out.
No matter what seasons are put through, my trees are put through these winters, year after year after year, and they're still standing.
And their roots just get deeper and stronger.
And they grow with the wind and the snow and the rain.
And it's just amazing to put myself into nature and think.
OK, that's what I'm going to do.
Like the storms are going to come, but I'm just going to like dig in deeper, if that makes sense.
So nature, get out of nature, touch grass.
That's the thing now.
Have you heard that?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
My kids are telling me now you need to go touch grass, mom.
Like I was out rolling around in the dirt all day.
But yeah, so I hear that often.
I love it.
Phrases I get from them.
Oh, I'm sure.
I'm really growing into it.
All right.
So what's the status at home right now?
Is everyone back to school?
Have we sent everyone off?
Everyone's off.
Well, except for Beck.
Wild.
The drama I get every day, Allie, of what I get to hear what's going on in school.
I live for this.
I love the tea.
They know if they share some tea from, like their teachers or their friends or people in the hall, they're going to get more dessert and they're going to get a better day.
I love hearing it.
Is that so horrible?
No.
We all get so fun.
It's so fun to hear the trauma that goes on in this second grade class right now.
It's.
Also that Skye is in second grade is insane.
I remember recording with you when you were pregnant with her.
You were like I think at least 37 weeks pregnant with Skye and we recorded because I remember afterward you were saying you were like I'm so short of breath and I hope this was okay because you were like super pregnant.
But then you sent her this cute giraffe when she was born that my kids still play with all of the time.
They love that giraffe.
So that is still a, Oh, is this the one that Allie gave us?
Yep.
So when they hear your voice, when I'm listening to your podcast, it all comes full circle.
The giraffe girl.
So thank you.
I'm happy to be the giraffe girl any day.
So, other than Taylor and Travis getting engaged and the kids being starting the new school year, what is something that's making you happy right now?
I am excited about the marathon again.
This is as of like 36 hours ago, but I want to run a marathon again.
And I thought I never would, which is exciting because I'm like, that's such a big part of who I am.
And it was gone for so long.
It's fun to like feel that excitement build up again.
And like, which one am I going to do?
How am I going to train?
What gels am I going to use?
You know, it's fun.
We're such nerds, but we love this.
Where did this come from?
Was this just one day you started feeling the itch again?
Or was it seeing the announcements for who's running Chicago in New York?
What made you start to feel the little itch that you want to scratch?
Okay.
So I think it's because I've started doing speed again with my friends that are training for marathons and my back isn't hurting doing them.
And I'm like, I thought I was a lost cause.
I thought that anytime I'd start doing the speed stuff again, I would, you know, it would hurt.
And so it's kind of like, okay, I can do this.
I can, I'm going to lower my mileage a lot to try to like keep my back healthy and things.
But yeah, it's just this idea of like, oh, I thought I was done.
I thought I was out.
But I'm here again.
And Ali, that's going to be you.
Oh, I had that thought earlier today where I was, like you know, what would be so cool is like if I was able to train for and run a marathon, like while going through chemo, just because, like this regimen I'm on is going to be years long.
This isn't like a short training.
So I was like, what if I was able to do that in a way that felt doable?
And then I tried to go for a run today and I like, I couldn't even run 400 meters.
I had to stop and walk.
And I was just like, okay, maybe a 5k, maybe a 5k would be fun.
Okay.
Works through this and you are still running.
You're going out.
I'm impressed.
You're hiking.
We were out hiking last weekend.
Okay.
That hike was so doable.
Cause I am someone who I say that I love hiking.
The truth is I love a view.
I don't love the actual hike.
And I always get to a point where I'm like a little bit in and I'm like, are we there yet?
Like, I don't love walking uphill.
It's very hard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
The candy doesn't help.
What did I bring?
I don't remember.
I know I made a peanut butter sandwich.
Oh, no.
Bring PTOs.
Bring PTOs.
Bring Swedish Fish.
More fun food.
Oh, true.
Yeah.
Well that melts.
I know.
Okay.
But you got to bring more fun food in order to really enjoy it.
Well, you've been, you're a trail girly now.
And so I want to hear more about that, about what life is like now on the trails, and all of this is to say, you are and this is an outside observer who has been following along for a while but you to me seem like such a different runner and than the hungry runner girl of 2011, of 2013, of even 2015.
And I want your read on that about how you see yourself and your relationship with running now versus you know back when you first started blogging and sharing all of this.
Okay.
So I think the difference is I'm, I'm not disordered runner.
Is that the difference?
I was literally, I was talking to Andrew about this the other day where I'm like, it's so great.
I can just take a day off in the middle of the week and I don't care.
Like it's fine.
And I'm like, that is not me.
That is not the 2011, 2015 runner that I used to be.
And it's such an interesting shift, even to be like.
I used to not think a five mile run was a run, but now I'm like no, that was a full run.
That was for me personally, not for anyone else.
My rules did not apply to another soul on the planet.
I was there cheering them on to take a rest day.
But for me, it was like, You don't take a day off unless it's Sunday or you know what I mean?
You need your one day a week.
But now it's like, oh, I want to take a Thursday off.
I'm going to take a Thursday off.
But I think also the aging issue of like I listen to more and more podcasts about like.
What we need to do is for aging and losing muscle mass and our bone health.
And I'm like I'm pretty obsessed, I guess, with that side of like.
No, I got to get strength training.
I got to run a little bit less as much as I want to run more.
I got to do these things because I'm like, I want to be running when we're 80.
And I didn't think about that in 2011.
It was the here and now of I want this goal.
I better do whatever it takes to get there.
And now I'm like, I just want to keep running forever.
Yeah.
I think about all of our like broken little bodies back then, like the amount of pain that I would run through just because I was.
It was such a compulsion and I was yeah, I was obsessed.
Like we were all, it was so prevalent and we were all in that cycle.
I appreciate what you said that the rules didn't apply to anyone else.
Cause I was the same.
It was like, no, you have to take rest days.
Like no big deal.
And then I'm sneaking off and like taking three classes at crunch fitness after I already went for a run that morning.
How do we do it?
Why did we do it?
Why did we do it?
Andrew always says the scariest moment in our marriage was last year. at the St.
George marathon, when he's at mile 18, he's ready.
Like, okay, I got this gel for you in this bottle.
And can I cheer you on?
You got to hit more miles or whatever.
And I get to him and I'm like, I'm done.
I'm getting in the car.
And he said it was the scariest moment of his life because he was just like, no, you don't stop.
Like you push through anything and you're like, you're determined to get your goal.
And it's.
It was like the first time of him really seeing me be like.
No, I care about my body way more than a stupid race time.
Like races are so fun and they're great.
And I love goals, but like never am I going to.
I'm not going to injure myself to get to that anymore, you know.
And so it's fun.
I, I feel like it's, yeah, it's, it's running for a different purpose than I think I used to. you know, what helped?
I mean, I know you said you've you listened to all these podcasts about like, really taking care of our bodies.
George, when you had big goals and you trained really hard and then it wasn't the right day.
Right.
And there were a lot of factors going in that.
But When did you notice that shift happening of having a better relationship with running?
I think getting to know myself better.
I think we all do that as we age.
I think that's just part of our development, is like learning more who we are and that We're so much more than running where I'm like.
I think running used to just be my whole identity and motherhood, you know, but I'll like it was the thing I was and that's what I did.
And now I'm like Oh no, I've got.
I mean, me and Taylor are sourdough chefs together.
Which is found out that she's also into my same hobby.
I bet she's been on my blog to see my beautiful oats.
No, but like just learning, like there's so much more to me that I don't have to like hurt that bad anymore.
Like I'm doing this because I love it and it's good for me and things.
I'm not doing it because it defines what I am.
It's it's just a little part of me and there's so much more.
And also just my girls, they're getting, Brooke's a teenager now.
Like I better be a good example.
Like I better.
I am not going to be the reason that my girls are struggle with things that I've struggled with because of my example.
You know, I want to show them, no, it's, it's time to call it a day.
Like tap out.
Oh yeah.
Did that answer it?
I hope.
Yeah, it did.
And I, I mean, I love that piece about setting the example.
Like it's not, and that's something I tried to think about too.
Like it's not like just, or it's not even necessarily what we say to our kids.
It's what we're doing, like they're seeing it and they are little sponges, the things that come out of annie's mouth.
Sometimes i'm like how did you even notice that, or see that, or like that you're attention to it, like they are so aware and intuitive.
Um so yeah, I think about that a lot, even though not afterwards.
Knox was like cause, you know the thing that kids are saying like Oh, I'm going to go cook it or whatever.
Do you know that slang?
We're not there yet.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that's the thing.
They're like, Oh, I cooked it today at soccer or whatever.
He's like, you didn't even preheat it.
So, you know, It was kidding, but they gave me a hard time.
But at the same time I'm like no, they'll look back and see like you don't have to injure yourself to prove anything to anyone.
But people love you more when you fail.
I feel like people actually like nice because we all relate and they're yeah, they're like.
I don't think it's a good example to get on here and say I ran a marathon injured.
Everyone clapped for me.
Like, no, that's not what we clap for anymore.
We clap for making the healthy call.
Yeah.
Oh, I love that.
I know.
I still I don't like when we see someone out there who's like I mean, and people do it and teach their own.
But, like I remember, a couple of years ago, someone was in a boot and crutched a marathon and everyone was like wow inspiring, amazing.
And I'm like, oh, my God, why did you do that?
Why?
No, no, no, no, don't.
I know.
I know.
But 2011, us would have.
100%.
Ellie, you and I would have.
100%.
I mean, I... We would have crawled.
Yeah.
We would have crawled.
I know.
I do think about that of like just the.
You know, I think now we're older and we see it and we see these platforms that we each have as a privilege and a responsibility.
Whereas back then it was just like, we're all doing the same thing.
He, he.
And now it's like no, like there's people watching, whether it's your kid or strangers on the internet like it matters.
So it's, do you ever feel, do you ever feel guilty?
That is one thing I do feel guilty about.
Like I feel remorse.
Okay, tell me more about that.
Just look back and sometimes I'll go back to old blog posts and I'll see what I posted of what I ate for dinner after like a 15 mile long run.
And I'm like, how dare I?
But I'm also like, oh, I was so naive.
Like I didn't see it for what it is.
But now I'm like, do I just go back and delete all those years?
Cause like, I do feel bad.
I thought I was doing the right thing, but I wasn't.
Yeah.
I think about it too.
Have, do you ever delete old stuff?
Have you ever?
I mean, I definitely did once I got divorced.
I think I spent like, I think it was like every night from like 12 AM to 4 AM.
I was going through old posts deleting things of.
I mean, you know it was healing to be like Yeah, you're not going to have this anniversary post on and things like that.
But yeah, I haven't I haven't deleted those, but maybe I should.
Should we?
I don't know.
I mean, I think a lot about. our responsibility and anyone who has a platform.
Um, and I think a lot about reader responsibility.
I do think there's a part that's like you know, if you're reading something from 2011, like hopefully people do look at that with a sort of critical lens of, is this still?
But I don't know.
I don't have the answer.
Um, I know I don't have time to go back and delete all kinds of things.
So I probably never will.
Um, But yeah, I mean, I do.
I think about it a lot with when I worked at Dance Spirit.
And it was at the same time.
It was the same time we were all blogging and I was super into running.
I do miss your bathroom selfies because your outfits were so fun.
I don't wear fun outfits anymore.
There's nothing to post now.
Yes, you do.
Every live show, I'm like, Kate, link everything.
Okay, keep going.
Oh, because live shows are when I get to play dress up.
But otherwise, yeah, no.
2011 Allie never met a pencil skirt from J.Crew Factory that she didn't love.
I mean, I went so hard for J.Crew pencil skirts.
Oh, the fuchsia one.
I remember your fuchsia one.
Oh, my gosh.
You loved that one.
I did.
It was so good on you.
I would wear it with a big, thick belt.
But when I worked at DanceCourt, our staff was all women just like me.
We were mostly young women in our early 20s and we were being tasked with putting out a magazine for teenagers.
Wow.
And we were all disordered at the time.
We didn't recognize it as that because of the cycle of feeding each other.
We had a whole fitness section of the magazine and we put out a column that was like I forget if it was lose your love, handle.
It was something about love handles.
And this was in a teen magazine.
And granted- it had to go through many levels of approval through editors who were much higher than I was.
But like, I mean, we still talk about that.
My best friend, Michael um, from Utah.
She and I talk about it and we're just like Oh like, so that I do, because that I know that those magazines, they weren't just going to those young dancers and but their parents were probably looking at them too.
And imagine being a mother whose teen daughter is reading a magazine about how to lose your love handles.
Like you write your, but I would be writing a letter to the editor.
Um.
So I think about that a decent amount and I have so much regret remorse embarrassment um, Whereas the blog I think.
I look at that and I'm like well, I've evolved.
So, yeah, I know that at least I've changed.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, it was it was so prevalent then and we were all doing it and that doesn't make it OK.
But it was it was we were all seeing how much the each other were running and working out and.
It seemed normal because our world, that was all we knew.
Like I, that was all I read every day was everyone's blog posts for the day.
And we were all doing that.
And so it did feel normal.
So I guess we, we didn't know.
And hopefully it can just be more of a thing of like, we're, we're nobody's perfect.
And we all like mess up a whole lot.
And that's something I try to make really clear with my kids is like every day I'm messing up so many times.
Please know I'm trying my best, but there's a lot of mess ups every day.
And I guess I can look back on the blog and just we were all going through that phase together of like learning how to treat our bodies and it and it was wrong for a while, but we all I mean we all had massive injuries and things that occurred because of it.
So maybe it's kind of a hopefully they're reading through that of like Oh, that plus that equals femur fractures, you know.
So maybe it's just, they had to learn through our mistakes.
Yeah.
Yeah, don't do as we say, don't do as we do, just do you and do better.
Yep, and do better than we are, and i'm sure now yeah, we're thriving.
Uh well, i don't know if i'm doing well, i'm doing medium okay, but none of those are your choices, right?
I don't have any injuries from over exercising.
No, that's good.
No right, these are bad luck.
Oh yeah, not consequences.
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Let's talk about your running.
Did you run today?
And I want to hear about it.
Oh, we did.
We ran.
I just did a workout.
We did a 10 mile workout.
Here's the thing.
The prescribed workout was 10 to 12 miles.
Would hungry runner girl have ever done anything less than 12 in the old days?
She would have done 13 and then she would have done 13.1 because you can't run 13 miles.
You have to do 13.1, which that I do still stand by.
Stand by.
Yes.
But no, today was 10.
I'm like, no, I'm 10 feels right.
So a fart lick with a five minute, four minute, three minute, two minute, one minute, and then back up to two three four five, which the cut down we realize is way more fun than going back up.
How nice is it to go like oh, I've only got to do a three now and two and one, instead of climbing back like oh, I've got to do five minutes.
So it was fun.
It was good.
It's perfect weather right now in Utah.
We're just cooling down.
Things are good.
OK, so I want to hear a little bit more about the group that you run with.
We talk so much about how I feel like a common narrative is like it's hard to make friends.
So let's hear about these athletes that you train with, how you found them and what your group is like.
OK, so we have currently a group of women that all of our kids are just now in school and we're not working outside of the house right now.
And so we can go run at 9 a.m.
And I feel I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I'm running at 9 a.m. every day.
Why are you?
Okay.
Do we need to unpack this?
Why are you embarrassed to admit it?
You need to unpack it because...
So many years I've done the five 36 AM thing.
And now I don't, I can't get out of bed before 7 AM.
Like it's not possible anymore.
Okay.
So is it an aging thing?
Can I blame it on aging?
It's not laziness.
I had this exact conversation with my cousin this morning is I she called me as she's on her way to work in her office job, her very important job.
And I'm in jammies having just risen and she was like, what are you doing?
And I was like, I woke up at seven today and granted like Annie's with her dad.
If she were here, I would have woken up a little earlier, because she would have been like Yeah, it's just me here right now.
You're going through chemotherapy, though.
So I feel like we can't compare notes here.
But I still have stuff I need to do.
Like, I should still be more of a functioning adult in the mornings.
And instead, I'm, like, rolling out of bed at 7.
I don't think any of us could do 1 of what you've done with what you've been through the last few years.
And I want to...
I don't have that.
I can't get out of bed.
Yeah.
But also, you know what it is like to be a single mother who needs to provide for her family.
So I got to get out of bed.
I got to get out of the point.
You've got to get out.
So we're running at night.
We get the kids all to school and then we go for a run.
I love that.
I know it's pretty magical.
I, but I'm like, you know what I have, I've earned this for 20 years.
I was waking up at five to run.
So that's where we're at now.
Yeah.
It's pretty great.
It's pretty magical.
And we've just met through my original.
You know Emily, who I've talked about for years and years and years.
We had a mutual friend when we both lived in California and, And then I moved here and Emily moved here a few years later.
And this friend said, Hey, you guys should start running together.
You know, this is great.
And we're like, okay, well like Utah is a big place.
Like, uh, we're not really at a point where we can drive to run.
You leave your front door.
Cause you've got 38 minutes, 79 minutes, whatever it is for that day to run.
And so it turns out she ended up moving five doors down.
So we were literal neighbors and, And it is so convenient.
And then we just added along the way.
It's been so fun.
That is the dream.
Really feel lucky for it.
It is the dream.
So we feel spoiled.
Of this group, are most of them, because we will get to this.
We've seen you out on the trails quite a bit, Janae.
Are most of these athletes, are they marathoners?
Are they people who are like taking this pretty seriously?
What is the general vibe among the group?
They're marathoners, but love a trail.
And you can't live here and not be out on the dirt.
And really just for injury prevention to marathon training is so much better when you can get on some like uneven surfaces and softer surfaces.
So everyone is happy to welcome Trail Days through their marathon training because it's like it's an excuse to like oh, we're just eating candy on the top of this hill.
Like, you know, it's just that more like it helps the monotony.
Like it helps all these type A marathoners that we are take it down a notch and just like enjoy it for what it is.
Which again, can you imagine 2011, Janae being told to just go enjoy the trails and eat some candy while you're out there?
Like wouldn't have happened.
Don't care about pace.
Who cares about pace?
You just go have fun.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, let's talk about, um, well, actually you said getting the marathon itch a bit.
And I know that on your blog, you mentioned maybe Houston, is that appealing to you?
What's what kind of race would you want?
Have you announced that that race?
Are you going to be announcing this year?
I mean, I feel like you're everywhere these days.
I feel like I'm nowhere these days.
I feel like, really?
Yeah.
I feel like I'm nowhere though.
I will be traveling September, October, and November.
I'll be at, I'm going to Boulder.
Um, In September, October, November, I'll be in New York.
So I'll be I'll be at those.
Who are you?
Okay, I texted you this before, but I need to say it on air.
I feel like you were born for this job.
Like when I watch you on television announcing at these massive races and I'm like that's my friend Ali on ESPN right now.
I'm like, really you were born for this.
Like never has there been a more perfect job for a human being than what you are doing.
That is very we all feel the same.
All the girls on the road that i run with, they're all saying the same thing.
Everyone, oh my gosh, everyone says this okay flattered, back to trails yes sorry okay um well no, back to.
What kind of marathon is appealing to you?
Like, are you looking for?
Like a flat fast, i want to go rip a fast time.
Or like, what is what motivates you?
Well, you know, I'm from Utah, which means I have to love downhill running.
That's just like it goes hand in hand.
Utahns love a good downhill canyon.
But I am very afraid of my back malfunctioning again with downhill.
So I'm definitely like so tempted to be like, oh, that'd be fun to just roll down the mountain.
But I can't for my back's health and Andrew won't let me.
So that's where I'm like, I think a flat marathon would be fun.
It's healthy.
I'm not going to like air anything.
Should I do Houston?
I don't know.
But then you're training through the Christmas and the Thanksgiving.
You're going to be running anyway.
That's true.
Let's be honest.
And it's before Utah gets really gnarly because January, February is when it's like gross.
Okay.
So Houston, I think we settled it.
I'm going to run the Houston marathon.
Let me, I'll tell Andrew after.
Perfect.
I think that could be great for you.
And it'll be cool.
Have you heard of it ever being hot?
Cause hot is my nemesis.
I can't run on a hot.
Okay.
No.
One year when I did CIM and it was like, it was like two degrees too warm for me.
It was really rough.
Yeah.
No.
That's where people go to run records.
Talk to your girl.
Okay.
Houston.
Are you so jealous?
She lives here.
I love that.
I love that you two are friends now.
Like the first time that the two of you hung out, I was just like this is the greatest thing to happen, because you two just have the exact right energy for each other.
And you're both very like.
I think about this a lot, especially with Kira, that like, when you have a public sort of persona which persona is not really the word I'm looking for but just when you know, when you're a public facing person, like I think everyone thinks of Kira as like oh, she's a jokester, she's funny.
But like when you actually know Kira, like the Kira that you hang out with, is she still like funny silly, goofy.
Absolutely.
But like, there's so much more to Kira that I wish everyone knew.
I wish everyone got to be like I wish everyone got to be a close friend of Kira, to like just to know all sides of her, which it's not that she's not sharing that.
And like, obviously she has a book coming out, which I think people are going to absolutely love.
I know people will love um, But with the two of you like you two are really similar in a lot of ways.
And so when you and I forget, I just remember her texting me one day that, like you guys got together and I was like yes, it's happening.
So am I jealous?
Yes.
And yes, we need you there.
Every time we're like, Allie needs to be here.
But it's so funny.
We'll go meet for acai bowls and she'll have just like won a crazy race and set a new record and like like Oh, I saw what was your track workout today and I'm like you mean my three by 400 that I ran it.
Like she's just so incredibly involved in like what everyone else is doing and wanting to like celebrate them.
Then I'm like no, we're celebrating you.
Like let's talk about you for a second because you just, you know, set another national record and Nike is sending you everything you know.
It's just crazy.
She's amazing.
Yeah well, we like a tangent Allie.
Oh, I prepared like four questions for this because I was just like we're not going to – this is going to go where it goes.
It's going to go where it goes.
But okay, so you're going to run the Houston Marathon.
That's what we're going to do now.
And you're spending time on the trails.
Yeah.
You won a trail race, Janae.
I did.
Congratulations.
I did, yeah.
Thank you.
It was fun.
It was –
The roadrunner side of me really benefited from it, because the first five miles are kind of like a gradual uphill on a gravel road.
And so I was able to kind of get a little distance there, because I wouldn't have won if it was pure trails.
The climbing of these crazy technical trails are not my strength, but I want them to be.
I'll get there someday.
But it was fun.
It was an adventure.
How were the aid stations?
Oh, they were magical.
There was just candy upon candy.
There was this river alley.
I came across this river.
Once again.
I'm from Utah, which means, hand in hand, you have to drink a lot of soda if you live here.
That's just part of your like citizenship in this state.
And I came across this river that was just full of cans of Coca-Cola, just perfectly chilled.
I don't think anything has ever tasted so good in my entire life.
Did you know that?
So I saw that and I saw the picture you posted and I was like, this is amazing.
Did you know, like, is that a big thing with that race?
Like, did you know that at some point there was going to be a river full of Coke?
No idea.
And I'm getting emotional talking about it, because it was just such, I was just so thirsty at that point and so hot.
And so it was just so hard.
And to see that I was like, this is a mirage or a direct sign that God loves me.
Both.
Were you, so you won, you were the fourth finisher overall.
Um, like you said, it was a course record.
Um, regardless of how many years the race has existed, it is still a course record.
It will be broken.
It's fine for now.
It's not, were you running alone?
I was which was funny because the day before I met with a course direct or everyone on you know meeting with a course director and I was like, what do I need like for wildlife?
Um, you know, there's bears, there's all sorts of things.
And he's like, Oh, you're going to be fine.
There's like a huge pack of people.
You're going to be fine.
You know?
So then I was able to go to bed feeling like I'm fine.
There's going to be people everywhere.
No bears are going to eat me for lunch tomorrow.
And then as I'm running along, I was alone like the entire time.
Yeah.
So I was perfect prey for whatever was out there watching me.
One of my favorite things you've ever posted was when you saw this moose.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, something's wrong with my friends because they were not afraid.
Like moose are scary.
They were right there.
Yeah.
Moose, especially a mama moose, would scare me a baby.
And they're like chill out, janae.
And i'm like no, this is the end, this is where i die, they're so fast.
So i was.
I had started climbing the tree next to me like i was that great.
They were like no, we can pass now.
So you know, i am dramatic, but at least i'm alive.
Still, a moose has not gotten me yet, So did running this trail race.
Did that make you want to do more trail racing, or do you think?
Yes.
Okay.
Tell me more.
Longer distances.
Okay.
Those of you listening that have done a hundred mile, 50 miles, all of these crazy, I cannot fathom.
I crossed the finish line 19 and a half miles and like went to the ground.
I was so tired.
So those of you that are doing these ultra marathons, how, how, how do they do it?
They train for it.
I know, I know, but that's just so far.
It's just a trail mile is so much longer and so much more work than a road mile.
And so the math isn't mathing to me where it's like okay, but you're doing 50 of these trail miles, or a hundred.
It's just, it's incredible.
I am in awe.
Same.
And all through the night, no sleeping.
Yeah.
They're.
They're a different breed, but I do think they're a different breed but, But I think they're the ones having the most fun.
I really believe that.
The people doing the 100 milers, it's a different kind of fun than my type of fun.
Than my fun.
But I do think that they're having the best time out there.
Way more fun.
I know.
And I think the poles.
I think I need to get some of the poles that I see people using.
Because I'm like I think there were definitely some spots where I'm like ooh yeah, I could use poles, little stabilizing force here.
Yeah, I wonder if I would be better or worse.
Like even I was looking back when we did this hike last weekend when Emily was here and there were people on the hike who had like trekking poles yeah, and I was thinking to myself I would.
I think I would need to practice, like I don't think they would make me better.
I think it would just be more things for me to trip over.
Another appendage to keep track of.
That's true.
And Allie, I fall literally nine out of 10 trail runs on my face.
Like the fact I haven't broken my front teeth out yet is a miracle.
I don't know what's wrong with me, but I just fall.
I'd probably fall more often with them.
They'd get tangled up in my legs.
And you fell during the race.
Yes, I fell backwards a few times, but that was.
The slope was literally so steep that I'm like you can't stay upright with this.
But I didn't fall forward, which.
And I think the problem is is when I'm running with my friends, I get so invested into what we're talking about.
Like it's the biggest, like we're solving the world's problems there on that run that I forget to watch out for rocks and roots.
Cause it's like when I'm by myself, I don't really fall.
It's when I'm with people that I'm like not paying attention, do a silly rock that nobody should trip over.
My children want to trip over it, but I do.
Kids are made different.
Kids are made different.
Yeah.
And if they fall, they're fine.
Whereas like now we're kind of at the point where like a fall isn't great.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
No, no.
And I bleed more, way more blood.
What are we doing?
What are we all doing?
OK, so I like this plan where we're we're happy on the trails and we're doing lots of trails.
Where would you say, where are you happiest with mileage wise and what actually to go back before you answer that in your highest mileage days?
Do you know?
And I'm sure you do.
What is the highest that you've peaked at for weekly mileage?
One week I did 90 and that was a lot.
When was that?
I have taken off Sundays every year for a while.
And that was 2018, 2019 ish.
But that was a lot.
I couldn't do that anymore.
There's no way I would break apart.
So is that when you were sub three training?
That was like sub 250 training kind of a thing.
But yeah, it was a lot.
I don't know how people do it.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
It's an, and they do it year after year after year.
Everyone's different, but I think I'm just breaking apart a little bit, and maybe it's, you know, consequence of our years and our twenties, where your body is still kind of breaking a little bit from those years of overtraining, but constant reminder of where is your happy place with mileage now.
I think 50 is the dream.
It's the dream.
It's the it's the place where it's like still.
I mean, the running is still calming my anxiety like there's that is not changed.
Like I still.
I still really love what running does for my like life perspective and calming me down and helping me like through things.
So that's still there.
That's that 2011 me is still rampant, but I can do it with a lot less now where I'm like yeah, 50 feels good.
Like I can still take a rest day.
I can still have a long run.
I can still get a workout, but like, yeah, 45, 50 is like the dream spot.
Okay.
Look at the anxiety chill, but yeah, but I'm not running so much.
It hurts, you know?
Yeah, good.
I like to hear that.
And then on Sundays, no running on Sundays.
No running.
And how do we feel on Sundays?
We took a 10 a.m. nap this last Sunday.
Is that normal, Allie?
I'm more like, how did your kids let you do that?
Oh, Brooke and I were watching The Office and Beck and Sky were playing Legos.
Andrew was at work.
And so...
Yeah, Brooke said that she looked over and I was snoring and a 10 a.m. nap happened.
That's amazing.
Also, I love that she's... Is she into The Office?
She's so into it.
It's the best thing ever, Allie.
That's a funny show for her.
It's hilarious.
And the fact we can reference... And a lot of the like crude, crude stuff goes over head still.
I mean, a lot of it still goes over my head.
But like the fact we can like joke about it or like pretend to be Michael and awkward social situations.
It's so fun.
I love that.
I love the teenager stage already, but I'm also like I chose to be a high school teacher, so I think I I naturally like really enjoy the teenage side, you know?
Yeah, so it'll be fun.
We're just entering it.
I will never forget that you were a driver's ed teacher drivers.
Ed andrew questions that every day.
He gets in the car with me.
He's like there's no way you taught children those who can't do that as i do exactly exactly, but i did.
I took burke and docks into a parking lot the other day.
Is that illegal can do?
We need to filter this part out.
But i took them to the.
It's fine, it's a parking lot, but i was teaching them how to drive in the parking lot and they're like we can't believe this was actually your job.
And I'm like, I know that's how good I am.
I was so, so they, they can, they can park now and they can drive around a parking lot.
This is illegal.
No, I was a driver's ed teacher.
Yeah.
And you're, you're fine.
They're not driving alone out on the roads, which then I would edit that out.
No, that probably would edit.
That'll never happen.
But until they have their permits, but I'm like, you know what?
And I'm going to do the same thing.
My dad made me drive 100 hours with him and I'm going to do the same thing with them.
So, you know, I was a good driver's ed teacher, but I'm not the best driver.
That's fine.
Those who can't do teach.
That's also core memories for them.
I have a memory of my dad in our Dodge Grand Caravan that we had of me in the parking lot at his office because we like went in on a weekend to help him.
He had to work.
So me and my brother went in with him and we got paid to like seal envelopes or something.
We probably made like a goal.
And I remember after that him letting me and my brother drive the van in the Hobart Taffa parking lot on like regional drive in Concord, New Hampshire.
Like I can picture it.
Stop it.
Core memory.
It was made.
I mean, wow, that's so cool.
They're like, should we tell dad?
And I'm like, we'll tell him after we can tell him after, which is a great life motto after.
So, okay.
You're watching the office.
What else?
What are you?
Are you watching, listening to reading, anything else right now that you're into and want to share?
I am reading like a mad woman right now, but Allie, have I, what was the book I just read?
The Bright Years.
Okay.
Should I read it?
No.
No, no, no, no.
Because...
I love the most depressing books.
Nope.
Can't do that.
And you're going through a lot right now.
So don't read anything I read because I don't know what it is.
I love to just sob to a book.
It's cathartic.
Well, okay.
Because that's low stakes crying.
And I actually agree with that.
Okay.
Low stakes crying is where you're crying over something that doesn't actually impact your life, but you still get the emotional release of crying right.
So it's crying over a TV show or a book.
This is it.
You're not crying over the consequential things in your life, but crying is a great release.
Crying feels good sometimes, but not when you're crying because of your own stuff.
Your dog died.
Yeah, that's terrible.
So yeah, low stakes crying.
You just solved everything for me.
Thank you.
Because I wondered, what is my problem?
Why do I like these movies and these shows and books that just...
That's all I used to hear me apart, but it's really just to release that emotion and then to move forward in life.
I think so.
I'm, I mean, this is not rooted in any type of science, but I think it is.
Okay.
It was called the bright years.
Okay.
I don't know why if you guys if people read, listening love a sad book but also a beautiful book about grief and about addictions and about family and forgiveness, like could not recommend it more.
So I love, I love a good book right now.
Um, and TV shows, all the documentaries, does that mean we're getting old?
I mean, the documentaries, I watched train wreck poop cruise on Netflix.
So are you ever going to go on a cruise?
No, no.
Well, and then the Amanda one or Amy, no, the Amy.
Oh, Um, Amy, Amy is missing.
Amy.
Amy's gone.
Yeah.
Okay.
Netflix.
All right.
So hopefully people have watched this.
We don't even know that.
Amy, Amy Bradley.
Was it Amy?
Yes.
That's her.
That is her.
Okay.
Maybe she's listening.
So little tangent here.
And if people listening, if you haven't watched it, you can just skip the next couple minutes.
But what do you think happened?
I hate an unsolved mystery.
I know.
I think she was taken.
I really do.
And i, the cruise director gives me the creeps.
I did not like him, did not like him.
He was so had no empathy.
No, no feelings.
Yep, arrogant.
I'm like.
Four thousand people paid to be on this cruise, so they need to be shown a good time.
I'm like also, four thousand people are probably empathetic and might want to like help right.
One life is worse making them wait to get off the cruise ship.
So I think he's fishy.
And I think, um, the musician, something's going on there.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Okay.
You think she was taken?
I think she was.
What do you think?
Oh, okay.
I go back and forth.
Part of me could see that.
And then the people who are like, I definitely saw her.
And I saw like, she had the tattoo.
Like the tattoo is a dead giveaway for the people to say they saw her.
And to me.
I keep going back to the fact that when she was out on the balcony after having drank a lot, that her shoes were still out there.
Because if she was going to go back out to meet up with someone, she would have put shoes on.
Like no matter, even when you're, if you're like, really drunk, and so the fact that the door was still open um, And the dad saying that he saw her in the morning and then didn't, I think he's wrong.
I don't think he actually saw her.
I think he thought he saw her.
Really?
Okay.
He said he like saw her feet in bed or something.
And she had just confessed her love and all of that.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I hate unsolved mysteries.
I hate like, I'm not, I won't do like murder documentaries, murder pocket.
Like that's not for me.
I don't like that for a lot of reasons, but I did watch Amy Brad, Amy Bradley is missing.
Is that right?
It was.
Yeah.
That one did suck me.
And I was walking on my treadmill and wanted something to watch.
And so I watched it.
And then four hours later, you're all that to say, yes, yes.
I'm watching some of the documentaries and I did watch the poop cruise one.
Didn't you watch the biggest loser one?
No, not yet.
That just came out.
OK, that's next on your list.
And did you watch that when it was out?
I didn't watch it.
I like remember it being, you know, in the sort of cultural geist conversation.
But I never actually watched the biggest loser.
No.
This podcast is a bunch of repenting on my side and like confessing, but I'm like I cannot believe I watched that because I watched it religiously and how degrading and it was just disordered.
You know the way they were having them.
So that's another one to watch.
Yeah, I do.
I saw that and I'll watch that.
You'll watch that one.
Yeah.
Text me after.
Do you watch anything?
Like, are you watching the summer?
I turned pretty, any like light relaxing?
Oh no.
Oh my gosh.
Because if I, I know it's because yeah, I fall asleep fast too.
Unless it's like a documentary I'm like super into, but yeah, no, I, I go horizontal and I'm asleep.
Yeah.
That's a very real thing.
Yeah.
Brooke was like, it's, It's so fun watching things with you, mom.
Cause I look over and you're asleep like every time.
So yeah.
I can't claim to be good at that, but it's fine.
You're doing great.
You're doing great.
I'm doing fine.
You are.
You're doing amazing.
And I bet you, I bet you know what's for, what's for dinner tonight.
I bet you've already thought about it and you know what you're feeding your family.
I actually haven't, but thanks.
Thanks for having that in too.
I like to see.
No, I haven't.
That was intended to be a compliment.
Like, I feel like you always have it together.
No, no, no, no.
That's also called Andrew.
Andrew does everything.
Andrew does way more.
A friend and I were just talking about this the other day.
Like we're just worried.
Our husbands never like realize how much they do way more than we do.
So he truly does more.
Don't he's not, I'm not going to let him listen to this, but he does way more than I do.
And he's home from work today.
So that's why I'm like, I don't have to think about dinner because he'll make something good.
Perfect.
Do you know that Andrew sent me a very kind message recently?
I forget if it was a text or a DM, but he like, since I shared this most recent diagnosis, he sent me a very kind message.
And I was like, man.
One of the good ones.
And then I feel bad.
When we started this zoom he was right there and I should have said hello, but I had just seen Taylor's.
And so we had to get right.
He had a lot of feelings.
Yeah, no, he'll, he asks about you all the time. like truly he's, he's in your corner.
So he's a good one.
And I love your family.
So since it's been a while since you have been on the alley on the run show, I thought that I should put you through my sprint to the finish questions.
Yay.
I love that most people are like, Oh, there's more.
No, I like this.
Okay.
Some rapid fires for you.
Starting with what, would your last meal on earth be?
Lasagna, garlic bread, dr pepper and a brownie sundae with caramel on top.
Favorite movie?
Not about this yeah um, oh gosh, i'll have to ask andrew, this favorite movie come back, okay.
Favorite tv show the office.
First thing you do if you won the lottery?
Uh, i'd buy a pool for my backyard because i've heard it's the golden handcuffs and i'll make my kids keep coming back for me and you have a pool.
I do have a pool.
Yes yes, it brings them back.
Okay, i love that.
Uh, window seat or aisle seat.
Window seat because?
Oh no no, i'll see, because i have to pee every hour on the air, can't be trapped.
Who would you want to play you in a movie?
Um Brooke, because she actually knows me better than I know myself.
It's wild.
It's wild.
Such a cute answer.
She knows me really well.
She can, she can predict what I'm going to do before I can.
So it's fun.
I love your scary.
Do you ever get told you look like someone famous?
Never.
Oh, I used to get Amanda Bynes, but I don't know how to take that.
I don't know if it was before the meltdown or after.
I don't know.
And I can see it for the meltdown.
I can see it like Amanda Bynes when she was in hairspray.
OK, there we go.
I can see that.
OK, not post meltdown.
What is your favorite pasta shape?
Costco has these ones that are kind of the curled ones.
Have you seen them?
I don't have a Costco membership.
I'm a Sam's Club girl.
OK, we don't have Costco here.
Why?
Well, we don't have Costco near me.
Why?
I don't know.
We have Sam's club.
Okay.
I love Sam's club.
Yeah.
I love Sam's club because it's less busy and their snack selection is 10 X. Yeah.
Okay.
Um, so no, I don't know the Costco pasta, but I'll send you a picture to say Costco pasta.
It's curly.
Most spontaneous thing you've ever done.
Um, uh, keeping this PV, right?
Oh, coming from the Utah Mormon.
No, I'm just saying, um, the most spontaneous thing I've ever done.
I did get in the water at the lake the other day.
It was cold and there's algae.
So I was proud.
Okay.
For what it's worth.
I don't have an answer to that question.
I am not as spontaneous.
Okay.
No, no, no.
You don't have to have answers.
Okay.
Okay.
What was your very first job?
Uh, Do you remember that place?
Fast food pasta?
No, we don't have that here.
No, we have everything cool in Utah.
Yeah, we do.
What's the place that I love?
What's the taco place that I love?
No, the bowls.
They make a bowl.
They make a bowl 180 tacos?
Did you go there?
No, it's like Mexican.
Cafe Rio.
I love Cafe Rio.
It's so Utah.
It is.
So yeah, I love it there.
When you were little, what did you want to be when you grew up?
A mom and a teacher.
So I did those.
Yeah, you did.
We go.
Favorite ice cream flavor.
I don't want to answer that because I just want a brownie with ice cream on top.
I don't vanilla, I guess I just need vanilla and brownie together.
Warm brownie, warm brownie.
Yeah.
Biggest pet peeve.
When you're running and a biker comes up behind you and gets mad at you, it's happening a lot to me.
I need to channel my rage. we can all just coexist.
Everyone just needs to be nice.
Can we just be friends?
Yeah.
Let's all do this together.
Yeah.
I'm with you.
Uh, if you could take a class in anything, what would it be?
I want to go back to school.
I actually want to go back to BYU and I want to study like the brain.
I want to study the brain.
I don't even want a degree.
I just want to take classes about the brain because I'm so interesting.
What's anyways, I love that.
Yes.
I'm once Beck is in school full time.
That's kind of.
My goal is to go back to BYU and take a class or two.
Wouldn't that be fun?
So fun.
You could get school supplies.
Oh my gosh.
And all my nieces and nephews are there.
So it'd be fun to just like walk around with them with my backpack and things.
Do they want you to walk around with them?
No, none of them.
All of them laugh at me with this idea, but I'm going to be there and they can't like Rants were out of the class just because their weird aunt is there.
Who cares?
No, you could carpool.
It would be great.
Yeah, and I'll buy them lunch after.
It's just wild.
And I know I'm dating all of us when I say this, but like to me, your nieces and nephews, like Curly is still just six.
They're babies.
Yeah.
And she doesn't have a real name.
It's Curly.
Like I don't even know her name.
Yeah.
I just know that as like.
I still call her Curly and she drives me places and like tells me about her boy stories.
It's so fun.
I love it.
Teenagers.
I do too.
That's I worked for a teen magazine.
Everyone teenagers get such a bad rap.
I love teenagers.
They're the best.
They're the future.
They are the future.
Okay.
This one might be hard.
I don't know.
Favorite candy.
Can you pick a fave?
I mean, PTOs probably currently.
If you could go for a run with anyone, who would it be?
Okay.
Okay. we were just talking about PTOs, but now my grandpa, he was like the biggest runner.
He like set state records for California.
He was like a cross country coach, track coach, high school teacher.
So I would love to go for a run with him.
I never got a chance to, but I do feel like he's at my races.
Yeah.
I mean, crazy, but I do feel like he's there though.
No, I, it might've been that same one with Emily.
I was talking about how like I don't believe in a lot of things.
Like I wasn't, you know, raised religious.
I'm not a religious person but, like I, believe in signs and I believe that our people are always watching us.
I can't explain it because I don't believe in a lot of things, but I do.
I have the part of my brain that truly believes that when our people are not with us anymore, they're like chilling in the clouds, looking down and watching.
They're like care bears.
They really are.
I totally agree with you.
Amen.
It's comforting.
In one word, how does running make you feel?
Calm.
Yeah, good answer.
Which isn't me.
All right, the last thing I need from you Janae, is to give everyone listening a reason to go for a run.
I think you should go for a run today because it will give you a brighter perspective on the world.
The world can seem so dark sometimes, but after a run...
And waving at different runners and seeing people out with their families.
It just brings it all together and is, like you know what this place is pretty great actually.
Pretty great.
Beautiful answer.
Janae.
I don't really know what we covered in this episode, but I know that I got to spend over an hour talking to my friend Janae.
And so that makes me happy.
I love you.
Enjoyed the conversation along the way.
You are, and you always have been, even on your darkest days, the ultimate like.
You want to talk about the sun coming up.
You are the sun, like you are the most sunshiny person I've ever known.
And to get to know you is such a gift.
So thank you for being exactly who you are and for sharing it with all of us today.
I want to give you a hug.
You know, what we need to do is we need to like rally the OG crew and go to Vegas for a weekend and like go to bed at a reasonable hour, but just like we all hung out in Vegas that one time.
I know, I know, I know it again.
So start the group chat, get it going.
You are the best.
Thank you for doing this.
Love you.
Thank you so much for being here for this episode of the Allie on the Run show with my guest, Janae Barron.
Shout out to all of the running bloggers from the early 2010s and shout out to all of those who read, followed and are still sticking around.
Isn't that the coolest thing?
When people tell me that they used to read my blog or that they were there for the bathroom selfie era or the I heart sweat era.
That is so cool.
Like so cool.
We've been through a lot together.
Whew.
Yeah.
I really do want to get all of the OG running bloggers together for a panel.
And I want to moderate it.
And I have a lot of questions, starting with where in the world is Skinny Runner?
Probably in Alaska fishing, living her best offline life, like we said.
Oh, so many thoughts, so many regrets, so many things we do differently.
But hey, we live, we learn, we love, we grow.
We're all in this together.
High school musical.
What is happening?
Someone take away my microphone.
Thank you for being here.
Subscribe, rate, review, do all the things.
And as a reminder, you've got this.
You're doing great.
And thank you for joining me on the run.
