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In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze.
Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop.
What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever.
I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing.
And immediately, the mask came off.
You're supposed to be safe.
That's your home.
That's your husband's.
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Hey, it's Joel and Matt from HowToMoney.
If your New Year's resolution is to finally get your finances in shape, we've got your back.
Prices, they're still high, and the economy is all over the place.
But 2026 is the year for you to get intentional and make real progress.
That's right.
Each week, we break down what's happening with your money, the most important issues to focus on and the small moves that make a big difference.
Kick off the year with confidence.
Listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is Dr. Jesse Mills, host of the Mailroom Podcast.
Each January, men promise to get stronger, work harder, and fix what's broken.
But what if the real work isn't physical at all?
I sat down with psychologist Dr. Steve Poulter to unpack shame, anxiety, and the emotional pain men were never taught how to name.
Part of the way through the valley of despair is realizing this has happened and you have to make a choice whether you're going to stay in it or move forward.
Our two-part conversation is available now.
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A new year doesn't ask us to become someone new.
It invites us back home to ourselves.
I'm Mike Della Rocha, host of Sacred Lessons, a space for men to pause, reflect, and heal.
This year we're talking honestly about mental health relationships and the patterns we're ready to release.
If you're looking for clarity, connection and healthier ways to show up in your life, Sacred Lessons is here for you.
Listen to Sacred Lessons with Mike Delaroche on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hello everybody, I'm Gemma Speck and welcome back to the Psychology of Your 20s, the podcast where we talk through the biggest changes, moments and transitions of our 20s and what they mean for our psychology.
Hello everybody, welcome back to the show, welcome back to the podcast.
It is so great to have you here back for...
A little special edition bonus episode talking about some crazy news.
I'm sure all of you.
I hope you guys know this by now, but The Psychology of Your 20s is officially on Netflix.
All of this happened so fast.
I didn't get to tell you guys the story.
I tell you guys everything.
I didn't get to share the juicy details and I want to share the juicy details.
And I didn't really get to address how this is going to change things for the podcast.
Spoiler alert it's not really going to change much, but this is just such a monumental moment that, For the psychology of your 20s,
And each of you have been there for whether you've been here for a month, whether you've been here for almost five years.
I don't know.
It just feels weird for something so huge to happen and to not give you guys a behind the scenes.
Look at what's going on.
I don't know what it means to get a Netflix show, like what that process looks like and just how I've been feeling as well.
It's obviously a huge personal change as well as a professional change and a change for us.
So yeah, this Sunday, this bonus episode, I thought I'd just sit down back where it dish and tell you guys what's been happening and how this came to be.
So yes, if you didn't know, if this is the first time you're hearing this, The Psychology of Your 20s is officially a Netflix podcast.
Let me get one thing out of the way.
That does not mean we're going anywhere.
The only thing it changes is basically that our episodes are no longer on YouTube.
Our video episodes are no longer on YouTube.
But if you only ever listen to audio and This is basically just a bonus for you.
Now you can watch it on the most popular streaming platform in the world, but you can also listen to it on Spotify, listen to it on Apple wherever you are listening right now, and nothing really changes.
Another thing to address...
I have had a lot of messages from people in Australia or in Thailand or in Italy being like I can't see it.
That's because as of right now, it is only in the US and Canada.
And I don't really know what their plans are to extend it.
To be honest, I'm kind of out of the loop, but as soon as that changes, I will let you guys know.
We are still posting like clips and stuff.
So if you want to see what the new studio looks like, it's pretty cool.
You can find that on Instagram and we're still posting like some shorts to YouTube, but basically nothing much is changing.
This is just some, just an extra way of like of the podcast being distributed and being able to connect with you guys.
I absolutely love our set.
I think it is beautiful.
There's so many little personal details in it as well that feel really special to me.
You guys don't care about that.
I want to tell you the story of how this freaking happened, because I've never heard anyone talk about what it means to to be on Netflix and like how people approach you with that.
How do you find out that that's going to be something that happens?
So let me take you back actually not very far, to like October last year, when I was still living in Sydney.
This was very out of the blue.
I'm just going to make that super clear.
I feel like that's very obvious from how I've been speaking about it.
I had no clue this was happening.
To be honest, I
I have been a little bit hesitant about doing video podcasts.
I always said, you know, the podcast is audio only.
I was very uncomfortable in front of the camera.
This was like my preferred format, just my voice.
You know, maybe it's because when I was like a kid somebody said I had a face for radio and I really internalized that.
But you guys know, I kind of started a YouTube and I started posting the episodes there and I was really getting into the swing of it.
I felt very motivated by it.
I I was.
It just is nice to learn a new set of skills right, and I feel like I've been doing this for a while now.
I wanted to try something else and kind of take it in a new direction.
So I was kind of posting on YouTube like one episode a week.
No, let's be real, no views.
It really felt like when I first started the podcast and I would like nobody was really listening.
It felt very reminiscent of that um, and then one day I get this call from my agent, my podcast agent who like, takes care of all the business side of things.
Actually, I got a message and she was like, hey, are you awake?
And I missed the message and I was like, yeah, what's up?
And she's like, I have to call you.
I've got some news for you.
And I was about to move to London in like the next two months.
She lived in London.
I was like oh, this has to be something to do with maybe she's staying in London for longer because she was planning on moving.
Like, I don't know what's going on, but like, it's a personal thing.
And so I call her that night and I'm like, Hey, like, what's going on?
You know, are you okay?
Like what's happening in London?
You know, thinking that's what it was.
And she was like, you need to, you need to sit down.
I just got off the call off the phone.
Like yesterday I got off the phone with somebody um with, And that I literally can't even.
This is so crazy to me, but Netflix is interested in signing your podcast for a video deal.
And my reaction to that was, that is not funny.
Please don't joke with me like that.
And she was like, no, that is absolutely what is happening.
No promises, but they're interested.
And this is moving really fast.
Bear in mind, this was in October.
It's January as I'm recording this.
And I was like, okay, well, let them know I'm keen.
Like, I'm not going to say no.
Let them know I'm totally down to do that.
And I told four people.
I told obviously Tom, my boyfriend, I told my dad, but I said don't tell anybody else.
I knew he was going to tell my mom, but I was like, don't tell anyone else.
And I called my best friend and was like, and she was with another friend of ours.
So I ended up telling them and being like, this might not happen.
Don't tell anybody.
I don't, I'm so superstitious about not talking about things until they actually happen.
I didn't want to jinx it.
I didn't want people to know.
I didn't want it to be like this was out there and that meant that it could get taken away.
And then that night I literally sat down and I was like, how do I respond to this?
I better just do more work.
This is very pathological for me, but I was like, oh, my God.
Well, if this is going to happen, I better prove that I deserve it.
I better work tonight.
I was going to clock off for the evening, but I better get back on my laptop and tippy-tappy away.
And I actually – this is crazy.
I actually made the – if you follow me on Instagram the psychology of skinny talk post which – crazy.
That is like my most successful post of all time.
It has 8 million views wild, but that literally that.
That is how you like.
If you want to go back and look at timeline I maybe I should go and look at it.
That is the date that I found out the date that I posted that.
And then I heard nothing.
I didn't hear anything for like I would say a month and I was like oh, this isn't happening.
I'm so glad I didn't tell everybody, I'm so glad I didn't make a big deal out of it.
It's not happening.
You know why would they want me like the podcast?
You don't know, I was just like I'm not a celebrity, not really that big of a deal, like I just make my podcast.
I live in Sydney.
I don't really live in the US.
Like I'm kind of out of like the, the milieu.
I'm out of like the the space that people who get these deals operate in.
I don't live in it.
Like, you know, it just didn't occur to me, right?
And I was resigned to the fact.
I was a bit disappointed, but I was resigned to the fact that, like this isn't happening and we can move on with our lives and we can start devoting time to other things that you care about.
And then suddenly we're packing up for London.
Our entire house is packed down.
We're in Melbourne with my family, dropping off my dog, saying goodbye to everybody that we love.
And I'm not making this up four hours before I get on the plane to fly from where am I Melbourne?
I was gonna say Sydney to fly from Melbourne to London I get this message and I get this email from my lawyer being like hey, are you ready to sign, are you ready to sign this Netflix deal?
And I was like, oh my god yes, it's happening.
Okay.
Like let's do it.
So I signed it.
And then I told my, I told my sisters I think my parents had told them, but I told my sisters who were there and I got on the plane.
Actually, I will say we did get upgraded to business and that just felt like a.
This is special because that doesn't happen to me ever really.
Like only if work is paying for it or like if someone else is paying for it.
So that was a nice start to like our London thing.
Anyways, we touched down in London.
Crazy story.
I think I've said this.
When we were on that flight, we found out, like that our accommodation, like where we were meant to be staying in London, had fallen through.
So I've literally signed this deal, being like I'm going to be on Netflix, gotten on a plane, left my entire life behind.
Whilst I'm on the plane, realized I'm landing in a city where I don't have anywhere to live And the Netflix thing like kind of went to the back of my, back of my mind.
Right.
I was kind of like yeah, you know, I have some time, because I genuinely thought that this wasn't going to happen until like the middle of the year, this year being 2026.
I was like, this isn't going to happen for a while.
I have time to just like relax into London, enjoy myself.
We find an apartment.
I find a temporary studio where I'm like, yep, this is great.
I can just keep recording here.
This is fine.
We go on holiday with my family.
And then, on the 1st of January, new year's day I get this email and this email is like so we're launching on the 26th of Jan.
We need all your episodes for January.
And I'm in Stockholm and me and Tom are about to go to Paris for two weeks to be like it's like our big trip, like our welcome to Europe trip.
We've got our accommodation booked.
We've got everything sorted.
We've literally booked wine tours, we've booked the Moulin Rouge, like we're doing all that stuff, and they're like so we need uh, we need you to be back in the studio and so literally we cancelled out, we cancelled our whole trip to Paris.
And I know like I'm not complaining.
Can you imagine if I was like Oh my God, I have to cancel my trip to Paris because my Netflix deal got in the way?
Don't worry.
That was an easy decision.
And um yeah, we got on.
We got on a flight back to the UK and just I just worked my butt off and just had to, just I just had to basically grind out like so many episodes.
Um, so I will say, if you've noticed, like I maybe I'm self-conscious about this, but if you've noticed maybe uh, slight decline in like episode quality um, I don't know, I feel like that's what.
That's what it is like.
I've just been working so hard and that has made moving to London difficult because I haven't really had time to socialize or to make new friends.
It's all been about this release and and when this is coming out, and yeah.
So I'm probably skipping a few things, but it came out five days ago Officially.
On Netflix.
I saw my face.
Have I watched an episode yet?
No.
It's the same reason I don't listen back to podcast episodes, which is ironic, because I started the podcast thinking that I was by this age.
I would have listened back to my first episode.
But I still, I don't think I have.
Maybe a little bit, but you know, okay, sidebar.
I have not watched an episode yet.
I've just been working, to be honest.
And this is the one thing I will say. there is no complaints here.
I'm incredibly grateful for this.
And it really doesn't just feel like my win.
It feels like a win for everybody who works on the podcast behind the scenes.
There's like three people, but you know, all of them work so hard.
It feels like a win for us, like the listeners that, I don't know.
I just, it, it feels like this is happening to a character that is made up of everybody.
I don't know who has helped me and So I'm very excited by it.
I feel very grateful.
But it has been a little bit sad, I guess, having such a big thing happen when you don't have any friends in the city that you're living in.
I have two friends here and they've been really busy and they've been really kind of you know, they've got their own lives and you know, the day that it came out I wasn't really able to see them.
So I like the day that it came out.
I actually just worked and I actually just sat at home and I had like a vegetable platter for dinner, which is, I'm not complaining.
It's delicious.
But it's been this weird thing where sometimes the biggest moments in your career and the biggest moments in your life are incredibly anticlimactic and not very exciting.
And you would expect them to be these marvelous, amazing moments, and especially since, like the only context I had for what it means to be on Netflix is like very huge stars who throw these parties and do all these things, and I was like well um, you don't realize, like they don't throw that for you, like you kind of have to do it yourself.
Um, especially since I'm not in the US, like I've just been kind of DIYing this whole thing like you, it's actually insane that they let me be on Netflix, because I
I don't, I really don't know what I'm doing.
And it is genuinely just like me and my researchers and like my, my producer who is in the US.
So I don't know, guys, they gave me the keys to the city.
I don't, and I don't really know how to run it.
So, um, I guess, yeah, my overarching feelings are just, this is amazing.
Thank you so much.
I'm very excited.
And it feels surreal.
And it feels surreal in a way that nobody could ever really prepare you for.
Where you have so much gratitude and you are so blown away.
But you don't know how to feel.
So you're just like, should I be feeling differently?
Like, should there be something more to this that I'm missing?
Like, am I doing this right?
And I think over time, like, I'll hopefully adjust.
But again, I want to say thank you.
And... this is an incredible moment.
You guys did this for me.
So wow.
I'm thinking of all the ways that this year I can hopefully give back to you guys and make sure that this is still the tight knit psychology of your twenties community that we know and love of wonderful marvelous, intelligent people who are here to grow and here to learn.
And I want to keep that.
I want to keep that intact, because that is really what makes everything work around here and why I love the podcast as well.
So for this year I'm super excited for you guys to be able to watch it if you are in the US or Canada and hopefully other places soon as well.
I'm also excited that we're going to be doing so many more live events and meetups and friendship making events to hopefully meet more of you and to be able to spread the joy and say thank you in as many cities as possible.
And I don't know, I don't really know what to expect from this year and from and from this change.
I feel like I'm still processing it and, as I'm talking about it, I'm like huh, I probably should have some.
I probably should know.
I probably should have some bigger plans, but you guys will be the first to know when I do.
And not to sound like a broken record, but again, you guys made this happen.
It's still going to be the podcast you know and love.
Thank you for the support that you have all shown it so far.
And if you have any more questions about Netflix and what that looks like, I will spill all.
I will tell you all the juicy details of those email chains and those meetings.
They've been pretty fantastic to work with so far.
Actually, really fantastic.
And it's as much as there have been like little hiccups just in terms of.
You know, It would have been fine if I was in Australia, right?
But because I've moved, it's been very stressful.
Yeah, other than that, it's just been a wonderful experience.
So that is the little bonus update from me.
If you have made it this far, leave a comment down below.
What previous episode of ours do you most want to see on Netflix?
But also, what city are you in?
So I can add it to our tour schedule, to our meet and greet, meet up schedule.
I really want to meet as many of you guys as possible and get out on the town.
Get out on the town.
See, I don't really know what I'm saying.
Netflix changed me.
Now I'm all corny and cliche, but yeah, leave a little comment down below.
Make sure you are following us on Instagram at That Psychology Podcast, following us on Substack.
We've just launched a new thing where we do a study of the week.
If you want even more psychology content, that is where you can find it, and until next time, you guys know the drill be safe, be kind, be gentle to yourself, watch the psychology of your 20s on netflix if you feel called to do so, and we will talk very, very soon.
So In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze.
Her husband Mike was on his laptop.
What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever.
I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing.
And immediately, the mask came off.
You're supposed to be safe.
That's your home.
That's your husband.
Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, it's Joel and Matt from HowToMoney.
If your New Year's resolution is to finally get your finances in shape, we've got your back.
Prices, they're still high, and the economy is all over the place.
But 2026 is the year for you to get intentional and make real progress.
That's right.
Each week, we break down what's happening with your money, the most important issues to focus on and the small moves that make a big difference.
Kick off the year with confidence.
Listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
A new year doesn't ask us to become someone new.
It invites us back home to ourselves.
I'm Mike Della Rocha, host of Sacred Lessons, a space for men to pause, reflect, and heal.
This year we're talking honestly about mental health relationships and the patterns we're ready to release.
If you're looking for clarity, connection and healthier ways to show up in your life, Sacred Lessons is here for you.
Listen to Sacred Lessons with Mike Delaroche on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is Dr. Jesse Mills, host of the Mailroom podcast.
Each January, men promise to get stronger, work harder and fix what's broken.
But what if the real work isn't physical at all?
I sat down with psychologist Dr. Steve Poulter to unpack shame, anxiety and the emotional pain men were never taught how to name.
Part of the way through the valley of despair is realizing this has happened and you have to make a choice whether you're going to stay in it or move forward.
Our two-part conversation is available now.
Listen to The Mailroom on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your favorite shows.
This is an iHeart Podcast.
Guaranteed human.
