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If you loved Sinners, Marty Supreme or One Battle After Another, you're probably pleased with how nominations unfolded for this year's Oscars.
Sinners alone picked up an all-time record 16 nominations, while One Battle After Another received 13.
And, as always, there's an eclectic mix of heavy favorites, left-field surprises and the dreaded snubs.
I'm Stephen Thompson, and today we are talking about this year's Oscar nominations on NPR's Pop Culture Happy Hour.
Here with me are my co-hosts, Aisha Harris.
Hey, Aisha.
Hello, Stephen.
And Glenn Weldon.
Hey, Glenn.
Kate Hudson.
Hey, Stephen.
So we are going to run down some of the major categories here.
We can't get to every category.
And we'll bring you our predictions in an episode that will run closer to March's ceremony.
But we wanted to give a broad sense of this year's major storylines, while also lamenting a few decisions we found baffling.
I'm going to start us off by running down the nominees for Best Picture.
There are 10 in all.
Begonia, Yorgos Lanthimos' movie, where Emma Stone's high-powered CEO is kidnapped by conspiracy theorists and accused of being an alien.
F1, Brad Pitt plays a veteran F1 driver who clashes with a young hotshot.
Frankenstein, Guillermo del Toro's take on the Mary Shelley classic.
Jacob Elordi plays the creature and Oscar Isaac is the scientist.
Hamnet.
A young English couple meets, falls in love, has children, and suffers an unspeakable tragedy.
One of them happens to be William Shakespeare, who goes on to write Hamlet.
Marty Supreme.
Timothee Chalamet plays a working-class heel, aiming to become a table tennis champion in the 1950s.
One Battle After Another, Paul Thomas Anderson's action thriller starring Leonardo DiCaprio as a washed-up ex-revolutionary whose past comes back to haunt him.
The Secret Agent.
A former researcher, is caught up in the political turmoil of the Brazilian military dictatorship in 1977.
Sentimental value.
Stellan Skarsgård is a filmmaker attempting to reconnect with his estranged daughters, and it proves that, at the very least, the tension between art and parenthood is complicated.
Sinners.
Ryan Coogler's movie finds Michael B Jordan playing twin brothers who open a 1930s juke joint.
An opening night does not go as planned when a bloodthirsty menace appears outside.
Vampires, we're talking about vampires.
And finally, Train Dreams, which follows the life of a logger and railroad worker in a rapidly changing America of the early 20th century.
You've got everything from F1 to Train Dreams and from Very Fast to Not As Fast.
What do y'all think?
Well, let's get our wins in when we can, right?
There's no bloated biopics this year that kind of soak up Oscars like a sponge.
I mean, Marty Supreme doesn't count.
But nobody put Gary Oldman under layers of jowls.
So let's take that as a win.
That's true.
That is a win.
And ever since the Oscars expanded the number of nominations for Best Picture, you've tended to see more genre fare, kind of elbowing its way into the mix, right.
So this year you've got horror, you know, Sinners and Frankenstein.
You've got science fiction for Begonia.
F1 is a sports movie.
And The Secret Agent is kind of a thriller.
There's genre fair, genre adjacent.
They're not melodrama.
They're not biopic.
They don't read as, you know, traditional Oscar bait.
I think that's a hopeful sign.
Yeah.
I mean, look, am I annoyed that I have to watch F1 now?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
I hear you.
But I'm also very pleased that I don't have to watch Avatar.
So you take your wins when you can get them where you can get them.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, I think what's interesting about this is that you know that widening of the Oscars umbrella now, which has been, you know, existed for a while.
It's nice to see something like The Secret Agent, which is a Brazilian film, in there.
I would have loved to see No Other Choice, the Park Chan-wook film, which I thought was fantastic.
The Korean film, that's really, really amazing, and I hope more people seek it out.
But overall, like Glenn said, nothing too surprising here other than F1.
Yeah, there were several international films in the mix for Best Picture this year.
The ones that got in were Sentimental Value, which we'll talk about a lot more, and The Secret Agent.
The ones that didn't make it into the major category, to the Best Picture category, were Surratt and It Was Just an Accident.
Both of those got international feature nods.
So that's okay.
But yeah, I agree.
No other choice got shut out of both categories.
That sucks.
Yeah, and not a great year for your prestige franchise movies.
Not only was Avatar almost entirely shut out, it kind of eked into technical stuff.
Wicked for Good shut out completely.
We'll get to supporting actress, but also not nominated for Best Original Song.
They were too greedy.
They should have just made it one movie.
I will stand by that.
I will die on that hill.
They got too greedy.
All right.
Well, let's run through the nominees for Actress in a Leading Role, starting with Jessie Buckley for Hamnet.
She plays a witchy young free spirit named Agnes who falls in love with William Shakespeare.
Rose Byrne for If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You.
Byrne plays a therapist shouldering all the responsibility of caring for her ill daughter while her emotionally absent husband is away for work.
Kate Hudson for Song Sung Blue.
Hudson plays a down-on-her-luck musician who teams up with Hugh Jackman to form a Neil Diamond tribute band.
Renata Reinsvith for Sentimental Value.
She plays a stage actress who reunites with her estranged father when he offers her the lead role in his next film.
And Emma Stone for Begonia.
Stone plays a high-powered CEO who is kidnapped by conspiracy theorists who think she's an alien.
What do y'all think of this field?
I mean, Glenn already mentioned Kate Hudson.
Look, I had seen her name starting to creep up in predictions.
So I guess I wasn't totally blindsided by this.
At the same time, her?
And look, I'm going to be fully honest.
I have not watched this movie yet.
So this is coming from a place of my own expectations or thoughts and whatever about what this movie is about and Kate Hudson herself.
It was a long shot, but it felt like a missed opportunity for Tessa Thompson to get in here, for Hedda Nia DaCosta's Hedda.
It's one of my favorite movies of last year.
And look, I know it's really historically hard for a black woman not named Viola Davis to get nominated in this category.
And, as history has proven, it's even more hard.
Difficult for one to actually win, because Halle Berry remains the only black woman to win in this category.
But I just Kate Hudson again, Haven't seen it, but there are like four other names, including Tessa Thompson's, that I would have cycled in here before I would put her here.
Glenn?
Yeah, I mean, Buckley and Byrne, certainly, and to a lesser extent, Stone were considered locks.
I mean, Reinsva was more an outlier, but she made it in.
Hudson?
Whatever.
One of those folks nudged Chase Infinity and Chase Infinity was in the mix in a big way.
For one battle after another.
For one battle after another.
So she was knocked out of this category, but she's young.
She's a star.
She'll be back.
Yeah, it's still unusual.
I mean, one battle after another received 13 nominations.
So it was a little bit of a surprise to see her nudged out here.
There was also some discussion of Amanda Seyfried for The Testament of Anne Lee.
She didn't get nominated either.
And I think, as we catch up with Song Sung Blue, maybe we'll be like look, Kate Hudson, a revelation.
I like Kate Hudson.
She's fun and glass onion.
But maybe we'll change our tune.
But that felt surprising.
The other thing I will add is that I do think we've kind of hit a point now where Emma Stone can get nominated for basically doing anything.
And this is not to take away from her performance in Begonia.
Not fair.
Not fair.
She's very good in this movie.
She's very, very good.
But then, I mean, we'll talk about this category later.
But then Jesse Plemons, I think, is also equally very good, if not more dynamic, I think.
He has more to do, at least, I think.
Emma Stone does in Begonia.
So I don't know.
Again, no shade to her.
But I also think her name is just always a lock now, whether or not there are other performances that I think might have been better.
And I think that's kind of the stage we're at now with someone like Emma Stone.
So that's All right, let's do actor in a leading role.
I'm going to run down the nominees.
Timothy Chalamet for Marty Supreme.
He plays Marty Mouser, a scoundrel, a hustler, and an aspiring world champion in table tennis.
Leonardo DiCaprio for One Battle After Another.
DiCaprio plays a washed-up ex-revolutionary whose past catches up with him.
Ethan Hawke for Blue Moon.
Hawke plays songwriter Lorenz Hart on the worst night of his life, the opening of Oklahoma on Broadway.
Michael B. Jordan for Sinners.
He plays the twins Smoke and Stack who face off against vampires when they open a juke joint.
And Wagner Mora for The Secret Agent.
Mora plays a researcher who goes into hiding during Brazil's military dictatorship.
How about this field?
Well, at some point today, Chalamet is going to give an interview where he says yeah, my agent called and woke me up and I was really – don't believe it.
Don't believe it.
Timmy was up.
He had six empty Red Bulls on the coffee table in front of him.
He was waiting for this.
He and DiCaprio were the locks.
Jordan too.
Jordan, especially because he's playing two different roles and you forget it's the same actor.
So the pleasant surprises for me were Wagner Mora, an incredibly soulful performance that really brings that film together.
And Ethan Hawke.
I'm so glad that the voters saw Blue Moon and saw what we saw in it.
We saw a tremendous performance by Ethan Hawke.
Yeah, I was so pleased to see Ethan Hawke here.
That was one of my favorite performances of last year.
And if you go back and rewatch the announcement of this category, the fanfare that explodes when Michael B Jordan's name is called that was me on the inside, sitting by myself on my couch watching it.
I was like, yes.
Sinners was a favorite in the room.
Sinners was a big favorite.
I am just very happy to see the kid who went from The Wire and Friday Night Lights to becoming the muse of Ryan Coogler.
I am just so pleased to see that here.
And Wagner Mora, too.
Like, it's a nice mix, unsurprising mix, but also nice to see overall.
Yeah, and when you look at the performances that weren't nominated, Joel Edgerton for Train Dreams is a very lauded performance.
Jesse Plemons for Begonia.
Aisha, you already mentioned.
There were more kind of Oscar-level performances this year than there were slots.
Agreed.
Okay, we're going to talk about the supporting performances as well as Best Director.
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Next up, we've got the category actress in a supporting role.
I'm going to run down the nominations.
Elle Fanning for sentimental value.
Fanning plays an American actress who was cast as the star of a Norwegian filmmaker's passion project.
Inga Ibsdottir Lilos for sentimental value.
Lilos plays the estranged daughter of a Norwegian filmmaker.
Amy Madigan for weapons.
Madigan plays Aunt Gladys, who plays a role in the disappearance of 17 children.
Unmi Musaku for sinners.
Musaku plays a hoodoo conjurer and healer who has a deep relationship with Michael B Jordan's character Smoke and Tiana Taylor.
For one battle after another,
Taylor plays an ex-revolutionary named Perfidia Beverly Hills, who goes into hiding.
What do y'all think?
I mean, Tiana Taylor has had the smoke, the heat, all of that from day one, more or less.
I've said what I've said about what I think about that character.
I don't think it's the performance, though.
I think she's bringing as much as she can to a very underwritten character.
So not at all surprised to see her here.
And similarly, Wuni Misaku has had the same sort of heat.
So I'm not surprised to see them here.
I think for me the pleasant surprise was Elle Fanning.
I know she was in the mix here but I thought she was kind of a revelation for me in that movie.
She's been very good in a lot of things and this, for me, felt like a coming out for her in a big way.
And so I was really happy to see Elle Fanning here.
Yeah, I mean, Madigan, I love.
I love that domination.
I love that performance.
Masako and Taylor, they were the ones that we considered locks.
Taylor, I kind of disagree with you, Ayesha.
I mean, she's not on screen for long, but her performance colors every frame of that film, which is what it needs to do.
Absolutely, yeah.
That needs to happen for the film to work.
So I was perfectly okay with that.
As for Lilos and Fanning, especially Fanning, I mean, they love Sentimental Value, the movie.
And it's strange to see an international film kind of leeching its way into so many categories except, you know, for this year.
It happened four times this year.
That's a record.
That's unusual.
But, I mean, when it comes to Sentimental Value, it is a film about filmmaking.
It's not about Hollywood. but it's a film about filmmaking.
It's about art.
It's about making art and the balance of art and life.
And the voters are artists.
The voters are filmmakers.
Even if they have to read it subtitled, it got through.
So if any international film was going to have the presence in these major categories we're talking about, it would be that one.
Yeah.
I would have been so disappointed, particularly if Inga Ebe's daughter Lilos had not been nominated.
I would have been so bummed.
I thought that performance was a revelation.
I loved her in this movie.
The big, probably, you know, some will call it a snub, would be Ariana Grande in Wicked for Good.
She had made a lot of predictions list, kind of expecting to be nominated.
She was nominated last year.
She is left out.
Yeah.
I mean the other big one, and I'm not going to call any of these things a snubs but, like The other big thing was, when I saw A24 post Odessa Azaian's audition tape on their Instagram page for Marty Supreme, I was like oh, they are going for it.
They are gunning for it.
And, you know, I think she was definitely in the mix, too.
And I kind of thought she might edge her way in here over someone like Amy Madigan.
But, you know, that Amy Madigan performance is phenomenal. bonkers.
So it's kind of fun to see that kind of role and character get nominated here.
All right, let's run down actor in a supporting role.
Benicio del Toro for One Battle After Another.
He plays a karate instructor who aids Leonardo DiCaprio's ex-revolutionary.
Jacob Elordi for Frankenstein.
He plays the creature in this adaptation of the Mary Shelley classic.
Delroy Lindo for Sinners.
Lindo plays a harmonica player at a juke joint whose opening night doesn't go as planned.
Sean Penn for One Battle After Another.
Penn plays Colonel Lockjaw who is seeking revenge against a group of ex-revolutionaries.
And Stellan Skarsgård for Sentimental Value.
Skarsgård plays a filmmaker who is working on his next film while trying to reconnect with his daughters.
I would imagine, based on my knowledge of y'all's opinions of several of these movies, that you feel all sorts of ways about this field of nominations.
Yeah.
Well, look, the Del Toro thing, that is a small role.
The only reason anybody's talking about it, the only reason it registers, is because of that performance.
So let's give him props.
Lindo, how great is it to see Delroy Lindo get nominated?
His first ever Oscar nomination.
He's been so good for so long.
After The Five Bloods, when I was like hoping, hoping, yes.
He has been out here putting in the work for so long, and it's great to see him recognized.
Speaking of putting in the work, Stellan Skarsgård.
That is a really terrific layered performance.
He's got to play a jerk and an egotist, but somebody that you feel and the daughter feels like you can still find the humanity in the guy.
He has never won an Oscar.
He's not going to win this year, but this is a heartwarming category.
I'm good with this.
Can I say though granted, I've only seen this film once and maybe I need to rewatch it, but I feel like this is a little bit of category fraud.
Like Stellan Skarsgård to me was more of a lead actor than a supporting.
So I mean, I know what the impulse is to put him here because he has a better shot, but still, as you said Glenn, this is a very stacked year.
And even in this category, I don't think he's going to be able to pull out the edge.
Like It feels like it's between Del Toro and Lindo, but who knows.
And let's throw in a few kudos for Jacob Elordi.
Oh, he's so good.
This could have so easily been a nothing performance from an actor I think has been underrated for a while now.
I'm delighted to see this performance rewarded.
Hear, hear.
As far as performances that didn't make the cut that people thought might have, Paul Mezgal for Hamnet did not get a nod here.
Compared to Jesse Buckley, it is definitely not as much of a powerhouse performance as much as I have liked Paul Mezcal in other things.
Adam Sandler did not get nominated for J Kelly, as some suspected he might have, but mostly this played out as expected.
I guess there's only room for one movie a year about a man...
An artist trying to connect with his daughters.
And all that love went to sentimental value.
Yeah, I feel like the makers of J. Kelly cursed at the screen as sentimental value rolled by.
I loved J. Kelly.
It's the volcano on Dante's Peak all over again.
All right, we got one more category we're going to talk about in directing.
The nominees are Paul Thomas Anderson for One Battle After Another, Ryan Coogler for Sinners, Josh Safdie for Marty Supreme, Joakim Trier for Sentimental Value and Chloe Zhao for Hamnet.
What do y'all think?
Pretty predictable, right?
I mean, whether or not we agree with this mixture, like this felt like what everyone was predicting.
It felt like where all of the heat was coming from.
Especially, Chloe Zhao has been out there talking about this movie in various platforms and, really you know, bringing it home and she has won before.
She won Best Director and Best Picture for Nomadland.
So, All of these people are kind of in the mix of being sort of Academy beloved.
And so I'm not surprised at all.
And again, just really happy for Ryan Coogler.
So happy.
Right.
Trier is a legit surprise, I think, because again, it makes sense that this film would find its way to Oscar voters the way it did.
But it's not necessarily a flashy directorial experience.
The way, something like Frankenstein with Guillermo del Toro, who is also an Oscars favorite.
That was where I was a little surprised.
Yeah.
And if you like family drama, if you like uncomfortable Thanksgiving dinners, Josh Schafty getting this nod.
And then when his brother's film The Smashing Machine just notched a makeup hairstyling nomination.
That was the star of the movie.
That'll be fun.
All right.
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