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Dr. Rice is a visiting fellow at the Freeman Spogalie Institute at Stanford and a distinguished visiting fellow at the Stanford Institute for Human Centered Artificial Intelligence.
She previously served as domestic policy advisor for President Biden and was President Obama's national security advisor and the US permanent representative to the United Nations.
She is the author of The New York Times bestselling memoir Tough Love, My Story of the Things Worth Fighting For.
Welcome. I am so excited to have you join me today, and I look forward to the conversation we're going to have.
Me too. Thanks for having me in that.
So let's get started.
You have led a variety of teams and organizations throughout your career.
Are there any specific leadership principles you follow or use?
I think good leadership, first of all, is about setting a vision and a direction and hopefully an ambitious target.
It's about demonstrating passion and commitment to achieving that target and hopefully to energizing the folks around you.
But to me, ultimately, leadership is about people.
It's about bringing others along with you towards that objective or goal.
And to do that, people have to feel not only wedded to the mission, but valued in their role in contributing to the mission.
So I try very hard to find the best people and then giving those great people the space and the capacity and the power to do what they do best and give them the expectation that when they need direction or they need top level cover, or they need somebody to blast through the barriers or, you know, consummate,
whatever it is, that they know when and how to seek that direction for me as a leader.
But I've also discovered that for people to feel valued and willing to give their utmost, they've got to know that their leaders, their teammates care about them as human beings.
And so to me, that means that they need to know that their personal lives come first.
When the people we need and love need us most, that it's OK to be there and that the team will fill in behind you and support you, whether you're the most senior person on the team or the most junior person on the team.
When I was national security adviser, my mom was very ill.
And she actually passed in the last month of the Obama administration.
And, you know, President Obama very much led the same way.
He was a dad. He was a real human being.
And he gave me the license to do what I had to do to be able to support my mom, even as I was doing my job 24 seven as national security adviser.
And that's the same way that I tried to to lead my teams and give everybody on the team that same grace.
I appreciate you sharing that personal story.
Thank you. I think it demonstrates the type of leadership that you believe in.
It sounds like it's about finding the right people, setting standards and mission vision and really supporting them both in their professional work, but also in their personal lives.
I'm curious. I can imagine giving feedback, both positive and constructive, as part of that.
How do you approach feedback?
Giving it or getting it or both?
I'll take both. But I'm curious about the giving part.
I'm very direct. And I think the folks I work with expect that what they hear from me is what they see is what they get.
I don't believe in playing games and going around people and being passive aggressive and all of that stuff.
I shoot straight. And if somebody is doing particularly well, I want to reinforce that and encourage it, especially if there's been real progress.
If somebody is screwing up, I'll sit them down and explain what they are doing wrong, what the expectations are and what I think they need to do to to do better.
And I will try to best my ability to do that, especially in the first instances in a patient and kind, if not always gentle way.
But I'm not averse to being more forceful if my sense is that there's not an interest or an effort at remediation.
I hear in your answer to your leadership approach and to your giving feedback that being very clear, helping prioritize and being supportive when appropriate are part of that.
Being candid. Then you asked about receiving feedback by the same token.
If you give it, you got to be able to take it.
And so I've really benefited at various stages of my career from colleagues who've been, as I would say, kind enough to give me the hard truths or the tough love or whatever you want to call it to enable me to be better and help me to recognize where I'm falling short.
I think that's really important that people not only take the feedback, but seek it out.
And that's how we get better.
You know, my favorite song from the musical Hamilton is in the room where it happens.
And you definitely have been in many of those rooms.
What insights can you provide into how best to negotiate in high stakes situations?
Drawing in particular on my time in national security at the United Nations where, for example, I was negotiating regularly with the...