Very soon you will be in the ice bath withme.
But I don't like thecold.
That'scool.Woo!Yeah!
Ohgosh. Shame withyou,Brett.
Wem Hoppe has the five logic time and timeagain.
He's able to withstand extreme cold and even ran to the top of Everest in hisunderwear.
He's proven we're all capable of pushing our minds and bodies way past what was thoughtpossible.
They call me the iceman.
What is the purpose ofliving?
Happiness, strength andhealth.
The rest isbulge. About this society is sick and we cannot deal withstress.
It drainsus. But if we listen to ourbody, we can change that throughscience.
So what is the firststep?
Reading oursources. It's about handling our emotion and feel that we are on top ofit.
No matterwhat, but we have never learned in our schooling how to doit.
Next through the power of themind, we learned to make our bad feelings disease goaway.
You were injected withE.
coli. You had no negative immuneresponse.
You tookvolunteers, trained them on yourtechniques.
And when they wereinjected, their responses were similar to yourown.
Butoh,possible. How do you dothat?
First, we haveto...Wem, was there ever a time where the pain was even too much foryou?
My wife took her ownlife.
Andwhoo. That led to depression and I was not able to doanything.
There's so many people that are going through different forms ofgrief.
What would you say to thosepeople?
The only way to break thatis...
Wem,yes. What is yourmission?
My mission is to bring love andpower.
Verysimple, but then throughsounds.
So there is no speculation aboutit.
In all this songs youhear, love is the greatestpower.
And allthat, youknow? But we should be able to feelit.
And because we could not feel that anymore to be too consumed throughconsumerism, througheveryday, veryhectic, stressfullives, we get confused in itall.
We are depleted in ourenergy.
Our energy is being drained through a system that is unequally being divided in itswealth.
And therefore people are not able to use their energy to bring up the right values back in thefamily, which ispatience, which isempathy,creativity,love, composed byhappiness, strength andhealth.
So because there is confusion in thatarea, that's why Ithought,hey, I'm going to start somewhere here andnow.
I'm going to change theworld.
And I see thewars, I seeunhappiness, I seedepression, I seepollution, I seeabuse, I see allthat.
And people think that isnormal.
And we have to abide to thoserealities.
And Ithink,no, it'ssick.
And what I'm going to do aboutit, I'm going to startlooking, searchinginside.
Because I think every mother in the world should be able to bringhappiness, strength and health to their children and keep itthere.
So that's my mission to bringit.
And because nobody is listening to a person like me saying that from theroof, we've got it withlove, it's the power and all that'sit.
That's why I go throughscience.
But first I went into thecold.
And the cold I met because intuitively Ifelt,hey, the cold is able to bring down mythinking.
What is it about the nature ofsociety?
When you look out on society at themoment, that makes you sad orconcerned.
What is it about the way welive?
Yes. The way we've built this thing calledsociety.
So society is a verycomplex, opportunistic way throughtime.
Nobody is able to trace down where the problemis.
So it has been areason. It's toocomplex, tooconfused.
Now andthere, Isay,hey,okay, this look at theestablishment.
Is thisperfect? Is thisparadise?
No, it's nothing wrong with ourknowledge, understanding andintelligence.
But the way we useit, we have to change ourconsciousness.
And our consciousness is our way toperceive.
It's our way to perceive as what we see and what we are able to dealwith.
And we cannot deal with the stress coming in ourlives.
It consumesus. It drainsus.
And there weare. And look what we cando.
We can go to themoon. We can go toMars.
We can build bridges so we can createAI.
All thosethings. But we cannot createhappiness, strength andhealth.
We cannotreset. So let's stop massively in the world and elevate our consciousness to being good to eachother.
Not to becompetitive. If I'm an individual listening to this and I follow yourmethods, what can you promise me will be the outcome on my day-to-daylife?
A lot moreenergy. That's numberone,two.
You will feel just ourlife.
What is the purpose ofliving?
It'slife. To love life as itis.
Pure. Nothoughts. Noconfusion.
It's notthere. Just feelalive.
When you arise from thebed, youfeel,okay.
This is a newday. I'm going to change the world today because I feel sogood.
And even though I'm not fully on rightnow, I know it'scoming.
And I wantit. I want it somuch.
You knowwhat? It's calledpurpose.
And thatpurpose, I'm livingit.
And that purpose is stronger than mythinking.
And this society is not driven to fulfill each and every oncepurpose.
It's to have the societymaintained.
The system maintained controlled by a couple ofpeople.
All the energy forwhat?
Where is thehappiness?
Where is thestrength? Where is thehealth?
Every day when I live mypurpose, and I want to change theworld, I want to bring love andpower.
And I'm doing that with mathematicalprecision, with the missionimpossible.
Things that Ifound, which I tested in scientific comparativestudies, showing that suddenly we have so much morecontrol.
Instead of being controlled by thesystem, pressing ourpurpose, our livesenergy, and to connect with thatpurpose.
It's likelove. When you feel love for yourwoman, for yourlove, forsex,this,this, you don't think that is thatpower.
And that power you should be able to live and to feel forlife,itself, everyday.
But we are blocked toomuch.
Going into the cold brings you out of this thinkingbrain.
It brings you directly into the deepest part of thebrain.
Because you are doingit, going into thecold, then it needs to be switchedon, the deepest part of thebrain, survivalpart, the brain'sthem, and to battle the danger of thecold.
But it'sthere. And once it'sthere, and you are doingit, you areconnecting.
It's that part of what you'resaying, that the way that we live our lives is a little bit toocomfortable.
So we're not reaching those deeper levels of ourbrain.
And we are optimizing discomfort out of our lives in every chance weget.
Fromevery, youknow, I got here today in a nice warmcar.
I arrived in a nice warmbuilding.
I had a nice warmshower.
Very soon you will be in the ice bath withme.
It's going to benice. It's going to benice.
But the differenceis, wechoose.
If we go to the cold and the cold will not come tous, we tackle the problem before it arises withinus.
With thecold, which is a verynegative, aggressivepower, inflicted upon ourbodies, it's animpact.
When yousay, if we go to the cold before the cold comes tous, is that a metaphor forlife?
Yes.Okay. You mean wego, we put ourselves indiscomfort.
And if wedon't, then our lives will be met with discomfort in otherways.
Yes. And then we are notprepared.
And a lot of people are maybe okay with this in thissystem, but so many more people are not okay withthis.
And for those we standup.
We, who have the wealth of being and feelingokay,great, that'swealth.
We should be able to stand up for those whocannot.
When, when did thisstart?
When did thisstart, because a lot of people that I meet on thisshow, youknow, their early journeys or the sort of pivotal moments in their lives can be traced back to maybe when they were 12 or13.
But your journey starts evenearlier.
The first domino that fell seems to fall when your mother was giving birth toyou.
Oh,yes.Subconsciously, it started at mybirth.
My mother toldme, I'm one of the twinsunexpected, backthen.
We had no eco-graphics and all thesetools.
So they didn't know that there was another twinbaby,that?
Exactly. And so I was almost born toolate.
They discovered me almost toolate.
And so I came out while they were pushing the bet with my mother to the operation room in thehallway, likepurple, because almost suffricated coming out in the cold of thehall.
Verytraumatized. It started overthere.
It started with atrauma.
And let me tellyou, I became a seeker because of thattrauma.
People becomeseekers.
If they have deeptraumas, they always will seekcompensation.
Always try to seek relief in one way or inanother.
Not directly to thetrauma, but indirectlybypassing.
And they don'tknow. It influencesdirectly, deeply your behavior inlife.
Just want to make sure I'm super clear onthis.
Your mother had two identical twinboys.
And the doctors only knew that one baby wasthere.
So when they finished delivering yourbrother, your identical twinbrother, they were moving on with theprocedure.
And then at the lastminute, while they were in the hallway they discovered there was another baby inthere.
And that other baby yourself was atrisk.
And from that whole sort of traumaticexperience, you feel that that sort of embodied a trauma which turned you into aseeker, looking for answers on theuniverse, rejecting the conventionalthinking.
And that takes us all the way through this sort of very curious childhood up to the point you described at 17 yearsold, where you're stood in Amsterdam by avery, very coldlake.
And you feel cold to jump into thatlake.
Yes. Cold andcold. There are no words to describe it because you are led byintuition.
You're led by the way the body is able to solve whatever isinside.
Because you cannot relate by thinking what is goingon.
Because I was a baby backthen.
But it always blockedme.
It made me aseeker. And at that moment when I wentin, I just followed tointuition.
It's afeeling. And there Ifelt, this isit.
This isit. What I've always been trying to find as aseeker.
My intuition had led me to go into that water to meet mytrauma.
And that is activating a innate capacity of ours to deal and to process whatever is going on in the deepest of thebrain, in the deepest door to up a tissue where it's traumapresent, which we haven't learned how toaccess.
That first time you got in the coldwater.
Yeah. Did you react like I react when I get in the cold waternow?
Didyou? Iknow. Absolutelynot.
I wassurprising. And you will go with melater.
You will not go the way you justexpressed.
We willgo. Like you will smile beautifully like you do rightnow.
And go withme. And there is a moment that you will feel a little bitof, but I'mthere.
We arethere. You're mybrother.
I'm youruncle. I'm yourfamily.
I want you to feelgood. I want youto, I'm here to make youstrong.
It means to stay in the eye of the hurricane when itis, when the stress ismost.
When you first got into the coldwater, you said it seemed to answer a lot of your spiritualquestions.
Oh,yeah.Oh. What spiritual questions did getting in the cold water that first timeanswered?
All what has been propagated by all thereligions, all the ascetic disciplines anddoctrines, thatNirvana,Enlightenment,Key,Chi,Prima, whatever they call it inname, that is just ourmind.
Let's feelstrong. Let's bestrong.
Let's behealthy. Let's behappy.
Justunconditionally.
That's what I felt at thatmoment.
This isit. And it was not words that came tome.
It was a pure opening of myfeeling, being uninterrupted bythinking.
Formany, manyyears, you lived as asquatter.
Was it from 17 to sort of20, sort of mid 20s that you lived as asquatter?
Eightyears. You were your best time of mylife.
Having no moneywhatsoever.
I was in society living outside ofsociety.
Outer. I had nomoney. I lived off the scraps of themarketplace.
And I lovedit. It was a partytime.
It was feast everyday. With all these other people who are freethinkers.
Don't think attime. Have asabbatical.
A sabbatical way the system maintains itself throughparadigm, through a certain way ofthinking.
If you just leave it attime, you start to think thoughts and emotions are able to emerge without this helmet on this heavyhelmet, which is interrupting yourflow, yourbeing, yourexpression.
And then you cannot trust thatexpression.
You arelost. You're getting lost of who youare.
There, I was able to free think without even thinking aboutit.
I played the guitar the wholeways.
I didyoga, all these potions in thecourtyard,naked.
In the wintertime, it became sostrong.
If you only let the life force expressitself, you become sostrong.
What is the life force for anybody that doesn'tknow?
Anybody hasit. Like here and rightnow.
IfI, like I was talkingbefore, we entered into thispodcast.
76 years old this manwas.
And he was suffering from Lyme'sdisease.
And he wanted to climb the Kilimanjaro in record time without having any experience inclimbing.
76 yearsold, Lyme'sdisease, suffering with thatcondition, doing a mountain which normally is done between five or ninedays, fullydressed, because up there at six hours it made it reallycold.
And there is less than half theoxygen.
So the cold comes even harderin.
And there I saw a lifeforce.
His life force was so determined to climb withme.
And impossiblephysiologically, impossibletask.
Because normally between five to ninedays, he did it at 31hours, 76 yearsold.
What else is that than a life force you never expected it tobe, just to take on thechallenge?
He had a deeper feeling withinhimself.
I don't know what I got todo.
The guy is saying he wants to climb the Kilimanjaro past the physiological limits according toscience.
And I feelit. I feel something that is your life force talking to you which wants to freeitself.
He was suffering from Lyme'sdisease.
He was in a system always abiding toeverything.
And suddenly with an out immunedisorder, he could not control atall.
And there hewas. He felt the same thing as I felt when I was 17 going into thecold.
He came with me and he climbed to Kilimanjaro in 31hours, not five to ninedays, 31hours.
So that is the lifeforce.
Our life force is capable of so much more than we are usedto.
Why don't we knowthat? Why don't we believethat?
Why don't we live our lives withthe, youknow, the opinion that we can climb themountain?
Sure. Because we are led to believe we have to serve into systems that are not necessarily serving oursoul.
And they're somassively,psychologically, overwhelming thesystem, the schoolingsystem,etc.
It's so overwhelming that we have no way to escape from this narrowing consciousness where we gotin.
Wethink,Careyus, make ushappy.
Cars make ushappy. Money makes ushappy.
Fame and name and all makes ushappy.
I was the happiest guy when I was in the squat havingnothing.
You were effectively homeless living justoutside.
Yeah. A squat is a place where you have electricity and that'sit.
And you've got to pay for theheater.
So you had to find ways topay,say, what isit?
70 pounds amonth. And you were living with lots ofpeople.
Yeah,yeah. When you weresquatting.
Yeah.Wow. It was anamazing, Imean, we don't need somuch.
It has been propagated that we need ahouse.
Everybody needs amortgage.
And you've got to serve thatmortgage.
You've got to go to 9 to5.
And we becomeslaves. Slaves of the system that is in the end creating quite somestress.
And we are only able tosurvive.
Not to express ourselves creatively as who we are and what we are forreal.
What's a realistic alternative when I lived in thatsociety.
First I lived outside through living in asquat.
That was enough for me to have my own identity connected in mythinking, mymind.
And then I went intosociety.
It was horribletime. Because suddenly I had to live in a flat withkids.
And mywife, deterioratedmentally.
And she took her own life in95.
And she jumped from eight storiesdown.
That was the life I wasin.
And society just keeps on going like atrain.
It has noemotion. It has nofeeling.
When onthat, you're 22 yearsold.
You're full inlove.Yeah.
With a woman you describe as the love of yourlife.
Oh, that'sher.Yes.Oh,Laya.
Oh, look atthis.Oh,yes, wetold.
Amazingsoul. Veryexpressive, very talkative toeverybody.
Veryopen. And then into the shadows of her ownmind.
And this functioning of brainfunctioning.
And that led to herdepression.
And then becomingmanic.
And then the skills offriendlier.
And thenworse, got worse and worse andworse.
We were 15 yearstogether.
You met her in a squathouse.
In the squathouse,yeah.
Yeah.Amazing.Yeah, soinnocent.
All veryinnocent. I called herButterfly, Mariposa inSpanish.
And Butterfly because she waseverywhere.
And she was a very lightbeing.
Did I fell in love or rose inlove?
I think the lastone. Only the way her mind got disturbed throughthis.
Yeah. Is itsociety? Is itdepression?
Is itcareer? Is it what isit?
Thedemand? Because this was alight, a being oflight.
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And I also lovedit. I lovednature.
But then she kissedher.
The kids could buy before jumping down or letting go from a eighthstory.
She jumped off an eighth storybuilding.
Yes. Imean, it almost takes her a lot of courage to do thattoo.
You must be very desperate if you do a thing likethat.
And that is somethingunovercomable.
The part of me when I was12, the world issick,depressed, thedarkness, thewars, thepollution,etc., allthat, I'm going to do something aboutit.
At thatmoment, I was not able to doanything.
So it turned into adefeat.
It turned into beingme.
Hopeless. It turned into me into beingdepressed.
But I had no time to bedepressed.
I had to take care of fourchildren.
On yourown. On myown. With almost nomoney.
So that's actually where the cold camein.
Not like a negativepower.
The cold is stronger than youmight.
It's than you'rethinking.
It makes you the depth of your brain atwork.
And the depth of your brain is theplace, thepharmacy.
It's thepharmacy, the healer of ourbeing, which we disconnected from somuch.
Because we go forpills,medicines, we go to doctor if something happens tous.
We don't go toourselves.
I can't imagine thepain.
I can't imagine the pain of having the love of mylife.
I'magitere. I have four kids withme.
But they don't take her ownlife.
Grief. Ohyes. Grief had nospace.
Yes. The agonizing thinking all day long has its way to burden aperson.
Me. Andyeah, the only way to break that was going into icywater.
Thatwas,yeah, Imean, at thatmoment, you're justsurviving.
And that gives you alittle, little opening of this agonizingthinking.
It'spainful. And at thatmoment, you're so overwhelmed by all that thatyou, now I can talk aboutit.
But backthen, I was in the middle ofit.
Do you remember where you were when you got that firmcall?
Yes.Exactly. And I was doing groups of people in themountains.
So backthen, you had these phonebooths.
On thecamping. On the camping where we slept and with thegroup.
And there I got this phone call of her brother callingme.
Andyeah, it is not onlyshocking, you don't know what tosay.
You cannot evencry. The grief comeslater.
The thinking aboutit, the being able to contemplate about it and have feelings about it comes onlylater.
I cried when I was with herfather, with her father over her deadbody.
Then we criedtogether.
Then you canrelate. You can letgo.
Ithappens. You're not thinking aboutit.
Ithappens. So that's the way itevolves.
Andthen, but in the back of myhead, ofcourse, my fourchildren, it took a burden onus.
It took a burden on an inexplicableburden.
It changedus. It traumatized us in thedepth.
And that made us separate at a certain moment later on inlife.
Now we are all together and it'samazing.
The chemistry is better than I've everbefore.
Andshe, themother, she is like an angelnow.
She's looking over our shoulders and we talk aboutit.
Wesay,yeah,she, that it is going so well withus.
It's because she isback.
She is withus. We feelit.
When you had that conversation with your four children that their mother wasgone, they were between seven and twelve yearsold.
How do you have a conversation with a seven-year-old or a twelve-year-old about their mother not being hereanymore?
Exactly. Thatway. She isgone.
Her body isgone. She didn't say she wasdead.
She is no longer withus.
That's what Isaid. And they gotit.
We arehere. We aretogether.
We're going to find life withus.
Mommy isgone. Yet also she ishere.
Iworked. Imean, we wenton.
Did they askquestions?
Ofcourse. Ofcourse, manyquestions.
But in theend, the questions were not as strong as our being during a life beingtogether.
It's there where I found the cold to give me all the energy to create a good atmosphere athome, thenest,warmth,playfulness, beingthere,light, notheavy.
What is that firststep?
Because there are so many people that are going through different forms of grief or they have that trauma that you've described that goes back a longway.
If they're listening to this now and they stumbled this far into the conversation and they'rethinking, I'm so far away from thatwhim.
I'm so faraway. I've got my shirt and tieon.
I'm in thiscity. I know I'munhappy.
I can feel it in mybones.
But I know I know otherway.
What is the firststep?Absolutely.
The breathingexercises.
These breathing exercises in 2014 were capable to show just likescientifically, the hormonally looking at the nervoussystem, the depth which we entered with these breathing exercises in this comparative study showed that we were able to tap into the autonomic nervous system and innate immunesystem, which was considered to be impossible inscience.
And now it isthere. It's not only the autonomic nervous system and the innate immunesystem.
It's also theability,naturally, to solve what is deeply stored up in our tissue which could not be processed in the moment when ithappened.
Trauma.Well, I've got some of those studies in front ofme.
I read through all of them ahead of our conversation and they are quite franklyremarkable.
They're quite franklyremarkable.
They are peer reviewed studies that have beenpublished, went through very sort of scientifically rigorous processes to make sure that they werevalid.
And in these studies we see breakthroughs that I think in the past people thought wereimpossible.
But if we just focus in then on that breathing because you described that as the firststep, if I have never breathed in mylife, I've never doneit, I've never heard aboutit, I'm skeptical toit.
I think breathing is just something we don't thinkabout.
What do you mean by breathing and what kind ofbreathing?
And can you explain to me like I'm anidiot?
What it'sdoing? Forexample, I'm now busy with cardiologists and they saw in heart films that if you stop breathing after exhalation for one and a halfminutes, five times more blood flows into the brain and to theheart.
This has never beenshown.
And now it has been shown through these breathingtechniques.
Imean, this really goes sodeep.
We are able to make these through these breathingtechniques, change our blood'schemistry.
Bring up the pH levels way up by which the breathing trigger is not happening because it's depending on the CO2 level in ourblood.
And webreathe. Like 30 times likethis, you become a little bitwujee, a little bitdizzy.
Why? Because the CO2 levels go waydown.
You blow it off carbondioxide.
Have we forgotten how to breathe likethat?
Ohyes. Is that the natural way ofbreathing?
No, notexactly. What is exactly is that we have forgotten to feel deepemotions.
To be in connection withdanger.
Danger is the deepemotion.
Allright, allright. Allright, allright.
It'sdeep. We avoid theseemotions.
But we are built to receiveit, to expressit.
And withthat, it comesalive, the deeper mechanisms in ourbody.
And if that long term is notexercised, those deepermechanisms, and among that is not only theemotion, it's also the immunesystem.
It becomesweaker. We become moreflustered.
We becomeinsensitive.
Look at the insensitivity in oursociety.
As I washappening,yeah, protesthere, we should stop thatshit.
We should stop those wars becausekids, littlekids, arehere,jeopardized.
And we cannot even feel itanymore.
Youknow, that this insensitivity in us is aplague.
It's a plague because we serve a system that runs well on people being obedient and beingflustered.
Not really sensitive because if you are reallysensitive, you don't go to a slave job every day and come backstressed.
And the otherday, you do itagain, andagain, andagain, andagain, andagain.
What we should do within ourselves is learning how to connect into thedepth.
And this is what I give through thecold.
We bring these deeper emotions alive and then you will not abide to that what makes youweak.
To that what kills you apurpose.
We got to stand up as humanity more now thanever.
And here weare. AndWim, how do you dothat?
Verysimple. Do this breathingtechniques.
Do it on yourbed. On the sofa or very controlled because you will go past your conditioned mind andbody.
The shallow breathing wedo, we say that isbreathing.
That's notbreathing. That is automatic reflex of yourbody.
Doingsomething. Now you take overconsciously, you start to breathedeeper.
You go past these patterns depicted by a conditionedbody.
And that conditioning is only serving the system but not necessarilyyou.
I want you to take over thestairwell.
I want you to be conscious and then go with that conscious into deeperbreathing.
Break the patterns of yourconditioning.
And suddenly your deepertraumas, your deeper feelings are able to come to thesurface.
Being storedup, being stashed awayforever.
And that is what is happening in the firstsession.
Wedo. I can promise any person who is doing it will encounter such a tremendousexperience.
From the depth coming to thesurface.
And that is only the depth coming to thesurface.
That isall. And it isbeautiful.
I am so intrigued as to how thathappens.
I have had lots of friends that are very focused on breathing using yourtechniques.
I told you before we started recording my partner runs a breath work studio called BollyBreathwork.
She has committed her life to using the breath to healpeople.
But I would like someone to explain to me how if I take hold of the steering wheel and I go past those unconscious breathingpatterns, why does that unlocktrauma?
Because when I go tomy, when I have been to my partner's breath work sessions when theyend, people are talking about very deep forms of trauma that they have suddenlyencountered.
And I am wondering how is the breath doingthat?
How is the breath unlocking thatstuff?
Where is ithidden? I don't understand the breath's connection to ourtrauma.
So, traumas are a stored upchemistry.
It'sunprocessed. It's when experience happens and you cannot deal withit.
You can't processit. You don'tunderstand.
It's being stashed away and it becomes biochemical stored up capacity of thebody.
The body is simply there in our deepertissue.
But our conditioned mind and body is not able to get into thatdepth.
Just bythinking.Yes. We are thinking toomuch.
And we know something is wrong inside but we cannot connect withthat.
Now, if we change thepatterns, we normally go into with our breathing and thinking which goesbad, which controls ourheart.
It'sconditioning. If we are into that conditioning and we start simply and that makes it so beautiful that it is sosimple.
And how it then suddenly is able to get into this stored to regulate our mood in the depth is by a cannabinoidreceptors.
The last study we did is a landmarkstudy.
Landmark study done by Professor Vibov Divakar inDetroit.
And it shows that the cannabinoid receptors are part of the salientnetwork.
The salient network is that what makes all the networks in the brain worktogether.
And withthat, we get a hold of areas we normally don't have connectionto.
So what a breathing does in the depth is activating the connectors in the body called cannabinoid receptors by which deeper realities of our physiology openup.
And that is a natural thing to happen when we are in peace no longer in thetrauma, in theaccident.
No, now we are inpeace. Now we should be able to work out what has been storedup.
That is a natural capacity of ours to dothat.
But we have never learned in oursociety, in ourschooling, how to doyour...
Not even inpsychiatry, they give you pills and they give youmedicines.
And it makes a lot ofmoney, but it doesn't solve theproblem.
People becomecatatonic.
Peoplego, my wifetoo, after treatment in psychiatry the first time she became her eyeslike...
Becausezombie.Yeah, azombie.
This is ablasphemy. This is scandalous in psychiatry that they keep on doingthat.
Now I get a lot ofpsychiatrists, a cognitive psychologist or a cognitive therapist and theysay, when the cognitive therapist has no solutionanymore, we dobreathing.
And it just bringssolution.
So it issimple, soeffective, but it doesn't makemoney.
It makes peopleunderstand, I feel so muchbetter, how is thatpossible?
And that simplythat, how itworks, we just did the landmark study with the compelling findings that we actually found in thereception, in the receptionfocus, suddenly being able to regulate ourmood,emotion, muchbetter.
So we are able to listen to our body and we feelbad, we can changethat.
We found now thekey, how to dothat.
First ofall, you do thebreathing.
Ofcourse, coldtraining, not toomuch, never toomuch.
Justrelax. We are very capable to even take like PatriceEvra, who was completely hating it because of us when he wasyoung.
He got it as apunishment.
You have to take it nice and good and open up to the natural capacity to take iton.
He was thebest, absolutebest, taken on icy water for 16minutes, he was in and he wanted to stay therein.
And BBC waslike, ohno, this is toodangerous, please come outthere.
You have to come outPatrice.
Wow,okay,okay. And he was just walking out and you knowwhat, I felt hisskin.
He was not evencold. So just forcontext.
Power, that's thatpower.
It's sosimple. For people that don't know Patrice is a good friend ofmine.
PatriceEvra, he's been on this podcast before and he told me that WIMS techniques have really changed hislife, especially his relationship with coldwater.
He was likeme. He told himself that because ofhis, I don'tknow, his race where he camefrom, hisDNA, he wasn't able to spend time in coldwater.
He discovered through WIMS that that was actually a trauma because when he wasyounger, his father used cold water as apunishment.
So he had this trauma with cold water and after doing your program and spending time withyou, he was thevery, very best at staying in coldwater.
And when I was with himrecently.
He wasamazing. He jumped in that cold water withoutflinching.
Youknow, and he told me that throughout his entire Manchester United playingcareer, he was always the one that never got into the cold recovery plunge pools at Manchester United after thegame.
He always avoided it and he justwishes.
He wishes that he knew what he knows now about the power of cold water because then he would have been able to recover better as a play that's what he toldme.
I have the study here in front of me that you describedthere.
I think it's the Michigan Brain of a bodystudy.
That was the first study and then came a secondstudy.
The first study I was compared to 74 testsubjects,people.
And they were all going into the having a perfusionvest.
What has been used when firefighters go into thework, they have a cold water going through a perfusion vest full oftubes.
So it's a vest where they pump coldwater?
Yes. So they are able to endure the heat of the fire that to fight thefire.
So they took that into bodyscans, FMRI scans and pumped cold water into these vests while the people were motionless in theseFMRIs.
And so every time when the cold water was pumped in the body's skin temperature would godown.
And then warmed upagain, skin temperature goingup.
And that correlates in the brain with stress and those stress mechanisms then when the cold is being pumped in is very clearly seen on the monitor of these people who connected to people withelectrodes.
And you could see it on the monitor the way the brain was beingactivated.
So these are the stress mechanisms and now is thewarmth, now is the areas of well being of the brain activated in solar and the and the paryacoductalgray, whatever thenames.
I call it a positive and a negative registration of stress and or well being those parts and they nobody could changethat.
What if we could make the feeling well part of the brain at work when the stress comesin?
So what if we could feel choose to feel good when the stresscomes?
This was never been shown inpsychiatry.
So they had this experimental module there and then nobody could make a different brain scan possible when stress comes in through the cold being pumped in to the skin then stress part of the brain isactivated.
Nobody could make that not go activated not go away and I could I didn't feel the cold when it came in because I warmed up my body willfully nobody believe that was possible until you didit.
I want to just recount that the first study which was done and published in 2018 it was carried out a Wayne State University in Michigan and scientists looked at the way that the body and the brain reacted to changes intemperature.
Whenever anyone feels the cold they typically have a automatic body response but also you can see that that response in the brain and the narrowing of blood vessels to protect organs increased energy and painsignals.
So to test whether you could control that those responses to the cold scientists created a full body suit in which they would pump cold or warm water into your into your body on normal testsubjects.
Their skin temperature would rise and fall with the change in water temperature which is what you'dexpect.
When WIMM underwent the experiment without his breathing techniques his skin temperature changes were very similar to the normalpeople.
However when he used the breathing and meditation techniques he kept a sustained skin temperature of 34 degrees over 25 minutes which was never thought to be humanlypossible.
When he was put in a PET scan to see what was happening inside his body scientists saw that the intercostal muscles which is the muscles between your ribs were burning a lot of glucose releasing heat into your body which was keeping your bodywarm.
When looking at WIMM's brain scientists saw that it didn't have the same unconscious reaction to the cold as normal people's brainsdid.
His breathing technique engaged the sympathetic nervous system releasing adrenaline and triggered the area of the brain stem which is that area you were describingbefore.
That perceivespain. The triggering of the brain stem released cannabinoids and opioids and these chemicals gave a sense of well being and reducedanxiety.
The study showed that WIMM had control over the autonomous systems of the brain and the brain's automatic responses to thecold.
The results of this study have been tremendous and they have proven the massive potential implications for the immune system disorders likediabetes, MS and arthritis inpsychiatry.
The TLDR of that is the study really proved that the stress we encounter throughout our lives we do have control overit.
We have control over the impact it has on our physiological systems but also our brain and how we experience it because you were able to not experiencecold.
The pain ofcold, the stress ofcold.
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