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We're talking about how to negotiate with kids and teens.
And before we we even get into the topic?
Let me just say this.
I have two kids and it's hard for me to consider myself like an expert on this because I feel like every parent is just trying to figure it out as they go along.
But we're going to try our best to just continue to get a little bit better.
So I have two kids, two years old, and then almost eight, eight on Thursday, which will be great.
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Listen, we have got a lot of representation from Spanish speaking countries.
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So first, when we're thinking about as, you know, as parents, but also as people who interact with children, one of the key things that we have to address is this very seminal question.
Should we negotiate with kids?
If no, why is that?
If yes, why is that?
Now, of course, I should disclaim my bias here as the CEO of the American Negotiation Institute.
Of course, I say yes, but I want to hear what you all think in the comments.
Should we negotiate with kids?
And as we answer this question, we have to ask ourselves, what is negotiation?
What is it? So the definition that I use for negotiation is a negotiation is anytime you're in a conversation and somebody in the conversation wants something.
Anytime you're in a conversation and somebody in the conversation wants something, that's when you're negotiating.
So when you use that definition, you recognize number one, you're negotiating all the time.
And number two, it's actually hard to find situations where you are not negotiating.
negotiating. This is going to be a ubiquitous element of our existence as humans.
We're always going to be negotiating.
So usually it's not a case of whether or not we're negotiating.
It's just a case of whether or not we're negotiating well, right?
This is really important.
And then we also see that the people that we negotiate with the most are the people who are closest to us.
So we often think about negotiation as this really lofty type of interaction, transactional interactions that happen relatively infrequently or at work.
But with this broader definition, we can recognize we're negotiating all the time, and that provides us with a signal to have these conversations and lean in and utilize the skills of negotiation when we are negotiating.
And when you think about that definition, we're going to be negotiating with the kids in our life all the time.
Now, here's the thing.
For me, I'm a Caribbean American, first generation, so my dad is from Dominica, my mom is from Guyana, and this is a whole mindset shift for me.
And I'm sure the folks who are immigrants can probably relate to this.
I did not grow up with rights.
My parents were not negotiating with me.
They told me what to do, said, yes, mom, yes, dad, and I did it.
And so for me, this is a bit of a paradigm shift to parent in this type of way where we are using a little bit more discourse and not as much force.
Because as as parents, you really have supreme leverage.
You own everything that the kid uses, and they don't really have any...
Of course, you have to keep them safe, no doubt.
But as far as the rights that they have, they really come from you.
You provide for them in a lot of ways.
So you have supreme leverage, right?
So you could just force your kids to do things.
But why should we instead instead choose a more diplomatic approach?
Why should we engage in conversations with our children versus telling them what to do?
Because that's really the dichotomy that we face, right?
We could either negotiate with them and try to help them to see things differently, try to persuade them to make the right decision, or we could just simply tell them what to do.
So that's a core issue.
Because when I'm looking at the chat, I'm seeing that Most people are saying, yes, we should, and I mean, if you showed up to something called How to Negotiate with Kids and Teens, I'm assuming you say, yes, we should negotiate with them, right?
But I think it's important for us to dig deeply into that and figure out why we should.
Here's a good comment.
I think we should negotiate with them.
I think about what needs to be said carefully.
I craft the message in advance, and I keep it brief, and then it's his option to continue it or not.
And that's Lucia, frequent podcast guest and a friend of the show.
So thank you for that.
And yeah, I like that because we're giving them the opportunity to make a decision.
And I see another comment incoming from Amanda too.
It's so they understand the why behind what we're asking.
Exactly, Amanda, very well said.
And I think that really gets to the heart of this all.
because for me, when I think about the conversations I have with mainly Kai, Kai is going to be eight this week.
Dominic, he's two. We're trying to survive these terrible twos with him, but more so with Kai.
My goal is to parent toward obsolescence.
What do I mean by that?
I want to parent them in a way where they don't need me.
They will continue to need me, no doubt, right?
I'm not going to say, hey, you're nine, be free and good luck, right?
That's not what I'm going for.
But I'm trying to create self -sufficient adults.
That's what I'm parenting toward. And I recognize that if I just tell them what to do, there's no instruction behind it.
They don't understand the why behind it, just like Amanda said.
And so I want them to grasp the underpinnings of what a good decision is.
I want them to understand how to think critically and and move toward the right answer themselves, because I'm not always going to be there, right?
We're not always going to be there.
So we want to be able to approach these difficult conversations in a way that allows them to understand what critical thought went into the decision -making process.
So when you're not present, then they can make the best decision possible, even though you're not there.
So this is a completely different paradigm shift because we're helping them to think, We're teaching them how to think, not telling them what to think.
It's a very subtle shift, but it's very meaningful.
The other thing too is if we're on LinkedIn, we have some kind of business life.
You're listening to this oftentimes because you want business advice.
I think about this as conversational cross -training too.
The elements that I bring into the conversations with my kids are going to be elements that I bring into my basic negotiations in my everyday life as a lawyer or as a business leader.
Because my mentality when it comes to any type of difficult conversation is that everything is practice.
Everything is practice, right?
So if I have this difficult conversation with Kai and he's having a meltdown, I want to be able to have the resilience to be able to stay in that conversation and maintain my emotional stability because I know it's beneficial to him because I'm showing him how he should engage in difficult difficult conversations for when he's an adult.
So yes, there's a parenting benefit there.
But I know for me, if I can keep my cool when my kids are melting down after a long day of work, I know that when I have a business negotiation and the other side might be throwing a tantrum, I know that I can keep my cool too.
Because maybe it's just me, but the difficult conversations I have at home and the negotiations I have with my kids, especially when they're having meltdowns, are far Far more difficult than the business negotiations I have. So I think about it as practice.
I'm going to stay in this because it will make me emotionally more resilient for the everyday negotiations I have in the business world as well.
So it checks multiple boxes there, too.
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The other thing, too.
Now, let's actually start to talk about how we have these conversations, because we've been talking a lot about mindset and the philosophy behind parenting in this type of way.
We're actually engaging our children in discourse.
We also have to think about how we do it.
OK, how do we have these difficult conversations?
I think first it's important for us to outline what makes these conversations so tough, because as parents, we often make the joke.
hey, man, these conversations with my kids are infuriating, they're tough, they're challenging, right?
But what is it that makes it so tough?
Go ahead and put it in the chat.
Let us know. What do you think that makes it so tough?
Because I think if we're going to find effective solutions for how we have these conversations, we have to be able to understand the anatomy of the difficulty.
We understand it's difficult, but we might not have a full understanding of what in particular particular makes it so difficult, because there are going to be two major elements that make it tough.
I'll add a third one, but there are two main elements.
So the first two have to deal with emotions.
It's going to be the emotions of the child, but also your own emotions as well.
So you are going to become emotional, and the child is going to become emotional.
And so when you think about it psychologically, when you think about, let's just talk about two major brain brain structure, then I'm going to try to simplify this as much as possible.
So we have the amygdala, that's part of the limbic system.
So this is where we process all emotions.
And then we have the frontal lobe.
This is at the front of the head here, big brain structure.
And it's where we have logical reasoning, emotion management, executive function.
The prefrontal cortex is located there.
So we have rational thinking there.
But there's an antagonistic relationship between the frontal lobe and the amygdala.
So when you're more emotional, you're not thinking as clearly.
When you're thinking clearer, you're less emotional.
It's an either or type of proposition.
And so what ends up happening is when they get emotional, they're not processing very well.
If you get emotional, you're not processing very well.
And so we have two illogical, irrational people emoting at each other.
That's one element.
So it's your emotions, number one, their emotions, number two, and then also the context.
So what is the context?
A lot of times this happens at home, But when do these tough conversations tend to happen?
They tend to happen in the evening after work, if we're talking about during the week or on the weekend, too.
Now, pre -kids, the weekends were an oasis of restfulness and fun.
I was like, let me look forward to Saturday and Sunday.
I'm going to nap. I'm going to relax.
I'm going to have a lot of time for myself.
But now with two kids, it's like the weekends require a lot more energy than during the week.
I started looking forward to Monday because that's when things get a little bit easier.
And so when we're having these conversations after work and on the weekends, you have to understand that for you, you are probably cognitively depleted at that time.
So there's a term called ego depletion.
And so we have a certain amount of willpower that we can execute every day.
Is kind of like a gas tank and once that willpower is done, then we run into problems So think about times where you might have been on a diet.
And so you're really disciplined with your diet So 6 a .m. You might go to the gym.
Great. My diet's great go to work My diet's great lunch at work diet's great dinner diet is great.
And then right before you go to bed at 9 p .m What do you do?
Your mind's not like you know what I should do I should eat a salad No, i'm going to smash some ice cream.
I'm tired. I worked really hard and I used a lot of willpower I've got none left. So here's what happens to our brains during the day.
So we go and we're making decision after decision, after decision, after decision.
And our brain gets more and more tired as the day goes on.
And so we put a lot of effort into work.
And then after work, we have to put a lot of effort into parenting and we are cognitively tired.
So we don't have the willpower necessary to be at our best. And so we have to really be able to understand what it is that that makes these conversations so difficult, so we can start to solve for those problems. And let's also think about at work, I can close the laptop, I could go home, and that is there.
But it's just left there.
But at home, man, I'm going to be around these people for the rest of my life.
That's not going away.
And so the stakes are much, much higher.
And so we want our children to be in a good position.
And so it feels really heavy when we have to have these tough conversations because we can see the consequences reverberating into the future, and so it feels like it's really high stakes.
So it's a high stakes conversation.
You're emotional, they're emotional, so cognitively you're not at your best, and you're probably emotionally and cognitively fatigued.
So it's a recipe for difficult conversations in that regard. But let's see what people are saying in the chat.
So in your opinion, what are some of the things that makes it so tough?
I'm from Kenya and I relate to your story about growing up without negotiation rights as a kid negotiating with parents was taboo yeah it was often seen as disrespectful like how dare you question me you know like that I think that is something that is associated with a lot of cultures too but we also have to think about the ramifications for us as parents for the kids as they get older so we're teaching our kids not to question authority and that's great if the The authority is perfect, but I haven't met very many perfect people, you know, so that's really challenging.
But now I feel it's really essential to teach our kids about such healthy practices.
I feel it's essential for their adult life.
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Tamika says, I think as parents, sometimes we underestimate our children's level of awareness, adaptability, and resilience.
So we think they can't handle certain conversations, but often it's us who can't handle it.
Absolutely. You have to realize a lot of times we say that we're doing things to protect other people, but we're really trying to protect ourselves.
It's our subconscious trying to protect ourselves.
Oh, he can't handle this.
No, I'm not going to tell him this.
No, you are afraid to have the conversation.
That's really what the issue is, right so i i agree 100 100 yeah parents often don't want to accept that they could be wrong so true so true yeah and i think we again we have to let our kids know that we are not infallible we'll make mistakes too and there it requires a lot of humility and vulnerability vulnerability for you as a parent to own up to that.
Because you have to think about it.
You're not just showing them, you're not just telling them what to do.
You're showing them how to live as well.
So if you are having, if you're having a conversation with your kid and they're not accepting responsibility for the mistakes they made, yes, understand that psychologically as humans, that's going to be challenging for people to accept responsibility.
But that might also be you learned behavior?
They might've seen you make mistakes and not own up to it too, right?
So this provides us to an opportunity to teach them through our actions as well.
I remember growing up, I thought my parents could do no wrong, no wrong.
But I think there's going to be a more intimate relationship with me and my kids because they're going to see me growing and developing.
So they're going to recognize, hmm, dad's not perfect.
I'm not perfect. It's okay.
okay, I can grow. So that's really important.
Good. So yeah, another thing we have to pay attention to is the way that the brain develops.
So let's go back to those two simple brain structures that I discussed.
They're not simple brain structures.
I'm describing them simply because I don't want to bore you.
But when you think about it, the amygdala, this is one of the first brain structures to develop.
I mean, you're pretty much born with that.
You don't need to to teach a baby to cry or get mad.
That is a system, that is an application that came with that operating system.
We don't need to teach that, right?
But when we think about the frontal lobe and the prefrontal cortex in particular, that part of the brain is one of the last things to develop.
Now, this might shock you.
The frontal lobe and the prefrontal cortex of women develops develops faster than the prefrontal cortex and frontal lobe of men.
So when it comes to cognitive development, women will get there to the, to the end point at about 20 years old.
Usually it's about 25 male of 25 years for the, for the male brain to fully develop.
And so what does this, what does this mean?
So as a toddler, we're going to have all these temper tantrums and we're going to feel very strong emotions.
We're going to be laughing and playing and very excited, jumping, and then we're going to be crying like the next second.
It's hard for us to regulate, not because they're bad kids, but a lot of times it's because their brains haven't developed to a point where they can control themselves in that way.
Now, that ability to control themselves will develop with age as the frontal lobe begins to develop.
But we have to remember that even though teenagers may appear more adult -like, they are still very childlike in that cognitive development and what I mean by that is that the limbic system the amygdala is still very strong but that ability to make good decisions to control behavior and those things that is not fully developed yet but at the same time their language capabilities are so it sounds like they're trying to make sense you know but it's not completely connecting and we've run into that situation before not just with kids but with adults as well where it's like hey you know you went from a to
b to Q and you missed all these letters do you not see that and so there we have to remember there's a difference between being right and being persuasive you all can probably identify times in your difficult conversations in general but in particular with kids where you have been objectively correct and you've laid out the data you've laid out the facts and they still weren't getting it and you're like how is this possible right it's probably because they are even though though they might sound articulate, especially the teens, they're operating with the amygdala.
And so they're not thinking clearly.
Let me give an example.
So a couple of weeks ago, Kai was really upset because he lost his football.
I'm laughing now because parenting has given me the opportunity to see the obvious reality of genetics, because this is a very Kwame thing to to do.
So he lost his football and he was blaming everybody.
He's like, yeah, everybody touches my stuff.
It's all gone. I put it right here.
It's not there. It's somebody else's fault.
And so we're like, just look around, you'll find your football.
Just keep looking. And he looks for like 20 minutes, can't find his football.
And I say, I'm, I'm afraid, I phrase this very differently than what my parents would.
I say, Kai, okay, I've been sitting on this couch. I'm going to get up.
and I'm going to look for your football, all right?
What happens if I find it, right?
My parents would say, what am I going to do to you if I find this thing?
I'm like, wait, give me one second.
Let me look again, right?
But I said, okay, you need my help.
I'll get up and look.
So I go upstairs and in the doorframe, right in the middle of the doorframe, the football was on the floor, right in the middle of the doorframe.
I didn't even get fully up the stairs and i saw it and i said and i went back downstairs and i sat down i'm like kai go upstairs and look for your football right and he goes upstairs he finds it and he's like it wasn't there somebody put it there i said kai this comes down to effort this is just an effort thing right if you would have put forth more effort you would have found the football now you all check me on this maybe that's maybe that's an unfair proposition but if i look for two seconds and he looked for 20 minutes I'm assuming that there's a discrepancy between the effort that was given
and the effort that was required.
And Kai was completely unwilling to accept that, right?
Now, this is what happened.
Now I will concede, I argued a lot more than I should have. I should have let this go for a lot sooner.
And here's why. So we were going back and forth.
I even started drawing diagrams. I'm like, these are the effort points that you put in.
This is what you needed to get to put in more effort, right?
He was not getting it.
And so I said, okay, let's let this go.
Let's let this go. Kai, you go by yourself.
Take some time. Do your deep breathing.
And let's continue this conversation.
And then about 20 minutes later, Kai comes back.
He's like, I'm sorry, dad.
I should have looked harder.
That was it. So what happened?
What really happened there beneath the surface?
What happened was Kai was operating with his amygdala.
He was not thinking clearly.
he wasn't really looking for the ball he was marching around the house angry angry the whole time so he could not see the ball he probably walked past it five times but he couldn't see it think about the time the the phrase blind with rage is because you can't process clearly and so I was making very logical points but since he was still very emotional he couldn't process clearly and so when it comes down to having these conversations with our kids we have to recognize that time can serve as a magical, tactical element of these conversations.
Sometimes they just need time to cool down.
Sometimes they are so hot, they're so angry, they're so sad, they're so emotional that even if you say the most articulate and well -reasoned thing, they are cognitively incapable of processing at a level that allows them to understand it, right?
And so don't be afraid to put a little bit of time in these conversations.
You can make your point and say, hey, just think about it.
Here's a question I want you to think about, all right?
What could you do differently so you have a different outcome?
You don't need to answer right now.
Let's come back and let's address this later, right?
And then just as they calm down, they get that time to come to the conclusion themselves and so this is one of those things that we have to recognize a lot of times the things that we're trying to teach them these life lessons they're not very complicated they're not complex but given their emotional state they can't process it at a high level and so you have to be able to recognize this and take the emotional temperature of the room and try to get to a point where they can be receptive to the point that you're making because a lot of times they just need time to cool down and so that is one one
thing that I think is underappreciated when it comes to these conversations, we don't need more tactics or strategies.
A lot of times they just need time.
The last thing that I want to talk about is helping people.
And this is the, you'll see like these tools can be used for adults as well, helping people to recognize the gaps in their understanding.
And so a lot of times we want to just make points.
We're going to tell people things.
This is what you need to do.
This is where you're wrong, this is where I'm right, and those type of things.
That approach is trying to persuade through force.
And a lot of times I think about it in terms of Newton's law of physics.
Let's call this Kwame's law of persuasion.
So Newton's law is every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
Kwame's law of persuasion, every point has an equal and opposite counterpoint.
And so sometimes when you just make points, people get into that combative mode and they just are going to counter the points regardless of the veracity of what they're saying.
And so So instead, if you flip it and think about it through a curiosity -based approach, you can ask questions that help them to reveal their ignorance to themselves.
So I don't even need to get to the point where I'm telling them what to think.
I could just ask them a question.
Question number one, they give their answer and then say, oh, that's interesting because that doesn't seem to comport with this.
So what do you think about this?
What's the connection between this and that?
Because I'm not seeing it.
Can you help me to understand it?
And a lot of times if you ask people to draw a connection that they're trying to make, to explain that connection, when you know that there's not a true connection, then they start to realize, wait a second, that thing that I believed, that thing that I thought, it doesn't really add up.
It doesn't really make sense.
And sometimes the most powerful forms of persuasion are really just helping people to recognize the gaps in their understanding.
And then that is what gives them the requisite humility to be willing to listen to you.
So those are a few tips.
Let me say this too.
We are teaching our kids how to have these conversations too.
And so one of the things that Kai and I did this summer is we actually wrote a book together.
Is this coming up? The Mysterious Map, Kai and Barry's Exciting Journey.
So Kai's birthday is on Thursday.
It's on October 5th.
Let me just say the date.
um so yes if you want to support kai getting this book is a great option so um folks actually simone if you could drop the uh the link to the book the amazon link in the chat that'd be really really helpful but yeah let's open it up we've been going for about 28 minutes i want to hear your thoughts when i see there have been some some points coming up and also what questions do you have for me i'll try my best i will not consider myself a parenting expert by any means not even close i'm just a guy trying trying my best that's it so any interesting points come up simone while we were while we were flowing
ah great perspective lack of rationality plus high emotions equals a recipe for disaster exactly exactly it's um we a lot of times this emotional cocktail blended with just the circumstances of cognitive exhaustion it it makes even the most simple conversation much, much more challenging.
So yeah, it's tough.
And again, this helps us to understand, oh, okay, hey, going into this conversation, I've had a really long day.
I haven't eaten dinner yet.
I am not at my best. Sometimes the best negotiation strategy is to not have a negotiation at that time.
It takes a lot of humility to accept that, but just saying hey now's not a great time let's have this conversation in about just give me half an hour give me half an hour and then then we can do this one of the things i started to kind of normalize in my family is just say daddy needs some daddy time like i just just give me just give me some time here right and um and so we got to the point where sometimes kai can see it he's like do you need some daddy time i was like yes i need some that i need some daddy time and so So it gives him the license to say, you know, I need some Kai time.
I need some time for myself.
I need to calm down.
And so sometimes when I'm having this conversation with him, whether it's a disciplinary conversation or challenging one of his ideas, he'd just say, dad, can I please just go downstairs and be myself for a little bit?
He's 70s. I'm like, that's a fair request. That's a fair request. And then he'll come back more ready to go.
So, yeah. Any other thoughts coming through?
ah yes as adults we can revert to that childhood reasoning when we feel threatened and uncomfortable so true so true and we this is the thing we just have to accept that we have to accept that perfect performance is a myth it's not possible and we just have to recognize oh you know what i'm an adult but i am acting like a child right now right and i think the biggest danger is not being able to recognize that and not being able to course correct or not being willing to accept that.
That's really important.
Well, great. Everybody, this was a fun one.
I appreciate it. It was a little bit off of our standard approach for these LinkedIn events, but let me know what you think about it.
I know it's not a traditional business or leadership -focused episode, but if you find value in it, let me know, and maybe we might bring in some guest experts to talk more about difficult conversations on the personal side too, like family, friends, relatives, all that stuff, kids, spouses, all of that.
Again, certainly not an expert.
I will not claim to be an expert in that, but I'm here trying my best, and I want to get you all access to the best info.
So if this is something that y 'all are interested in, we can find more guests for that too.
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