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This is Roundtable. Hello everybody, welcome to Roundtable.
I'm Ha Young. As we mark the 6th anniversary of China France diplomatic ties in 2024, let's celebrate the vibrant cultural exchange and thriving economic collaboration between our nations.
With bilateral ties, ZTIC seed $100 billion, opportunities for artistic collaboration, knowledge sharing, and mutual understanding have flourished.
Join us as we delve into this rich history, explore the current state of Chinese French cultural dialogue, and look ahead to future prospects for this dynamic partnership.
In the studio with me today is the always delightful Yushun from China.
And joining us remotely is Georgia Messit from France.
It's great to have you both.
Hey everyone, it's Yushun.
Thank you, it's a nice to be here.
Great to have you guys and let's dive right into today's discussion.
Given that 2024 is the China, France, culture, and tourism year, what initiatives are in place to boost tourism between the two countries and how do they aim to enhance economic ties through cultural exchange?
Well, Yushun, let's go to you first.
Yeah, of course. So what I heard is that there is going to be, or there is, an art festival called Cosmone 60, or in English, I think it means crossing 60, which is to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between China and France, and also the China France culture and tourism year.
So this festival runs from April to December, features a plenty of exciting events covering various fields such as visual arts, craft design, drama, dance, music, performances, film, digital technology, and literature, and so on.
And all the activities span across China from north to south, from harbing to shenzhen, and cover a long period of time offering a multitude of exciting presentations.
And one really caught my attention is also serving as the open event of this festival, which is the large-scale exhibition, the forbidden city, and the palace of Versailles.
Yeah, so this is actually offering the public a chance to glimpse the precious collections of the palace of Versailles.
The exhibition brings together cultural relics and artistic treasure from both sides, in showcasing the long history and richness of cooperation and exchanges between France and China.
And I am really looking forward to try to get a ticket of this exhibition, but it's just so hard.
A lot of people flooding to the palace museum and try to get a glimpse of it.
Oh, yeah. As you rightly said, I'm very excited as well.
2024, it's a very particular year and very important for both China and France.
And it's set to celebrate their long-standing cultural and diplomatic ties.
And there are many activities on the agenda, some are concerteurism promoting a third, and special exhibitions, as you rightly mentioned, that caught my attention as well, one featuring China's forbidden city and the France Palace of Versailles.
And this exhibition, just to add, I think it symbolizes the profound and historical cultural linkage between the two nations.
And it's something I would love to have the tickets as well to see in Versailles.
I also think that one of the most important parts of this year will be regarding tourism.
And France has experience, and I find it important to notice a notable search in Chinese tourism in the country.
And also thanks to introduction of a visa-free policy in China for passport holders coming from numerous countries, including France, of the European Union.
This policy will allow travelers to go to China and have many, many more French tourists this year in China.
Oh, yeah, I also heard that the big airport in Paris, I think it is called Châchelet de Gouli or C-D-G.
This airport has transformed into a Chinese friendly airport.
So at this airport in Paris, flight and other information is available in Chinese on every signboard and real time information about flights, two and from China is announced in Chinese and even hot water is available considering the habits of Chinese tourists.
And you know, the airport's official website, terminal information video and tax refund, checking and cash dispensers all have a Chinese interface.
So I think through these moves, people from both countries can experience each other's culture and tradition and finally deepen their mutual understanding through these kind of little trivia things.
Well, you might say they're trivial things, but actually they're of significant matter for tourists.
And I can say that for Chinese people, of course, the hot water is a must, but maybe for French people, I'm not sure if you're more inclined to have icy water.
Well, regardless of the year, yeah, well, Tertier, is that true?
Actually, yes, hot water is really not a thing in Europe, but especially in France.
I could say that there is especially a fresh water available in all the airports for tourists or everyone who wants to have a sip.
So getting to know each other's culture and appreciation, even towards water and having this sensitivity towards tourists, I think it's something extremely important that marks this year and the friendship between the two countries and so different cultures that come across together.
Absolutely. And do you mean that you can drink from the fountain?
Oh, yeah, there are little fountains at the airport where you can either drink from it or just fill you water bottle or wherever you brought with you for traveling.
That's awesome. See, there are already these little things that are really useful to know for tourists.
And of course, with a speedy and clear direction of how to get your tax refund is super important for international tourists.
I suppose, regardless of your nationality, but the Chinese directories on the interfaces are definitely very useful.
And I also like to circle back to one thing that both of you have mentioned, which is the very exciting collaboration between the Palace Museums, Slash, the Fibidne City and the Palace of Versailles.
Because this is not something that out of thinner do these two very prestigious museum institutions decided to join hands.
But our history go way back to the 18th century.
So Louis XIV put in place the context of his relations with Emperor Kong Xi, which took the form of initiatives such as a French as he dispatched his lieutenants to China in 1685 to serve at the Chinese court as mathematicians to the king.
And this process paved the way for the two nations to begin forging a relationship built on mutual trust and admiration, one that remains unfamiliar to many and lasted until the 18th century.
And this special diplomatic relationship and mutual respect helped usher in French appreciation for modern China and Chinese artistry.
And in France, the courts love affair with China and Chinese art shines through in a variety of different ways.
And we're talking about Chinese artworks being imported, altering certain imported artworks notably adding guilt, bronze frames to porcelain pieces and using lacquered panels on French furniture, imitating Chinese products such as the frenzied quest to track down the secret to making Kaolin porcelain.
And Chinese arts marked influence on French art particularly in the field of decorative arts.
And meanwhile, in the Chinese court, many of these French artists and mathematicians also followed after the arrival of the mathematicians of the king and some of whom served the court for a very long time with them.
As intermediary, French culture had an important influence on many fields such as science, art, architecture, medicine, mapping and so on in the Qing court.
And for anybody who's visited the Fibidin city, the clock's gallery will definitely leave an indelible mark.
And definitely that's something we've seen like in this exhibition between these two museums and it is very exciting for all in our country as well as I suppose those in France to get a taste of our shared history, cultural exchange and possibly pondering about the future.
So there are so many things happening and for anybody who's visited France or of course you'll need to go to Paris, of course you'll need to go to Versailles.
And I still remember in 2007 when I visited the Palace of Versailles, I was astounded as someone from China who's familiar with the grandiose of scale, architecture, space and art.
I was astounded by how different and opulent and also hugely baroque and exquisite the Palace of Versailles has to offer.
So I think for anybody who's at this moment, this is a really opportune time for folks of both countries to go and explore all these interesting events as well as unique offerings that the two countries have to give to the world.
And of course that is something that is the unique spark that tourism brings to our lives.
I completely agree with what you said.
There is something special that only tourism can bring and I think that looking towards what has been made to link together friends in China, well it makes tourism easier.
I've never been for example into the forbidden cities and it's something that I would love to do and unfortunately I haven't been yet.
I've only been to Versailles of course and as you said it's something so magnificent and so beautiful.
And I think that in order to complete my experience and for other French listeners going in China especially now and having this occasion to visit this exhibition and the friendship between the two countries, I think that this is the year and the moment to do that and it's something as you said tourism only can bring.
Yeah absolutely and with that, Quasimond 60 Festival that you should mention, it is the biggest cultural event outside of France coming from France and also it will be featuring more than 400 activities in over 30 cities in China this year.
So there are plenty of things for you to discover if you are here in China.
Yeah exactly and that's also I would like to mention because if you would like to experience a culture of course you can go to the museums but the museum is not the only place that you can go.
So a lot of these events they are also I think showcasing you know the splendid culture of both cultures.
So we can see not only these exhibitions but also some performances and celebrations will be held and also actually China is a huge exporter of cultural goods to friends so we can see according to Ero Statts, the goods including visual arts and crafts, performance and celebration items, audio, visual media and books accounting for 32% of the EU's total imports
of cultural goods in 2022 and this also makes China the leading source of cultural goods imports for the EU.
So I think overall while the cultural goods trade between China and friends is already substantial and both sides recognize the you know potential for further growth and are taking measures to facilitate greater exchanges in this sector.
Yes I completely agree with you and I think that trade in general culture of goods as you mentioned is very important between the two countries and for this reason people to people exchange is also getting easier and it's something well as we mentioned many times thanks to the visa free travel.
This policy will help and encourage individuals to explore each other cultures fostering great mutual appreciation and understanding.
As you mentioned and I completely agree museums and history and everything related to that helps us understand the past we have together which is as we mentioned extremely important and reach in culture and art and everything that encompasses art but at the same time I think the 2024 year of tourism will really deepen the relations for the future which is we have very
very important grounds and we will build on them in order to even more foster this great exchange and collaboration.
Yes and how have modern cultural trends in China and France been influenced by each other particularly in cinema literature and you know the art scene.
Well I think that the cultural exchange between both China and friends has significantly shaped modern cultural trends in both countries.
I wanted to encompass more the domains of fashion cinema and literature as you may as you mentioned and I think that this dialogue between the two countries has been fostering a very vibrant fusion of both tradition and modernity which is something that both countries are very unique in having such a reach cultural heritage but at the same time so many new fashion and things
happening. So I think that starting from fashion in a realm of fashion the influence is bidirectional yes and talking about literature literally exchanges between China and France are extremely important and have been very important marked by mutual exploration of the tension as I mentioned between tradition and modernity.
I wanted to cite just contemporary Chinese writers such as Yu Hua that reflected tradition and practices and one at the same time they engage in modern day issues and that resonate with some other French authors who balance a historical influence and contemporary relevance.
So these literally dialogues that are happening and have been happening have allowed authors from both cultures to share perspectives and enriching both literally a landscape.
As regards to cinema cinema is extremely important in France and some filmmakers such as Zhang Yimo and Jia Zhang Ke have gained international recognition also in France and of course in the international arena and are blending traditional Chinese narratives and contemporary themes which is something that it's happening in France as well.
French cinema is known for its very rich legacy and he's exploring universal themes through French lands that has found a receptive audience also in China.
After this reason some ways of cinema and literature that might seem very distant from each other and not really talking to each other are actually cross-cultural collaborations that influence each other in having the same very important themes.
Yeah actually that also reminded me of that you know the great combination of art.
I remember at this year's Spring Festival Gala artists from China and France actually performed together on stage you know interpreting musicals and showcasing the exquisite French art to the Chinese people and also the world and that is actually allowing people to experience I think the romance of art from friends I think and actually back in 2017 China and France
have agreed to develop cooperation through many exchange of expertise and training programs to preserve and utilize a lot of these you know cultural and heritage sites which I think reflect our cultural diversity and I think this includes organizing exhibitions seminars by institutions like the Pompey-Doux Center in Paris and the Museum of Fine Arts West
funding Shanghai so I think these collaborations are just great and of course they are going to be more and more collaborations like that.
Yes and I joining the choir certainly I've seen that in the cinematic universe we have a lot of exchange between the industry practitioners in both countries and sometimes when you watch movies you can just tell or sense that there are certain tricks that have been borrowed from some of the French art house movies which do have a significant and long history as Georgia mentioned
earlier and I think for Chinese people it's also really promising to and I think usually exciting and makes you feel proud in seeing that the Chinese authors the ones that Georgia you've mentioned and alongside Moieën and Yellen Kuh and many of them have gained recognition in France and in other international countries as well and I think this might be a little
bit of a misnomer of some sort but I look at some of the details or trends published by the international book fairs and it was really astounding to me that the readership numbers are really high in France and also to see the Chinese authors their books sell in France I thought that was a really interesting fact to take note and these cultural exchanges have enriched
the artistic landscapes for both countries leading to the emergence of new creative synergies and the cross fertilization of ideas over the past 60 years how have cultural exchange programs between China and France evolved and what the impact have they had on the mutual understanding and appreciation of each other's cultures.
Yes as you mentioned one of the most important parts of the styling between these two cultures is rediscovering the shared heritage we have through cultural exchange programs that allow people to rediscover each other's heritage fostering insights into tradition and artistic expressions so thanks to many initiatives that have been going on I just want to
cite the hello China which is a tourist promotion event that encourages exploration of each other's nation and well of course the China friends year of cultural tourism which is at this year a decade of fine arts and exchange that has laid solid foundation for the various collaboration as we mentioned and something that I just wanted to add on when I'm in Paris especially
I they often visit libraries or well yes shops that sell books and recently I would say in the last five years Chinese literature has been as you said it's just something that I've seen with my eyes and I don't know well the details and the number but I see a very growing interest in Chinese modern literature and also past literature with special places in bookshores
where a person can actually get interested in and buy the rest books as I actually did in order to approach to Chinese literature that's fantastic yeah certainly we're seeing that there are more collaborations and exchange between people to people publisher house to publisher house and cinema to cinema between the two countries yeah and also I saw that you know
the two countries have established institutional frameworks for so many years to facilitate cultural exchanges such as the China France mixed committee on agriculture and agri food and the China France business council and regular dialogues on various sectors like energy health and legal affairs I think these mechanisms have enabled a structured cooperation exchanges
across diverse domains and it is just so wonderful to see a lot of these cooperations when you have a French person and a Chinese person together we got to dive deep into the cuisines I believe that the peoples of both countries are very proud of their cuisines and there's definitely a very rich history that goes way back and have you seen sort of the ways that maybe
the two styles of cuisines have crossed paths if not you know the popularity of the French cuisines here in China and the popularity of Chinese cuisines in France this is actually very interesting and it's something extremely important to delve in because as you mentioned food is something that we all appreciate and both countries have so rich history and so delicious
food in both sides at the same time so different and something that I've been noticing is the presence of actually Chinese typical ingredients that wouldn't be in a normal French cuisine or in a normal French house gaining popularity what I've seen and what I've noticed of course Chinese cuisine is extremely popular in France I would say in all Europe but especially
in France and is extremely appreciated but at the same time it's being transported into the cuisines so it's not something that people are going outside together actually cooking Chinese dishes and getting more and more interested I'm saying this because I participated to many a couple classes on how to make jiao zzu bao zzu and typical Chinese food I would say
and French people are very interested in making them on their own so they're actually buying well many ingredients that they don't normally use in French cuisine so for this reason I think that Chinese cuisine has a very big influence I don't know if it's the same in China regarding French cuisine it's very different but it's gaining popularity even more yeah I
think we share the you know same feelings here French cuisines were French restaurants I think normally we always treat these restaurants as you know a lot of them are high-end or elegant restaurants you need to find dining yeah this is very you know fabulous restaurants that you want to go but another I think phenomenon that I would like to mention is that a lot of French
taste or French favor are actually happening or existing in Chinese agriculture industry so we actually discussed some of these hidden specialties in China and one of them is fua gwa in ang hui yeah this is of course we know that fua gwa as one of the world's three delicacies and many people immediately think of friends when we're talking about it however this time
you can actually find of course local people say that's authentic French flavor in this little county which is you know very well known for goose meat and goose feather but right now they are actually with a lot of these local industrial upgrading the region introduced the world famous fua gwa specialized breed the land goose originally from friends so actually
they are producing a lot of these local specialties but actually they have very authentic or great taste of French flavor of fua gwa this is I had no idea about this but it's so nice that it's been appreciated so much for how I think that it's very popular but at the same time in many other countries neighboring friends you won't find it as you find it in China as a mention which is great yes
and talking about cuisines actually there's one thing that maybe the Chinese and French share that is arguably maybe we're both the more adventurous explorers of food for example before putting a chance to taste French cuisine I had no idea that snails could be brewed in red wine and become a great delicacy that's almost like a signature dish at least it's been
sort of publicized that way about French cuisine out of the many delicious dishes that it has to offer I just also want to double check with you Georgia is it true or is it become a bit of a culinary stereotype about the snail stereotype I don't know it's a stereotype but it's it's actually very true and I completely agree with you and I've never thought of it this way
I think that both fisines are very adventurous as you said so they don't stop at the classic ways of cooking especially meat but go actually beyond that and some it's usually not very much understood because in the French cuisine frogs are also very popular and yes it's something that it's not understood from yes in other neighboring countries and they there are many
jokes around that but I think yes that putting aside and without knowing you're actually eating a frog everyone would find it very good also okay actually these rather large frogs I think they're farmed for the specific purpose well culinary purpose and they're very popular here in China and just a small question here Georgia when French folks enjoy these frogs
do they use the calorie of knife and a fork to dissect the thing and put it in their mouth or do they just use their hands it could be both I agree that a frog and also snail seems kind of small to eat but the taste is actually very close to chicken so if you're wondering what it tastes like but yeah it's actually a delicacy and going back on what we have in common I think that both
cultures and both fisines have a special offer ducks I tasted the traditional I don't know how to say it in English well the Beijing duck the picking duck yes oh yeah the picking duck and it's it was amazing as well as French duck we choose more into sauces and into wine cooked into wine but in confront to other European countries and other world duck is not as present
as in France I think that it's something we have in common so this passion for ducks very much indeed and when you have a chance well we can get you over here to Beijing I'm definitely taking you out to my favorite duck restaurant and it's not the stuff that you can find in a tour guide book you know it's yes I have a favorite that I would like to recommend to you and also when you
look at the popularity of French cuisine here in China definitely I think we're seeing more of these French restaurants with the Michelin star-studded ones mushroom as well as the more affordable ones especially in bread and pace especially the eateries that serve breads and pastries have become more and more popular in cities like Beijing and Shanghai and especially
in Shanghai from the 1920s onwards French restaurants and cafes have opened their doors and I think it has become a staple if not a established category of restaurants that people would love to visit in this country and that discussion kind of makes me kind of hungry right now and France is the dominant force in the global luxury brand market according to a report
by Bain and Company luxury study the global luxury market is worth about $250 billion in 2024 and France is a global powerhouse in the luxury brand industry with brands such as Chanel Louis Vuitton and Hermes leading the way in terms of market share and brand value while China has emerged as the world's second largest luxury consumption market with significant
growth potential in 2024 the Chinese luxury market is valued at approximately 460 billion yuan or more than 63 billion US dollars with a growth rate of 12 percent and how have French luxury brands influenced a global fashion sphere and what can we learn from their success in terms of branding marketing and product development and so on Georgia I guess you know it's
time for you maybe to offer some of your thoughts about this quite astonishing but also well accepted fact that France is the powerhouse when it comes to fashion yes absolutely and I think this is kind of a national pride in something everyone is really proud of so I would say that French luxury brands have left a very important mark on the global fashion sphere and have shaped
industry standards and consumer expectations to this day you've mentioned some very iconic brands such as Hermes and Vuitton and it's interesting to see how many of this and I'm sorry I'm telling more about the history of Hermes it was actually born as a very humble harness workshop in Paris and to this day it is the essence of luxury and craftsmanship and actually
exclusive exclusivity so I think that studying and seeing how these brands now I'm talking about Hermes but there are many other side have cultivated a very important aura of prestige this is this durability around its product with very important icons such as the Kelly bag and I think that this control of marketing that there are exercises and the essence of French
luxury brands is around this not it being available available for everyone but only for a niche and has created some so very influence that transcend mere fashion trends and actually spread enduring values of excellent heritage and strategic adaptation to the market for this reason many others brands and yes and fashion brands I'm trying to adapt and copy and creating
this aura around them and yes for this reason I think that French luxury brands have for valuable lessons for other brands or in general to seek longevity and all you're in the app very competitive today's fashion interesting and are emphasizing quality heritage and all these very important qualities in a fashion world that is going very fast but some brands are still
very important and have iconic pieces that will not be passing or being forgotten.
Absolutely I agree I think a lot of these brands they are shaping the trends and setting standards for a lot of these quality craftsmanship and exclusivity as you said some of these iconic I think brand identity and heritage they are deeply rooted in their rich I think history and their ability to preserve and reinvent their signature styles or logos or design code
has I think allowed these brands to maintain a strong brand equity and a desirability across generations.
Oh yes and I suppose one thing that so many of these French fashion houses have done superbly is the mastery of branding and storytelling alongside everything else that you guys have said I'll give you an example as well when considering the most independent and successful female figure in fashion Coco Chanel's name and evident yes her name inevitably comes to
mind and of course you can argue it's due to her grand breaking designs her iconic creations such as the little black dress and the Chanel tweed suit redefined women's fashion and challenged traditional norms but the ability to tell a good story and have enough capital behind it to carry on that story not any other I think is something of a success chapter to learn
from that book and also more over Chanel's keen understanding of branding from her distinctive logo to Carl Lagerfeld's emphasis on luxury and elegance and keeping it going for the three decades that he served on the company transformed the name into a global symbol of sophistication and style and well that's one story to tell but also in modern business world
just look at what LVMH has done in the last two decades the ruthless MNAs and acquiring existing coveted brands and then giving them a revamp and using a ton of capital to push them to new heights I think that's also you know really stellar business acumen that has been showcased by yes this particular company although some people might argue that it's rather ruthless
and maybe to some extent the pure artistry is lost in the midst of it but if you only look at numbers I guess it is quite the business success that no one can deny and also I like to ask you guys about the perception of these luxury brands how do French young people perceive French luxury brands do these brands play a role in your everyday lives and by the way when it comes
to the drip are thrifting and shopping vintage straight up the way to go for French Gen Z these days oh I actually love this question I would say that luxury brands in general but especially of course French luxury brands still play a very important role in everyday life they are perceived as we mentioned as through the lens of aspiration elegance and yeah important
brands and very high and planned such as Chanel, Joe, LV are not just fashion labels they are symbols and they are regarded as status symbols so wearing a particularly scarf or a particular bag tells a lot about the person and it's the person carries it out with pride and yeah so I think that they still play a very important role but I'm really and really I find this question extremely
interesting there is an admiration towards luxury and luxury items but there's also a very important growing trend among young people in France and it's shifting more towards thrifting and shopping vintage so everywhere in Paris or in other important French cities you would find many thrippri which is a thrift shop where people can go inside and find unique
pieces I think that is one of the most important reasons for young people to go into thrippri or thrift shop to have unique pieces that they only own which can also be high end and from fashion brands but from past collections or vintage collections that are not into selling anymore and they're not available in magazines in large stocks so this even more uniqueness
of the brands and they're only being few pieces makes it even more attractive of course thrifting is very popular also due to sustainability and affordability factors so we could find pieces from all brands but a trend or a drip that has been going on it's mixing vintage pieces with contemporary items and it has becoming a fashion approached personal style that allows
individuals to create their fresh and personalized looks that can mix we could say a vintage Chanel jacket or vintage hamez scarf with a new one or a new pant or something from the same brand yes that's something I love to do I mean this is I think the true testament to one's fashion sense and also you're mixing different styles different periods of time together and it's
just such a creative joy in my opinion yeah I love fashion yes it's so interesting it's something that you pick yourself so it's not something that you find in a store available in large quantities but it's something that you choose and you style however you want so it's really your way of doing style or be re-loving something that has been made maybe for a different
purpose or in a different time frame and I think I completely agree with you this is so nice about fashion the way it can be reinvented yes and also maybe this is showing that the younger generation moving beyond conspicuous consumption and demonstrate their personal style in a more authentic environments holy conscious ways and well this is actually something
that I'm curious to hear from our listeners and I would invite our listeners to come up with your own observation that is are we moving beyond conspicuous consumption is that that maybe the really fit physique or good health or you know fabulous style that is not mounted by dollar or yuan signs become something that is coveted for so we'll see what happens with that and guys
with the Paris Olympics approaching how do you envision the event showcasing France's rich cultural heritage and innovative spirit and what opportunities do you see for strengthening international relations through this global stage yes actually we can see a large number of mascot figurines and toys actually will be manufactured in China and I heard that 80%
of these mascot figurines are made in China so actually I saw that according to statistics from EU customs EU is actually a city in Geojiang province in southern China so from January to February this year exports from EU to France reached 540 million yuan that's about 74 million US dollars which is a year on year increase of 42% with exports of sports goods increasing
by more than 70% and also we can see the data from Alibaba's international platform shows that during the peak season of foreign trading March this year the online export of sports goods to France searched and the online export volume of popular items such as tennis clothing customs sports uniforms and training helmets outdoor sportswear sports cameras and golf
bags increased at least four fold and totally a lot of these manufacturers or factories are contributing to the I think establishment of this year's a Paris 2024 so we're going to see I think of course a fabulous sports event but also a lot of these you know surrounding products are also going to showcase their vitality from China this is actually very interesting
to see how the numbers soar and how exchanges between the two countries is improving and it shows how the Olympics as you mentioned and I completely agree is that only about sports but everything that encompasses and goes around so I would say that the feeling in France is everyone is very excited for the Olympics maybe a little bit stress also but I think it's a good
stress and yes but there's of course a lot of tension and but it's also an opportunity to showcase cultural heritage and collaborate with actually the world and there are many collaboration between China and France and I think that one of the most important is the expertise that China has in having already had the Olympic Games in 2008 so in order to help friends
and how to deal with it and there's also been there have been some athlete exchanges between the two countries that are training training camps and sports events and this helps promoting friendship and cooperation among athletes also coaching and technical sports where French coaches and experts collaborate with Chinese athletes and teams and I think this is very
important in order to promote Olympic values and how sports and both countries the values that we actually want to promote this friendship respect and excellence since both countries and all countries in the world excel in very different sports and it's it's such an occasion to strengthen bilateral relations already being in the year of tourism of this very
important 2024 year I think that the Olympic Games play even a adds something to this year and helps strengthen relations between the two countries yes and looking forward what do you see for the next decade of Chinese French relationships especially in the realms of culture art trade tourism and all the things we mentioned I think that I would expect even more
cross-cultural collaborations between French and Chinese artists in the scene of cultural exchanges so from exhibitions performances that are already present but I think that since we've been growing so much in both art creativity cultural exchanges and both trade and economics this is expected to grow even more and this year will mark a milestone for these
collaborations in everything going back to tourism and travel I think that's from this year and going on further Frenchers will explore China's circle sides and I hope that the visa free policy will go the other way around so that Chinese tourists will flock to friends and will experience cuisine landmarks and also frogs so everyone can have this special experience
and something that it's very important I think it's a education system and how university already are collaborating between the two countries but I and this is more scientific research language study language exchanges and people to people exchange as well as high and dialogues between the two countries and I think that this is a very the next decade will be very
promising for Franco-Chinese relations and will delve into a more deeper cultural exchange a more economic operation but all my visions are extremely positive.
Yeah also I think this year we have already witnessed a plenty of exciting art and cultural activities unfold and I believe that in the I think near future not only in the coming year there will be even more interesting events that can spark cultural communication between our two countries wonderful and as we bring our discussion to a close I like to express my sincere
gratitude to our guests Georgia Messe from France and you should from China over the past 60 years our two nations have forged an increasingly vibrant partnership one that has been fueled by the creativity innovation and cross cultural dialogue of the younger generations through initiatives like the China France culture and tourism here as well as groundbreaking
artistic collaborations we've witnessed the power of cultural exchange to bridge divides foster mutual understanding and push the boundaries of artistic expressions thank you for tuning in you can find us on Apple podcast at roundtable china i'm hei young we'll see you next time
