This is the Pursuit of Wellness podcast, and I'm your host, Mari Llewellyn.
Welcome back to part two of my Girl Chat with Fi.
We pick right where we left off in part one with Fi's vaginal cyst that landed her in the ER.
We're really feeling bad about that.
So I would highly recommend you guys listen because it's actually a very interesting situation that I want you guys to avoid.
And she gives us all the deets.
We're also answering your questions from Fee's Ozempic journey and real estate career to honest thoughts on skinny talk and body image and wellness.
If you haven't listened to part one yet, go check it out first to hear all the life updates and juicy stories.
Let's jump right in.
I've never heard of this in my life.
It was crazy. Good.
Apparently like 3 % of women get them.
So I'm obviously blessed.
less or maybe it's two percent this is very you so spot on like so you always have these weird issues so me coded also this whole time i'm like telling my boyfriend i'm like yeah like there's like something going on i like didn't want to be like i'm in the er but he actually texted me that morning and he's like hey like hope you have a great day and i was like could be better i'm in the er because of like my situation he was like what he felt so bad he was like it's all my fault i was like this was a group effort so i will take half the blame but so finally the woman she doesn't even make me sit
in the waiting room she rushes me back to a bed i'm like laying there they were all so sweet everyone was so nice there but also like i'm sitting there and they're like so what's the problem and i'm like my vagina is swollen and i can't walk and it hurts so bad and i can't even pee and i can't like do anything and it was this male doctor and i was like oh god like this is it's just like so it's so intimate and like yeah oh like at least when you're like giving birth or the gyno you know like this guy's seen a million vaginas yeah like but he was super nice he's like okay like we have a private
gynecological room we can put you in okay so they put me in this room but like i'm literally it's like a room probably this big i'm just like laying in there by myself with like this little robe on for like an hour probably he comes and checks it out and he's like like that's infected like you have a bad infection i'm like great and that's why the other one stops yes and he's like and that's why it is so painful and even the nurse that was with me she was like this i've heard people say this is worse than childbirth like having these things go on so yeah they put some like numbing ointment on me
and then oh my god you guys i literally was like crying screaming did they give you like no they didn't give me anything like that they literally put like a gel like one on and then they did numbing shots right into it and when i tell you guys like imagine like novocaine getting like your teeth done yeah but like on steroids and into your vagina no no no into your infect no it was the worst pain i've ever felt my life and i was literally holding this bless her heart this nurse and this doctor man i was was holding her hand like squeezing crying crying crying also i'm in the back room just like
crying like sobbing because i was i was embarrassed and i was in pain and oh my god like tmi like my legs are like butterflied open and they're shaking like uncontrollably and the guy kept having to like hold them because i was like i think i was like having a panic attack slash in so much pain yeah um damn i feel like they should put an id by my fucking self too i'm like so they numb me that helped immensely and then he just sliced him open and drained them and yeah that was not both of them both of them what comes out we don't want to know i don't even he was like don't look down here you do
not want to see what's coming in stop stop stop stop stop stop stop and he went through three packs of gauze and he kept telling the nurse he needed more gauze it's giving the pit like how's our vagina girl in room seven literally it was awful um but yeah but so they do all this right the minute they're done it was like i stood up really and it was like nothing had ever happened like it was like immediate relief did you have to take oh you took antibiotics i took so he gave me another antibiotic told me to finish the antibiotics that she gave me start these new ones like three times for 10 days
and gave me a really strong he didn't give me like um pain pills but he gave me like a strong ibuprofen to take so yeah i started taking all that and they gave me a little shot in my arm like a pain shot too or like some kind of steroid shot or something to help with like the inflammation oh so then my mom by the way kathy's like freaking out because i'm going through all this she's like i'm booking a flight i'm coming thing so Kathy gets in the next day to like take care of me yeah it swells up again no no yes no it came it did not he did not get everything so it got worse again and it was so painful
and then the other side was like really really painful this is like my worst so then I had to go back to the gyno like not three days late no not to the ER I almost went back to the ER and then I was like f it I'm going to go so finally got an appointment went back to the gyno saw my original gyno told her i was in the er she went in numbed it again she did not numb it nearly as much as the er did and i felt everything shit and it was awful god and meanwhile my little cute gyno is like this little cute family friendly like dead quiet like the little lobby there's like little kids playing and stuff
and i'm in there like screaming the f word because this woman is slicing open my already already sliced coochie oh no yeah my mom thank god my mom was there but like i was also like i was in so much pain i was like laughing like i was like screaming and laughing because that's so you coded you always do that in the cold plunge yeah i laugh yeah when i'm like in pain and uncomfortable i laugh so yeah but she did that cleared everything up everything yeah now we're good to go what does like are you good down there i'm fine yeah thank god thank god did they say like don't have sex for like a month
or something they didn't say anything like that but they were were just kind of like give it some time yeah which luckily like like don't go in any hot tubs or yeah no no no i'm like well i'm supposed to still do like hot baths and stuff but i'm not supposed to like yeah like i haven't gone in the pool or like anything like that oh my god not to get like so graphic but like so if these things keep coming back they have all these other procedures they can do they can put a catheter in it what they put a little balloon where the cyst was and then a catheter out of it so it can continue draining
and apparently it's really really painful and I was like I do not want a catheter down there so luckily they were like you don't need to do that this time like maybe if it returns or some people get them entirely removed which like if I if they keep the glands yeah you can get them removed but I know I immediately was like does that like how does that work like are you never gonna be wet ever again she was like there's other things like the actual like inside of you has glands and you don't ever ever want to use lube again obviously well i will be using a water -based lube now i feel like you shouldn't
use i mean i probably won't but like i well now i'm like all effed up though because i'm like scared to like i'm scared to have sex ever again i will say but it's okay i'm sure i feel like you don't do well with any products like sunscreen i'm so sensitive to stuff i it really could have been such a combination of things but i do not wish that upon anyone and i'm telling you again i know childbirth is probably like it's awful but like after that i'm like bring it on yeah bring it on because that was awful if you get bartholin cysts you are not alone period it's so it's embarrassing though it's
like so awareness for bartholin yeah like seriously it's reminding me of when my eye almost burnt out when i got the uv flash burn and she said people say it's worse than it was yeah the worst thing i've ever been through but it's like these niche injuries that did it happen yeah it's so um it's such a reality check because you're like wait i was so normal before this oh i was like i will never take going on a walk with my dog for granted ever again i'm curious how many girls will respond and say they've had it yeah i think they're more this is the thing i actually think they're more common than like
two percent but i think people are embarrassed about them i think about it or like i've seen girls be like oh yeah i get them all the time i just like let it pop itself and i'm like the fuck but also like they can come and not get infected yeah for whatever reason mine got infected so probably the products i don't know but i i do not wish that upon anyone it was really awful yeah well but i'm good now she's she's situated she is situated and sewn together no i asked the doctor i was like are you gonna like sew things up and he was like he was like that area is he literally was like it's a mucus
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you didn't make it through i got through the first one i was talking with a friend about this another girl that read the first one she was like it was good but like it wasn't like i'm sorry anyone that thinks that's spicy you didn't wait you didn't wait you didn't wait the other books are spicy yes i just feel like it was so hyped up about like how like sexy it was and i was like by the end it's nasty like nasty like seriously okay maybe if anyone's read it knows nesta you know what i'm talking about that girl's nasty oh i'm reading um queen of shadows series by sarah j mass similar vibe but actually
not similar it's like way less is that the mirror one there are so many yeah i actually never know the title of the book i'm reading because i read on kindle oh i just finished a book yesterday and i didn't even know i was close to the end now i'm on the tower of terror or something i'm very confused by them all okay there's like all all there's like okay there's akatar akatar there's fourth wing game of thrones well sorry not game of thrones what am i talking about what's fourth wing i meant um fourth wing okay that's different different author different author i read that too what's the other
one that everyone there's like three or four and then the queen of shadows is sarah j mass again it's like this fantasy like okay genre but they i really like them i mean i like you're a big harry potter harry potter like twilight that was my shit yeah i did love twilight yeah i'm kind of of a nerd. Like I'm back in my reading era and I'm obsessed.
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Is Fiona going to be called Auntie Fee?
Of course. Period. What else?
What else would I be called?
Literally the kid's going to think you're my sister probably.
100%. Is she still taking Ozempic?
I am still taking it.
Do you take Ozempic or something else?
I take semaglutide, a compounded semaglutide.
Okay. I think it's B12.
Do you still take it every week?
No. So I was gonna say so I've lowered my dose I now do half the dose that I was doing and I've been doing it every two weeks and it's like awesome like I honestly have no side effects anymore yeah and it's just enough that I I feel like it still helps with my binging and stuff yeah but I will say there was and I'm sure a lot of people that you know go on it can can say similarly like when I was in the thick of being on it and I was on like the highest dose like I was not eating as much as I should have been I was trying but like it it is hard like you have to force yourself to eat like I definitely
got to a point like it was kind of in the thick of when I was losing most of the weight also I was post breakup like I was going through a lot so I think it was a lot like a lot of things combined during that time there was kind of like end of summer fall last year and I will say like like I lost a lot of hair.
It's funny. I'm like, I have all these baby hairs now.
And at first I thought it was breakage, but I think it's new hair.
But I lost, like I was showering and losing clumps of hair.
Terrifying. Was not eating enough.
And yeah, like I definitely, I got to a point where I couldn't cycle anymore because I literally like, it was exhausting.
Like I hardly had enough energy to like walk.
So don't do that. yeah um I think there are healthier ways to go about it and like now like I'm on a much smaller dose and I only do it every other week and I can work out normally I you know I eat very normally now I can eat pretty much I eat anything I want basically but like I can not overeat it would be interesting to see how it is if I did just go cold turkey and go off of it and see if tendencies come back but i also feel like i'm sure my stomach has shrunk yeah since before so like i will eat less either way because my stomach is not as big as it was to eat more um but also when you have like
a binge eating disorder and stuff and again i'm obviously not a professional but a lot of it's like the pattern and the cycle yeah and it's i feel like now it's been a year that i've been on on this like I've broken that cycle and so I don't have the thought pattern that I used to have about like yeah oh if I get a pint of ice cream I need to eat it all so that I don't eat it tomorrow when it's Monday and I'm starting my new diet like my brain doesn't think that way anymore because there's no more like restrict restrict or binge it's just kind of like I let myself have it if I want it yeah like
the other day I bought a Trader Joe's oh my god these cookie ice cream sandwiches from trader joe's you guys if you have had them you know that what i'm talking about and like i i remember i got those when i lived with my ex and him and i would like crush the box and there were four of them we'd eat them two nights back to back because like they were in the house and i wanted to eat them i've had like a pack in my fridge for like weeks haven't had one i had one yesterday and i ate half of it and i put the half down and i forgot about it and like like it melted what like never in a million years
would i've done that but it's like i finally can just have like a serving yeah and feel like fulfilled which is like a lot of freedom in that yeah because you're not like afraid of going to restaurants so like it adds freedom yeah which i do think you know glp ones and people leaning on these things like i do think people that have dealt with binging tendencies and eating disorder tendencies like i think this is so no it gives you like a reset yeah that i always felt like was you get really hard on yourself because you think it's you not having self -control um or that you're like weak and you
give into stuff and it like really fucks with your mindset um and especially if you are you know you know a bit overweight and you like really want to you know get healthier and lose some weight but you just are in this awful pattern that like you literally feel like you cannot break it's an an addiction like i had a food addiction for sure to some degree yeah just like other people have addiction to substances like it is an addiction um and i think it's such a good tool for people dealing with that so again you can go overboard i think i did for a little bit but yeah now i just like i would say
like i'm on a maintenance dose and i take it just enough to like still feel like like I don't binge yeah but I can eat and yeah I feel like um the biggest problem I've noticed with people taking it is they take too much too frequently yeah and I have heard I think Andrew Huberman spoke about it and he takes it once a month oh wow like microdoses it once a month like top health wow people are taking it at a very low dose and it's still having a good effect I wonder under if like the pharmaceutical industry like wanted us to believe that you have to take it every week because it makes them more
money obviously probably but maybe it's not even designed that way well it depends like he is probably not doing it for the weight loss aspect he's probably doing it like i will say the inflammation that i've like yeah that there are so many other amazing i know you've had like dr tina on and other experts that talk about all the other awesome effects from it um but yeah i mean i think the reason they do the once a week is like for people actively trying to lose weight but like if you're taking a high dose once a week like you're not eating no you're not it is so strong it changes it is so strong
it changes people's personalities like greg was telling me this like he was working with someone who has lost like 30 or 40 pounds on it and he was like her whole personality changed yeah it's crazy like it just not in a like that happens when you take too much i think but it makes you flat you lose your drive like probably almost like taking adderall kind of you know i like i honestly i should probably do more research about it because like i take it obviously but it is such an interesting drug to me that it has a physical effect but like the physical effect really comes from the mental like
i think it does something with your pituitary gland well it really helps people with addiction apparently like and also for anyone who thinks i've never i didn't take it during my um i remember there was a whole video on tiktok people thought i took it to to lose 90 pounds i did not i absolutely did not no i lost weight naturally yes but i'm very interested in it obviously because it's in my industry and like people talk about it and i'm also not anti it like yeah maybe i would take it one day if i was struggling to lose baby weight who knows like i i love talking about it and hearing about it
and i'm not judgmental of it at all it is funny though when you follow someone and all of a sudden they're super skinny and you're like wait what happened yeah i mean yeah like we all know we all know we all know but yeah Yeah.
I think, I think it's a great tool and I, I appreciate when people talk about it.
Like that's why I've been so open to talk about it because yeah, I think it's awesome.
I think people are curious.
Yeah. I think it's important.
I've definitely had a lot of DMS recently of people being like, are you still on it?
Like I think a lot, a lot of people are on it.
Like the more people I talk to, it's changing trends in the supplement industry.
Everyone wants protein now.
It's like lowering the amount of food people are buying and ordering.
Like it's crazy. It's It's like changing everything.
I think they should give it to people at rehab.
Yeah. Right? It really helps with those tendencies.
Addiction. Yeah. And, you know, obviously it's a medication.
Like, you should speak to a doctor.
It's not for everyone.
Some people do have bad side effects from it just like any medication could.
But, I don't know. I love it.
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page the other day I got served a girl doing like a hot pilates class and she's like drenched in sweat it was some voiceover being like yeah like I want to be skinny like blah blah blah skinny and I was like not interested like I don't I don't love that like I don't need that like pushed in my face and I don't as someone who has gone through oh my gosh I was on the tumblr like eating disorder yeah like end for one minute where I'm like looking at these girls that are like obviously very sick and like being like I want to look like that too also I've been on the other end where I I think you know
when I I was like at my heaviest I was like the self -love my body's beautiful as it is I don't need to lose a single pound like I've been all over the place at the end of the day I just think it's like what makes you feel the best yeah and I'm not saying thin is better or thin makes you feel the best but I just know like it's it's to each person you know I mean but I don't know I don't love that kind of content I do think like young girls that see it that agree that you know their frontal lobes have not developed yet and they see something like that and they're like i want to look like that so i'm
gonna eat 12 almonds for a meal like that's not here's my take i think i i do not agree that people should be canceled for saying that they want to be to lose weight 100 i think you should be able to say yeah i want to lose a couple pounds and feel good about myself i think that should be okay yeah however i think you have to be very aware that when you're posting on a large platform 12 year olds are seeing it 13 year olds 15 year olds and i feel i'm not to like i'm not tooting my own horn but from the beginning when i started posting about my journey and i obviously lost a lot of weight i was very
clear that i was a very unhappy unhealthy person when i was overweight like i was at my lowest point in my life and i was posting about weight lifting yeah muscle getting strong getting enough protein like that was always my the forefront front but i feel like you never made it you never did it from a point of like i was unhappy because i was overweight it wasn't about like there was way more into it you know what i mean if you actually followed what i was doing it was never about the way i looked it was always about the way i felt yeah and i still am like also i never wanted to be thin yeah i
was like i want to look like i work out and you talking about like healthier options and alternatives to eat because you were like because when i was eating this that was full of sugar it was making my mood swing and And I felt awful, like, you know, mentally.
And yeah, I always think it's interesting.
Like, I feel like we've talked about this before, when you see, I don't want to say girl, but like when you see someone going through their like wellness journey and you've been where they have been already, like you're not to say you're further on the journey, but like seeing someone that's like just getting started in the gym.
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It's cute. It is. but like you're gonna go through like the i have my shaker bottle with my protein like it's just so funny to see and then like a gallon of water and then it's like maybe get a little too drastic and you're like oh oh now you're on the stair stepper for 45 minutes a day and you're weight lifting okay period and they're like i feel amazing and then there's always like the burnout the burnout yeah and the swing back and they're like yeah oh my god i was like killing like i know i said i was so healthy and felt great but i actually was killing myself and now i've 180 like like just
the journey of everyone is so interesting and it's so you know like for each person it's gonna be so different i look at my la stuff and i'm like oh my god i was at the gym at six in the morning and i was shredded yeah and i was like yeah this is how i live my life and now i could i mean i work out burgers on tiktok oh god like no carbs you know you got canceled for eating yeah i didn't cook my burger well enough and i took a bite and i didn't even see it and i showed the camera and it was that's rage bait it was like what you it was like her what i eaten today with her lettuce bun burger and she
bites into it she's just like enjoying it and there's like you can see the burger and it's like literally like raw meat and she's like because i didn't cook it well enough that was before my wedding but like you know people do that shit on purpose now and they call it rage bait because if you do something like that and the remember i used to do that by accident yeah and the comments would pop off i mean yeah people do they so funny like bait stuff you know fee looks so slim now oh thanks guys but i feel good that's what matters yeah it's not just about how you look is she dating a baseball player
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learn more and join by using my link the first 1000 get an $100 credit towards their membership visit www .functionhealth .com slash pow or use gift code pow at sign up to own your health how is fee liking being in real estate so happy for her oh i'm really liking it i was actually I was like thinking about how I want to talk about it today you know when I first got into it it was so intimidating just because it's obviously a very like you know there are so many real estate agents like and I don't know it's just a totally new field and it's intimidating just like everything you have to learn but from what I've
gathered I mean I joined an incredible team I really love my team we just went on a golf outing the other day and it was so much fun like so cute they're all all just so kind and cool and not to hype up my own team but like i just really appreciate michael's like our team lead it's his and we actually now are the riser team which is michael riser um i just love that he finds really kind of like cool unique people like no one is cookie cutter on the team like everyone's really interesting and like has cool passions outside of you know just you you know, work.
And I just think it's really cool, but I've been loving it.
It's been a journey.
I finally feel like I'm like getting in the swing of things.
I have some tours later today.
I've been helping a lot of people who are relocating to Austin.
I've been helping a couple like Bloom employees who are moving.
Yeah. A lot of Bloom team members are moving to Austin.
I don't know if I said, but we bought a building on the East side and that's our new HQ for Bloom.
bloom so they're all moving here from la and fee is helping them find yeah so i kind of chatted with bloom hr and greg and i was like sending my way so i've been helping a couple which has been great but i did want to add like i i feel like when i first said i wanted to get into it like you and everyone's like you're gonna be so good at that like you're so nice and love people but like truly i didn't realize how much i would really enjoy like getting to know my clients and and, like, getting close with them, and, like, learning about them, and, you know, whether it's helping them find a lease,
or, like, an actual home to buy, like, it is such a personal and intimate thing, and, like, I don't name any names, like, some clients that I've been helping who are relocating from Houston, they're the sweetest, like, young couple, he just graduated law school, he got a job at a firm here, so they're moving to Austin, she's pregnant, and so, like, I'm helping them find a house that can have a nursery, you're probably so good at that, have a room for an an office for him and like it's like it like makes me so happy and it is very fulfilling for me in that way because I know I'm like genuinely
helping people find something they need um and like when I close the deal for them and like get them the place that they really wanted over like you know I'm talking to an agent an agent actually was just calling me while I was sitting here and I need to call her back after this I'm hoping she has good news for me but like when they get the place that they wanted like yeah over someone else's being like it just makes me like I'm so so proud and I've learned a lot um and it's a really cool field so so cool it is a little scary right now the market is a little funny right now I think people are definitely
just like everything going on in the world and politics and everything happening people are a little scared to like make such a commitment but you know I think if you work with the right agent the right team and you do it for the right reasons then you won't regret it and it's kind of cool that you can do it anywhere I mean I know you have to get a license in different states but up pretty cool yeah I honestly that is a huge like that was a big part to me you know I'm not I loved working with Mari but like we were hands -on here in the office every day because I was like you know running a podcast
and there was like so much to do hands -on so it is really nice to have a little more freedom and like be able to kind of like schedule my day the way I need to um and I I do think me being type A and like organized and stuff has been so helpful yeah because like I'm over here scheduling you know 10 home tours in one afternoon and I have to reach out to every agent ask them what time I'm like playing Tetris while also like checking availability if there's a tenant living there or making sure it makes sense on a map so I'm not taking my clients in circles and circles you know what I mean so yeah
but like I love it because that's very me like I like a task and i like yeah i love logistics like i really do unless they involve european travel that i fucking hated you would have hated me this week i changed my whole trip marie i saw that and i was like i know poor brooke i was like bless bro so i want to leave a day earlier marie's like my gemini ass i made my whole trip move up a day earlier and i was like but to be fair i sat i sat on face i sat on a call with her and i did it with her okay good because i'm good at the european and stuff you're so funny yeah i when i was working with maria you
guys she they were going to like the south of france or somewhere yeah and for whatever reason i just could not get my mind wrapped around the geography of the area and one day i just looked at you and i was like you don't know what's going on and i and i was like i'm gonna be so for real i have no idea i couldn't pronounce anything you were like san tropez to antibes and then i was like and then you're gonna take a boat you're like no fiona there's no boat there's no water in between those i was like i I don't know what's happening.
It's okay. That was not mine.
It's fine. Yeah, not my thing.
Everything in French is a little confusing.
Yeah. Well, I feel like we've reached our close.
Oh, wait, I want to add one thing that I saw.
What? The liver king getting arrested.
Oh, guys, I mean, if you're an OG Power Girl, you probably listened to my...
The first guest you've ever had on.
My literal first guest was liver king, which is crazy that I interviewed. It was right off to his scandal.
It was like in LA. that was crazy we were so scared so scared i did not sleep the night before you were so nervous we got there early greg did the interview with me i was so scared they made me eat raw liver and testicle and all that type guys go back in the archives of pow and listen to my episode with liver king anyway he did just get arrested yeah apparently he got arrested here in austin because he was threatening joe rogan or something tea tea um did joe rogan call the police apparently i don't know i don't know the whole joe rogan thing i just saw like brian johnson was arrested in austin i
mean i feel like he's losing threatening something and i guys i thought i saw joe rogan the other day but apparently it wasn't joe rogan so i saw someone driving a really nice lamborghini with a rogan license plate i just feel like that's kind of you're not joe rogan and you're doing that weird weird baby you're like a huge fan of his that's like giving i feel like oh my god look at his mugshot wow he looks sad i would not want to be in a cell with liver king i'll tell you that no actually he he was a very nice man he was nice him and his wife he's probably just doing push -ups they were lovely
yeah yeah he's probably given i think maybe and i don't want to like trash but i think he's like lost a little fame and it is not as poppin as he used to be and he's like trying to do it yeah get some get some fame you know i don't know well we love you liver king yeah we love you liver king you really put us on the map actually everyone was really mad at me for doing that interview i think you win some you lose some fee thanks for coming on of course sorry that you've We've been through a lot lately.
It sounds like things are going really well other than the double infected cyst. Other than, yes.
The Bartholomew cyst, whatever it is.
Yeah, I'm about to be 30.
I'm feeling good. Birthday next week.
I have a cute man. I like my job.
Things are great. Yeah.
She's snatched. I'm snatched.
Are we toxic? Love you.
Love you. Bye. Bye.
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